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Mercedes-Benz M-class (ML320, ML350, ML500 and ML55) 2005 and earlier



  • kxnkxn Posts: 1
    I'm looking to purchasing 98 ML320 w/22K miles. Anyone know of any reason I shouldn't buy it, ie chronic defects, etc. Thanks
  • Whats a scribble? or the act of scribbling?
  • I'd post some thoughts regarding my wifes new 00 ML430, but she won't let me drive it. :-(
    Oh well, the passenger seat is comfortable.
  • tj98tj98 Posts: 8
    Pulling stranded cars out of ditches:

    I used a heavy duty nylon tow rope that comes with two safety hooks attached to its ends (costs about $20 in local hardware stores - I always carry one). In all cases the ML was pulling in reverse because I want to see what is going on. The rope was attached to the tow hook in the front of the ML and to the appropriate tow point on the other vehicle. It is easy if you have the right rope.

    Apologies: I thought it was ETS not ESP. "Whiner" was apparently a carryover statement from previous messages that I read (about 600 of them in one stretch...). '98 is not such a bad truck and I plan to keep mine for a while. With all the bashing that it is getting here there might be some good bargains out there as we speak for people who want to buy a used one.

    Speaking of ESP, is there anyone who had a "real" experience with it in an ML? Any comments? Is this all software based (receiving data from existing sensors already in place for other systems), or is there an additional (inertially controlled?) sensor that talks to the computer? I tried brake assist in a 2000 ML and was not impressed (maybe I am a heavy footer to start with :-) ). Of course it was "designed" not "accidental" so it may be better than I thought in a real case.

    Have fun!

  • I think you'll find that your elbow or that of a passengers is hitting the rear window control buttons on the back of the center console. I have a friend who puts down the back windows everytime he rides in the truck! He just sprawls out and hits those buttons.---Jeff
  • noelb1noelb1 Posts: 19
    Did you happen to have a child sitting in child seat in the center rear seat who was swinging his/her little foot into one of those window switches. Just a guess.
  • I am looking into buying a new ML. Does any one know if Mercedes is planning a facelift for the ML any time soon? Any sites that I could get some info on this?

    Thanks for your help.
  • Coming home today in the ice/snow, I took another turn "normally", and normally on the gas. The cool thing was that I heard the independant brakes activate because I heard the vibration of the ABS go off (ice), but I wasnt pressing the brake at all!

    Does the ML have four wheel INDEPENDANT ABS brakes? Is this what it was? I'm assuming so.

    I think it really depends on the amount of steering you input too, compared to this morning.

    I love playing with the snow.

  • The ML55 does indeed have a 12 volt air compressor located behind the spare tire.
  • The Silver ML didn't look like it had a rear hitch to me...

    I am a member of the rear hitch for safety and occasional towing.

    Secondary shots - The Green ML towing looked like "It" had a big problem.

  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    I don't remember meeting a Rick there. I thought my salesman (Jerry Pillari) was honest though...not something you find nowadays (had to go through all the dealerships around here before I found him...wasn't comfortable w/ the others).
    Sounds like MB dropped the $2K incentive on the MY2K models?
  • I am contemplating purchasing the Manik 3" stainless steel step rails for my silver/ash 00ML320 (similar to yours). Did you purchase the Manik stainless units? On your pictures they almost looked chromed as did your wheels.
    I live in the Chicago area where much salt is spread on the streets during the winter months. I think stainless steel rails would be a bit hardier than base metal or even chrome. You also live in a cold weather climate where I presume they salt the streets. Any thoughts?
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Drew and I have the OEM MB chromed step rails. Stainless steel would last longer; the M4 pkg side runners are SS. Be sure the Manik rails don't cover the jack points; I think one of the m-class list members said they did.
  • mlx52mlx52 Posts: 72
    I picked up my new ML 320 Black, Java, M1, M2, Bose, heated seats and Nav. I picked it up in the middle of a Chicago snowstorm, so I got to test out all of the systems. I must say that I feel much more confidant driving in the snow than in my Chrysler Town and Country. I saw the ESP triangle flash a few times, while going around a corner, but felt no impact on my driving.
    For all of you who have concerns about this car; throw those concerns out the window. This vehicle is great and handles like a charm, especially in the snow!
    When I was at the dealership while picking up the new car. I was able to push the SOS button for the Tele-aid system, as it is required to do so in order to activate the system. I also got the salesperson to throw in the all-season floor mats and will pick those up in a week. I also cranked the Bose sound system and found it to be surprisingly adequate, not great, but it will suffice.
    Drew, and others: When I was driving home from the dealership I noticed that when I tried to activate the bright lights they would not stay on unless I kept my hand depressed on the lever. Is this normal, or is there a trick to operating the lights?
    Thanks to all for your help on my decision of this great auto. I will keep you all updated. And if I get a Digi camera for Christmas I will take pics.

  • mlx52mlx52 Posts: 72
    Did mercedes change the type of cd changer in the m-class for 2000 or 2001?

  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Glad to hear you got your ML finally :-)

    As for the high beams, push the stalk away from you. I know...not intuitive compared to how other cars work. Look at the quick-tips booklet. It's helpful and isn't as confusing as the manual.

    The 2001 CD changer ties into the fiber network now. The old ones did not.

    Sounds like you and Robert are having great fun playing in the snow...
  • vr1vr1 Posts: 8
    Thanks for the thoughts on my window problem. I usually am in the vehicle alone. I rarely open the center console storage area. And I've had this happen at times that I tried particularly hard not to even rest my arm on the center arm rest. I really don't think it's anything I'm doing, so I'll mention it to my service advisor (although I don't want to make the hour trek to the dealer for a while).

    I'm sorry if my scribbling my accidental duplicate post was a problem. I didn't know you weren't supposed to do that.
  • kiiwiikiiwii Posts: 318
    Kenyee, I thought the stereo fiber network started on all 2000 MB models.

    btw, foound something interesting...
    what color are the wheel nuts on ML 320? aren't they suppose to be silver, just like the rim? mine are black.... @_@
  • noelb1noelb1 Posts: 19
    Ken, I understand you had held out from buying your ML for 3 years, I'm just curious why did you choose to buy an '01 since there will be a face lift for the '02s?

    Noel B
  • Thanks for the idea about the door seals. I have mentioned that several times and been told that Mercedes has put a stop to paying the dealership for that fix. Do you know anyone who has successfully lobbied for this? Maybe a letter to Mercedes?

    You also have to keep in mind that my dealership (Austin, Tx) is terrible. Many people I know don't buy Mercedes just because this is the only game in town and the service is that bad. Also I've seen people complain about the quality of loaner cars - well this dealer doesn't provide them at all.
  • I don't know the real reason why Ken went for the '01 models but if you saw the car that he replaced then you'll probably understand. It was an Acura Integra in pretty bad shape. Rusting parts, etc.

  • Jeff,

    I just had my front brake pads replaced at 24k on a '99 ml430. The pads were only down to 4mm( 2mm being the replacement point) but the indicator was going off and was incredibly annoying as well as ruining AM radio reception. Strange but true. It is supposed to cost $180.
  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    Dats my understanding too...the ML's 2000 and later are fiber optic wired.

  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    I took ML into dealer to improve the grounding I did myself on my fog lamps. Finally done.

    After I thought i took care of the brake squeal, it came back ! So, i guess i didn't ...

    I told servisor to check it out and wow. they "replaced front braks disc and pads" -dats wats on invoice. 1 brake shoe, 2 brake discs and 1 brake clean. Now, i'm really squeal-less.

  • dt77dt77 Posts: 232
    i meant service advisor =)

  • Thanks for your input on the Motor Rev question. 2500 rpm at 65 or 70 really isn't that bad at all. It's actually lower than I thought it would be.

  • alingaling Posts: 598
    Well well, I didn't even have to try this time!

    Drew/aling Townhall host
  • you're the victor in this case... :)
  • Since I see an evidence of a scribbled post, pending a recount and verification of who may have scribbled it - I certify atomic80 as the winner of the 2nd century mark...
  • the wake of the whole election craze, that was a much needed humor upshot! :)

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