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2017 Lincoln MKC Lease Questions

tedcars476tedcars476 Member Posts: 103
edited February 2017 in Lincoln
Hello!

I see the 2017 MKCs are starting to arrive at dealers, do you have the residual and maybe the MF for 36/10k and 36/12k for a 2017 MKC Reserve 2.3L AWD?

Thanks!
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376

    Hello!

    I see the 2017 MKCs are starting to arrive at dealers, do you have the residual and maybe the MF for 36/10k and 36/12k for a 2017 MKC Reserve 2.3L AWD?

    Thanks!

    48% / 47%. No MF info.

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  • tedcars476tedcars476 Member Posts: 103
    Michaell said:

    Hello!

    I see the 2017 MKCs are starting to arrive at dealers, do you have the residual and maybe the MF for 36/10k and 36/12k for a 2017 MKC Reserve 2.3L AWD?

    Thanks!

    48% / 47%. No MF info.
    Do you have the latest June numbers for the 2016 and 2017 MKC Reserve AWD 36/12k?

    Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,246

    Michaell said:

    Hello!

    I see the 2017 MKCs are starting to arrive at dealers, do you have the residual and maybe the MF for 36/10k and 36/12k for a 2017 MKC Reserve 2.3L AWD?

    Thanks!

    48% / 47%. No MF info.
    Do you have the latest June numbers for the 2016 and 2017 MKC Reserve AWD 36/12k?

    Thank you!
    No money factor information.

    2017: 59% residual
    2016: 56% residual

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  • aoreilly88aoreilly88 Member Posts: 32
    Resid for MKC 36/10k all 3 trims. If you dont have MF info does that mean it is standard this month? If so what is that usually? Thanks alot.
  • aoreilly88aoreilly88 Member Posts: 32
    2016 and 2017 please
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376

    2016 and 2017 please

    Resid for MKC 36/10k all 3 trims. If you dont have MF info does that mean it is standard this month? If so what is that usually? Thanks alot.

    2016 residual ranges from 53% to 57%, depending on trim and FWD/AWD.

    2017 residual is 56%-60%

    Cannot assume that a lack of MF info implies that the standard MF of about 5-6% is in play. Just means we don't have the information.

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  • floridagator1floridagator1 Member Posts: 68
    @Michaell @kyfdx 2017 MKC Reserve- 36months or 39/15k (Residual and MF) plus any Incentives?
    Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,246

    @Michaell @kyfdx 2017 MKC Reserve- 36months or 39/15k (Residual and MF) plus any Incentives?
    Thank you.

    We only have residuals. 57%/55%.

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  • mlb1111mlb1111 Member Posts: 9
    Hello, I was wondering the RV for a 36/12 lease on a 2017 MKC Reserve in Virginia? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376
    mlb1111 said:

    Hello, I was wondering the RV for a 36/12 lease on a 2017 MKC Reserve in Virginia? Thanks!

    59% residual. No MF info for Lincoln.

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  • jacksrnjacksrn Member Posts: 2
    May i get the RV and MF for a 2017 Lincoln MKC Reserve, 10K, 36mo, MSRP 47,560 in AZ?
    Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,246
    jacksrn said:

    May i get the RV and MF for a 2017 Lincoln MKC Reserve, 10K, 36mo, MSRP 47,560 in AZ?
    Thanks.

    60% residual.

    We don't have APR/MF information for Lincoln

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  • lsutiger999lsutiger999 Member Posts: 13
    I am getting $535 for 12k/24 or $585 for 15k/24, MKC AWD Reserve 300Model. (tax included- Zero out of pocket). Is that a good deal? (Incentives- Lincoln loyalty, college grad credit, + std lincoln red carpet)

    2017 LINCOLN MKC RESERVE AWD, 2.3L GTDI I-4 Engine, 6-Speed with SelectShift® Automatic
    Paint
    White
    Exterior
    Technology Package
    Adaptive Cruise Control and Collision Warning with Brake Support
    BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross-traffic Alert
    Lane Keeping System
    Active Park Assist
    Daytime Running Lamps
    20" Polished Aluminum Wheels with Ebony Painted Pockets
    Interior
    Hazelnut
    Climate Package
    Premium Reversible Cargo Mat
    All-Weather Floor Mats
    Heated and cooled front seats
    Heated Steering Wheel
    Available Navigation with SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link®
    Premium AM/FM Radio with THX® II Certified Audio System and HD Radio™
    SYNC® 3
    SiriusXM Radio
    Enhanced THX® II Certified Audio System
    Premium Leather-Trimmed Perforated Heated and Cooled Front Bucket Seats
    Accessories
    Molded Splash Guards
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,246

    I am getting $535 for 12k/24 or $585 for 15k/24, MKC AWD Reserve 300Model. (tax included- Zero out of pocket). Is that a good deal? (Incentives- Lincoln loyalty, college grad credit, + std lincoln red carpet)

    2017 LINCOLN MKC RESERVE AWD, 2.3L GTDI I-4 Engine, 6-Speed with SelectShift® Automatic
    Paint
    White
    Exterior
    Technology Package
    Adaptive Cruise Control and Collision Warning with Brake Support
    BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross-traffic Alert
    Lane Keeping System
    Active Park Assist
    Daytime Running Lamps
    20" Polished Aluminum Wheels with Ebony Painted Pockets
    Interior
    Hazelnut
    Climate Package
    Premium Reversible Cargo Mat
    All-Weather Floor Mats
    Heated and cooled front seats
    Heated Steering Wheel
    Available Navigation with SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link®
    Premium AM/FM Radio with THX® II Certified Audio System and HD Radio™
    SYNC® 3
    SiriusXM Radio
    Enhanced THX® II Certified Audio System
    Premium Leather-Trimmed Perforated Heated and Cooled Front Bucket Seats
    Accessories
    Molded Splash Guards

    We don't have any Lincoln lease info.
    What is the MSRP?

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  • lsutiger999lsutiger999 Member Posts: 13
    MSRP $48,700
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,246

    MSRP $48,700

    Not a bad price relative to MSRP.

    Have you priced a 36 month lease?

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  • lsutiger999lsutiger999 Member Posts: 13
    No, I didn't price the 36 month. I just want a shorter lease. Thanks for the help.
  • dewarsandsodadewarsandsoda Member Posts: 211
    Hello,
    Can you please provide the November RV and MF for a 2017 MKC Select with Select Plus for the following terms?
    - 24/10
    - 36/10

    Are there any incentives or rebates to consider?

    Cheers!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376

    Hello,
    Can you please provide the November RV and MF for a 2017 MKC Select with Select Plus for the following terms?
    - 24/10
    - 36/10

    Are there any incentives or rebates to consider?

    Cheers!

    66% or 60%

    We don't have MF/APR or incentive information for Lincoln.

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  • dewarsandsodadewarsandsoda Member Posts: 211
    Thanks! How does the RV change for a 2017 MKC FWD Select with Select Plus in SoCal @ 39/7500?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376

    Thanks! How does the RV change for a 2017 MKC FWD Select with Select Plus in SoCal @ 39/7500?

    59%

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  • gearboygearboy Member Posts: 50
    Residual and MF for an MKC Select FWD 2.0 36/10 in Florida.

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376
    gearboy said:

    Residual and MF for an MKC Select FWD 2.0 36/10 in Florida.

    Thanks

    We only have residual values for Lincoln - 60%

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  • gearboygearboy Member Posts: 50
    Hi....do you have the updated February figures for the above?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376
    gearboy said:

    Hi....do you have the updated February figures for the above?

    Thanks

    Same residual as last month.

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  • wbfreedywbfreedy Member Posts: 1
    Can you tell me money factor and residual value % for 2017 Lincoln MKC Select AWD 36 mos. 15,000 miles
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,246
    wbfreedy said:

    Can you tell me money factor and residual value % for 2017 Lincoln MKC Select AWD 36 mos. 15,000 miles

    The only info we have for Lincoln is residuals.

    57%

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  • steph9178steph9178 Member Posts: 23
    Do you have the MF and RV for 36/10 and 36/12 ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376
    steph9178 said:

    Do you have the MF and RV for 36/10 and 36/12 ?

    What trim level?

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  • steph9178steph9178 Member Posts: 23


    Can you give me the same for the MKX? (I'm very undecided on what I want this time around)
    Michaell said:

    steph9178 said:

    Do you have the MF and RV for 36/10 and 36/12 ?

    What trim level?
    Reserve and Black Label

    Can you give me the same for the MKX? (I'm very undecided on what I want this time around)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376
    steph9178 said:



    Can you give me the same for the MKX? (I'm very undecided on what I want this time around)

    Michaell said:

    steph9178 said:

    Do you have the MF and RV for 36/10 and 36/12 ?

    What trim level?
    Reserve and Black Label

    Can you give me the same for the MKX? (I'm very undecided on what I want this time around)
    60% / 59% for the Reserve
    56% / 55% for the Black Label FWD; subtract 1% for AWD

    55% / 54% for both trims of the MKX

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  • travelgeek121travelgeek121 Member Posts: 24
    Got a deal offer for a 2017 MKC Select AWD trying to actually do this from memory since I stupidly left the sheet on my desk at work

    10,500 Miles

    MSRP $43,225

    Sales Price $40,400 (Price was a couple hundred under the invoice price)

    MF.... .00125 (not sure how I feel about this considering this is much higher than Ford offers)

    Residual 60% $25,935

    Lease cash: $250

    Doc Fee $150

    DMV fee $780 (new regional transit tax is expensive)

    Cash down $1500

    Payment $497 per month with 9.5% tax included

    Am wondering if this is a good deal. It was honestly like pulling teeth to get to. The initial offers they made were over $625/Month.... I knew that was not a good deal. I pushed really hard on the MF since I have perfect credit and the finance manager swore that was the most attractive terms he could offer.

    Anyone have any input. I did pretty much everything but sign the dotted line as they were wearing me down. I have a lease they are ending early for me (Ford Early Bird). And they needed to postpone until Monday since I originally leased the vehicle elsewhere.

    Price below invoice feels like a good deal, but the MF I know is nothing great. If it were as low as some of the Ford products advertised (.0001). We'd cut another 80 bucks a month off the payment, they swore up and down that was the best they could do without Lincoln making them adjust the residual.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376

    Got a deal offer for a 2017 MKC Select AWD trying to actually do this from memory since I stupidly left the sheet on my desk at work

    10,500 Miles

    MSRP $43,225

    Sales Price $40,400 (Price was a couple hundred under the invoice price)

    MF.... .00125 (not sure how I feel about this considering this is much higher than Ford offers)

    Residual 60% $25,935

    Lease cash: $250

    Doc Fee $150

    DMV fee $780 (new regional transit tax is expensive)

    Cash down $1500

    Payment $497 per month with 9.5% tax included

    Am wondering if this is a good deal. It was honestly like pulling teeth to get to. The initial offers they made were over $625/Month.... I knew that was not a good deal. I pushed really hard on the MF since I have perfect credit and the finance manager swore that was the most attractive terms he could offer.

    Anyone have any input. I did pretty much everything but sign the dotted line as they were wearing me down. I have a lease they are ending early for me (Ford Early Bird). And they needed to postpone until Monday since I originally leased the vehicle elsewhere.

    Price below invoice feels like a good deal, but the MF I know is nothing great. If it were as low as some of the Ford products advertised (.0001). We'd cut another 80 bucks a month off the payment, they swore up and down that was the best they could do without Lincoln making them adjust the residual.

    We don't have the MF information for Lincoln, so I can't tell you if it's marked up or not.

    You may check with other dealers and see if you get a consistent answer.

    Using all the numbers you've provided, I get $531/mo with tax included. I'd confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer. The difference between your calculated payment and mine is about $1100 on the cap cost.

    BTW, the dealer is not allowed to modify the residual - it is set by the bank.

    Therefore, I'd also confirm that this is a Ford Credit sourced lease.

    Have you considered an Escape? We've got those numbers, and I can't imagine the feature difference is all that large between it and the MKC.

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  • travelgeek121travelgeek121 Member Posts: 24
    So we compared the escape and MKC.  Escape had a 53% residual on the same terms but better rebates and a much better MF. (Roughly. 0001)  however there was a significant difference in ride quality and general quality of the interior.  It was also roughly 39,000 for the loaded up Escape... only a few thousand less.

    No doubt the lease on the Ford would be a little less, it's just not as nice of a car.  We really preferred the Lincoln. also the 7% difference in residual pretty much negates the Escape rebate.  It's just that attractive money factor that's making me still keep it in the back of my mind.

    Also, i know that the residual should be static... but I'm telling you he changed the residual by 1% and the money factor twice throughout the negotiations.  Said that Lincoln will allow them manipulate terms to a certain extent.    I've actually ran across this one other time... I've leased a total of 9 vehicles over the years.  Not sure if this is some BS dealer game or a real thing. 

    The deal looks good minus the money factor, which doesn't feel exorbitant, but I'm not sure its the best out there.  I don't like that it's not standard.


  • travelgeek121travelgeek121 Member Posts: 24
    Thank you for being so helpful btw.  You always always respond to everyone so quickly. 

    They acted like they were giving me the world on this deal and they were pretty convincing. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376

    So we compared the escape and MKC.  Escape had a 53% residual on the same terms but better rebates and a much better MF. (Roughly. 0001)  however there was a significant difference in ride quality and general quality of the interior.  It was also roughly 39,000 for the loaded up Escape... only a few thousand less.

    No doubt the lease on the Ford would be a little less, it's just not as nice of a car.  We really preferred the Lincoln. also the 7% difference in residual pretty much negates the Escape rebate.  It's just that attractive money factor that's making me still keep it in the back of my mind.

    Also, i know that the residual should be static... but I'm telling you he changed the residual by 1% and the money factor twice throughout the negotiations.  Said that Lincoln will allow them manipulate terms to a certain extent.    I've actually ran across this one other time... I've leased a total of 9 vehicles over the years.  Not sure if this is some BS dealer game or a real thing. 

    The deal looks good minus the money factor, which doesn't feel exorbitant, but I'm not sure its the best out there.  I don't like that it's not standard.


    Fair enough on the comparison between the two.

    I've never seen a residual that varies. The only metrics that determine the residual are the miles per year and the lease term. Perhaps the dealer was manipulating those to get a better payment.

    FWIW, the MF on the BMW X3 is .00140, so .00125 is not awful.

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  • txbelle1txbelle1 Member Posts: 66
    what is MF and residual in TX for MKC 36/10k miles-any dealer credits on lease? thx!
  • travelgeek121travelgeek121 Member Posts: 24
    So I called around to a couple of dealers today to see if they could do better.    One tried to play games with pricing a model either much higher or lower MSRP than the one we chose.  The deals were not as good as what we already were offered at the first dealer.  And they seemed very disingenuous.

    The one dealership was significantly worse saying they add 1,000 to sticker as a local markup and typically move the vehicles without much difficulty.   Not sure if I buy that, but Seattle
    is pretty much the next Bay area anymore.  Jobs, property and just about everything else has increased at a crazy rate over the past few years.

    Looks like the deal we got is about as good as we will find in Seattle.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376
    txbelle1 said:

    what is MF and residual in TX for MKC 36/10k miles-any dealer credits on lease? thx!

    60% for all trims but Black Label.

    56% for Black Label FWD
    57% for Black Label AWD

    No MF info on Lincoln.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376

    So I called around to a couple of dealers today to see if they could do better.    One tried to play games with pricing a model either much higher or lower MSRP than the one we chose.  The deals were not as good as what we already were offered at the first dealer.  And they seemed very disingenuous.

    The one dealership was significantly worse saying they add 1,000 to sticker as a local markup and typically move the vehicles without much difficulty.   Not sure if I buy that, but Seattle
    is pretty much the next Bay area anymore.  Jobs, property and just about everything else has increased at a crazy rate over the past few years.

    Looks like the deal we got is about as good as we will find in Seattle.

    Not willing to travel to Tacoma? Portland? Bellingham? Spokane? Is it worth it to drive 3-4 hours to get a better deal?

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  • lb530529lb530529 Member Posts: 106
    hi michael could you please list the mf and residual or the MKC Reserve 36/12 and any incentives available?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376
    lb530529 said:

    hi michael could you please list the mf and residual or the MKC Reserve 36/12 and any incentives available?

    58% and 1.00%

    $1000 lease cash

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  • lb530529lb530529 Member Posts: 106
    Just to make sure, you have already converted the money factor into a percentage, instead of using the decimal point format, right? Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376
    lb530529 said:

    Just to make sure, you have already converted the money factor into a percentage, instead of using the decimal point format, right? Thank you

    Nope - divide by 2400 to get the decimal MF value.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,246
    lb530529 said:

    Just to make sure, you have already converted the money factor into a percentage, instead of using the decimal point format, right? Thank you

    1.00% APR and 58% residual

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  • chriscol11783chriscol11783 Member Posts: 69
    Hi there, at it again. Was looking at the 2017 MKC Reserve 2.3 with AWD. Would you mind sending me the residual and MF on 36 & 39 month lease with 10k miles? On the MF would you send based on score between 650-680ish? Thanks so much.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,246

    Hi there, at it again. Was looking at the 2017 MKC Reserve 2.3 with AWD. Would you mind sending me the residual and MF on 36 & 39 month lease with 10k miles? On the MF would you send based on score between 650-680ish? Thanks so much.

    59%/57% residual
    1.00% APR and $1000 lease cash for top tier.
    Not sure of the APR bump for lower credit tiers.

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  • bigmoney94bigmoney94 Member Posts: 3
    Could you please list the mf and residual on an MKC Reserve FWD 39 month 12k miles lease in OH? Also, any incentives? Credit score 800+.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,376

    Could you please list the mf and residual on an MKC Reserve FWD 39 month 12k miles lease in OH? Also, any incentives? Credit score 800+.

    56% and 1.00%
    $750 lease cash

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