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2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Seems like they ran out of money or something.
The seat material looks cheap and the center stack controls are from the 2016 Fusion.
My 2017 SE has a completely different center stack layout.
Like Fintail, I checked the inventory of a local Benz dealer. They have 28 E class listed. 26 E300's and 2 E400 coupes. I thought maybe they are holding back the 6 cylinder models because they are selling so many CUV/SUV's and are trying to keep their CAFE numbers up.
The auto-steer is intended only to keep the car equidistant between the two lane stripes without the driver having to manually adjust the steering input needed to accomplish that. It requires bright road striping on both sides of the car to enable the function. On my trip to and from Northern Florida last week, it only worked effectively at speeds under 75 mph, and even at those speeds, the brightness of the lane striping was not very visible in some stretches causing it to disengage intermittently.
Autonomous cars, IMHO, are a long way off from being safe on high speed interstates or anywhere else, for that matter.
The one system that I really liked was the pop-up alert suggesting a stop for a rest. If you respond to the "take a rest" option, it pulls up the NAV and suggests optional places to stop and will use GPS to get you there once selected. I used it on the way back and really appreciated it.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
The 4 is supposed to have all the power one needs, in the review I read it was a little noisier when idling with the window down. The 2017 E 300’s official 0 to 100 km/h time of 6.3 seconds shaves more than a second off the 2016 E 300’s time. Still, the 3.5L V6 is a smoother engine overall and some E-Class owners may not wish to ‘downgrade’ to a four The E400 6 cylinder does 0 to 60 in 5.3 seconds. I don't need that kind of power, but I like an engine that has the refinement to do that.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
Every year on the trip back north we hit the highway reconstruction around Cincinnati. I-75 has 3 lanes north at this point, and they twist and turn with a cement barrier on the left and right, with pylons in places. Wide trucks trying to twist and turn with cars....not much room for even small errors. Will that auto-steering keep the car in the lanes? There are markings.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
If this weren't so comical, I would be livid. It's their alternative truth!
I told them they can do whatever it is they want. I'm reporting to the Ohio Attorney General (as @driver100 originally suggested) and will retain a lawyer. Don't care if I have to come out of pocket for one. This is ridiculous.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
There's an easy hack for the MB steering guidance - attach a water/pop bottle (with contents) to the steering wheel rim. The weight fools the car. As you probably recall, MB has also used "attention assist" for some time, with a message in the instrument cluster suggesting that the driver take a break, when the car senses it is being driven erratically.
There's a huge list of obstacles that will prevent fully autonomous vehicles anytime in the near future. For now, a few people just get to play with fun toys.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Pros: The engine is a gem, great color combo, good styling, balanced ride, 4Matic performed well in the single snow day we've had since, good mileage, high build quality. The prior V6 was smooth and powerful, but maybe almost too much so. I like the noise and gentle purr of the diesel.
Cons: payment
Obviously you are upset, GG - I sure would be! I would only suggest that you take a 24 hour time out and revisit the issue then.
Do you have your car back yet after the suspension issue? If so, is it running OK? If not, when are you expecting to have your car back?
Lawyers are not cheap, as you know. The Attorney General route will take a long time. It is very obvious that Cadillac is going to fight this. They have many more resources than you do - legally and financially.
After the 24 hour time out, I think you will see this differently. Take the car to your nearest dealer - the one where you decided to buy a new car - and trade it in on something you want. I know you will never buy another Cadillac again so just move on. It's not healthy to get all stressed about this situation any longer. Chalk this all up to a learning experience the hard way and start enjoying a new car.
Cadillac and its consumer relations department don't deserve one more minute of your time or attention. Just my opinion, GG. I truly believe you've been through the ringer and it's time to cut them loose.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
"Tight situations"?
Yep, that's where "driving dynamics" is your friend.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Alternate truth explains it perfectly.
When does it become a lemon and not a recall....once the car blows up?
The AG's office should get some kind of response or they aren't upholding their own laws. I'd go public....TV stations would love to take this one on. I can just see Scott Pelley ariving at the dealers office.....Hi, I am from 60 Minutes and I hear you have a new CTS under warranty that has been sitting in your service bay for almost 2 months now, waiting for the manufacturer to design and install a wiring harness so this customer can drive around in his new car, without it self combusting! :@
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Do you have your car back yet after the suspension issue? If so, is it running OK? If not, when are you expecting to have your car back?
Lawyers are not cheap, as you know. The Attorney General route will take a long time. It is very obvious that Cadillac is going to fight this. They have many more resources than you do - legally and financially.
After the 24 hour time out, I think you will see this differently. Take the car to your nearest dealer - the one where you decided to buy a new car - and trade it in on something you want. I know you will never buy another Cadillac again so just move on. It's not healthy to get all stressed about this situation any longer. Chalk this all up to a learning experience the hard way and start enjoying a new car.
Cadillac and its consumer relations department don't deserve one more minute of your time or attention. Just my opinion, GG. I truly believe you've been through the ringer and it's time to cut them loose.
Mike....the dealership still has the car. Something tells me it's going to be another "major" issue with it as they've had it since mid last week.
I'm in a state of disbelief. I'd like to know what they consider defective materials and workmanship really are.
I'll chalk it up.....as soon as I get an arbitration hearing, or legal representation.
Berri....you're right. They are their own worst enemy.
I understand fully and I don't think I could let the car steer itself, or change lanes by itself, or park itself. I think it is nice if for some reason you miss something for whatever reason......you have the option of using these new devices.
One night I did have to parallel park, I was very tired, and I used the self park feature. I used it twice in 2 years...but, it was nice to have as a back up device (pun intended).
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
I could just see them giving a commercial teaser, "local luxury car owner's car in the dealer's service bay for two mos., undrivable because of it being a fire hazard due to manufacturer's design flaw, yet the company says it's not faulty.....details at 10."
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
That might be the reason they have kept you in a loaner...they know they can call it a recall issue. So how long can they keep a car under recall notice? I am not a lawyer but if you buy a $60k car you should be able to drive it and expect it can be repaired in a reasonable amount of time.
I guess you can go on a TV show or tell your story to the local paper and they have to keep you in a rental car. You could see if they have a low mileage Honda or Avalon on their lot that you could swap for....to remain silent.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
This is where we diverge. The recall was issued and GG's car was brought in at their request. It was apparently running fine; I don't recall any mention of a complaint. They put him in a CT6 and said they would keep him posted. That doesn't seem to be an unreasonable response. Whatever happened last week with putting him back in his car with whatever unresolved issues they created is another matter, but that is with the dealer.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
This is where we diverge. The recall was issued and GG's car was brought in at their request. It was apparently running fine; I don't recall any mention of a complaint. They put him in a CT6 and said they would keep him posted. That doesn't seem to be an unreasonable response. Whatever happened last week with putting him back in his car with whatever unresolved issues they created is another matter, but that is with the dealer.
This is where we diverge even further. Even though the car may not qualify under the Lemon Law there is probably something in law (I watch a lot of Hot Bench) that says when you buy a product you assume you will get some kind of normal use from it. This isn't even close to normal use. When his warranty is completely over they will have no responsibility to fix his faulty (I avoided the word lemon) car.
The Lemon Law has a huge fault in it....12 months is a very short time limit for a car to be declared a lemon. By the time they fix it up a few times and give you some story the car is over the limit. A car isn't a $50 CD Player, it should be fixed within a reasonable time. If my new E400 had a similar problem I would call it a lemon too.............
Maybe a bumper decal
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I'm through with Cadillac....regardless of what they do. I'll go to any media source who will listen. I have pics of the damage the faulty wiring caused.
Thx!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
As for counting on a state or county attorney general; realistically auto dealerships pay lots of taxes and often have strong lobby organizations. May or may not come into play on whether they'll pursue your matter and how hard.
Don't mean to be a cynic, but...
I guess if you pursue these approaches, well an old admin officer I dealt with years back sometimes used the saying "don't bet on it" (i.e. don't make it your only approach or your ace card).
What happens when the occasional malcontent figures out how to confuse or blind a passing self driver so that it goes out of control?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Not to mention the cars able to be hacked literally, and maybe more importantly, what will happen to revenue-based traffic enforcement when cars are programmed to obey the law. Open up your wallet!
Even though the run of defective cars was limited, there must be other owners who got the recall and I assume went through the same outrage. Could be hundreds. Isn't recall information available during legal discovery? He might be able to work this into a class action suit.
If they pulled this nonsense with many buyers I bet any TV station would run with it.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
The seats being only available in dark gray, and being suede and leather, made me not interested. I'm not a suede seat guy.
I took my Titanium out tonight and turned off the radio to listen to the squeeks and rattles. The only thing I heard was engine and tires. Couldn't find much hard plastic either except for the console top.
2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport
jmonroe, is the Chick-Fil-A you mention the one near Robinson Town Centre? When I go to our Pittsburgh office, that's the one I eat at.
OF...I've wondered that myself...certainly, I can't be one of one with this issue. Others have to be in the same boat. I went over to one of the Cadillac forums, and not one mention of the issue, though. Maybe those affected don't frequent that forum.
Still, putting something out there to sniff out others with the same issue should turn up something.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
He was pretty upset. The cops asked him if he was drinking or texting.
The insurance company totalled (pictured below)
He went looking at a new 2017 Escape and liked it. Then he went to the Subaru Dealer and is picking up a 2017 Outback 2.5i Limited on Thursday. He wants to buy (4 years @ 0% financing). I told him to look into leasing because of the Outback's high residual.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD