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Just kidding! I don't get upset when a big rig takes a ramp slower than molasses, but when a BMW does it; that's just blood pressure inducing.
http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=DLR_3&vin=1C6RR7FG9GS283370
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I truly believe that the vast majority of the driving public doesn't know how to properly turn a car, judging by the number of people who slow down to a near stop, swing wide and then take the turn to wide.
Now speaking of tight corners here are some so tight you can actually drive straight to get through them, provided there is no oncoming traffic.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
One funny thing that I "fixed" by accident was my discovery that the voice recognition system had been set to accept commands in English: UK rather than English: US- that solved a big problem with the car not understanding the owner's voice commands.
For some reason the car still has wheel mounted shift paddles and launch control- features that might be used by 0.005% of G12 owners(Alpina B7 owners excepted).
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Now speaking of tight corners here are some so tight you can actually drive straight to get through them, provided there is no oncoming traffic.
That's the first thing I thought when I saw that picture.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Every once in a great while, acting juvenile, where some Civic or some such car, with the "blat" can as an exhaust tries to beat me off the line, I'll shift manually with the paddles so I can go on about my business with an heir of superiority.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I know someone else who doesn't use the paddles either and I told this story before more than a year ago. I'm surprised I found it:
I think I told part of this story when I did the test drive before signing on the line for Mrs. j’s 2012 Subie Legacy Limited 6 cylinder in November 2011. Son #1 went with us to Columbus where we got the car.
Mrs. j: What are those silver things on the steering wheel?
Son #1: Don’t worry about those. They’re for when Dad and I drive the car. You just put it in Drive like any other car you’ve had and you’ll be just fine.
Mrs. j : Just curious, but they must be there for a reason.
That’s the part I think I told. Now fast forward to after she drove the car for a week or two when Son #1 came over to the house with his family for dinner one Sunday.
Mrs. j: OK, I ask this before, maybe I can get an answer this time. What do those silver things do that are on the steering wheel of my car?
Son #1: I guess it is better to show you rather than try to explain it. Get your coat and we’ll go for a ride. Dad can come along if he wants to.
We get to the car in the drive way and my son says, “I’ll drive. You get in the passenger’s seat and Dad will sit in the back”. When we are in the car, he says, “see the + sign on this paddle, that’s for up- shifting. You probably won’t use this paddle very much because of the way the transmission operates in this car. See the – sign on this paddle, that’s for down-shifting. Down-shifting is for when you want the car to go into a lower gear, like when you’re passing someone. It does the same thing as when you step down on the gas pedal a little harder for when you want the car to get up to speed quicker. When you use this paddle you don’t have to push on the gas pedal, you just pull on the paddle. Let’s go and I’ll show you. It’s very simple”. We get out on a clear road and he goes through the demonstration mode several times. Then he says:
Son #1: See, that’s all there is to it.
Mrs. j: And you expect me to play with those things when I’m driving? I’ll just leave it in Drive like you said before. That’s the way I have always driven, so I’m not going to change how I drive a car now. You guys can play with them all you want. Let’s go home so I can get dinner ready.
Both my Son and I got this HUH look on our faces and she said again, “did you really think I was going to use those things”? More HUH looks and we went home for dinner.
Now that was a wasted test drive.
Maybe Isell would call her a stroke and I wouldn’t blame him.
Like I said, the above is an old post that I found, but it's back on topic again.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Also, I can't image anything going wrong with the "Summon" feature either! LOL
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2016/07/14/0714-Consumer-Reports-says-Tesla-should-drop-Autopilot-name.html
The influential magazine said Tesla should drop the Autopilot name and disconnect the automatic steering system until it's updated to make sure a driver's hands stay on the wheel at all times. The system currently warns drivers after a few minutes of their hands being off the wheel.
In an e-mail, a Tesla spokeswoman said the company has no plans to change the name, and that data it collects show drivers who use Autopilot are safer than those who don't.
In February, Consumer Reports urged Tesla to change a feature within Autopilot known as Summon, which lets owners start cars and move them out of a garage or parking spot automatically using a key fob or a smartphone. The magazine found that users couldn't stop the cars right away if they pressed the wrong button on the key fob. It also found that the cars kept moving when the smartphone app was closed. Tesla responded with a software update that limited the Summon feature to smartphones and required the user to keep a finger on the phone screen when the car was being summoned.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
My sister's CrossTrek has paddles. A while back she stopped by the dealer and told the service writer her car was making a funny noise. Seems she was driving around in "second" gear and the funny noise was the engine revs.
Two Men Fall Down Cliff
I'm thinking they need to rename it Darwin Rules!
Fast forward to today. I was watching a NOVA special on how bats navigate, although they are completely blind. They do it entirely by sonar, and they are good at it because they use sonar not only to navigate but to find food as well.
With that observation, I have been thinking -- wouldn't it be nice to equip a blind driver with a sonar-based helmet coupled with the autopilot technology to make autonomous driving possible? Just a thought, I am no science guy, but perhaps someone might want to say a little more about this topic.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I have, occasionally, just for the fun of it.
My E-GT has the shifter that I can move into "manual" mode, the move it backwards or forwards to change gears. Again, not something that gets used all that often.
However, I am seriously considering a stick shift for my next car, when the lease is up in a few months.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
You wanted cheap. That's about as low as it goes to drive a brand new car.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I don't think encouraging Telsa to ditch Autopilot is being a luddite at all. Quite the contrary. Historically, when a machine becomes overly complex for what it is, then people will default to a simpler technology.
Think steam power to gas engine (ever watch Jay Leno fire up a steam car? You had to be an engineer!)
The whole idea of electric cars in the 21st century is that they would supercede today's wildly complex gasoline engines.
So IMO Tesla is working backwards.
C&D has a good article on this subject.
Could have happened to anyone, really. Carelessness all around with dire consequences.
Another reason we won't be seeing "self-driving" cars anytime soon.
Once I bought my 2008 bmw 328 manual, I thought about that. Odds are it won't happen, but, if it does, you will be sorry.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
If you can't see, as a driver (for whatever reason, be it the sunshine or something else), do us all a favor, and don't keep moving forward like an imbecile. The guy that hit my S4 admitted he didn't see me and couldn't see traffic so he pulled "up further."
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
So yes it can and does make a difference.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
the Audi Driving Experience where they let you drive R8's S5's and such have some manuals in the fleet, and rather than have people mis-shift they instructed all drivers to use 3rd gear and just bounce off the rev limiter over and over on the straights.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
As you know my in-laws have been looking to lease a replacement for the Jeep that their daughter blew up. I had started to offer advice when my wife told me to mind my own business so I dropped the whole thing. Then last night SIL calls and wants to borrow one of my cars to go looking. No problem but I mention a few things she might want to watch out for like Cap Cost, residuals, acquisition and termination fees and money factors. There's a silence on the line and then "why don't you come with us?".
OK, so after clearing it with the boss I head out to where they're looking. When I got there they were already preparing to test drive a Dodge Dart which surprised me since I thought they wanted to replace their Jeep. I let them go on the test not wanting to influence their decision.
They decide they like the car and start to discuss price. The salesman comes out with a "4 square" sheet and says this base model Dart lease is $388/mo 3 years 12k miles per year with $1500 upfront. I almost fell out of the chair. I said that crazy, what's the Cap Cost?
He says 38% which doesn't answer my question so I said "what's the sticker? What are the incentives?" He acts like I'm speaking a foreign language but finally says: "$20,000 with $2,000 incentive which equals $18,000.
The sleazeman (excuse me salesman) then says "these Darts don't lease well, why don't you buy?" and goes into a pitch for $295/mo. For 75-84 months. I ask my relatives if they want to pay for 7 years on a car that loses 2/3 of it's value in 3 years. The salesman jumps in with "oh most people don't keep them, they trade after 3-4 years". I respond that would result in them rolling over negative equity into the next car and he said "don't worry we'll take good care of you then".
We are now so deep into the BS that I want to grab them and run but I promised my wife I wouldn't "try to take charge of everything like you usually do". Instead I try to prod them into going home and "thinking" about it since it's obvious their being hustled.
Unfortunately, my relatives were determined to leave with something, even a bad deal, and proceeded to write the book on how to not buy a car. "Will you give us something for our old car?" Asks the SIL. "It doesn't run and it was a bad car from the start". "We really, really need a car right now" chimes in the BIL. They shake hands. On $270/month with a dealer installed leather interior which I got them a 35% discount. Inside my head I'm screaming Nooooooooo!
I beg off before I have to witness the slaughter in F&I and get the heck out of there. I have no idea what interest they'll be paying but I'll suggest they later try to refi at their credit union for a shorter term. They'll probably ignore me.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2018 430i Gran Coupe
My Eclipse in manual mode (stick version of paddles) would hold 1st gear right up to the rev limiter and let you bounce off it all you wanted. I liked that better than the paddles on the Mustang which I have used exactly once.
When I want to get frisky now I just drop it in sports mode and it hold the revs in the sweet spot.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Currently own: 2017 BMW M4, 2011 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X Used to own: 2008 VW R32, 1998 Jeep Cherokee Sport, 1987 BMW 325IS