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Sequoia 4x2 SR5 - Base invoice is $27,425 + $576 TDA...will be $27,692 + $582 TDA
Sequoia 4x2 Limited - Base invoice is $34,670 + $728 TDA...will be $34,936 + $734 TDA
Sequoia 4x4 SR5 - Base invoice is $30,566 + $642 TDA...will be $30,832 + $647 TDA
Sequoia 4x4 Limited - Base invoice is $37,413 + $786 TDA...will be $37,677 + $791 TDA
Freight will not be affected, nor will the price of factory options. I know the difference is not much but if you are close to making a purchase you might want to do it sooner than later. Hope this helps
Seriously, except for actually shifting, there is no documented upper speed limit in 4WD.
ka5ljb, I also think VCS and rev. limiting is a product liability feature designed to prevent a Ford Explorer-like roll-over fiasco. Safety was probably just a fortunate (for us) byproduct.
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But since you mentioned it, we all know that SUV Rollovers pre-date the Explorer case. Consumer Reports doomed the Suzuki Samurai in 1988 (and the Isuzu Trooper, Acura SLX, and Ford Bronco II in 1997) for nearly rolling over on their test course.
CU prodded the NHTSA to investigate SUV rollovers after the Samurai case, but in 1994 the NHTSA abandoned any effort to make a rollover standard, concluding that such a standard would require a redesign of nearly all SUVs, vans and pick-up trucks .. and .. the cost for this redesign would be too high.
So with ABS becoming standard, cheap embedded computers, electronic throttle control, and a few position sensors, VCS systems can now come to the rescue. For the price of a few additional lines of microcode, manufacturers can offer systems that prevent a fair number of the kind of rollovers that SUV's are prone to do.
Ahh techies... Sometimes ya gottta think like a marketeer, or worse, like a lawyer.
BTW, my A/C problem was indeed a loose valve. The dealer was able to tighten it a 1/4 turn to snug it up. That and a recharge and it's fixed. Just in time for the temp to drop to 40deg again.
And on the ticking thing... If anyone from Toyota is reading this and they can't duplicate the problem, I will gladly trade you my truck for a new one. You can then experiment to your hearts content.
I'm looking for something else now, but at least 20mpg avg. Minivans or Rendevous, but it's got to have 4wd for the winter, seats for 7.
steve_ "SUV fuel mileage - Feel free to participate" Apr 25, 2001 9:38am
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15000 miles/yr @ 15 miles/gallon = 1000 gallons
1000 gallons x $1.50= $1500
1000 gallons x $2.00= $2000
$500 divided by 12 months= $41.67
Please don't take this the wrong way but if $42 a month is going to keep you from owning a $40,000 vehicle, it is probably best you look for another vehicle.
You're right, it's none of your business. Feel free to send me the $42 per month, and I'll reconsider buying that $36K Toyota Sequoia.
Better math is 15,000 miles at $2 and $3 per gallon, and multiply that out for 5 years to give you a range for the financial impact. Compare that to 20mpg and then you be the judge.
BTW, are you willing to play over/under on new Toyota sales/orders for the next month? Not current orders in the pipeline being delivered, but new customers and new orders. Maybe it's strong, maybe it cools off a bit, or maybe prices drop. Uh, oh, this sounds like the stock market again. Prices go down????? heavens.
who knows, if prices drop, maybe I'll reconsider taking one off the lot that's sitting there!! That will pay for the extra $42 per month.
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I am disappointed to have had such a major problem with Toyota quality with only 300 some miles on my SEQ, but I also realize nothing is perfect. I could somewhat deal with that.
But I am THOROUGHLY unhappy with Toyotas service, customer relations & factory rep. I have never seen such poor customer relations!! At my job if anyone screws up, including the doctor (which happened today), I am kissing butt all over the place so that patient satisfaction stays high.
The Toyota corporation definitely has a high & mighty attitude of themselves, especially when you've paid cash for your 40K+ vehicle. In my case, they have my cash & my car. I hope that no one else has to go through the crap I have for the past 2 1/2 weeks.
Maybe one of you dealers here could let me know if there is any step up from customer relations??
Someone to talk to when customer relations doesn't do anything. I would appreciate suggestions.
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Deb
Any help would be appreciated!
Now it's the price of gas. Sure.
By the way, you are complaining about Toyota reputation and quality and you drive a Dodge? Give me a break.
Also just wondering since you've never uttered a positive word about Toyota why did you supposedly place an order? Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you order something you have no trust/respect for?
Persistence pays off. I ended up having a dialogue with the head of GM service for Canada and then finally I got some satisfaction.
Keep trying and let us know how you make out!
Whats the 999 referring to?
Looks like gas is a non-issue for you, 714cut. I can afford the extra gas costs, but I no longer think it's such a great value to drive a house on wheels - maybe I'll just give up some space, convenience, etc and save my money for other things, like my old age. Unless some Seq. t-bones me in the intersection, while they're sipping the double latte and chatting up the neighbors dog on the cell-phone!! BTW, I don't care what you drive, just drive it safe and responsibly, even if it's a Dodge.
It does boggle the mind that I ordered one of these things - boy I'm glad that's over with now. I feel better already.
I'll feel even better when the Dodge is gone too, and the Jeep after that!! I realize now how much I miss the smooth ride of a finely-engineered car.
Now I didn't say a bad word about Toyota, salespeople or service this time, did I?
Just out of curiosity, did you happen to notice the outside temperature when this happened?
To some people, this is a big enough financial disincentive to own the Sequoia. For many people, $42 per month can be the difference between making a car payment or paying the rent. I certainly would not criticize a person who needs a V8, 8 passenger SUV on a tight budget for not being able to handle an additional $42 per month. I can also understand why a person in this situation would want to step down to a minivan because in addition to the fuel savings, they also will save a tremendous amount of money on the initial purchase.
It is pure economics. $42 per month can tip the scales enough for many people to get them out of this market.
BTW: you should hear 2 clicks when you first get going since the computer is doing auto-checking
After seeing several posts, I think the computer is 1 to 2 mpg high. If we had 30 or so accurate comparisons of the trip computer to actual, we would have a pretty good idea of its accuracy and variation.
Anyway, my ex-continous ticking sound had nothing to do with outside temp...it was COLD!
There was a small defect too. The driver's side mirror was not fully adjustable. It will be replaced when a replacement part comes.
I noticed that when I backed out of a parking space, right after engaging the 4x4 mode, the vehicle was resisting going in reverse and turning. That resistance went away when I put the vehicle back in 2wd mode. Anyone has an explanation?
A technician at the dealer told me that the 4wd of the Sequoia is different than that of the LC, and that he doesn't recommend leaving it in permanent 4wd. I read the manual and there seems to be nothing said about not leaving it in 4wd mode permanently. In fact, the implication is that it is o.k. to do so. There are so many opinions out there but none that is direct and coming from an official Toyota engineer or the like.
I must say that I had the best experience buying a car this time around. I've bought 8 cars in the past 13 years from dealers and individuals and this was the best experience with a dealer. This is maybe because I am a member of Navy Federal Credit Union and the dealer is a part of a dealer referral network of NFCU. I wish that I had known about the referral network before and that all car buying experiences were this good for everyone.
My technician tried to tell me that the Sequoia (and LC) had a heat friction-activated limited-slip differential. I studied the differentials in the service manuals for quite awhile and could find no such thing.
Now it would be a real stretch, but I suppose if you included the spinning tires, ABS disk brakes, and TRACs ECU in the equation, you might to be able to ... Nah. He was just misinformed.
In your case, the shift to 4WD may not have been completed (it can take awhile) when you tried to back out and that may have had an effect. I also assume you were in high-range, not low (or worse, low/low, which would have causes the symptoms you described).
If 4WD continues to act funny, you may have a problem to consult the dealer about. In that case, be sure to consult a technician who is familiar with the service manual.
If you use your noggin, you'll know how to find me to ask offscreen, all righty?
Dianne
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I cannot believe that Toyota would use this cheap design on a relatively up scale vehicle like the SEQ. Of course I knew this before I bought the vehicle, but everything else was just too great to pass up.
Has anybody tried to change this arm rest for a better looking and adjustable one? I agree that this is trivial to most, but I just can't ignore it all the time.
Thanks.
top would be real nice. I bet the new leather wrap would cost a bit though.
I thought about this before and wondered why it was so skinny and I kinda eye-balled it that a fatter armrest was going to rub against console if you moved the seat way up.
I wasn't interested enough to move the seat up and see if that was the case.