Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

breld

I already had a young guy stop to look at the car as it was being taken off the truck.

Probably could have sold it right then and there.

kyfdx

More pictures!

rayainsw

ENJOY IT !!!!
- Ray
.. at least for a few minutes...

Mr_Shiftright

breld said:

I already had a young guy stop to look at the car as it was being taken off the truck.

Probably could have sold it right then and there.

Now THAT would be funny....

andres3

andres3 said:

For a year or 2 recently Audi threw in the 1.8T into the base model FWE A3's to hit the $30,000 MSRP price point. The 2.0T made 40 more HP with more torque and got 1 more MPG w/ AWD to boot, but the 1.8T was $3,000 less (no AWD).

breld said:

So have you read the manual regarding engine break-in yet?

Hopefully it says to accelerate to the red line several times per trip in the manual.

breld

You asked for it.

stickguy

Bad news. They forgot to put tires on your wheels.

I doubt I could make it a week down here without cracking a wheel. And that is if I drive like granny and try to avoid holes.

stickguy

But very snazzy. Certainly grabs attention.

tjc78

Looks menacing and I think that is probably the best color for it.

Now stop taking pictures and go beat the snot out of it!!! Congrats, enjoy (for a few weeks anyway )

breld

Thanks guys - while blue or white were my first choices, I really like this gray and now feel it was the right way to go (I'd probably say that about whatever color I ended up with, since, well, it's what I got).

@stickguy - laughing out loud in my office about the "no tires" comment.

Michaell

Now to get Mrs. @breld her new car ... she hates being behind in the annual count.

Looks good!

andres3

breld said:

Thanks guys - while blue or white were my first choices, I really like this gray and now feel it was the right way to go (I'd probably say that about whatever color I ended up with, since, well, it's what I got).

@stickguy - laughing out loud in my office about the "no tires" comment.

You joined the darker grey with red interior club! Welcome! It is a good combo; though I agree with you; not my first choice for exterior color (but it does look nice; what do they call your version of grey?)

I like the front/side view much better than the rear. I still am not feeling Honda's rear-ends! The wing, and the multi-sized exhaust seem odd. Maybe it is functional though!

On a high note, I really like the red line that borders the bottom of the car all the way around, including the wheels!

So what is the real-world price for this car?

28firefighter

Awesome looking car, @breld! Are you able to drive it yet, officially? Noticed it has no plates.

breld

Michaell said:

Now to get Mrs. @breld her new car ... she hates being behind in the annual count.

Looks good!

I think she'll do her part to close the gap.

Michaell

So what is the real-world price for this car?

If you flip back a page or two in the thread, I think the pricing details were disclosed.

nyccarguy

@breld

Oooooooooo

AaaaAaah

ab348

I'm really struggling to understand something here.

Today I visited the Audi Canada site and configured a 2018 A4 Quattro. The pricing ended up at around $44,700. I was actually surprised as I thought it would be more.

When I went to the payment estimator page, the numbers floored me. Here's a screenshot:



Residual on the lease showed (on another details page) at $27,400. So I'm laying out $740x36 for about $17000 worth of use and depreciation. I don't get it.

Mr_Shiftright

I don't think I've ever seen a car with THREE tail pipes before. Are those rear bumper vents just style, or do they do something?

stickguy

so about a 61% residual? Seems pretty normal, if not on the good side. Expensive cars depreciate more in $ terms. If you want cheap, buy a Corolla!

qbrozen

The gray helps A LOT. Still, I'd have to get rid of the wing.

tifighter

Congrats @breld ! Still think you should live stream the first test drive.

kyfdx

Mr_Shiftright said:

I don't think I've ever seen a car with THREE tail pipes before. Are those rear bumper vents just style, or do they do something?

Ferrari 458?

stickguy

Speaking of shelbys, my local guy now has one. Love this color.

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2008-ford-mustang-2dr_coupe_shelby_gt500-used-16754800.html

Mr_Shiftright

kyfdx said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I don't think I've ever seen a car with THREE tail pipes before. Are those rear bumper vents just style, or do they do something?

Ferrari 458?

Hey I think that's right! Not sure how Ferrari divides 8 into 3 or how Honda does 4 into 3.

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

The gray helps A LOT. Still, I'd have to get rid of the wing.

That wing is quite the structure. It has three parts--kind of segmented for some reason.

ab348

kyfdx said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I don't think I've ever seen a car with THREE tail pipes before. Are those rear bumper vents just style, or do they do something?

Ferrari 458?

Yeah, but it has 12 8 cylinders to share those 3 pipes.

I wonder which one of the 4 cylinders in the Honda has to have a roommate.

ab348

stickguy said:

Speaking of shelbys, my local guy now has one. Love this color.

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2008-ford-mustang-2dr_coupe_shelby_gt500-used-16754800.html

Nice paint color and I like those aftermarket (?) wheels. The drivers seat upholstery is pretty perished though.

roadburner

Mr_Shiftright said:

I don't think I've ever seen a car with THREE tail pipes before. Are those rear bumper vents just style, or do they do something?

From a Car and Driver review:
Each of the three pipes does something. The fat outer two are the primary exhaust routing. The smaller center pipe connects to a resonator tucked just behind the bumper cover. This resonator also attaches to the outer pipes. At relatively low engine speeds, air flows through the outer pipes and the resonator/center pipe, which adds some raspiness to the engine’s note. At high engine speeds, exhaust air flows almost exclusively through the main pipes, bypassing the resonator and reducing, says Honda, any booming noises. This is done without butterfly valves in the exhaust. Exhaust pressure alone effects the change.

roadburner

stickguy said:

Speaking of shelbys, my local guy now has one. Love this color.

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2008-ford-mustang-2dr_coupe_shelby_gt500-used-16754800.html

Beautiful car, but not especially quick; a 2015 GT with the Performance package is about one second faster 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile. The brakes and steering are also average at best..

xwesx

breld said:

You asked for it.

OMG! It's hideous; I love it! Hahahahaha....

You better enjoy the snot out of that car.

xwesx

Oh! I saw a brand new Focus RS on the way to work this morning... passing me, of course! AWD is good...

pensfan83

Sharp car @breld. I think it looks good in gray.

ab348

pensfan83 said:

Sharp car @breld. I think it looks good in gray.

Well, let's not get carried away. Perhaps @xwesx might describe it as "less hideous"...

andres3

ab348 said:

pensfan83 said:

Sharp car @breld. I think it looks good in gray.

Well, let's not get carried away. Perhaps @xwesx might describe it as "less hideous"...

It looks like it could keep up in the mountains and canyons.

Mr_Shiftright

roadburner said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I don't think I've ever seen a car with THREE tail pipes before. Are those rear bumper vents just style, or do they do something?

From a Car and Driver review:
Each of the three pipes does something. The fat outer two are the primary exhaust routing. The smaller center pipe connects to a resonator tucked just behind the bumper cover. This resonator also attaches to the outer pipes. At relatively low engine speeds, air flows through the outer pipes and the resonator/center pipe, which adds some raspiness to the engine’s note. At high engine speeds, exhaust air flows almost exclusively through the main pipes, bypassing the resonator and reducing, says Honda, any booming noises. This is done without butterfly valves in the exhaust. Exhaust pressure alone effects the change.

I was asking about the bumper vents and if they do something.

As for the three pipe exhaust, I can't say at least from videos that the exhaust note on the Type R is anything I would turn around to look at.

ab348

stickguy said:

so about a 61% residual? Seems pretty normal, if not on the good side. Expensive cars depreciate more in $ terms. If you want cheap, buy a Corolla!

I punched the numbers into a standalone lease calculator online and got something right around $500/mo, which is where I thought it would be. The Audi calculator seems way off the mark.

stickguy

Ah. I was only focusing on your $17,000 comment. Who knows what is going on in their static example

breld

andres3 said:

breld said:

Thanks guys - while blue or white were my first choices, I really like this gray and now feel it was the right way to go (I'd probably say that about whatever color I ended up with, since, well, it's what I got).

@stickguy - laughing out loud in my office about the "no tires" comment.

You joined the darker grey with red interior club! Welcome! It is a good combo; though I agree with you; not my first choice for exterior color (but it does look nice; what do they call your version of grey?)

I like the front/side view much better than the rear. I still am not feeling Honda's rear-ends! The wing, and the multi-sized exhaust seem odd. Maybe it is functional though!

On a high note, I really like the red line that borders the bottom of the car all the way around, including the wheels!

So what is the real-world price for this car?

Yes! That dark gray makes all the red highlights really pop.

There are indeed a lot of "odd" styling features on the car - for me, it all just works and is unabashedly bold.

Real-world price? I paid $1,750 over the $34,775 MSRP for the vehicle, though that included about $1,000 of "forced" Honda accessories. So depending on the value attached to those accessories, there was what I considered a very palatable, if not reasonable, mark-up on the car - particularly compared to what I've read of the market.

breld

28firefighter said:

Awesome looking car, @breld! Are you able to drive it yet, officially? Noticed it has no plates.

I asked the dealership about temp tags, and they overnighted them to me, so just have to throw those on and I'll be official. Come to think of it, I don't have any screws here at work to put it on, so I guess I'll be driving home with no tags - that's okay, it's not like the car will attract any attention.

Hopefully I get the title work from the dealership soon and I can get plates on it.

breld

Mr_Shiftright said:

roadburner said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I don't think I've ever seen a car with THREE tail pipes before. Are those rear bumper vents just style, or do they do something?

From a Car and Driver review:
Each of the three pipes does something. The fat outer two are the primary exhaust routing. The smaller center pipe connects to a resonator tucked just behind the bumper cover. This resonator also attaches to the outer pipes. At relatively low engine speeds, air flows through the outer pipes and the resonator/center pipe, which adds some raspiness to the engine’s note. At high engine speeds, exhaust air flows almost exclusively through the main pipes, bypassing the resonator and reducing, says Honda, any booming noises. This is done without butterfly valves in the exhaust. Exhaust pressure alone effects the change.

I was asking about the bumper vents and if they do something.

As for the three pipe exhaust, I can't say at least from videos that the exhaust note on the Type R is anything I would turn around to look at.

Those bumper vents are not vents at all - just plastic cladding. I noticed they even have the little circles for parking sensors, which we don't get in the U.S. at this point.

roadburner

xwesx said:

Oh! I saw a brand new Focus RS on the way to work this morning... passing me, of course! AWD is good...

Except when the rear diff overheats...

nyccarguy

You know, I've seen a few Focus RS (Foci?) in the "wannabe subaru blue" color. They just don't do ANYTHING for me. From what I gather, they aren't cheap either. I happen to like what FORD did with the "standard issue" FOCUS ST

qbrozen

roadburner said:

Speaking of shelbys, my local guy now has one. Love this color. http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2008-ford-mustang-2dr_coupe_shelby_gt500-used-16754800.html

Beautiful car, but not especially quick; a 2015 GT with the Performance package is about one second faster 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile. The brakes and steering are also average at best..

I think you may be mixing your specs. They are virtually equal in performance (4.3 secs in the gt500 and 4.4 in the gt). Still an impressive feat for the 2015, however, since it gives up 65 ponies to the gt500.

andres3

nyccarguy said:

You know, I've seen a few Focus RS (Foci?) in the "wannabe subaru blue" color. They just don't do ANYTHING for me. From what I gather, they aren't cheap either. I happen to like what FORD did with the "standard issue" FOCUS ST

Can you really tell the difference? I'm never sure until I see the badging!

stickguy

well, the 500 has a supercharger on it. That must help somewhat.

corvette

stickguy said:

Speaking of shelbys, my local guy now has one. Love this color.

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2008-ford-mustang-2dr_coupe_shelby_gt500-used-16754800.html

I love that color, too. That and the red tint coat on the GT I bought--either color would have been fine with me.

tbirdmarco

@breld nice you got the car! suprized you did not sell it rite than and there to the young guy looking at it as it was getting unloaded off the truck!

tbirdmarco

@stickguy nice mustang love the colors! go for it lollollol!

xwesx

andres3 said:

Can you really tell the difference? I'm never sure until I see the badging!

Ya, same here. I assumed an ST when it was approaching from behind, but noticed the RS badge as it passed. I'm not sure I have seen one in the wild before.

I haven't looked at pricing on them at all, particularly compared to a WRX or STi, but I don't know that I would consider another FWD compact/sub-compact at this point. I don't really care if a car has lots of ponies under the hood if they can't stand up on the snow and ice. I suspect that my Fiesta was just as much fun during the winter as any of these little zoom machines.

andres3

xwesx said:

andres3 said:

Can you really tell the difference? I'm never sure until I see the badging!

Ya, same here. I assumed an ST when it was approaching from behind, but noticed the RS badge as it passed. I'm not sure I have seen one in the wild before.

I haven't looked at pricing on them at all, particularly compared to a WRX or STi, but I don't know that I would consider another FWD compact/sub-compact at this point. I don't really care if a car has lots of ponies under the hood if they can't stand up on the snow and ice. I suspect that my Fiesta was just as much fun during the winter as any of these little zoom machines.

The Focus RS is supposed to be AWD, similar to the Golf R and WRX/STi.

It is the Honda Type R that decided to go with FWD.