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@xwesx, miss your Fiesta? There's one on the corner here that's clean and only overpriced by a couple of thousand bucks.
2011 SE, red, 77,000 miles, automatic, steering wheel stuff, heated seats (was a Mass car), keyless, newer Michelins. He put a Black Box printout with average price of $9,475 to $10,050 for good. He's asking $9,499 OBO.
We show TMV closer to $7,400 private party, clean.
Sandman - always enjoy your experiences and commentary. Never sounds to me like you are trying to influence people one way or the other. As for your VW and HyunKia, all that should really matter to you is how you like it.
Wife is on her way up to the dealership today so they can do the tint and clear mask. We're also swapping the stock GTI wheels for the nicer wheels that we had on it. My hope is that they will fit on the S3 as a winter set. If not, I may hold on to them in the event I were to get some sort of Golf in the future.
The brand continues to be plagued by a reputation of quality issues - some of that is deserved, but much of it is simply based on historical track record long gone.
I think they do offer mainstream alternatives that can invoke more passion than the more reliable Japanese brands. Say what you will about the "Americanized" Jetta and Passat - I think they offer a bit more upscale feel than many of their counterparts. The CC is a beautiful offering not matched by the non-luxury competitors. And then of course there is a lot of heritage with the GTI. That they continue to offer a manual trannie on the highest trim level on their wagon impresses me.
We've had several - a Jetta, 2 GTIs, 2 Passats, a Beetle. No significant issues with any of them and we obviously keep going back to them here and there. But the longest we've had any of them was about 75k miles (that was on the wife's Jetta, before we got married and started enabling each other )
The dealership service experience can make a lot of difference. Part of VW's problem historically has been the dealer network. Among the obstacles the automakers face are the strong franchise laws in the US which protect the dealers.
Since I've become a Honda owner, once I heard that "the part is coming from Ohio," but it only took a day.
At the VW TDI club, their forum has a "report your turbo failure" thread. It's not for discussion (which is a separate thread), only for reporting the facts of your case. It's 27 pages long:
But VW has apparently extended the warranty to 10 years and 120k miles on some turbo diesel models, and they've also redesigned and strengthened the TDI for 2015.
I just had the 20K service done, and they updated the engine software. I think it may be related to warming up the car differently from what I've read.
German cars - 2 data points: 2011 BMW 3 - pinhole developed in a/c plumbing at about 20,000 miles. That's it. 2013 GTI - repaint driver side rear door - defective application at factor. That's it. - Ray Now driving something 'imported from Detroit' ...???
But how many miles did you put on each? That's the telling part. I've had many cars I would say were perfect...but since I only had them for less than 2 years and/or 20k miles, it doesn't mean a whole lot.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
We show TMV closer to $7,400 private party, clean.
I know, I know, the auto is a deal killer.
Nope, not at all, apparently, because I really haven't thought about The Raspberry in a couple months now!
Sounds like that seller is looking to catch someone unawares. I take the opposite route and look for a reasonable sale, but without the intent of negotiations. I generally figure that anything that I add to the car is basically a sunk cost.
As such, the good part is that I get what I ask for my cars, but the bad part is that people don't try to negotiate most times, so I could probably squeeze a little more out of the sale if I priced a little higher to start. I keep them with care and put time into prepping them for sale, and that stuff leaves a good impression with potential buyers.
I sold my 2011 Fiesta for $10,200 with 56K miles. It was a fully loaded (sans moonroof only) SES hatchback manual transmission and included WeatherTech floorliners, a Curt hitch receiver and trailer wiring (as well as the receiver accessories), set of 15" alloy wheels with Blizzak tires mounted (to be fair, I would have replaced the tires (~$550) before this winter, but they could be used for another winter if someone wanted), and maintenance supplies for this summer's oil change (~$80 worth of stuff there). Oh, and it was still under factory 5/60 warranty for another 4,000 miles or 13 months (at the time), whichever came sooner. That always helps.
While it took a few weeks of advertising before someone came to take a look at it, they were the ones that bought it.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
qbrozen - '..I only had them for less than 2 years and/or 20k miles, it doesn't mean a whole lot. ' I was thinking mostly in terms of 'initial quality' here - The BMW I had for 26 months [ 27 mo. lease ] and just over 30,000 miles. The GTI [ um ] less... - Ray CCBA to the core
I crossed the 30,000 mile barrier in my Elantra last night. With 15 months and one week left on my lease the question isn't whether I'm going to go over my mileage allotment, but by how much.
I crossed the 30,000 mile barrier in my Elantra last night. With 15 months and one week left on my lease the question isn't whether I'm going to go over my mileage allotment, but by how much.
Remind me, if you will, of your total allotment? Is it 42K?
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
I crossed the 30,000 mile barrier in my Elantra last night. With 15 months and one week left on my lease the question isn't whether I'm going to go over my mileage allotment, but by how much.
Remind me, if you will, of your total allotment? Is it 42K?
Ah, well, you won't be inordinately far off. I'm going to project just a little bit of conservation your part and guess you'll end up 5,200 over. What would that mean at lease end in terms of penalty/overage charge?
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
Ah, well, you won't be inordinately far off. I'm going to project just a little bit of conservation your part and guess you'll end up 5,200 over. What would that mean at lease end in terms of penalty/overage charge?
I'd have to look at my contract to see what the per mile charge is.
If it's $.20 a mile, I'm looking at just over $1000 if your estimate is correct
VW just called...seems like the part is in! Going on Monday mid morning to get it reattached. Just hit 8100 on the vehicle but just not quite ready to do the oil change so will wait till about 9300 or so. Not sure if they have an additive in their first batch of oil like Honda does so since they state a 10k first oil change interval, going to go a bit longer. The majority of my trips are about a half hour to 45 minutes so figure the engine does have enough time to warm up and get to proper operating speeds. Really really do like this vehicle and nothing I'd rather have at this point...maybe that Honda HR-V but would wait a few years to see where I'm at mileage wise and how things hold up with the Golf. Right now, loving my Golf!!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Sandy - I know you are annoyed with the teething problems with your golf, but you are in the situation to handle it well. Your work schedule gives you the flexibility to bring the car in when YOU need on YOUR time. You can sit with the service advisor or service manager to show them the problems you are encountering. Once you get the part you need for you seat, it should be smooth sailing. I know you dig the HRV, but I think you are going to have a hard time giving up the TURBO in your VW!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
Sandy - I know you are annoyed with the teething problems with your golf, but you are in the situation to handle it well. Your work schedule gives you the flexibility to bring the car in when YOU need on YOUR time. You can sit with the service advisor or service manager to show them the problems you are encountering. Once you get the part you need for you seat, it should be smooth sailing. I know you dig the HRV, but I think you are going to have a hard time giving up the TURBO in your VW!
I will +1 on that, nyc.
As much as I like the concept of the HR-V, the fact that it only has 140HP gives me the feeling it will be very, uh, Honda-like. More of an appliance than anything you really engage with.
@Michaell - I never gave the H6 a look due to cost constraints. From the reviews I read it is obviously faster than my 4 cyl (with 90 more hp), but not a road rocket (maybe mid 7s to 60). Subaru said it offers the H6 more for towing and smoothness. You could tell me about the H6's power delivery first hand though;)
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@Michaell - I never gave the H6 a look due to cost constraints. From the reviews I read it is obviously faster than my 4 cyl (with 90 more hp), but not a road rocket (maybe mid 7s to 60). Subaru said it offers the H6 more for towing and smoothness. You could tell me about the H6's power delivery first hand though;)
I've been driving the Subaru quite a bit in the past week; I'm starting to get addicted to the smooth power delivery. Much different that the laggy turbo from both our previous Mazda and the daughter's MINI.
I tell ya, auto vs. manual with the Subaru flat four makes one heck of a difference. Our '10 Forester is quite the peppy car. The '08? Not so much. And, while I found the Legacy (CVT) I test drove to be quite responsive, it definitely did not have the pep that our MT Forester has.
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Probably right here, just really annoyed right now with it. Hope this really is the end of the problems so we can move on! Found out we're losing our BMW location the end of the month, a shame really, and they are bringing in Sixt now. First was Enterprise, then Hertz and now Sixt. This BMW store loses interest quickly it seems. Saw a 228i coupe today, never heard of it before, and it was really sharp in white but it was pouring rain...why do a test drive in the pouring rain except to see how it handles lots of rain water on the roads. Was just my size to except the doors seemed a bit large and heavy...but a nice looking vehicle. Also like the X1 but a bit too pricey for me!!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Probably right here, just really annoyed right now with it. Hope this really is the end of the problems so we can move on! Found out we're losing our BMW location the end of the month, a shame really, and they are bringing in Sixt now. First was Enterprise, then Hertz and now Sixt. This BMW store loses interest quickly it seems. Saw a 228i coupe today, never heard of it before, and it was really sharp in white but it was pouring rain...why do a test drive in the pouring rain except to see how it handles lots of rain water on the roads. Was just my size to except the doors seemed a bit large and heavy...but a nice looking vehicle. Also like the X1 but a bit too pricey for me!!
The Sandman
Ah yes, the 228i. Road & Track recently compared one to an EcoBoost Mustang and an FR-S- their conclusion: "More Buick than Bimmer."
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I am working under the no doubt false assumption that I'm out of the market for a couple of years (pause for laughter). Have three cars for two drivers and like all of them each for its own reason.
Don't get me wrong - if I hit the lottery everything changes but that's my guess on the status quo. I'm hoping buying three cars this year gets me a pass.
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I am working under the no doubt false assumption that I'm out of the market for a couple of years (pause for laughter). Have three cars for two drivers and like all of them each for its own reason.
Don't get me wrong - if I hit the lottery everything changes but that's my guess on the status quo. I'm hoping buying three cars this year gets me a pass.
If I waited to hit the lottery to buy a car, my Mercedes-Benz dealership would become very depressed and would develop apoplexy!
But as I mentioned a few months ago, my current vehicle is definitely going to have an "A service" (oil change and other required services at the 10,000 mile mark) this November or December. It will be the first car I have ever had to live through an oil change for in the last 15 years. Even if I won the lottery tomorrow, I would still be driving my E400 at least until May/June of next year when the 2017 E Class hits the dealerships.
I know everyone on this forum doesn't believe me, but the proof will be in the pudding, so to speak.
Don't care for the color either, rather twee. Big (190" WB!) fat BMWs with miled-up V8s out of warranty and the looks of a Buick just aren't my cup of tea I guess. YRMV
Drove a new '15 Mustang convertible with just over 13k on the clock yesterday...very comfortable and it moved along rather nicely. Not sure I'd ever own one but living down south here, it would be the Mustang to buy if I were to purchase one. Gray with a black drop top, it was a nice combo and can see Ford moving a ton of these. That's the fun part of working at Hertz, I get to drive a large variety of vehicles on a daily basis.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Saw my first M4 on the street yesterday. I love some BMW, but I don't know that I've ever seen one so hideous. It was a yellowish-greenish color with black wheels. I personally would love to test drive an M4, but would be embarrassed to be seen in the one I saw yesterday.
That bright green-gold color fits with the kind of flamboyant no-signal-always-launch-at-4Krpm image BMW wants for it, I think. It might not help brand image.
@nyccarguy - drove a twin to your car today as a loaner while the Outback was at the dealer getting the Eyesight software reprogrammed.
Legacy 2.5i Premium - dark blue with black cloth interior. Nicknamed "Katherine Hepburn" - all the loaner cars at my Subaru dealership are named after famous actors.
I was expecting to be underwhelmed given the comments I've read, but in the 5-6 miles I drove it (all on city streets), I was kinda surprised. Decent pep - of course, 175HP is better than the 148HP in my Elantra, so there's that. Interior exactly the same as my Outback.
If the lease numbers are competitive next fall, it might be a contender ...
@nyccarguy - drove a twin to your car today as a loaner while the Outback was at the dealer getting the Eyesight software reprogrammed.
Legacy 2.5i Premium - dark blue with black cloth interior. Nicknamed "Katherine Hepburn" - all the loaner cars at my Subaru dealership are named after famous actors.
I was expecting to be underwhelmed given the comments I've read, but in the 5-6 miles I drove it (all on city streets), I was kinda surprised. Decent pep - of course, 175HP is better than the 148HP in my Elantra, so there's that. Interior exactly the same as my Outback.
If the lease numbers are competitive next fall, it might be a contender ...
Perception is everything. Around town the car is fine. The Flat 4 and CVT are a great combination. Most of my negative comments directed towards the car's acceleration have to do with trying to merge onto a 2 lane highway, with the car pointed up hill from a complete stop. The power is adequate. The car gets up to speed and drives well on the highway. It doesn't struggle to keep up with traffic.
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For varying reasons with guests in town and weekends with all the kids, I've been driving the minivan for a little while now. The Kia is a nice van, but still... Looking forward to getting back into either the ZHP or the Mazda today (well, after taking the S3 to lunch to meet up with Michael ).
I mentioned this in passing in another forum, so I'd be remiss not to share it on my "home" forum here. I am liking the wife's S3 enough to where I am having dangerous thoughts of something like an S4 or S5 for the next car.
I know I won't be alone here, but right now I'm having a hard time getting too excited about anything in the BMW line-up. I like the 4-series, particularly the Gran Coupe, but even that doesn't get my juices flowing too much. That may change - the infatuation with Audi could be temporary and just represent the shiny new toy...time will tell.
With my new obsession with the Audi "S" cars, I read up on some fairly recent comparison tests, pitting the S5 against an ATS and RC 350 in one, and against the 435i in another. I found it impressive that the Audi, which came out for the '08 model year, bested all those competitors.
I like a car that's been around for awhile, yet is still very competitive. Makes for a nice used car buy.
For varying reasons with guests in town and weekends with all the kids, I've been driving the minivan for a little while now. The Kia is a nice van, but still...
Looks like the Edmunds fleet will be adding a new Sedona soon. Curious to see the blurbs about it, even though I'm not in the market for another van.
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@xwesx, miss your Fiesta? There's one on the corner here that's clean and only overpriced by a couple of thousand bucks.
2011 SE, red, 77,000 miles, automatic, steering wheel stuff, heated seats (was a Mass car), keyless, newer Michelins. He put a Black Box printout with average price of $9,475 to $10,050 for good. He's asking $9,499 OBO.
We show TMV closer to $7,400 private party, clean.
I know, I know, the auto is a deal killer.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
Wife is on her way up to the dealership today so they can do the tint and clear mask. We're also swapping the stock GTI wheels for the nicer wheels that we had on it. My hope is that they will fit on the S3 as a winter set. If not, I may hold on to them in the event I were to get some sort of Golf in the future.
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The brand continues to be plagued by a reputation of quality issues - some of that is deserved, but much of it is simply based on historical track record long gone.
I think they do offer mainstream alternatives that can invoke more passion than the more reliable Japanese brands. Say what you will about the "Americanized" Jetta and Passat - I think they offer a bit more upscale feel than many of their counterparts. The CC is a beautiful offering not matched by the non-luxury competitors. And then of course there is a lot of heritage with the GTI. That they continue to offer a manual trannie on the highest trim level on their wagon impresses me.
We've had several - a Jetta, 2 GTIs, 2 Passats, a Beetle. No significant issues with any of them and we obviously keep going back to them here and there. But the longest we've had any of them was about 75k miles (that was on the wife's Jetta, before we got married and started enabling each other
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2011 BMW 3 - pinhole developed in a/c plumbing at about 20,000 miles.
That's it.
2013 GTI - repaint driver side rear door - defective application at factor.
That's it.
- Ray
Now driving something 'imported from Detroit' ...???
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Sounds like that seller is looking to catch someone unawares. I take the opposite route and look for a reasonable sale, but without the intent of negotiations. I generally figure that anything that I add to the car is basically a sunk cost.
As such, the good part is that I get what I ask for my cars, but the bad part is that people don't try to negotiate most times, so I could probably squeeze a little more out of the sale if I priced a little higher to start. I keep them with care and put time into prepping them for sale, and that stuff leaves a good impression with potential buyers.
I sold my 2011 Fiesta for $10,200 with 56K miles. It was a fully loaded (sans moonroof only) SES hatchback manual transmission and included WeatherTech floorliners, a Curt hitch receiver and trailer wiring (as well as the receiver accessories), set of 15" alloy wheels with Blizzak tires mounted (to be fair, I would have replaced the tires (~$550) before this winter, but they could be used for another winter if someone wanted), and maintenance supplies for this summer's oil change (~$80 worth of stuff there). Oh, and it was still under factory 5/60 warranty for another 4,000 miles or 13 months (at the time), whichever came sooner. That always helps.
While it took a few weeks of advertising before someone came to take a look at it, they were the ones that bought it.
'..I only had them for less than 2 years and/or 20k miles, it doesn't mean a whole lot. '
I was thinking mostly in terms of 'initial quality' here -
The BMW I had for 26 months [ 27 mo. lease ] and just over 30,000 miles.
The GTI [ um ] less...
- Ray
CCBA to the core
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@breld Great purchase on the S3!
If it's $.20 a mile, I'm looking at just over $1000 if your estimate is correct
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Really really do like this vehicle and nothing I'd rather have at this point...maybe that Honda HR-V but would wait a few years to see where I'm at mileage wise and how things hold up with the Golf. Right now, loving my Golf!!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
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As much as I like the concept of the HR-V, the fact that it only has 140HP gives me the feeling it will be very, uh, Honda-like. More of an appliance than anything you really engage with.
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Found out we're losing our BMW location the end of the month, a shame really, and they are bringing in Sixt now. First was Enterprise, then Hertz and now Sixt. This BMW store loses interest quickly it seems. Saw a 228i coupe today, never heard of it before, and it was really sharp in white but it was pouring rain...why do a test drive in the pouring rain except to see how it handles lots of rain water on the roads. Was just my size to except the doors seemed a bit large and heavy...but a nice looking vehicle. Also like the X1 but a bit too pricey for me!!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Don't get me wrong - if I hit the lottery everything changes but that's my guess on the status quo. I'm hoping buying three cars this year gets me a pass.
But as I mentioned a few months ago, my current vehicle is definitely going to have an "A service" (oil change and other required services at the 10,000 mile mark) this November or December. It will be the first car I have ever had to live through an oil change for in the last 15 years. Even if I won the lottery tomorrow, I would still be driving my E400 at least until May/June of next year when the 2017 E Class hits the dealerships.
I know everyone on this forum doesn't believe me, but the proof will be in the pudding, so to speak.
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I did BMW's Ultimate Driving Experience last Thursday. Got to toss M3's, M4's, and M235's around all day.
M4's are fast, and handle like they are on rails. I've been interested in them for a while, but after driving them, I really want one now.
Really looking forward to not using my turn signals, and always launching at 4000 RPM!
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Legacy 2.5i Premium - dark blue with black cloth interior. Nicknamed "Katherine Hepburn" - all the loaner cars at my Subaru dealership are named after famous actors.
I was expecting to be underwhelmed given the comments I've read, but in the 5-6 miles I drove it (all on city streets), I was kinda surprised. Decent pep - of course, 175HP is better than the 148HP in my Elantra, so there's that. Interior exactly the same as my Outback.
If the lease numbers are competitive next fall, it might be a contender ...
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I mentioned this in passing in another forum, so I'd be remiss not to share it on my "home" forum here. I am liking the wife's S3 enough to where I am having dangerous thoughts of something like an S4 or S5 for the next car.
I know I won't be alone here, but right now I'm having a hard time getting too excited about anything in the BMW line-up. I like the 4-series, particularly the Gran Coupe, but even that doesn't get my juices flowing too much. That may change - the infatuation with Audi could be temporary and just represent the shiny new toy...time will tell.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
I like a car that's been around for awhile, yet is still very competitive. Makes for a nice used car buy.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman