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By the way, the PF is also scheduled to receive a re-design in 2003. Hopefully, it will address some of the PF's shortcomings.
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Now that I read the instructions for the mask, they indicate that it should be removed whenever the vehicle gets wet. I figured that removing it during a wash was a given, but am I putting the clear coat at risk by ever leaving the mask on a wet exterior?
Please let me know what you suggest. Thanks.
The mechanics at the dealership told me that, unless you drive it hard or do a lot of towing, it was ok to not use the premium fuel.
Demystifying Octane Ratings
A gasoline's octane rating quantifies its resistance to knocking and pinging. These two sounds are caused by abnormal combustion, which robs power and can damage an engine. Knocking and pinging are basically the same thing; knocking is louder and represents a more serious condition. When they occur, it is during acceleration, though higher engine speeds tend to drown them out. Knocking sounds like someone repeatedly rapping the engine with a hammer, and the quieter pinging resembles marbles being shaken inside a tin can.
Many conditions in the engine itself can cause or promote combustion anomalies, but when all other factors are equal, gasoline with a higher octane rating is more resistant to knocking and pinging than a lower-octane fuel. So why doesn't everyone just use high-octane gasoline? Because it is more expensive, and there is no advantage whatsoever in using premium gasoline in a car that doesn't specifically require it. At one time, only premium gasoline included additives that prevent fuel-injector clogging; now, all grades are basically the same in this regard.
If your car requires high-octane gasoline and you habitually use regular gas because the engine exhibits no sign of knock, you're outsmarting yourself. Most modern, computer-controlled engines include a knock sensor that detects knock and retards the ignition timing, causing the spark plugs to fire slightly later in the cycle. This typically prevents abnormal combustion and knock, which allows vehicles specified for premium fuel to run on lower-grade gasoline if it is all that's available. While this removes the immediate hazard, it's a bad idea to make a habit of running a vehicle on gasoline of lower-than-recommended octane. Retarding the spark causes a richer fuel/air mixture, which decreases fuel economy, increases emissions, causes the engine to run hotter, and reduces the longevity of both the engine itself and the catalytic converter. The money you save by pumping low-grade fuel into a car that demands higher octane is lost anyway, in decreased fuel economy and possibly gradual damage.
Your vehicle's owner's manual usually recommends an octane rating in terms of an Antiknock Index (AKI), which also is posted on gasoline pumps. The AKI is the average of two ratings determined in a laboratory: the Research Octane Number (RON), which corresponds with low-speed, mild-knocking conditions, and the Motor Octane Number (MON), which covers high-speed, high-temperature knocking conditions and part-throttle operation.
In general, three grades of gasoline are available in the United States: regular (AKI = 87), midgrade (AKI = 89) and premium (AKI = 91 to 94). The posted gasoline AKIs are lower in the Rocky Mountain states because less octane is needed at higher altitudes. Motorists whose cars require 91 octane fuel may find themselves at filling stations that offer only 89 and 93 octane, but nothing in between. In these cases, the options are to pay more for the 93 octane or to fill the tank halfway with 93 and the rest with 89. The resulting gasoline mixture, just like the average of their two AKI numbers, will equal 91 octane.
Current offer is invoice plus a $500 marketing fee which brings the total to 32,396 destination charges included.
I was told that this 'fee' was added by nissan and nothing could be done about it. I'm sure that this has been talked about before so if someone could point me to the right post that would be great.
And I'm wondering if this is a good deal for the midwest (I live in Milwaukee WI and have access to Chicago, Minneapolis and possibly Canada)
Also, is it possible to get a PF from Canada with an odometer in miles?
To "skips2": When you get the Nav system, they put the CD changer in the little storage bin on the right side wall of the cargo area, not "dead smack in the middle of the rear cargo area".
(BTW, if you get the Mobile Entertainment System they house the VCR in a carpeted hard case & mount it upright on the left side of the cargo area. It is very secure & slides out with a push of a button. The only problem is that with the VCR in place it's not easy to get to the storage compartment under the cargo area rug)
To "nuts": I'm in the NYC area & I was not charged a $500 "marketing fee" when I bought my 01 LE in March so I doubt it is "added by nissan". Sounds like typical dealer BS. Have you priced-out an LE using Carsdirect.com? I did this, printed the results & faxed it to three local dealers. Funny how fast they came down $3,000.+ from their privious "best price"! I ended up paying $400. under invoice. Good luck, you're going to love your LE!
Joe
The dealer's costs only matter in terms of trying to figure what the lowest price the dealer should be able to sell for and still get a profit. You want to know these numbers so that when they cry "I can't sell it that low" you know whether they're lying (which, sorry, but...even with the good ones...they usually are on this topic).
But...the bottom line is...there's no such thing as "there's nothing that can be done about it"...if you are prepared to walk if they don't meet your price and it's close to what you can get elsewhere, they'll usually cave. That's what happened to me. I did my research (starting with carpoint) settled on a 'lowest price', then went to my local dealer and said "this price or nothing" (to paraphrase). He sqauwked about advertising costs and went off to the manager...came back and said "deal". My price was $500 under invoice (which included dest).
Remember...it's basically a commodity and it's a buyer's market.
Tom
I'll second (or third) the comments on the bogus "marketing fee". But then again what does it matter what they call it? Marketing fee, markup, beer fund, whatever. It's just all profit to them, so concentrate on the total and work them down from there.
If you are in Milwaukee, you should seriously consider getting your LE in Canada. This same unit that you are looking at for $32,400 would sell at the right dealers in Toronto (or Vancouver for that matter) for about $28,000. It's less than a one-day trip for you to get it. As far as the speedo, it's in km and miles; the odo in km. You can easily get it changed at a speedometer shop. I have a quote for $251. See my posts above such as #2610. Email me for lots more info, and I know some good contacts too. I'm having fun helping out others with this (over 30 now).
-Jon
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"Perfect picture auto salon" - dobbin road,
columbia - $60 for two front windows and lifetime guarantee.
"auto effects" - on route 1 college park, been around for 5 yrs and they are charging $60 for the two front windows, life time guarantee.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
pfwun
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black on black
Leather,LSD, MES
looking for legal tint or even % match of the rear windows. Shade of black tint must match the rear as well.
In all three cases the vehicle did not respond to the brakes and just kept rolling as if on ice, though the surface was pretty dry. The first 2 times was in 2WD, the last time in AUTO.
Called the dealership, but they gave me some BS about anti-lock brakes. But I've driven cars with anilock brakes before and never had such problem.
I also had a service technician at the Gaithersburg Nissan take it for a test drive but the problem did not show up.
I wonder if anyone else has experienced a similar problem or has an idea on what might cause this.
This is pretty unsettling when you have to worry about whether or not the brand new vehicle is going to stop at the light, or at 70 MPH on the highway.
Any comment or insight is appreciated.
I'm a couple of weeks away from my one year purchase anniversary--01 4x4 bronzed gray LE. I'm happy to report that with 16k miles on the PF, it continues to be one of my best car ownership experiences. The truck remains tight, the handling and ride are wonderful, and I have had nothing done but routine maintenance. I am as thrilled with this vehicle as the day we bought it.
I will take a look at the redesigned 2003 model because extra space would be nice, but it would take a beck of a SUV to get me out of this one... quality, performance and price make owning and driving the PF so rewarding. I don't work for Nissan
I'm glad to see most owners on this forum still feel the same way.
"I was told by a friend who purchased a LE without the Nav system that it uses a 6 DVD setup. You only get the 1 DVD for your local area and have to purchase the rest at about $125 each."
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Actually, it's a 9 CD setup. There are MCAs (Map Coverage Areas) that cover the entire US with 9 CDs. The one you get with your truck will be in the MCA of the dealership (I bought mine in NH and live in CA). If you want maps out of that area, yep...you have to buy additional CDs at $125 a pop. I bought the CA/NV disc additionally. This isn't really a problem for me as I won't be driving out of the Cali/Nevada area very often...if ever. I do feel for those who live in PA (the corner of THREE MCAs!) egads!
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"Also, if you get the NAV system you loose the indash 6 CD player."
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I saw this as a selling point. Although most folks haven't had any trouble with the in-dash unit, some have had had theirs jam up using CDRs. They get the "err2" message and have to wait for a replacement. The nav system moves the CD setup to a magazine type and is placed in the little hide-away compartment on the left side of the cargo area.
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"A changer for the DVD or CD, not sure which, is bolted dead smack in the middle of the rear cargo area. Go figure that one."
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Uh...It's enclosed into the trim work of the rear compartment area. Really quite a nice piece of work.
I can't say enough about the nav system...It's saved me enormous amounts of time and frustration. Last Wednesday night, I did a drive-by on 33 houses to check them out for curb-appeal. Yes...that's "Thirty-Three." I punched in all the addresses into the nav system (actually, you can only do 6 at a time) and let it talk me through to each of the addresses. In three hours, I saw 33 houses...eliminated 22 of them as possibilities and toured the remaining 11 the next night (using the nav system of course). I now choose to drive the Pathfinder (instead of the Prelude or the motorcycle) to work if I know I'm going to an unfamiliar address after work.
For what it's worth, the only reason I'm looking at buying a(my first) house is that I need a garage to park the Pathfinder...'cause it looks soooo good after I Zaino'd it a few weeks back!!!
Keep up the great comments and advice!!!
Captain Ron...
Josh
When you talk to Dewey, tell him Jamey's son, Matt, sent you for a straight shootin' deal. I think Dewey's last name is Wilson. You can find info about Robbins here:
http://www.robbinsautomall.com/
Don't buy from Waco Nissan...they're jerks. It'll only take you about 3 to 3.5 hours to get to Robbins from Waco depending on the traffic in Conroe on I-45. If you'd rather go to Dallas, I've had good luck with the service dept. at Courtesy Nissan NE of downtown on the south-bound side of Hwy 75, although I've never bought a car from them.
...I was just looking at the Robbins website. They are offering $200 below invoice on all Nissans. Here's the blurb at the bottom of that page:
This special is only good through 6-01-01. Vehicle must be taken from dealer stock. All special finance rates and rebates still apply after discounted price, plus TTL.
that kind of sucks if you have to buy different CD for different states!!! My friend is gettingan MDX and he's getting the maps for all the states except Hawaii and Alaska.
Thanks for the info