I have an offer for a '16 GX460, Silver exterior, black interior, base + premium package, blind spot monitor, cargo mats/liners, leather trimmed steering wheel/nob, headlamp washers. $57,785 MSRP, offered at $54,900, 10k miles/year, 3 years lease. 62% residual and .0018 MF. Any concerns?
I have an offer for a '16 GX460, Silver exterior, black interior, base + premium package, blind spot monitor, cargo mats/liners, leather trimmed steering wheel/nob, headlamp washers. $57,785 MSRP, offered at $54,900, 10k miles/year, 3 years lease. 62% residual and .0018 MF. Any concerns?
That residual seems wrong for 36/10 for 2016. Should be 66%.
62% is the 2015 model residual for 36/10.
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I'm currently looking at the 2016gx460 lease deal of 499 a month for 36 months w/10k miles per year. MSRP is approximately 51350.
Can you tell me the MF and RV for this month? Also, is it possible to negotiate the base MF lower depending on credit score and if I negotiate the price down to about 49500, how will that affect the lease? Will the RV be based on the original MSRP or the new negotiated number?
I'm currently looking at the 2016gx460 lease deal of 499 a month for 36 months w/10k miles per year. MSRP is approximately 51350.
Can you tell me the MF and RV for this month? Also, is it possible to negotiate the base MF lower depending on credit score and if I negotiate the price down to about 49500, how will that affect the lease? Will the RV be based on the original MSRP or the new negotiated number?
thanks much
66% and .00180 for 36/10. The MF is base and cannot go any lower except by using multiple security deposits.
Every $1000 off the selling price reduces the pre-tax lease payment about $28/mo.
Residual is always calculated against the bottom line number of the window sticker.
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NJ Lexus Dealer quoted 66% RV and .00190 for current MF and not the .00180 Michaell quoted. I saw this on the "book" the guy pulled out of his desk. Is this correct for NJ or a customer only copy they like to use to up the MF?
NJ Lexus Dealer quoted 66% RV and .00190 for current MF and not the .00180 Michaell quoted. I saw this on the "book" the guy pulled out of his desk. Is this correct for NJ or a customer only copy they like to use to up the MF?
this is on the base GX460
The .00180 was an educated guess on my part. Could very well be .00190 as the base MF.
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I was quoted a 65% residual value today on a 36-month / 12k mile lease today for a 2016 GX460 Luxury. However, dealer quoted me their Tier 1 MF rate of .00290 which seems extremely high. It just isn't competitive compared to other vehicles we are considering.
Is this the true Tier 1 MF for February or is the dealer marking this up? Should I consider shopping another dealer as their are 5 dealers in my area? Thanks.
I was quoted a 65% residual value today on a 36-month / 12k mile lease today for a 2016 GX460 Luxury. However, dealer quoted me their Tier 1 MF rate of .00290 which seems extremely high. It just isn't competitive compared to other vehicles we are considering.
Is this the true Tier 1 MF for February or is the dealer marking this up? Should I consider shopping another dealer as their are 5 dealers in my area? Thanks.
I confirm the 36/12 residual as 65%, but I'm showing the base MF as .00190. Dealer can mark up the MF for extra profit.
Absolutely suggest contacting the other dealers .. it only takes one to meet your numbers.
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I was quoted a 65% residual value today on a 36-month / 12k mile lease today for a 2016 GX460 Luxury. However, dealer quoted me their Tier 1 MF rate of .00290 which seems extremely high. It just isn't competitive compared to other vehicles we are considering.
Is this the true Tier 1 MF for February or is the dealer marking this up? Should I consider shopping another dealer as their are 5 dealers in my area? Thanks.
I confirm the 36/12 residual as 65%, but I'm showing the base MF as .00190. Dealer can mark up the MF for extra profit.
Absolutely suggest contacting the other dealers .. it only takes one to meet your numbers.
Thanks Michaell for the quick response and confirming my suspicion. I will look to the other dealers to get a better deal. Much appreciated!
For the benefit of this forum, 3 other dealers confirmed that February base MF is .00190 and 65% residual on 36/12. They are hoping that March provides some financing incentives on the GX as they have not had any, with March being one of Lexus' 3 big sales events of the year.
For the benefit of this forum, 3 other dealers confirmed that February base MF is .00190 and 65% residual on 36/12. They are hoping that March provides some financing incentives on the GX as they have not had any, with March being one of Lexus' 3 big sales events of the year.
Thanks for the update ... the GX is not a big seller, so I'm guessing that Lexus doesn't see much need to lower the MF by much, even if they do decide to.
I think I saw the MF around .00140-.00155 at some point last year.
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For the benefit of this forum, 3 other dealers confirmed that February base MF is .00190 and 65% residual on 36/12. They are hoping that March provides some financing incentives on the GX as they have not had any, with March being one of Lexus' 3 big sales events of the year.
Thanks for the update ... the GX is not a big seller, so I'm guessing that Lexus doesn't see much need to lower the MF by much, even if they do decide to.
I think I saw the MF around .00140-.00155 at some point last year.
HI. This was my first lease, NJ state 03/19/16 : Base model MSRP 51750 45month/10000 miles 6800 cash at signing (4500 security deposit + 2300(registration+acquisition+decument+tire tax & EPA fee+first payment))
HI. This was my first lease, NJ state 03/19/16 : Base model MSRP 51750 45month/10000 miles 6800 cash at signing (4500 security deposit + 2300(registration+acquisition+decument+tire tax & EPA fee+first payment))
Hello, I leased a 2016 GX 460 with Navigation package, BSM, Parking assist, Sticker: 54,820 Gross Cap Cost: 49,894.95 Cap Cost Reduction: 5,401.31 (I traded a leased 2013 Honda Pilot with nice Equity+negotiated) Residual: 30,699.20 0.0018 MF Down: First Month, Monthly $452 X 48 Months, 12K/year
Hello, I leased a 2016 GX 460 with Navigation package, BSM, Parking assist, Sticker: 54,820 Gross Cap Cost: 49,894.95 Cap Cost Reduction: 5,401.31 (I traded a leased 2013 Honda Pilot with nice Equity+negotiated) Residual: 30,699.20 0.0018 MF Down: First Month, Monthly $452 X 48 Months, 12K/year
Congrats! Enjoy the new GX.
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I received a quote from a local deal for a 2016 GX 460 Premium but if feel the payment doesnt add up. Can you please verify. Thank you
MSRP: $58,203 Sales Price: $55,998 (feel like I can get better) Tax: $559.00 (in June Lexus had a 1% tax on the GX. That has change for July. Texas tax is 6.25%) License, fee, reg.: $337.25 Acquisition fee: $700.00 Residual:66% 36month, 10k miles, MF .00265 (I'm sure I can get .00190 from another dealer) Down payment: $1,300.00 Monthly: $771.62
I'm sure payment will change since I will have to pay 6.25% tax
I received a quote from a local deal for a 2016 GX 460 Premium but if feel the payment doesnt add up. Can you please verify. Thank you
MSRP: $58,203 Sales Price: $55,998 (feel like I can get better) Tax: $559.00 (in June Lexus had a 1% tax on the GX. That has change for July. Texas tax is 6.25%) License, fee, reg.: $337.25 Acquisition fee: $700.00 Residual:66% 36month, 10k miles, MF .00265 (I'm sure I can get .00190 from another dealer) Down payment: $1,300.00 Monthly: $771.62
I'm sure payment will change since I will have to pay 6.25% tax
The marked up MF is killing you on this deal. And the ending of the tax promotion in Texas is going to hurt, as well.
If you pay all the fees and taxes up front and use the sales price as the adjusted cap cost, I get $668/mo using the .00190 MF; $739/mo with the .00265 MF
Ask the dealer what they are using for the adjusted cap cost - my guess is that the $1300 out of pocket isn't covering everything and the rest is being added into the selling price
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I got a decent deal on a GX 460 with premium package. MSRP $57,353. Cannot recall the cap but it was in the area of $53,500 $1,250 down including 1st monthly payment of $654.97 including $45.70 7.5% tax. 35 x $654.97 ($609.27 + $45.70) thereafter.
Went to the dealership, was presented with the paperwork and could not understand few things. I hope the pros here can shed the light.
On the LFS lease application in Section 17 they list total taxes I will pay. The amount was $5,770. Neither the salesperson nor the finance guy could answer where this amount came from. The origination taxes and fees were included in the down payment around $550. Total taxes I'd pay on monthly payments = 36 x $45.70 = $1,642 The sum does not come close to $5,770. Please explain it to us.
Also, there were some Rent Charges in the amount of ~$4K. What are they ? I do not recall having these rent charges when I leased other brand.
Since nobody could figure out what the aforementioned things were, I left to come tomorrow.
I got a decent deal on a GX 460 with premium package. MSRP $57,353. Cannot recall the cap but it was in the area of $53,500 $1,250 down including 1st monthly payment of $654.97 including $45.70 7.5% tax. 35 x $654.97 ($609.27 + $45.70) thereafter.
Went to the dealership, was presented with the paperwork and could not understand few things. I hope the pros here can shed the light.
On the LFS lease application in Section 17 they list total taxes I will pay. The amount was $5,770. Neither the salesperson nor the finance guy could answer where this amount came from. The origination taxes and fees were included in the down payment around $550. Total taxes I'd pay on monthly payments = 36 x $45.70 = $1,642 The sum does not come close to $5,770. Please explain it to us.
Also, there were some Rent Charges in the amount of ~$4K. What are they ? I do not recall having these rent charges when I leased other brand.
Since nobody could figure out what the aforementioned things were, I left to come tomorrow.
Infinite thanks in advance,
What state is this?
Rent charge is the lease term for interest - you'll pay that on every lease, though some forms use different names.
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Taxafornia. I am fortunate to have only 7.5% sales tax. But it's going up in Nov
Please and thank you
Thanks - CA only assesses sales tax against the monthly payment, not the entire purchase price. Dealers love to mix purchase and lease numbers, then give you a payment without really showing how the numbers were arrived at.
Ask for the adjusted cap cost - if higher than the $53,500 you think it should be, find out what's been added.
How many miles per year are you looking for?
Looks like the MF is .00190 for the GX, this month.
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Sincerely appreciate your taking a look. It's a 36/15 lease. I think I am not making myself clear, sorry about that. I'd like to know how the dealer arrived to $5,770 in taxes as stated in Item 17 of the lease form. I think the number is wrong and they are sneaking it to put me on the hook for additional $$$ later ??? Could it be the case?
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Looking for MF and RV on 2016 GX 460 base model. 36mo/12k mi
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Are the MF and RV numbers different for the Premium trim?
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62% is the 2015 model residual for 36/10.
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Dealer is telling me 12k @ 65%
and MF of .0023
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Can you tell me the MF and RV for this month? Also, is it possible to negotiate the base MF lower depending on credit score and if I negotiate the price down to about 49500, how will that affect the lease? Will the RV be based on the original MSRP or the new negotiated number?
thanks much
Every $1000 off the selling price reduces the pre-tax lease payment about $28/mo.
Residual is always calculated against the bottom line number of the window sticker.
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this is on the base GX460
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Is this the true Tier 1 MF for February or is the dealer marking this up? Should I consider shopping another dealer as their are 5 dealers in my area? Thanks.
Absolutely suggest contacting the other dealers .. it only takes one to meet your numbers.
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I think I saw the MF around .00140-.00155 at some point last year.
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Thanks!
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2016 Lexus GX Premium
36/10 lease
MSRP $58,500
Purchase Price $53,250
$1,000 out of my pocket to take care of first payment/fees
I am in Tampa FL with tax at 7%
Thanks
Using your prices, I get $622/mo with tax included.
However, I suspect the adjusted cap cost is different than your purchase price - $1000 to start isn't enough to cover all the up front costs.
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Base model MSRP 51750
45month/10000 miles
6800 cash at signing (4500 security deposit + 2300(registration+acquisition+decument+tire tax & EPA fee+first payment))
Gross Capitalized cost 47860 + 1500 tax = 49360
Residual Value 31050.
Monthly payment $485.
Did I overpaid a lot?
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Can you tell me the current RV and MF on a 2016 GX 460 Base in Southern California please.
Thank you very much in advance.
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24/12
24/15
36/12
36/15
48/12
48/15
Any extra incentives? Im in FL
24/15: 71%
36/15: 63%
48/15: 54%
.00190 MF
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I leased a 2016 GX 460 with Navigation package, BSM, Parking assist,
Sticker: 54,820
Gross Cap Cost: 49,894.95
Cap Cost Reduction: 5,401.31 (I traded a leased 2013 Honda Pilot with nice Equity+negotiated)
Residual: 30,699.20
0.0018 MF
Down: First Month, Monthly $452 X 48 Months, 12K/year
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Would u mind to share the dealership you got ur lexus from?
Thanks
MSRP: $58,203
Sales Price: $55,998 (feel like I can get better)
Tax: $559.00 (in June Lexus had a 1% tax on the GX. That has change for July. Texas tax is 6.25%)
License, fee, reg.: $337.25
Acquisition fee: $700.00
Residual:66% 36month, 10k miles, MF .00265 (I'm sure I can get .00190 from another dealer)
Down payment: $1,300.00
Monthly: $771.62
I'm sure payment will change since I will have to pay 6.25% tax
If you pay all the fees and taxes up front and use the sales price as the adjusted cap cost, I get $668/mo using the .00190 MF; $739/mo with the .00265 MF
Ask the dealer what they are using for the adjusted cap cost - my guess is that the $1300 out of pocket isn't covering everything and the rest is being added into the selling price
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No 2017 info.
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GX 460 Base
GX 460 Premium
15K/36 months
15K/24 months
Also, when is the next expected change to the values?
Thanks!
Lexus MF expire on 8/1; residuals on 10/3
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MSRP $57,353. Cannot recall the cap but it was in the area of $53,500
$1,250 down including 1st monthly payment of $654.97 including $45.70 7.5% tax.
35 x $654.97 ($609.27 + $45.70) thereafter.
Went to the dealership, was presented with the paperwork and could not understand few things. I hope the pros here can shed the light.
On the LFS lease application in Section 17 they list total taxes I will pay. The amount was $5,770. Neither the salesperson nor the finance guy could answer where this amount came from. The origination taxes and fees were included in the down payment around $550. Total taxes I'd pay on monthly payments = 36 x $45.70 = $1,642
The sum does not come close to $5,770. Please explain it to us.
Also, there were some Rent Charges in the amount of ~$4K. What are they ? I do not recall having these rent charges when I leased other brand.
Since nobody could figure out what the aforementioned things were, I left to come tomorrow.
Infinite thanks in advance,
Rent charge is the lease term for interest - you'll pay that on every lease, though some forms use different names.
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Please and thank you
Ask for the adjusted cap cost - if higher than the $53,500 you think it should be, find out what's been added.
How many miles per year are you looking for?
Looks like the MF is .00190 for the GX, this month.
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