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xwesx · August 2017

nyccarguy said:
Enough about me though, how's the Type R today?

Hi, breld! How's the car; the wife; the family? Please respond in that order, as I expect my attention to wane toward the end....

stickguy · August 2017

Well, need to ask about car first. Otherwise might be gone by the time he gets to that.

Michaell · August 2017

breld said:

Wife and I went to Carmax to get an appraisal on the barely used Beetle, just to see if it was even palatable to consider trading out for an X5 so quickly. So, paid $23k for it brand new a scant couple months ago (if that?), and Carmax offered $21k. I'm not scoffing at $2k, but I can totally stomach that. We're X5 shopping Saturday!

Do you have your eye on anything in particular?

stickguy · August 2017

Speaking of tires, I played with the size calculator. I thought the 215/45s on my old tC were scary skinny sidewall. The 225/45 on the Jetta slightly better.

The civic R is equivalent to 165/45!

Makes me appreciate the 235/60s on the RDX even more.

pensfan83 · August 2017

I'll be car shopping on Saturday as well but not for me and not for BMW's. My father is tossing around the idea of trading in his F-150 on a newer, higher level model. He originally was going to wait until Ford re-introduced the Ranger and downsizing but while in for state inspection a few weeks ago he was "caught" walking the lot while he waited for service. One thing lead to another and they had him in an office working the numbers on a Platinum model. He hasn't pulled the trigger yet but unless I convince him to stand pat he'll probably move forward on it.

This would be the shortest he's ever kept a vehicle. His last Ranger he kept for 9 years and the Ranger before that was around for 12.

corvette · August 2017

New Continental Extremecontact Sport tires installed on the Mustang. Ride quality much improved. I never checked pressure on the old tires, but suspect they were way overinflated. Guy at Discount Tire said the cracking in the tread on the old Pirellis didn't look that bad, but they recommend replacement anyway since they were over six years old. I think I made the right choice!

breld · August 2017

I am currently at the tint shop right now getting the windows tinted and clear bra installed. This tint shop is actually housed in the indoor garage of a local car broker, so lots of salespeople around - many of which crowded around to check out the car. I get the feeling most enthusiasts have obviously read about it and viewed pictures, but everyone seems to be particularly impressed with it in person, similar to how I was when I finally saw one in the flesh.

I still haven't driven it all that much - when I have my kids, which was last night through this weekend, I take the Durango for their comfort and baseball hauling duties.

But the time I have had in it is nothing but fun. Can't wait to put on a few more miles on it and start pushing it a bit. I may simply be Honda biased, but I find the Type R to be very entertaining to drive even at normal speeds, whereas I always found the WRX to be more of a chore. It's without a doubt more specific in purpose than the GTI, but with only a mild compromise in daily drivability. Though I do find myself more paranoid about potholes with those incredibly narrow sidewalls.

At work, it's funny - as you can imagine, the wife and I have quite the reputation for the revolving door of cars, and this Civic has received more comments (complimentary ones at that!) than any other Audi, BMW or whatever else we've had. Not that I care about that feedback, but it is fun.

breld · August 2017

Oh...the wife and family are fine.

breld · August 2017

Michaell said:

breld said:

Wife and I went to Carmax to get an appraisal on the barely used Beetle, just to see if it was even palatable to consider trading out for an X5 so quickly.

So, paid $23k for it brand new a scant couple months ago (if that?), and Carmax offered $21k. I'm not scoffing at $2k, but I can totally stomach that.

We're X5 shopping Saturday!

Do you have your eye on anything in particular?

The one I posted specifically about on the RWTIV forum. It's a gray over ivory up at Gebhardt that is very well equipped. Based on Q's advice, it definitely seems a bit overpriced, though I have to say, it's pretty consistent with Schomp's one-price on comparable vehicles, so maybe there's a bit of premium here in CO.

Anyway, with the strong bid on the Beetle from Carmax in hand, we'll see what can be done.

nyccarguy · August 2017

corvette said:
New Continental Extremecontact Sport tires installed on the Mustang. Ride quality much improved. I never checked pressure on the old tires, but suspect they were way overinflated. Guy at Discount Tire said the cracking in the tread on the old Pirellis didn't look that bad, but they recommend replacement anyway since they were over six years old. I think I made the right choice!

There's nothing like a fresh set of tires!

xwesx · August 2017

breld said:
Oh...the wife and family are fine.

Hah! Touché, sir!

ab348 · August 2017

breld said:
We're X5 shopping Saturday!

Didn't you already have one of them before?

Maybe I'm just confused. Understandable.

qbrozen · August 2017

breld said:

The one I posted specifically about on the RWTIV forum. It's a gray over ivory up at Gebhardt that is very well equipped. Based on Q's advice, it definitely seems a bit overpriced, though I have to say, it's pretty consistent with Schomp's one-price on comparable vehicles, so maybe there's a bit of premium here in CO.

Anyway, with the strong bid on the Beetle from Carmax in hand, we'll see what can be done.

In my experience, BMW dealers seem to have some kind of unspoken truce to all price their CPO cars at about $8-$10k over auction value. It is pretty obscene. It is also why I wound up buying my 135i before the dealer was able to CPO it.

stickguy · August 2017

Breld has had just about everything by now. Eventually had to recycle.

Bradd, I probably am doing tires on the RDX before winter. Up to about 41k on it now. Will enjoy the fresh tread and traction. But not paying for it (there go the first 2 payment free months!). 1 payment left in September, and finally own it outright! Wonder what it is worth?

breld · August 2017

ab348 said:

breld said:
We're X5 shopping Saturday!
Didn't you already have one of them before?

Maybe I'm just confused. Understandable.

Well, yeah.

We had a 2012 X5 35d that my wife handed over to me when she became so enthralled with her MINI (that's, ahem, 2 MINIs ago). Then I traded that and the S4 together for the SQ5.

For whatever it's worth, this current gen of the X5 feels quite different from that previous gen, as far as refinement and car-like ride.

breld · August 2017

qbrozen said:

breld said:

The one I posted specifically about on the RWTIV forum. It's a gray over ivory up at Gebhardt that is very well equipped. Based on Q's advice, it definitely seems a bit overpriced, though I have to say, it's pretty consistent with Schomp's one-price on comparable vehicles, so maybe there's a bit of premium here in CO.

Anyway, with the strong bid on the Beetle from Carmax in hand, we'll see what can be done.
In my experience, BMW dealers seem to have some kind of unspoken truce to all price their CPO cars at about $8-$10k over auction value. It is pretty obscene. It is also why I wound up buying my 135i before the dealer was able to CPO it.

Good to know. And that looks to be exactly how the dealers around here are pricing them.

The dealer we're going to tomorrow actually has one a bit less equipped than the 2014 one we're looking at, but it's a 2015 with less miles. Non-CPO for whatever reason and priced thousands cheaper.

Realistically (and obviously), a 2015 with 1-2 years left on the original warranty will be more than sufficient for us without the extended CPO warranty.

28firefighter · August 2017

breld said:
Wife and I went to Carmax to get an appraisal on the barely used Beetle, just to see if it was even palatable to consider trading out for an X5 so quickly.

So, paid $23k for it brand new a scant couple months ago (if that?), and Carmax offered $21k. I'm not scoffing at $2k, but I can totally stomach that.

We're X5 shopping Saturday!

That's really not bad - 10% depreciation. I assume that's before tax...

breld · August 2017

Yeah, if/when we find an X5 she likes, it would be nice if they at least match the Carmax offer on trade and we can save on the taxes. Fortunately, since we moved last year, our tax rate is down to 4.1%, whereas it was 7.8% at our last location. Big difference on our car purchases!

corvette · August 2017

7.8%?!? Is that property tax? Because I've had years where my income tax was 7.8% of gross!

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@corvette nice nice so you will be bring the Mustang in for service next Saturday! cante wate to hear how it all gos!

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@nyccarguy nice rite up on your loner qx60 is the cvt that much of an pane? whent in my olderbrothers whell it is my sisterinlaws pathfinder that she has was ok the cvt but could just be me not for everyone I no!

tbirdmarco · August 2017

happy Friday all! have an good weekand everyone!

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@fintail man o man sorry to hear your frends car shopping will be delayed! an bit. ask him when you can how he likes his fuzian plugin loner car! I hear you on how they tirned the pathfinder in 2013 in to an glorified minivan lol like the jen before 2005 till 2012 the best!

Michaell · August 2017

corvette said:
7.8%?!? Is that property tax? Because I've had years where my income tax was 7.8% of gross!

Nope, that's sales tax.

State has one tax.
County has another.
City has a third.
Then, there may be special tax districts you are part of, based on your location.

For me, it's 8%

roadburner · August 2017

@breld - You have a PM...

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@breld nice glad family is all doing fine! lollollol nice you got the tints and clear braw on the type R today! have fun car shopping tomero no when I get back on hear on Tuesday night after my long weekand and working on Tuesday you will have an nother punch on an x5 beamer SUV and nice CarMax offer on the bug that maby you had for one munth!

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@corvette nice glad you got the new Tires on the mustang and it is driving grate! yes tires have to change at most no mor than 6 years or if you drive the car a lot than would be way before 6 years!

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@Michaell man man all those taxes crazy!

stickguy · August 2017

told the wife today that we needed to get looking soon at cars. And might stop tomorrow while out running around doing stuff. She gave me a response along the lines of "whatever makes you happy", though without a lot of conviction! But she is a trooper, and will happily tag along.

my current obsession is a service loaner BMW lease, either a 3 series or X1. could be fun shopping those the week after Christmas. I think that I will be stopping to drive both of them tomorrow. along with a TLX V6. Should be a fun day! Then stop at one of the local breweries for a refreshment!

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@stickguy have fun car looking tomero cant wate to hear all about it! and have fun having an nice drink! afterwords!

stickguy · August 2017

this could be a fun car. Would have to see it to know, but at the price, a definite good deal.

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2008-ford-edge-4dr_se_fwd-used-16762553.html

stickguy · August 2017

hate the colors, but the deal seems good for a CPO.

http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/certified/BMW/2015-BMW-X1-Mount-Laurel-f02a3cea0a0d04fe56152bf7676d70d5.htm

tifighter · August 2017

I like this one a lot. Black/blk isn't my favorite, but the condition seems promising. Carfax shows it as one owner. After looking the Z3 buyers guide website for comps, the price is in line. The 3.0 would be preferable, but I think it is all about condition with one of these now. M versions are well into the 30's and beyond. Tasty.

stickguy · August 2017

I could live with this 3 series. might go take it for a spin tomorrow.

http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/used/BMW/2017-BMW-3+Series-Mount-Laurel-e5e4560c0a0e09901d86ad66d5097336.htm

I actually like this one better. could live with the black interior I guess. Like the red accents, love the sport seats, and it is a 330!

http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/certified/BMW/2017-BMW-330i-Mount-Laurel-1d7f0f110a0e0ae8294096d1b694027e.htm

qbrozen · August 2017

stickguy said:

I could live with this 3 series. might go take it for a spin tomorrow. http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/used/BMW/2017-BMW-3+Series-Mount-Laurel-e5e4560c0a0e09901d86ad66d5097336.htm I actually like this one better. could live with the black interior I guess. Like the red accents, love the sport seats, and it is a 330! http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/certified/BMW/2017-BMW-330i-Mount-Laurel-1d7f0f110a0e0ae8294096d1b694027e.htm

Well your budget suddenly shot through the roof!

tifighter · August 2017

tifighter said:
I like this one a lot. Black/blk isn't my favorite, but the condition seems promising. Carfax shows it as one owner. After looking the Z3 buyers guide website for comps, the price is in line. The 3.0 would be preferable, but I think it is all about condition with one of these now. M versions are well into the 30's and beyond. Tasty.

Whoa, seems the guy has a fleet of these coupes...

stickguy · August 2017

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

I could live with this 3 series. might go take it for a spin tomorrow.

http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/used/BMW/2017-BMW-3+Series-Mount-Laurel-e5e4560c0a0e09901d86ad66d5097336.htm

I actually like this one better. could live with the black interior I guess. Like the red accents, love the sport seats, and it is a 330!

http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/certified/BMW/2017-BMW-330i-Mount-Laurel-1d7f0f110a0e0ae8294096d1b694027e.htm

Well your budget suddenly shot through the roof!

my budget is always a fungible thing. Partly depends on if I am getting a "dream car" that I can honestly say will be a long term keeper, so will just finance for cheap rate for 5/6 years. or, as has happened before, will end up saying screw it and spending more than I wanted it (wanted, not could).

I am dropping 2 cars (close to $750/mo) off the books in the next 2 months, and in december, make the last ever college tuition payment. So if I want to stretch a few $100 a month, can probably handle it!

or I will just lease again.

qbrozen · August 2017

tifighter said:

I like this one a lot. Black/blk isn't my favorite, but the condition seems promising. Carfax shows it as one owner. After looking the Z3 buyers guide website for comps, the price is in line. The 3.0 would be preferable, but I think it is all about condition with one of these now. M versions are well into the 30's and beyond. Tasty.
Whoa, seems the guy has a fleet of these coupes...

Rather suspicious.

28firefighter · August 2017

I've always liked the Z3 coupes. Mind you, I like the M roadsters even more...but harder to find.

fintail · August 2017

The local Lexus dealer down the street from me has had This Z3M coupe for about 2 months

IIRC they started off at around 30K, reality must be setting in.

fintail · August 2017

I suspect I will get a call in the morning, before I want to get out of bed, about his latest escapade. He puts a lot more effort into this than me.

I always had respect for the old Pathfinder, even if it was something I would likely never buy - it was a legit off-roader. Now, well, I suppose a shopping mall parking lot is technically off-road.

Marcothecarguy1986 said:
@fintail man o man sorry to hear your frends car shopping will be delayed! an bit. ask him when you can how he likes his fuzian plugin loner car! I hear you on how they tirned the pathfinder in 2013 in to an glorified minivan lol like the jen before 2005 till 2012 the best!

nyccarguy · August 2017

@stickguy - I know you don't like black guts, but BMW Sport Seats are awesome. The red stitching is cool. What's the deal with that? Is it a "Sport Package" car or do they still do the "Sport Line?" Or did someone goof and order the Sport Seats as a standalone option? @roadburner?

nyccarguy · August 2017

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

I could live with this 3 series. might go take it for a spin tomorrow. http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/used/BMW/2017-BMW-3+Series-Mount-Laurel-e5e4560c0a0e09901d86ad66d5097336.htm I actually like this one better. could live with the black interior I guess. Like the red accents, love the sport seats, and it is a 330! http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/certified/BMW/2017-BMW-330i-Mount-Laurel-1d7f0f110a0e0ae8294096d1b694027e.htm

Well your budget suddenly shot through the roof!

Ha! I was going to say that his edmunds account got hacked!

28firefighter · August 2017

I'm strangely OK with this approach for dealing with the Type R hype. Basically Honda of Kirkland is donating all proceeds above MSRP to charity.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/152672674729

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@fintail cant wate to hear mor on your frends car hunting story! hopefully he does not call you so early in the morning! same hear felt the same about the pryer jen pathfinder and the jen like you had before that one to!

tbirdmarco · August 2017

@stickguy all nice cars you posted above! hope later on today you are able to go and drive that BMW3 searies! there is an guy across the street that has an BMW z3 convertabale was parked infront of my house yesterday afternoon for an bit so whent up to it to look had the top down have never talked to the guy as of yet! but nexttime I see him will talk to him! has an exzost think it is auto black with black interior will get an pick next time!

nyccarguy · August 2017

Marcothecarguy1986 said:
@nyccarguy nice rite up on your loner qx60 is the cvt that much of an pane? whent in my olderbrothers whell it is my sisterinlaws pathfinder that she has was ok the cvt but could just be me not for everyone I no!

It's not so much the CVT. There are 4 "modes" that you can select via a dial behind the shifter (Snow, Economy, Normal, & Sport). I've been driving in Normal & Sport. Normal & Sport make the transmission "kick down" for passing. Economy mode just leaves it in the highest gear. In Economy mode, it feels like you are in 5th or 6th gear of a manual transmission at 45 mph and try to accelerate. I just don't like the QX60 as a whole.

benjaminh · August 2017

stickguy said:
I could live with this 3 series. might go take it for a spin tomorrow.

http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/used/BMW/2017-BMW-3+Series-Mount-Laurel-e5e4560c0a0e09901d86ad66d5097336.htm

I actually like this one better. could live with the black interior I guess. Like the red accents, love the sport seats, and it is a 330!

http://www.bmwofmtlaurel.com/certified/BMW/2017-BMW-330i-Mount-Laurel-1d7f0f110a0e0ae8294096d1b694027e.htm

For that price, why not get a new one? Are you still going to take a look at the new 2018 Accord when it comes out?

tjc78 · August 2017

Got an email from Buick the other day. Four lease payments waived and $1000-$2000 additional rebate on any Buick. Pretty nice pull ahead program.

I did some digging and I thought my last payment was Jan and due back Feb 1st. Nope, Feb 1 and March 1st due back. I think as crazy as this sounds it's better. I'll recover from the holidays and start shopping around the middle of January.

Plus... this mess will be long done

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tbirdmarco · August 2017

@nyccarguy you like what you like the qx60 is not your coop of tee! have an good weekand man!

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