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Waxes and Polishes, Part II

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  • chirompchiromp Member Posts: 10
    I just finished my first and second coat of z2 and wow I am impresed! I think maybe a third coat on my 99 odyssey and that will be it, my wife says I like her car (the ody) better than her. So............after the kids went to bed.....I folded down that very easy third seat thru in a pillow and showed her! She still teases me though. I read past posts about zaino and I'm glad I got some(wax that is) and what a difference, now I'll wait and see how long it lasts here in so. calif. weather see ya
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    chiromp-

    Just don't throw that pillow on the hood or the trunk because you'll slide right off! LOL.....

    fastdriver
  • chirompchiromp Member Posts: 10
    that hood is smoother than a babies butt now, I will be carefull though
  • elimelim Member Posts: 8
    Has anyone ordered Zaino products through the Canadian distributor? Good, reliable service? How long for delivery once your order was placed?
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    elim-

    I've never ordered from him, but having dealt with Sal Zaino, I would venture to say that IF he wasn't good OR reliable, he wouldn't be working for Sal very long!!

    fastdriver
  • billgiffbillgiff Member Posts: 16
    I had mine delivered within the week, missed out on bulk specials, check bottom of his web site.
  • arjay1arjay1 Member Posts: 172
    I ordered the Z1, Z2, Z6, leather cleaner and leather conditioner today. This group has convinced me.
    I have also purchased Clay Magic and good towels to do the entire process.
    I can't wait to see my wife's teal Chrysler Town & Country and my green Land Rover after all this work is done.
    I will let the group know about my results.
  • tom3ktom3k Member Posts: 91
    I won't reiterate the whole thing from Odyssey XIV, but...

    Received my order of clay, Z-1 and Z-2 in less than a week from mailing my order.

    Washed, clayed, Z-1, then first coat of Z-2 the day I brought my '00 Odyssey home. Two more coats of Z-2 the next day. Even a week and two days of rain later, the shine is deep, gorgeous and swirl-free. Will probably put a couple more coats of Z-2 on before winter weather comes.

    Should I apply Z-1 when adding more coats, or is that just for prepping the paint for the first layer?

    Plan to order the Z-5 in the spring for my '90 Integra (and more Z-2 for the Odyssey, of course!).

    Great stuff.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    #374
    Yes, a trick from this topic is after the 6th coat, lay down z-1, then resume with z-2.
  • scottmsimpsonscottmsimpson Member Posts: 66
    Hi all. I did the Dawn clay Dawn Z1 Z2 thing today. Here are my observations and questions.
    1. Dawn didn't seem to strip the old wax, if I gage by the water still beading.
    2. The Clay really helped our 95 Villager! It really shined (and of course was smooth) after claying. I used Maquires clay. I bought it a few days before reading here earlier that it was no good. Seemed OK to me. I used Maquires Quick detailer as the lube.
    3. I got lots of lint from my brand new white towels. I assume washing them first would have been a good thing to do.
    4. I had a hard time seeing where I was putting the Z1 and Z2, especailly the Z1. I was doing it in my garage, with minimal lighting. Is it easier to see outside?
    5. The Z1 dried for about an hour before I topped with Z2. It wasn't really hazed, I wonder if it was a) dry enough and b) thick enough?
    6. Shine looked pretty good after removing the Z2.
    7. I do see a lot of very tiny scratches that weren't really evident before. The van hasn't been this clean is a while. Scratches are probably from drying with improper towels previously. I was wiping off the Z2 in the garage, but I got out my 500W halogen work light to be able to see what I was doing. That's pretty harsh lighting. I hope it won't look so bad in the daylight.
    8. I'll probably do another Z2 coat tomorrow.
    I should wipe it down with Z6 first, right?
    9. Sure is easy to use.
    If anyone can answer my questions by 1pm CDT Sunday Oct 10, email to simpson@mixcom.com, or post here.
  • ctah77ctah77 Member Posts: 1
    Just did the Dawn, Z1 and Z2 thing. Humid day but above 70 - Took four hours for Z2 to dry so you could remove it. Results were great and applying Z2 again. Does anybody feel it is really worth applying more than two coats of this stuff and when do you apply again since Zaino advises good for four to six months? What is your experience? CTAH@aol.com
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    I'm no expert but I thank ruking1 is correct about applying another layer of Z1 after 6 coats of Z2.

    Again, maybe you should consult Sal Zaino, but I would have continued to strip the wax via Dawn and clay. It may be that the beading of water was due to a good clear coat. I too have had the same problem when I first applied Z1/Z2. My long drying times were due, however, to low temperatures on a humid day. Under those conditions, leave the car alone overnight. If the Z2 layer still smears, its not dry. Since you already wiped the Z2 off, I'd apply another layer of Z2 (after using Z6). Those small scratches could be helped by using Z5. And yes, Zaino does tend to show them due to clear optical properties. They could have been caused by 'improper drying', automatic car wash brushes, abrasive waxes (ie: dealer) or dirty towels, etc. We've all made those mistakes. Again, try some Z5 and let us know what happens.
  • mlsulimlsuli Member Posts: 15
    I'll try to keep this short:

    Car -
    Black, 1999 Honda Accord EX V6
    Delivery date: 8/21/99

    History-
    been reading the posts from most of you and was somewhat hesitant. Decided to order the Z1, Z2, Z5 (dealer had done some light scratching during clean-up, naughty!), Z6.

    This weekend -
    Got to it! 70F, in complete shade. 50 minute wash with Dawn, and 15 minutes to COMPLETELY dry.
    Pulled it in the garage (wife was gone, this is an important step! ;). Anyway, I Z1'd, Z5 (for the marks), Z2, and Z6. One coat of each. After I was done, I pulled the car onto the drive (which now had FULL sun). I couldn't look at my car without sunglasses. You would not believe the shine! WOW! The car is 6 weeks old and even my wife noticed a dramatic difference! This stuff is incredible!

    Application Time -
    Wash 50 min (thorough!)
    Dry 15 min
    Z1 20 min apply, 30 min to dry
    Z5 20 min apply, 30 min to dry
    Z2 30 min apply, 30 min to dry
    Z6 15 min apply (wipe on, wipe off)

    Why so long? In the micro climates of No. CA we had some decent humidity that impacted my Z2 & Z5 times. Additionally, wifey came home and had to help with the groceries.

    I think the difficulty between Z products and other waxes is the initial first steps. As far as wiping on, drying, and wiping off, there's little difference (Zaino is somewhat easier, IMO).

    General -
    These CLAY products. I thought that was a load of
    crap. My car in general, is free of the impacts stated in some of the posts. That is until I got to my passenger-rear-quarter panel. The Z5 brought the environmental impacts to the surface. So in 6 months, when I go through this again, I will most definitely CLAY!

    Summary -
    As I was finishing up with the Z6, I threw my towel (100% cotton ;) on the car. Slid right off! Happened so fast, that it looked like the car was trying to whip me with the towel. The car is baby-butt smooth - (I've got two baby's at home so I have a direct comparison ;) - and the shine is unbelievable. Finally, the Black paint for my year has "blue" specks embedded in the finish. Before you'd have to look for the "Blue" now is just jumps out at you! Amazing.

    I'm glad I bought the product.

    Thanks Fastdriver et al, I appreciated the tip!

    mlsuli
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Great! I too have the Accord Coupe EX V6 ('98 in Emerald Green) and Zaino does a very good job of bring out the green on black sparkle effect. Your 'long'? drying times are not long at all. Mine were much longer on my initial attempt due to cool temperature (40's) and high humidity. In fact, your application times are quite fast. You must be in good shape. It generally takes my about 30 minutes to wash and about 30 minutes to dry. How did you dry your car? And I'll spend about 45 minutes applying Z2 and another 45 with Z6. Ok, so maybe I step back and look at the shine every 5 minutes.
  • mlsulimlsuli Member Posts: 15
    My LOE (level of effort) is directly correlated to the db level of my wife's voice as she asks "how much longer"! ;)

    In all actuality, she understands that this is a necessary part of owning a car. I mean, it was a total of about 4 hours (and yes I'm sore today!) but the results are worth it!

    We too get the cold temps and high humidity (in the form of fog) here in No. CA. So when we had a warm weekend I had to leverage it to get the Zaino on! I have to admit, the Z5 dried fast, but the Z2 was 'tacky' in spots (humidity + over application) but I wiped it off anyway. My Z6 went fast. I guess after reading the instructions you get with the product "don't let Z6 dry" I did my best to wipe up quickly. By the time I got to the Z6 stage it was well into the '80's. I will use a little more Z6 on the towel the next time I do my Z2. This was my first time so mark it up to a learning experience!

    Funny you have the Green color. I had a choice with the Accord EX V6: Black/Grey or Green/Tan. The only reason I went with Black/Grey is that my previous car was Green/Tan. I guess I just wanted a change! I like the [green] color all the same.

    I expect my wash times to decrease. I wanted to double "soap" it to get any of the wax off that the dealer put on. As far as stepping back to see the shine... man.... my car was effectively a mirror from the sun. I couldn't look at it! Amazing. My eldest son kept looking into the car to see his reflection as if it were a mirror! Now when I park it I look to see how the shine looks against other cars in the parking lot at work.

    Man, I need a life :)

    mlsuli
  • mlsulimlsuli Member Posts: 15
    Not to get too far off the subject... What's with those Honda rear light covers? They kept leaking water well through my Z2 stage! Do you have a problem with water collecting there when you was your car? I had problems with the lense covers on my 1980's Acuras. I would hope by now Honda has solved that one!
  • jbauerjbauer Member Posts: 39
    I have a 94 Diamante with what I will call "Porus Alum Wheels" The dirt and brake dust have embedded the aluminum to the point where regular washing does not remove the dirt/dust. I'm sure someone has probably answered this question in a previous posting but I didn't want to read 4 bizillion articles looking for the answer. If anyone can direct me to the right product(s) I would be most thankful.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    mlsuli-

    LOL........ You were a busy beaver! Trust me- it does get easier with time. I never clayed my car. You're right about the weather. Here in CT, the Fall is a great time to Z the car. I just came back from Keene, New Hampshire- no humidity, so I put some Z-6 on the car before I went to the Chrysler dealer there to get the oil changed.

    Speaking of the weather- a warning to all who live in the colder climes- DON'T let the Zaino freeze! Sal says that's not good. I put my ZAINO products in the basement for the winter.

    I took some new pics today in NH. I was hoping to have a nice colorful background with the Fall foliage, but it was not very vibrant this year. I'll see what the pics look like. If they came out good, I'll post them so that you can see what a 16 month old Candy Apple Red 300M looks like using ZAINO without claying.

    fastdriver
  • drscopemdrscopem Member Posts: 83
    Hi:
    The question with wheels is : are they clearcoated (i.e., painted) or not. If they are painted treat them like paint. If not, then treat them like uncoated metal(with metal polish). Most people have stock clear coated wheels.
    I would suggest you go to www.carcareonline.com. Larry Reynolds has some excellent how to articles for the care of wheels and how to repair damaged wheels. If you still have questions, give him a call.
    Good luck.
  • booger8booger8 Member Posts: 1
    I have just started looking at this discussion group and have already found lots of good information. Unfortunately, I do not have time to start at the beginning and read all the way through. I have a '00 Odyssey EX (6 days old) and a 96 Accord EX that I would like to give the Zaino treatment to. Could someone post a quick checklist of what I would need to order so I can get the order in today? I will go back later and catch up on techniques proper layering of the products (unless someone can provide a link to a previous post that will help me out!)

    I have read the info on the Zaino website and I have a few questions. Will the clay treatment get all of the dead bugs off of the Accord or tis there some other product to use? Is it OK to use the Z-12 glass polish on windows that have been tinted? Realistically, how many coats of Z-2 should I apply to the new Odyssey? For the '96 Accord, I have one long shallow scratch on a door and a deep 1/8" wide and 1" long scratch on the trunk. Is there anything I can do about them?

    I'm sorry to be taking right now and not giving but my wife and I are having a baby in two days so things are getting hectic. I promise that once I apply the treatment (in 2 or 3 weeks) I will post my results. In case anyone wants to provide region-specific advice I live 50 miles South of Houston (hot, humid, big skeeters).

    thanks,
    booger
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Yeah, the wife and I had a little deal. I could pick the car and she could pick the colors. And we both did very well. 'Love the green and tan combination. As per the water problem, I too keep having water dripping in various places at the rear of the car even half an hour after drying. 'Just as I'm applying Z2 to that area. I'm not sure its from the plastic lense covers or the trunk. But its not a plus. Now I keep an extra towel around to sop up any excess water which has the insulting notion of appearing during Z application time.

    re: Dirt embedded in wheels. I'd try claying the metal wheels. Erazer makes a wonderful "yellow" clay which can stand up to brake dust on wheels. And then protect them with a polymer.

    fastdriver: Scan the pictures and put them on the forum. I too have to get some more Z stuff on the car before winter arrives. I live in NYC and have family in CT (Danbury and Southbury) and Otis, MA. I first applied Zaino up in Otis where unfortunately, the temperatures were low (just above 32 to mid 40's). 'Made all the classic mistakes and I'm still a Zaino fan.
  • mlsulimlsuli Member Posts: 15
    -fastdriver
    I'm going to have to get a digital camera. Here again, I've got to consider the wife factor. Maybe I can use the kids as an excuse? Then again, with all the light reflecting from my car after the Zaino, the picture would probably be a blur anyway! :)

    Additionally, I couldn't imagine applying Zaino in the NE winters. I lived in Dallas for 3 years and applying something like that during <20 degrees would not be advisable! You guys sure do have the wonderful "falls" though....

    -pblevine
    A relief and a disappointment that you have the same water issue as I. My 1988 Integra would always collect water vapor in the lenses (front and back) to the point where the metal rusted and the headlights had to be replaced. Although 11 model years later, that problem - I hope - won't resurface in this model Honda.

    -jbauer
    The wheels on the 98,99,00 Honda Accord EX V6's have a "rough" surface between the spokes. Take the advise above (Clearcoated vs. exposed metal). Mine have some sort of coating on them so I: Cleaned with car soap, used Zanio products Z6 to clean after the soaping then used Z2 to wax and Z6 as a finisher. They look great! Since the car is 6 weeks old, I did not have the "baked" on dust like you described. A good soap I would think would take the dust off the wheels?

    mlsuli
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    To all-

    Just got a new SONY digital camera at work today! It's great! NO wires- just a regular floppy disc goes in the camera. When it gets full, you just put it in your computer and it works. It saves the pics in JPEG format. They have to be PC discs, but they work on my MACS! Took it home to test it out a little and did take some pics of the 300M to show you what it looks like today after the trip back to CT from Keene, New Hampshire this weekend! I think it looks great. The wheels are gleaming and I didn't even clean them! The car is 16 months old now.

    I have to get some sleep now, but I will TRY to put them on a separate webpage for all to see tomorrow.

    fastdriver
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,120
    I'll try to put this as succinctly as possible. Fastdriver, drscopem and pblevine are also good sources for info.

    First of all, clay (clay magic is what i use) will remove the bug guts or any aother contaminants that may be in your paint.

    I like 3M glass cleaner. I've also used vinegar and water (1:4 ratio, respectively) with good results.

    Z2 can be used up to 5-6 coats without having to re-apply Z1. I've found that 4 coats are about the limit for increasing the shine. After that, I have reached the point of diminishing returns. A good Z6 application brings back the shine "right now" after washing and isn't nearly as time consuming.

    Sounds like a big scratch, but you don't mention how deep it is. If your fingernail can feel it, then you are looking at using some sort of abrasive to minimize it (try 3M foam pad). If not, 3-4 coats of Z5 should do the trick.

    Let us know how you make out and good luck with that new baby (won't have much time for Zaino-ing after the birth).
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • jbauerjbauer Member Posts: 39
    For those of you using a water/vinegar solution to clean ANY parts of your vehicle....BE CAREFUL! Vinegar is a mild form of muratic (sp?) acid and could harm clear coats, vinyls, etc. I have not had any experiences myself but I do know that vinegar is used to eat thru the grease build up on the floors of McD's restaurants, clean lime from coffee makers, etc. Just be careful, acids and beautiful finishes don't mix well.
  • wilcoxwilcox Member Posts: 582
    Before I go buy some, can you tell me what these two products smell like...? Do they smell like...say...nu finish, or carnaba stuff?? Is there any mineral spirits in it?
    I guess I'm thinking about paint condition several years from now. How long have these products been around?
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Some people say that Zaino's Z6 smells like bubble gum. Others say its more like roses. But I think its more like Z2. Don't worry, they smell good. But don't drink this stuff - spirits are not included!
  • edwinfongedwinfong Member Posts: 25
    I've just ordered the Zaino for my new white
    Odyssey. Do I use it on the black door handles,
    mirrors, and trim as well as the rest of the body
    or do I use something else, any recomendations?
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    #395

    I would! But there are other Zaino products also.
  • tom3ktom3k Member Posts: 91
    The stray Z-2 that touched the handles and trim did NOT buff off, so I clened them with Meguiar's tire gel (worked nicely). I still haven't found anything non alcohol-based to use on the flat-black painted parts, so I haven't covered them yet.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    I'm still experimenting with the new Sony digital camera that I got at work. It uses PC disks which saves the pics in JPEG form. I use those disks in my Power Mac whick doesn't ALWAYS make them show up as JPEG's, but uses QuickTime's picture viewer to open them. At any rate, I have managed to convert them to regular JPEG so that I could upload them to Geocities.

    I have more pics to post, but want to put them on another page because they are so large. No time lately to do anything. I also managed to screw up my pages with those damn pop-up ads! I KNEW that when Yahoo took over Geocities something would get messed up. Unless you pay, ALL pages now have pop-up ads unless you use the latest super-duper browsers to view the webpages!

    Anyway, this is what the car looks like 16 months after I bought it. These pics were taken after I got back from NH to CT on Monday night. Don't you think the ZAINO held up okay? NO bugs on the front. Look at that shine.

    Enjoy-
    http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/7501/oct991.html

    Just click those pop-up ads off the screen!

    fastdriver
  • wilcoxwilcox Member Posts: 582
    no wonder your so proud of your 300M fastdriver. Thanks..
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    You have done well, pilgrim! Great pictures, and even more importantly, great shine on that car. My car is also about a year old, and your shine is better. That's because I park mine in a garage that specializes in producing little scratches. I've got one that requires painting now.

    Anyway, the first two of your pictures and the last one are wonderful examples of what Zaino can do. How many coats of Z2 do these pictures represent? And did you say these were taken after a trip and before washing (or Z6'ing)?
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    wilcox-

    Thanks. Maybe I'll do the rest now before I go out. I have to explain a few of the pics- the Dunkin Donuts cup!! LOL....

    pblevine-

    My car is outside all day and in the garage at night. I also have a few scratches that are in the weirdest places. I can't even explain what they look like. Actually, I can run outside now and take some more pics! LOL...

    I stopped counting how many coats. Probably a LITTLE less then 20. I have used Z-5 a few times and Z-2 and Z-6 more often. I have ONLY used Z-1 TWICE. Sal says to use Z-1 about every 10 coats of Z-2/Z-5. Yes, this is what the car looked like on Tuesday afternoon after driving home from Keene, NH to CT. I did NOT wash the car to take these pics. The wheels were/are dirty, but they don't look it- do they?

    Going to see if I can capture those scratches right now. Will try to get the rest of the pics up in a little while.

    fastdriver
    http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/7501/oct991.html
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    Okay- I added pics of the 3 scratches- one is near the black trim on the passenger back door. The other is on the window pillar on the passenger front door and the third is near the gas tank. It was kind of hard to get some good pics because of the shine! LOL... Actually, they look WORSE in the pics then they do in person.

    They are the last three pics on the page. Link in message 401 above.

    fastdriver
  • ssonnetssonnet Member Posts: 27
    Amazing shine.

    How many months have passed between your first coat and your 20th coat?
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    ssonnet-

    I got my 300 on June 17, 1998. Signed up for Edmunds TOWN HALL on June 29, 1998- according to the info at the top of the User Agreement page here. Read about ZAINO for a few months before placing my first order on August 5, 1998- just checked my checkbook. So, I've been using ZAINO for 14 months now.

    I have never clayed my car. I see/feel no imperfections that would cause me to do this right now. My finish is smooth. Like I've said before, once you get the hang of it, Z'ing the car when you have a few free minutes is nothing at all. I do NOT spend hours doing it. I am not a slave to my car. I do like a clean, shiny, wet-looking car, but I don't spend all day doing it. Right now, in CT anyway, the weather is perfect for Z'ing. Several weeks ago I timed myself to see how long it took to put on Z-2 and wipe it off. Took me 45 minutes from start to finish. I don't call that time-consuming at all.

    Today looks like a great day to put on some Z-5/Z-6 before the rain gets here from FL! ;-))

    fastdriver
  • chirompchiromp Member Posts: 10
    fastdriver...you're right about how easy it is to use zaino. I did Z1 and have two coats of Z2 and my 99 odyssey looks great! I don't know if a third coat will make a difference in shine, what's your experience? I use Z6 every other day to keep it looking shiny and it usually takes me 3-4 minutes to wipe it down. I live in so calif and the dust is always around because it never rains here!! Plus, our odyssey is garaged most of the day. What surprised me is how long the zaino products last, you think they won't go far but they do.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    chiromp-

    Yes, a 3rd coat, a 4th coat, a 5th coat etc. WILL make a difference. At least it did on my 300M! I have also found that Z-6 on the TV and computer screens is GREAT for keeping DUST and cigarette ashes from sticking to the screen! I did a TV and 6 computers at work a few weeks ago and they are still dust free! The computers are located where hundreds of people have been in and out of this carpeted room!

    You can take a look at some current pics of my car at http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/7501/oct991.html to check out the shine, but I wouldn't do it just yet because today geocities is acting like WE- VERY slow! I was trying to add more pics and work on the webpage, but I can't get anything done. The page shows up with broken image icons because of its slowness. Think I'll just go outside and vacuum the car and put on some Z-5/Z-6 that I was going to do HOURS ago, but haven't left this computer yet! ;-))

    fastdriver
  • guitarzanguitarzan Member Posts: 873
    Someone brought up a good point: Don't let your expensive waxes freeze. For that matter, put all of your car care products in a box, so that you can bring the whole bunch in easily when the weather changes. I've lost more good stuff from weather deterioration.

    Even hot weather can cut the life of your chemicals. Anything that says "store in cool area" would be as unhappy in an 80-90 degree garage as in 30 degree weather.

    guitarzan
    Community Leader/Vans Conference
  • scruplekscruplek Member Posts: 33
    Boy my Z6 is going fast. Three coats of Z2 on my Odyssey plus washes in between. Maybe I am using too much. By the time I get half way around the van, the rag is moist, so I just quit spraying any additional Z6 and just wipe with the dampened rag. Anyone else do this? Or should I keep spraying directly on the surface and wipe with a dry towel. I would say 3/4 of my bottle is already gone. I was hoping it would last longer.

    Where can you get 3M glass cleaner or Sprayways glass cleaner?

    Got my first dent :( Looks like they could pop it out with one of those suction things. Is it safe to have that done? The paint was scratched too, but the Z2 covered it right up. Just see the quarter size dent now. Should I get them to pop it out?
  • chirompchiromp Member Posts: 10
    I think you are using to much Z6. I have an odyssey and i start buy sraying a little on the hood, quick spray over the hood, wipe and then i spray just a little on the towel, and i mean a little and I proceed to do the entire van ( I spray the towel for a section of the van. I have Used Z6 six times now and i have used about 1/4 or less. Spray a little and it will go a long way.
    Light sprays and rub a lot.
    good luck, mitch
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    I cannot see the scratches. My only objection is the Duncan Donuts cup. They make lousy coffee!

    On Z6: a little goes a really long way. One little spray per panel seems to do the job for me.
    And the smell, ahh.
  • mlsulimlsuli Member Posts: 15
    I Z'd my wife's Explorer this weekend. Unlike my Honda, the Explorer is lighter color - champagne. Although lighter in color, the Z really worked wonders. Truck looks new again (approx. 20 months old). One weird phenomenon occurred: As I was applying Z1 (car's never been Z'd before) and Z2. Instead of 'hazing' the paint to be wiped off the Z2 seemed to just disappear like it was evaporating? I continued the process as if the Z2 had dried and the shine came out great. Just never seen a polish disappear like that before?

    I don't know if it makes a difference, but the humidity level here in No. CA was about 10% (hence the little fires that have been going on). Wonder if the humidity made the difference?

    Anybody have a similar experience?
  • chirompchiromp Member Posts: 10
    zaino is the way to go
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Yep, I was Z'ing a small spot (to protect a scratch) under low humidity conditions, and the Z2 seemed to disappear. But 5 minutes later, there was a slight haze which I wiped off for a good shine. In your case, was the Z1 dry? And did you pre-lub your applicator with a little Z6?
  • mlsulimlsuli Member Posts: 15
    Must have been the humidity. So dry that my nose practically was bleeding from just breathing! Z1 was dry, (Z2'd 15+ from Z1'ing) and use very little Z6 on the applicator.

    Like the new verb structure (Z2'd, Z1'ing)?

    Maybe we're a little obsessive? :P

    -mlsuli
  • charlesfcharlesf Member Posts: 28
    You mean like Z,ing you later? :)
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    Just ZAY-NO to drugs! LOL......


    Have my new pics pretty well set up- 6 pages. Sorry about the pop-up ads! Geocities changed something. Still trying to figure out HOW to get rid of them without paying!

    fastdriver
    http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/7501/oct991.html
  • lmvinelmvine Member Posts: 2
    Finish First or Zaino? Any opinions with data? DanL
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