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In the meantime I am also looking at the Acura MDX Touring Sedan. I prefer the Acura due to smaller size, although the ride is much staffer. My husband prefers the Sequoia. The intended use will be accommodated by both models (boat towing) however since I will be driving the car on a day to day basis, I tend to want the smaller of the two vehicles. My personal opinion is that the Toyota is just too big for day to day and that the Acura provides a ad more comfort creatures.
Any thoughts on these two cars and their attributes or disadvantages?
I would appreciate some input from anyone who has experience with both of them.
Thanks.
We ahve been to Town Center (so so) and Roswell (great).
I am very interested in buying the sequoia. Can anyone recommend a dealership in the New England area that is willing to negotiate below msrp? I've gone to several dealerships and the sales people are saying that the high demand for the sequoia is making it easy for the dealerships to resist going below msrp. Apparently, there are enough people who want this vehicle so badly, they are willing to pay the sticker price! I find that to be incredible. Any suggestions would help. Thanks.
I'm in search of a deal like everyone else, but I'm going to wait till Toyota has a incentive deal
I myself feel like this is a HOT seller Gas Mileage might be a factor in a slowdown of buying vehicles today. I'm in search to knowing of actual gas mileage of truck other than sticker!!
This is a third vehicle for me need the third row seat.
Leaning towards MDX because price of 37,500 includes all.
Realize more space in Toyota.
Tough decision, seems like discounts are available on Toyota this will bring my to finalist closer together.
I think the Sequoia is nice, but when I can save 25% by buying the Expedition, doesn't seem too hard to make the decision.
At this time, Ford dealers are LOADED with new Expeditions and great deals can be had without much trying. We paid $650 LESS than invoice. Try getting a deal like that from a Toyota dealer on anything!
After driving our Sequoia for two weeks, my wife and I both agree that we made the right choice. It works great in the snow and doesn't have all those computers to thwart your attempts at actually driving the vehicle.
Don't be judgemental until you see for yourself. Trust me, Ford products are much better than they were several years ago.
From what I've learned from different sources, the OFF MSRP price can be deceiving because the vehicle can be loaded with a lot of junk that can optentially offset the discount. Unfortunately, one has to be really lucky or patient about waiting to get it exactly the way you want it and at the price you want to pay.
The deal is obviously not done until I have the SEQ in my garage. I hope the wait is not too long.
The person I dealt with at Herb Chambers was Bob VanWert - really nice guy - no BS
I was also talking to a Mr. White (can't remember 1st name) at Attleboro Toyota who was willing to deal.
I can't stress enough - Use the internet to get quotes and establish contact before going to see a dealer. If they won't give you a firm quote on a vehicle, don't waste your time.
We have been actively shopping for a Sequoia for a month now and have been to MANY dealerships in the San Francisco Bay Area and they are all sticking to MSRP and over. We did however find 1 that will give us $500 below MSRP. But of course they dont have the model we are looking for yet.
We have been finding this experience to be horific as far as the liars and sneaky dealerships that we have come across. We have driven hundreds of miles on wild goose chases with promises of the car we are looking for only to be disappointed and having to walk out on these creeps. Anyone have a decient experience with a Toyota dealership in the SF Bay Area?
There were some similarities as far as creature comforts, but the seats in the Sequoia were much better to sit in than those of the MDX. Since both are selling at or slightly below sticker locally, the MDX I wanted figured up very close to our Limited. There was no further discussion.
BTW, after 4000 miles, my mileage is verified at 15.1 City/Hwy tooling around Dallas/Fort Worth, and we haven't done any long-term Hwy driving yet.
Good luck, I hope you find it if you want it!
Thanks
As far as negotiating on the package, my husband and I are still trying to decide on the MDX vs. Sequoia so serious negotiations haven been started at that dealer regarding the wood grain package.
We have the Sequoia coming in, scheduled to arrive in two weeks, but I still think I am more comfortable driving the smaller MDX, not to mention the better gas mileage.
I purchased my Sequoia back in December at Toyota Sunnyvale and had a pretty positive experience. Unfortunately, I had to pay MSRP. The dealership is very close to my home which made it very convenient. It was great getting to take the vehicle home to check to see if it would fit in my garage. I ended up with a silver limited and I love everything about it.
Good luck on your search!
Thanks a million for the information. I will call them today!
Whats the secret of a smooth, quietride on the all new 2001 Toyota Sequoia.
SEquoia's 5 link coil spring rear suspension is the major reason for its smooth,quiet ride. It features optimized rear control arm geometry, a stabilizer bar with ball joint-type links and high damp bushings,the rear suspension is deningeered to absorb the roads imperfections. Sequoia also has a particularly long wheel stroke(the range of up and down wheel motion) that helps pot holes and payment sepration while keeping the ride smooth and comfartable.
The driving force on the all new 2001 Toyota Sequoia is its 4.7 litre 32 valve DOHC i-force V8.This engine packs a powerful punch 240 Horse Power and 315 lb-ft of ground grabbing, trailer-pulling torque. An advanced intake system allows the egine to breathe deeper,producing commanding performance and powerful low end torque. The i-force V8 also features an Electronic Throttle Control System with intellegence (ECTS-i) which helps the engine run quietly smoothly and efficiently.
The all new 2001 Toyota Sequoia is equipped with standard Vehicle Skid Control (VSC) when situations arise that could present a loss of traction, its good to know the sequoia has VSC. This systems (1) Computer uses input from (2) wheel speed sensors, (3) a yaw-rate sensor, (4) a decelartion sensor,(5) a steering wheel angle sensor and (6) an active brake booster to regulte individual brake and throttle control to help counteract skidding (understeer) and spinning (oversteer) and help maintain the course of the sequoia.
Expect the unexpected. And know you're ready for it. The 4 wheel Anti lock Brake (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distrubution (EBD) a standard on all models. Under sudden or hard braking conditions, the 4 wheel Anti-lock Brake system uses its sophisticated Computer and sensors to moudulate brake pressure to help avoid wheel lock up and maintain steering control.
The Multi Mode 4 WD and Active TRAC. On unpaved roads, mud, rain, snow and ice can all cause problems. Don't worry the Sequoia answers all of them. If traction is reduced at any wheels, Sequioa's advanced active trac 4 wheel electronic contgrol system steps into transfer torque to the wheels with the most traction. The end result Sequoia keeps you going on any surface (dry, slippery,wet) on road or off.
Safety is the key factor when Toyota built this all new 2001 Sequoia. The structure itself contributes to its safety. The floor area has been extensively reinforced and is designed to help maintain the integrity of the passenger compartment in the event of an accident. Sequoias rugged ladder frame with fully boxed front sub-frames reduces Vibrations, at the same time contributing to a quiet interior. Sequoia features specially engineered crumple zones, reinforced pillarstructure and side impact beans on all doors.
Vow what a great SUV. Test drive it today and I am positive you will definetely agree with Sam Murthy the features and benefits of this marvellous engineeried product from the House of Toyota till then stay connected.
By Sam Murthy
Lucky you, I buy an X5 from Herb Chambers from Boston at sticker price. No discount, but a lot of BS. Never buy a car again at HC
It seems like most people who walk in off the street have pretty negative experiences. I will never walk into a dealership 'cold' again. In fact I'll probably follow the same pattern.
1. Figure out what want.
2. Test drive at a local dealer.
3. Research and get quotes on line
4. Go to the dealer with the best offer and negotiate trade in.
Although if I go for a high availability vehicle next time I will probably sell my car first rather than trading it in. I know I took a loss by trading to the dealer, but I couldn't be without a car (and I was lazy). I will say however that I knew what to expect on my trade and when I insisted on getting the right price (which was realistic and fair for both parties) the whole process, both for the trade and the new Sequoia, took just about 25 minutes!
I think a more significant difference would be in the lower end. For example, between a base MDX at $35K and an SR5 Sequoia equiped to $35K (both at MSRP), the MDX is IMO a much better buy.
There are so many similarities, as well as differences between the two depending on one's perspective. It eventually boils down to which options (factors) does one put more weight on. Unless one is intent on mid-range towing, one cannot make a mistake by going either way.
In my case, I loved many things about the MDX. But I just PERSONALLY like the looks of the SEQ and decided to get it.
Ive been searching for a Limited Sequioa for about a month now and have not been able to find anything less than 500 under MSRP. ( do ya think that you could get one for me too..?)
my .02 cents worth
They don't do that here in SoCal.
Dianne in Socal
If you need to truly seat adults comfortably in a third row, then the only SUVs on the planet to consider are the Suburban/Yukon XL twins and the Excursion! Period!!
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However, the fact that the two are still being constantly compared by the average person indicate that there are also real and perceived similarities between the two. For example, although the Seq is truck based and the MDX is based on the minivan platform, the ride to me (and to other people I've read or known) is not much different. Whether one seats 7 or 8 comfortably, that's not not necessarily a big issue either. If one is not towing, the difference in power will not stand out, since both have very capable powerhouses. This means that the average buyer can likely go either way, without so much regret, and their final decisions are probably determined by one or a few factors that they finally put more weight on. The things that are different between the two might not be important to them.
I am one who was really in this dilemma. I don't consider myself a car buff, but as a customer I am probably more informed than the average person. I always take time to study and compare different factors or products before I buy almost anything. I have been following the MDX and SEQUOIA forums religiously since April (I think). I went to see both the MDX and the SEQ during their debut dates, and I liked both of them. Yes, I am familiar with the structural, technical, and functional differences between the two. Yet, after everything was said and done, I still see the two vehicles as similar enough and either one could serve my purpose very well. I really wanted the MDX for the all the stuff you get and the simple pricing scheme. But in the end, not even the structural, technical, and functional differences stood out. I went for the looks of the Seqouia (this is personal and please, anyone, don't burn me on this) and I just placed an order last weekend.
Mine may only be 1 cent worth but perception is sometimes reality.
In the end, the room in the Sequoia won the day and I purchased the Sequoia. The reason – interior size – we have two children and one on the way. That means one double stroller and one single stroller just to go to the mall. The MDX is just not big enough. For folks who don’t need to carry many people and stuff on a daily basis, I think that the MDX may be a better choice.
I have no idea who said that these two vehicles are not in the same class. Perhaps not for the auto gear heads at Toyota and Honda. But for the average consumer – and I know I’m not the only one who puts these two in the same class – these two are ones to pick from.
Lastly, I will say this about the Yukon. My wife and I considered this vehicle – fully loaded. But in the end, the quality issues of our past American cars prevented us from paying close to 40k for an American vehicle. The American products have come a long way, but they are not all the way yet.
My question is this: am I giving up anything important by not going with a a Limited. (Unlike previous post, I do like the metallic interior, but didn't think it was worth the additional 3000+- I might pay for a LTD)
Also, after several quotes form different dealers, this is my best. Is it good enough?
I appreciate any response as I have to decide this week!
There are people who simply want to buy an SUV, small, mid-size or large. Everyone has different reasons for wanting an SUV. Price-wise, comparing an MDX with the SEQ may make sense, but when you look at the facts, it is clear that such a comparison is not totally with merit. The two vehicles were designed for different markets, and they serve different needs. When people come to the SEQ forum and compare it with the MDX, methinks they are very wrong. If the buyer has $40K to plop on a vehicle, he/she has the right to make any comparison they like, but the final choice should lie on what the buyer NEEDS in the vehicle. It would be fool-hardy for anyone with $40K to spare and looking to buy either a Lincoln Town Car or an MDX with Touring, isn't it ? Yes, these two cars retail for about the same price, but are they really comparable ?
MT's review of 12 SUV's with the MDX "winning" has more to do with marketing, especially when you look at the vehicles in the review. Give me a break ! Anyone can see thru' the reviews and realize how incongrous the collections really are. A Ford Escape with a BMW X5 ? Or a SEQ with a Pontiac Aztec ? Puleeezeee !!!
After buying my Seq, I lamented on my inability to evaluate the MDX prior to my purchase of the Toyota. But, after visiting my local Acura dealer, test-driving the MDX and then packing my Seq beside the MDX, the differences became very obvious to me. I just felt real good about my choice, since the MDX does not address most of my family needs, and were I to be needing a car that can masquerade as an SUV, then maybe, just maybe I'll be in the market to buy the MDX or the RX300 (my choice in 1999 until my wife nixed it). These two really are in the same league and the MDX was specifically designed to target the RX300 market...
Now, that is a comparison that makes more sense...
I found a 4W SR5 with all three packages: preferred (leather interior etc.), convenience (home link, heated outside mirrors, key less entry) and alloy wheel pkg (16" alloy wheels, running boards etc) and power sunroof. Including a video system (retail $1600), the price I have is $40,250.
Also, after several quotes from different dealers, this is my best. Is it good enough?
I appreciate any response as I have to decide this week!