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oldfarmer50 · December 2015

Re: Driver100's comment on Canadian driver in Cuba.

Sounds like a shake down which many third world countries are famous for.

fezo · December 2015

My Amazon cors would always slip out of my iPod or phone. Not good on the road when you discover that you think it's been charging but was loose.

Having an off day today.

Well, it looks like there's going to be about a $2,000 difference between what insurance wants to pay and what fixing the car right will cost. One way or another I'll squeeze it together. I'd been thinking I'd just pocket the insurance check and pounce on the next one that comes along but right now I want to fix it.

fezo · December 2015

OK, ignore previous car statement. Now I don't understand this but the insurance company is ready to cut me a check for more than what the body shop is ready to fix it for. Why they would not just pay the guy and save themselves some money I don't know but I'll take it.

I told the body shop to go ahead and fix it. They do terrific work. Have it back the first week in January and throw the cover on it until March or April or, if the weather continues like it has, drop the top and drive about.

Insurance came in at more than I paid for the car. There's a nice one up in Connecticut with fewer miles and is the Special Edition (6 speed as opposed to five) and is in better condition but I'm not going to worry about that. Bad time of year to play that.

So this day has turned around nicely. I still need a nap.

suydam · December 2015

Nice to hear it worked out. Insurance fixes and cars are such a hassle.

abacomike · December 2015

fezo said:

OK, ignore previous car statement. Now I don't understand this but the insurance company is ready to cut me a check for more than what the body shop is ready to fix it for. Why they would not just pay the guy and save themselves some money I don't know but I'll take it. I told the body shop to go ahead and fix it. They do terrific work. Have it back the first week in January and throw the cover on it until March or April or, if the weather continues like it has, drop the top and drive about. Insurance came in at more than I paid for the car. There's a nice one up in Connecticut with fewer miles and is the Special Edition (6 speed as opposed to five) and is in better condition but I'm not going to worry about that. Bad time of year to play that. So this day has turned around nicely. I still need a nap.

You and I both need a nap!!!

ab348 · December 2015

I'm a Monoprice man myself...

imidazol97 · December 2015

fezo said:
OK, ignore previous car statement. Now I don't understand this but the insurance company is ready to cut me a check for more than what the body shop is ready to fix it for. Why they would not just pay the guy and save themselves some money I don't know but I'll take it..

Sound like the insurance company actually expects overruns on the repair costs if the insurance company is paying. They'd rather just give you a little more and not be responsible for those extra cost items that get discovered at the shop.

oldfarmer50 · December 2015

Hey driver100. Run over to Plant City and pick up this little gem for me. He's giving Canadians a discount.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5371269296.html

I'll pick it up when my wife throws me out for buying another car and I come to sleep on your couch.

nyccarguy · December 2015

@fezo - where in CT?

abacomike · December 2015

It's now been almost 4 months since I upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7. I still have had no problems, whatsoever, with the operating system. My HP PC is running 3 times faster than it did using Win 7. I am also using their new browser which is also lightning fast.

I I know that some of you have had problems with Win 10. I wonder if it has something to do with RAM quantity and processor speed. I have 12 gigs of RAM and the first generation I7 Intel processor operating at 3.33 MHz. I have heard that updating to Win 10 from Win 8 has unique issues.

I've read here that many of you are happy with Win 10. Just thought I would update my experiences with Win 10.

stever · December 2015

Good to hear. My desktop's E5200 cpu dates back to 2008, mildly overclocked, with 8 gigs of ram. Runs Win10 fine, and I upgraded from Win8.1. My old "garage" ThinkPad was having trouble upgrading but the latest update earlier this week may have fixed the return from sleep issue I was having. I'm using Edge on that one, but mostly for listening to net radio in the garage.

Happy Solstice y'all - always nice to see the days getting longer.

stickguy · December 2015

Farmer, I like that Lebaron too. Though digital dash gives me pause. I always thought that body style was exceptionally good looking, and one of the best ever to come out of Detroit.

Mike, so far, 10 on my laptop been fine so far. And this is a pretty cheap Lenovo that doesn't have much ram or anything fancy for a processor. I went straight from 7.

when I get a chance, going to do my 5 or so YO desktop (also sitting on 7 still).

I'm skipping 8 entirely!

driver100 · December 2015

oldfarmer50 said:
Hey driver100. Run over to Plant City and pick up this little gem for me. He's giving Canadians a discount.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5371269296.html

I'll pick it up when my wife throws me out for buying another car and I come to sleep on your couch.

Sounds like a great buy, and it is only about 50 minutes from here. Special Canadian discount is nice since our money has sunk to 70 cents per US dollar.

I like the style of those cars too....

It has 88k miles and almost new tires so they were probably replaced at 80k for the second time.

How much commission if I consummate the deal?

houdini1 · December 2015

abacomike said:

Mr_Shiftright said:
For centuries, that was the reason to HAVE kids. They would help you in old age. Now, as we live under the mantle of Freud or Dr. Phil, we seem to have developed this perverse idea that we have to keep helping them from the grave. Natch, if they were truly struggling in life, then of course. And sure, I'd rather leave everything to my heirs rather than the State of California---LOL!

Here in Florida, we are very lucky - no inheritance taxes and no income taxes. I also have a $25,000 homestead exemption for the property taxes on my condo (permanent residents get that exemption after a certain length of time and then you have to apply for it). My property taxes are just under $700 a year - more than reasonable.

The only things I have to worry about regarding inheritance is personal and real property (Condo, furniture/contents and Car), and that is covered in my will. Everything else is POD which is how I have all my accounts listed. So the State and Federal Governments don't get a thing (my estate is much too small to be affected by Federal Estate Taxes).

Now that I have some real health problems, I want to make sure everything is in order, if you know what I mean.

Dang, I'm moving to Florida. Just paid our 2015 property tax, $8,006.

abacomike · December 2015

@houdini1 said:

"Dang, I'm moving to Florida. Just paid our 2015 property tax, $8,006."

Remember, my Condo is a 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom apartment with a large living room and dining room and a large kitchen with dinette area and a large terrace - but it is still an apartment. I also pay $5800 a year to the Condo association for grounds and building maintenance and security. So it isn't as cheap as you think to live here.

Then, periodically, there are special assessments for streets and roads, building roof replacement, etc. this is by no means a "SHANGRI-LA"!

But having no inheritance taxes and no State income taxes is a blessing!

houdini1 · December 2015

That is true. Each state gets you one way or the other. Some just more than others. The biggest cost, for me, to live in
Florida would be the heat, humidity, and bugs !

qbrozen · December 2015

Property taxes in our homes are $17k for our primary and $9k in the rental. I also pay pretty steep state income tax, plus 7% sales tax, plus real estate transfer tax, plus, plus, plus.

driver100 · December 2015

houdini1 said:
That is true. Each state gets you one way or the other. Some just more than others. The biggest cost, for me, to live in
Florida would be the heat, humidity, and bugs !

Well, you would have to compare:

Negatives of Moving to Kansas City

Weather – Located on the plains, Kansas City can get hit hard by wind and cold weather, though temperatures stay more moderate than further-north cities, like Chicago and Minneapolis. Summers can see extremely hot and humid temperatures.

Tornadoes – Kansas City is located in the middle of Tornado Alley, making its tornado-prone status worthy of its own “bad weather” section. The metro was hit hard by tornadoes in 1957 and 2003.

oldfarmer50 · December 2015

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Hey driver100. Run over to Plant City and pick up this little gem for me. He's giving Canadians a discount.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5371269296.html

I'll pick it up when my wife throws me out for buying another car and I come to sleep on your couch.
Sounds like a great buy, and it is only about 50 minutes from here. Special Canadian discount is nice since our money has sunk to 70 cents per US dollar.

I like the style of those cars too....

It has 88k miles and almost new tires so they were probably replaced at 80k for the second time.

How much commission if I consummate the deal?

I'll bring coffee when I arrive.

oldfarmer50 · December 2015

My wife baked some Christmas cookies today. She's been making them as long as I can remember. Brought back memories of cars gone by particularly Chryslers which I was a big fan of 40 years ago. Like the 74 Charger she traded her Camaro for on my recommendation. Beautiful car. Looked like this color combo just 5 years newer.

Wish Chrysler made something like that today.

berri · December 2015

My old college roommate had a 69 Mustang in a somewhat similar silvery green color with a black vinyl top. Sharp car. I like the looks of that LeBaron as well.

ab348 · December 2015

My experience with Win 10 continues to be rocky. Yesterday the machine said that the printer attached to it was "offline" and Win 10 offered no way to set it back to online. I could still print remotely via WiFi from my other laptop that it isn't connected to. I tried to reconnect it by going into Win 10 and removing the printer - it said it was doing it but never finished. I then went to the Canon website and downloaded the latest drivers - which were the same as it already said it had. Eventually I just shut the thing down. When it restarted, it finally saw the printer and let me install it again. The whole process only took an hour of my day.

But wait, there's more! Today Outlook locked up completely. I have it all kinds of time - actually went out and came back to find the little wheel still spinning and "Not Responding" up at the top of the screen. I had to physically power it down with the power switch and then restart it. After about 10 minutes of gyrations it finally came back to life.

This is an Intel i5 processor, 8 gigs of memory. I remain very wary of Win 10.

stickguy · December 2015

qbrozen said:
Property taxes in our homes are $17k for our primary and $9k in the rental. I also pay pretty steep state income tax, plus 7% sales tax, plus real estate transfer tax, plus, plus, plus.

And, that is why I keep telling my wife we need to move, now that our youngest is out of HS. We paid through the nose all those years for the schools, and now I see no reason to keep paying for what we don't need!

thankfully we are closer to your old house than the new one, but still over 10K.

abacomike · December 2015

@ab348:

It seems that it is not a reliable operating system for all PC's and laptops. For some it operates perfectly while for others, it functions intermittently. The operating system is just not a panacea for every computer.

stever · December 2015

Property taxes here are $1100 a year. The looky-loos today spent an hour with the Realtor looking at our place but who knows if they'll make an offer. When we were shopping hard, we'd size up a place in 10 minutes and only a few kept us more than half an hour. Mostly curious to see what level of interest there is and it was a good excuse to clean the house for our company that's arriving on the 25th.

I made sure to move the van to our neighbors so that nice epoxy garage floor would stand out.

Michaell · December 2015

stever said:
Property taxes here are $1100 a year. The looky-loos today spent an hour with the Realtor looking at our place but who knows if they'll make an offer. When we were shopping hard, we'd size up a place in 10 minutes and only a few kept us more than half an hour. Mostly curious to see what level of interest there is and it was a good excuse to clean the house for our company that's arriving on the 25th.

I made sure to move the van to our neighbors so that nice epoxy garage floor would stand out.

And my property taxes are around $2200 a year here in Colorado.

tjc78 · December 2015

stickguy said:

Property taxes in our homes are $17k for our primary and $9k in the rental. I also pay pretty steep state income tax, plus 7% sales tax, plus real estate transfer tax, plus, plus, plus.
And, that is why I keep telling my wife we need to move, now that our youngest is out of HS. We paid through the nose all those years for the schools, and now I see no reason to keep paying for what we don't need! thankfully we are closer to your old house than the new one, but still over 10K.

It's just so out of control here. I pay over 6k for a modest rancher on a tiny lot.

stickguy · December 2015

now you all have me even more geared up to finally get the heck out of here! Sadly, I don't see it happening before the princess graduates college and settles someplace.

besides, it will take at least 2 years to clean out enough of my wife's junk to list it right and move!

funny thing, my neighbors across the street recently retired (about 60) and have their house under contract. moving to their shore house. And last week, next door to them, another 60 something guy and his ex-wife/current girlfriend have theirs listed. No clue where they are going though, or if he is stopping work at the Ford dealer. My guess, going down south.

the old folks turning over the big houses to the young families!

oldfarmer50 · December 2015

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

qbrozen said:
Property taxes in our homes are $17k for our primary and $9k in the rental. I also pay pretty steep state income tax, plus 7% sales tax, plus real estate transfer tax, plus, plus, plus.
And, that is why I keep telling my wife we need to move, now that our youngest is out of HS. We paid through the nose all those years for the schools, and now I see no reason to keep paying for what we don't need!

thankfully we are closer to your old house than the new one, but still over 10K.

It's just so out of control here. I pay over 6k for a modest rancher on a tiny lot.

Just heard on the radio that 159,000 people fled NY last year. About the same last year. Taxes and rust free southern cars are probably the reason.

graphicguy · December 2015

So, think I mentioned that while the wife is away in China for an extended stay, I was going to take a cruise, which I did, last week.

Always fun, but a little different doing it solo. Interesting, though...how people react to you when they find out you're solo. Different story for a different time, however.

Anyway, got back last Saturday. I had cruised out of Bayonne, NJ. New ship (Anthem of the Seas), so it was beautiful. Itinerary wasn't so great (NJ to Cape Canaveral to Bahamas and back).

Those of you who have never cruised, while most food and entertainment is included, drinks and casino plar are/is not. Drinks are probably a bit overpriced, but aside from a couple of beers and some good bourbon at day's end, I wasn't the lush some onboard appeared to be.

For the first time in a LOOOONNNNNGGGG time, I was actually a casino winner playing blackjack, and where I really won quite a bit, 3 card poker. All-in-all, I was probably up at one time by $1,600, but ended up about $1,400 when all was said and done...enough to pay for the cruise, just about.

They keep a credit card on file (in my case, AMEX) for your drinks, and the very stupid art auctions (which seem shady to me), incidentals, etc. My total bill at the end of the week was about $125 for drinks. Didn't buy any art, nor jewelry, or anything else for that matter.

Arrived back home and got a call a day later from AMEX questioning a charge I had made. I bought some Christmas gifts in the Bahamas and figured they were questioning those.

Nope....it was for $2,400 somewhere in NJ, appeared to be electronics. I was shocked. I told the nice AMEX agent it wasn't me. I also inquired when these charges happened. She said "it's happening now". I guess they got lucky to have caught me immediately. And, from what I could tell, they nabbed the thief on the spot. So, expecting this in the Bahamas, it actually happened in NJ. Who knows how they got my number. I ate at a restaurant in the airport and put it on my AMEX. But, that would have meant someone in the restaurant was stealing numbers. Could have been one of those people who scan people's pockets, and an airport would be a perfect place to do so. Someone who works for the cruise company?

I sure don't like that feeling, either way, given I travel for work so much.

They had a new card to me by Monday. I guess AMEX got lucky in catching the perps. I was even luckier given they were diligent and I am not responsible.

qbrozen · December 2015

I always wonder how/when they decide to flag a charge. Like you said, here you made a charge in the Bahamas with not one eyebrow raised. Electronics in NJ just before the holidays seems perfectly reasonable, on the other hand, yet they put a stop to it.

suydam · December 2015

Nowadays if the charge is a large number they often text or email before it goes though. My last two Apple purchases I got a text asking me to verify it was really me making the purchase.

abacomike · December 2015

suydam said:

Nowadays if the charge is a large number they often text or email before it goes though. My last two Apple purchases I got a text asking me to verify it was really me making the purchase.

Scary about GG's experience. My Identity was stolen 8 years ago. Was lucky it was just a cable TV connection in Tallahassie. Then, someone tried to open a black AMEX card with my name. They denied it because I had a fraud alert on the credit reporting companies.

I check my credit cards and bank accounts twice a day to check on every charge or withdrawal to pay bills. You just can't be too careful these days.

stickguy · December 2015

I have the card we use for all online purchases set to email me any time a charge of $20 hits it. Just in case.

Plus that is one kids have at school, so good way to keep an eye on them! And what the wife is buying online.

I also always pay cash at restaurants. I hate handing them a card. Same at gas stations. Gas co. CC Or cash, with rare exceptions (when traveling)

qbrozen · December 2015

To be honest, I think we are pretty careless about protecting our credit cards and identities. Almost everything goes on our Amex each month and I rarely keep an eye on it.

isellhondas · December 2015

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Hey driver100. Run over to Plant City and pick up this little gem for me. He's giving Canadians a discount.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5371269296.html

I'll pick it up when my wife throws me out for buying another car and I come to sleep on your couch.
Sounds like a great buy, and it is only about 50 minutes from here. Special Canadian discount is nice since our money has sunk to 70 cents per US dollar.

I like the style of those cars too....

It has 88k miles and almost new tires so they were probably replaced at 80k for the second time.

How much commission if I consummate the deal?

Why would anyone ruin the looks of that car by installing those gaudy chrome mouldings around the wheel openings? Anyway, Merry Christmas to all of you and may 2016 bring all of us good health and joy!

isellhondas · December 2015

Mr_Shiftright said:
Shifty Sez:

Happy Holidays to Everyone and Their Families!

The same back at you! Appreciate your vast vault of automotive knowledge throughout the years!

graphicguy · December 2015

isellhondas said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Hey driver100. Run over to Plant City and pick up this little gem for me. He's giving Canadians a discount.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5371269296.html

I'll pick it up when my wife throws me out for buying another car and I come to sleep on your couch.
Sounds like a great buy, and it is only about 50 minutes from here. Special Canadian discount is nice since our money has sunk to 70 cents per US dollar.

I like the style of those cars too....

It has 88k miles and almost new tires so they were probably replaced at 80k for the second time.

How much commission if I consummate the deal?

Why would anyone ruin the looks of that car by installing those gaudy chrome mouldings around the wheel openings? Anyway, Merry Christmas to all of you and may 2016 bring all of us good health and joy!

I'm guessing those moldings were put on there by the "SENIOR" owner. About the time those cars were on the roads was about the time when those types of moldings were popular.

I actually like that car. If I had a place to store it, I'd make a run at it and use it as a summer grocery getter, to use when the weather's nice.

imidazol97 · December 2015

Gas pump skimmers have shown up in SW Ohio where graphicguy and I live. News stories alledge Cubans roaming the area.

We notified two credit cards that my son used when he traveled for training in recent months to be sure he didnt get blocked. One of his cards had automatically been blocked when he tried to make a purchase when he was finishing his degree at OSU. He switched to the other card to pay. I had used my card on that account to make a purchase at Wal-Mart and Kroger and he used his to make a purchase at Kroger near campus. Blocked.

Their algorithms determining if purchases are not typical have become really sophisticated.

venture · December 2015

ab348 said:
My experience with Win 10 continues to be rocky. Yesterday the machine said that the printer attached to it was "offline" and Win 10 offered no way to set it back to online. I could still print remotely via WiFi from my other laptop that it isn't connected to. I tried to reconnect it by going into Win 10 and removing the printer - it said it was doing it but never finished. I then went to the Canon website and downloaded the latest drivers - which were the same as it already said it had. Eventually I just shut the thing down. When it restarted, it finally saw the printer and let me install it again. The whole process only took an hour of my day.

But wait, there's more! Today Outlook locked up completely. I have it all kinds of time - actually went out and came back to find the little wheel still spinning and "Not Responding" up at the top of the screen. I had to physically power it down with the power switch and then restart it. After about 10 minutes of gyrations it finally came back to life.

This is an Intel i5 processor, 8 gigs of memory. I remain very wary of Win 10.

I had a problem with my printers after going to Windows 10. I went to the web sites and downloaded drivers compatible with Windows 10 and they started working again. Other than that pretty smooth sailing so far. This desktop is a Dell XPS 8300 and it has plenty of horsepower.

What happened to Windows 9?

graphicguy · December 2015

qbrozen said:
To be honest, I think we are pretty careless about protecting our credit cards and identities. Almost everything goes on our Amex each month and I rarely keep an eye on it.

Q.....I use my AMEX mostly for business travel. My company pays the $500 yearly fee for it, but I'm responsible for all charges on it. I file expense reports to cover my business charges.

It has lots of perks that I like....I can use travle lounges at airports. I get immeidate upgreades with Hyatt (or is it Hilton?). I rack up lots of points. They pay for my TSA and Global precheck fees. On and on.....

I give my bill a quick glance, and if nothing looks out of line, I'm good. I'll have to start giving it more scrutiny.

venture · December 2015

isellhondas said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Hey driver100. Run over to Plant City and pick up this little gem for me. He's giving Canadians a discount.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5371269296.html

I'll pick it up when my wife throws me out for buying another car and I come to sleep on your couch.
Sounds like a great buy, and it is only about 50 minutes from here. Special Canadian discount is nice since our money has sunk to 70 cents per US dollar.

I like the style of those cars too....

It has 88k miles and almost new tires so they were probably replaced at 80k for the second time.

How much commission if I consummate the deal?

Why would anyone ruin the looks of that car by installing those gaudy chrome mouldings around the wheel openings? Anyway, Merry Christmas to all of you and may 2016 bring all of us good health and joy!

Maybe they are covering up the rust.

PF_Flyer · December 2015

Road trips abound this week. Been going out on recruiting visits to high school games with my daughter who coaches at Juniata College. We were in fog most of the way last night for a 200 mile round tripper. I think we have one on Christmas Eve too. Ooo... look at the pretty lights!

abacomike · December 2015

venture said:

ab348 said:
My experience with Win 10 continues to be rocky. Yesterday the machine said that the printer attached to it was "offline" and Win 10 offered no way to set it back to online. I could still print remotely via WiFi from my other laptop that it isn't connected to. I tried to reconnect it by going into Win 10 and removing the printer - it said it was doing it but never finished. I then went to the Canon website and downloaded the latest drivers - which were the same as it already said it had. Eventually I just shut the thing down. When it restarted, it finally saw the printer and let me install it again. The whole process only took an hour of my day.

But wait, there's more! Today Outlook locked up completely. I have it all kinds of time - actually went out and came back to find the little wheel still spinning and "Not Responding" up at the top of the screen. I had to physically power it down with the power switch and then restart it. After about 10 minutes of gyrations it finally came back to life.

This is an Intel i5 processor, 8 gigs of memory. I remain very wary of Win 10.
I had a problem with my printers after going to Windows 10. I went to the web sites and downloaded drivers compatible with Windows 10 and they started working again. Other than that pretty smooth sailing so far. This desktop is a Dell XPS 8300 and it has plenty of horsepower.

What happened to Windows 9?

What do you think Windows 10 is? Windows 9 in disguise!

carnaught · December 2015

Actually CC fraud is the easiest to reverse, and the most cc companies do not hold you responsible for over $50 in fraudulent charges. AMEX is especially good at protecting you. I am more concerned about i.d. theft to a bank account, or especially getting one's personal info. like your SS number. They can set up a line a credit, and buy under your name.

My sister had an envelope, with her payment by check to her utility company, opened, the check was washed and forged to the perpetrator. She just happened to go to her bank acct. site, and see a copy of this check within a day. Calling the bank about it, they credited the few hundred bucks back to her. The perp., however, got away with it (happened in S. Fl.), but at least she recovered her funds.

henryn · December 2015

“most cc companies do not hold you responsible for over $50 in fraudulent charges.”

Federal law limits your maximum loss from credit card fraud / theft to $50.

Search for FCBA (Fair Credit Billing Act).

The liability for a debit card is a little more complex. If you report the loss within 2 days, the limit is $50. More than 2 days, less than 60 days, $500. The problem with the debit card is that it can take days / weeks / months for the bank or other financial institution to replace the missing funds.

I prefer to use a debit card, but I use my Amex much more often because I have better protection and less to lose.

The reason I prefer to use the debit card might seem silly to some, but it’s real to me. If I pay cash (debit), the expenditure is done and over with. If I use the Amex card, then when the bill comes in and I have to write the check, it’s like I’m spending the money a second time.

If I spend several hundred dollars on some new toy, I don’t want the pain of paying for it to happen twice.

stickguy · December 2015

I tell my kids to never use the debit card. For some reason they both started to use it everywhere, basically replacing cash.

stever · December 2015

I have one for a local account that usually has under $1,000 in it. Occasionally use it but don't really trust it and I refuse to get one for the main bank account. Don't like carrying cash either, so it's the credit card that gets the most use. That gets paid electronically but I don't use automatic withdrawal for anything.

isellhondas · December 2015

venture said:

ab348 said:
My experience with Win 10 continues to be rocky. Yesterday the machine said that the printer attached to it was "offline" and Win 10 offered no way to set it back to online. I could still print remotely via WiFi from my other laptop that it isn't connected to. I tried to reconnect it by going into Win 10 and removing the printer - it said it was doing it but never finished. I then went to the Canon website and downloaded the latest drivers - which were the same as it already said it had. Eventually I just shut the thing down. When it restarted, it finally saw the printer and let me install it again. The whole process only took an hour of my day.

But wait, there's more! Today Outlook locked up completely. I have it all kinds of time - actually went out and came back to find the little wheel still spinning and "Not Responding" up at the top of the screen. I had to physically power it down with the power switch and then restart it. After about 10 minutes of gyrations it finally came back to life.

This is an Intel i5 processor, 8 gigs of memory. I remain very wary of Win 10.
I had a problem with my printers after going to Windows 10. I went to the web sites and downloaded drivers compatible with Windows 10 and they started working again. Other than that pretty smooth sailing so far. This desktop is a Dell XPS 8300 and it has plenty of horsepower.

What happened to Windows 9?

I fought Windows 10 for several days as did my VERY computer savvy cousin. We were SO happy that we were able to switch back to Win 7. Never a problem EVER with Win 7.

Other people have made the switch with no problems.

berri · December 2015

My philosophy is if you want a new operating system, buy a new device with it installed. Too many potential driver, software, etc. conflicts when you upgrade that can take up a bunch of time resolving.

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