That wagon does look pretty amazing. I don't recall ever seeing that color before on that generation. I could not guess on the price. I bet it would fetch a pretty penny on BaT.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I can only comment on the market price with a lot of data points---one-off sales can land just about anywhere, depending on how naive the seller is or how crazy the buyer is.
I have some doubts the color on that wagon is original, but maybe not far off an original color called "ultramarine blue". MB had a huge color palette then, and it works well with the interior anyway. I am leery of what may lurk under the accessory wheelarch trim, with the car being on Lawn Guyland and all. But if it all checks out, indeed it would do well on BaT.
CARFAX says it's a diesel, but CARFAX also records "accident with another vehicle". Old accident, though--but still, that's a bodacious asking price for a car with a dirty report.
Oh, wait....TWO accidents on CARFAX. Possibly 4 owners, last one Nov. 2017.
Nice attitude also: "NO TRADES, STOP! HAVE $14999 READY TO PAY OR DO NOT BOTHER, STOP WITH, WOULD I TAKE QUESTIONS! VERY SIMPLE, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO READ, EXER CISE YOUR M IND, AND SEE, PRICE $14999 OR DONT BOTHER ME! GO LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE!"
Gee I can hardly wait to get my hands on it. Hope I'm not too late!
These did have a 140 speedo, so that's right anyway - gassers had a 160 speedo. Fishy. That with the paint color and Shifty's accident history, and the location, would have me keeping away.
Need opinions from the experts on this one. Our son spotted this on CL and he is CONVINCED that it is underpriced by a ton and that it'll appreciate like MSFT stock did in 1986. I happen to think that it's a huge MONEY PIT and not worth more than scrap. I know I could be around so I value your thoughts!
Oh, those are neat little cars, and quite rare in the USA. Compared to a VW of that era, they are quite civilized.
I think the micro-car bubble is just about over, but nonetheless, you'd get a lot of attention and gas mileage equal to a Prius.
Now, I figured you wouldn't like it. It is cute as can be and it appears to be in great shape. If it were half that price I might be a player! Where would you ever find another one and where would you ever find parts?
Weren't those sold as a cheaper alternative to the Dauphines?
Yes they were cheaper than a Dauphine, and parts would be fairly difficult. You'd have to scour the Internet and buy rusty buckets of things piecemeal---or ask a friend in France to help you. I commend anyone who had the patience to restore one.
Isell, tell him to run. far and fast. I don't think a clean one is going for that much, and this one is a rat that will cost you a fortune. just the heater fan I think is a huge, expensive job. rust and paint? This is a 1,500 car that will be a $50,000 sink hole 6 months from now, worth 1/2 that maybe!
Need opinions from the experts on this one. Our son spotted this on CL and he is CONVINCED that it is underpriced by a ton and that it'll appreciate like MSFT stock did in 1986. I happen to think that it's a huge MONEY PIT and not worth more than scrap. I know I could be around so I value your thoughts!
That made me laugh. The joke was "Erhältlich in allen Sanitärfarben" -- available in all bathroom colors -- and there was truth in that.
Anything metallic or bright was extra, but all the beiges sands browns whites creams and earthy greens you could ever want were available for the asking.
Need opinions from the experts on this one. Our son spotted this on CL and he is CONVINCED that it is underpriced by a ton and that it'll appreciate like MSFT stock did in 1986. I happen to think that it's a huge MONEY PIT and not worth more than scrap. I know I could be around so I value your thoughts!
https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/d/1973-mercedes-benz-450slc/6556649276.html
Put a bullet in it
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Need opinions from the experts on this one. Our son spotted this on CL and he is CONVINCED that it is underpriced by a ton and that it'll appreciate like MSFT stock did in 1986. I happen to think that it's a huge MONEY PIT and not worth more than scrap. I know I could be around so I value your thoughts!
https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/d/1973-mercedes-benz-450slc/6556649276.html
Put a bullet in it
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Need opinions from the experts on this one. Our son spotted this on CL and he is CONVINCED that it is underpriced by a ton and that it'll appreciate like MSFT stock did in 1986. I happen to think that it's a huge MONEY PIT and not worth more than scrap. I know I could be around so I value your thoughts!
It's still the same today, but even more thrifty (on MBs part) - for mainstream models in the US anyway, only non-metallic white and black are "free" colors. Others are extra cost, at least $700 or so, I think. That being said, the brand still has a lot more color choice than most. Back in the day, the color selection was huge, I think fintails could eventually be found in a couple dozen colors, and W126s over the production run probably had 20+ colors, too.
I know middle market MBs of the 80s had the nickname "Rentnertraum", I think a few models still have that rep in Germany.
That made me laugh. The joke was "Erhältlich in allen Sanitärfarben" -- available in all bathroom colors -- and there was truth in that.
Anything metallic or bright was extra, but all the beiges sands browns whites creams and earthy greens you could ever want were available for the asking.
How leery would you be if someone advertises a '13 Audi S4 that claims it was well kept and cared for, but that there is under body "deterioration" due to being a Northern Canada Car the first 3 years of its life. 50K miles.
'15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
What would you pay for a clean '06 Honda Pilot with 205,000 miles?
More interested in a '02 Audi A6 with the 4.2 V8 for $2,500. Claims they did all the services recently I think (hoses, brakes, CV axles, bushings, water pump, & timing belt) They don't state the mileage, which I've learned usually means 200K miles.
'15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
What would you pay for a clean '06 Honda Pilot with 205,000 miles?
More interested in a '02 Audi A6 with the 4.2 V8 for $2,500. Claims they did all the services recently I think (hoses, brakes, CV axles, bushings, water pump, & timing belt) They don't state the mileage, which I've learned usually means 200K miles.
An '02 Audi V8---that's basically a Death Wish. I would consider rejecting the car for FREE if it was offered to me. Seriously.
'06 Pilot with 205K? If it looked decent and ran well, and had no major needs, then maybe $3,500--$4,000 tops. If there are mechanical or cosmetic issues of any note, deduct accordingly.
Basically, at 205K, a car's statistical life is over. You are looking at an 82 year old man playing a fast game of tennis. Yes, he's in remarkable shape for his age, but when you turn around, you may hear a THUD.
What would you pay for a clean '06 Honda Pilot with 205,000 miles?
More interested in a '02 Audi A6 with the 4.2 V8 for $2,500. Claims they did all the services recently I think (hoses, brakes, CV axles, bushings, water pump, & timing belt) They don't state the mileage, which I've learned usually means 200K miles.
An '02 Audi V8---that's basically a Death Wish. I would consider rejecting the car for FREE if it was offered to me. Seriously.
'06 Pilot with 205K? If it looked decent and ran well, and had no major needs, then maybe $3,500--$4,000 tops. If there are mechanical or cosmetic issues of any note, deduct accordingly.
Basically, at 205K, a car's statistical life is over. You are looking at an 82 year old man playing a fast game of tennis. Yes, he's in remarkable shape for his age, but when you turn around, you may hear a THUD.
But isn't the Audi V8 death-wish tied to the ultra expensive timing belt maintenance, that when deferred, results in said death wish occurring? It's like a self fulfilling prophecy due to people being cheap.
If they really just did the timing belt service along with everything else "while in there" and it runs great as claimed, seems like they spent about as much as they are asking for it?
'15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
How leery would you be if someone advertises a '13 Audi S4 that claims it was well kept and cared for, but that there is under body "deterioration" due to being a Northern Canada Car the first 3 years of its life. 50K miles.
Quite!
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
No, the entire car is a disaster. Your problems will never end. This car will eat you alive.
Be warned or go forth, and may god have mercy on your soul.
Well, for $2,500, it actually isn't a death wish. Get six months out of it and you break even. Get a day out of it, and you haven't left yourself in the poor house. The trick with a car like this, though, is to know going in that you must be ready to cut it loose at any time. Once you start the repairs, that is when it will eat you up!
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
Well, if that's your philosophy---fine---then only pay its junk value from the get-go. Find out what a wrecking yard would pay for one, and offer that. A timing belt repair totals the car, so you can't even plan on doing that as a stop-gap measure. If you paid $2500 and did a timing belt, you're already in about $6000, and you haven't even started yet.
Most cars, when you talk about "the timing chain," that's what it means. Near as I can tell, we have four separate chains going on here, each with its own tensioner.
If you owe money on a car like that, "chains" sounds about right.
BTW I believe it's the beige plastic parts that break. I mean, who could have predicted that, amiright? Crazy.
They should ship the car with whips to go with the chains... -Mathias
There is an Allroad of the same vintage that I see here all the time, and I just hope that one of these days I come across the owner so that I can find out whether it has been the nightmare these cars have the reputation of being!
But, seriously... one mile to the train station?! Why does this person even HAVE a car?
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
But you're right Q--perfect car for BAT.
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Good catch! Several things look like head scratchers.
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Oh, wait....TWO accidents on CARFAX. Possibly 4 owners, last one Nov. 2017.
Nice attitude also: "NO TRADES, STOP! HAVE $14999 READY TO PAY OR DO NOT BOTHER, STOP WITH, WOULD I TAKE QUESTIONS! VERY SIMPLE, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO READ, EXER CISE YOUR M IND, AND SEE, PRICE $14999 OR DONT BOTHER ME! GO LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE!"
Gee I can hardly wait to get my hands on it. Hope I'm not too late!
These did have a 140 speedo, so that's right anyway - gassers had a 160 speedo. Fishy. That with the paint color and Shifty's accident history, and the location, would have me keeping away.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/d/1973-mercedes-benz-450slc/6556649276.html
Weren't those sold as a cheaper alternative to the Dauphines?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Auction median value is $5,000. Appreciation grade assigned by Sports Car Market Price Guide is F. ( which means pretty hopeless).
Parts car. Money pit. Rust bucket. No way out of that hole.
He should save his money and buy something better. Doesn't even look like there are many parts worth selling.
Anything metallic or bright was extra, but all the beiges sands browns whites creams and earthy greens you could ever want were available for the asking.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I know middle market MBs of the 80s had the nickname "Rentnertraum", I think a few models still have that rep in Germany.
More interested in a '02 Audi A6 with the 4.2 V8 for $2,500. Claims they did all the services recently I think (hoses, brakes, CV axles, bushings, water pump, & timing belt) They don't state the mileage, which I've learned usually means 200K miles.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I remember when the V8 A6 was a new thing, 300 hp seemed like a huge deal.
1. Flash rust --solved with chemicals and detailing
2. Flaking rust -- grinding, sanding, chipping and painting--a disgusting but probably worthwhile job.
3. Perforated rust ---just run away.
'06 Pilot with 205K? If it looked decent and ran well, and had no major needs, then maybe $3,500--$4,000 tops. If there are mechanical or cosmetic issues of any note, deduct accordingly.
Basically, at 205K, a car's statistical life is over. You are looking at an 82 year old man playing a fast game of tennis. Yes, he's in remarkable shape for his age, but when you turn around, you may hear a THUD.
If they really just did the timing belt service along with everything else "while in there" and it runs great as claimed, seems like they spent about as much as they are asking for it?
Be warned or go forth, and may god have mercy on your soul.
Or a demo derby.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Er, no.
Inasmuch as Audi proclaimed this timing chain as a "forever part", they put it against the firewall.
Joke's on us. Turns out the timing chain needs to be serviced (pulleys, tensioners, etc).
That's an engine out job, with a labor rate of (gasp) 31 hours.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
If you owe money on a car like that, "chains" sounds about right.
BTW I believe it's the beige plastic parts that break. I mean, who could have predicted that, amiright? Crazy.
They should ship the car with whips to go with the chains...
-Mathias
Sometimes I think that used cars of the future will be worthless. They'll be dumped in creeks like old TV sets.
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/2004-audi-allroad-quattro/6571269713.html
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/audi-a4-quattro-automatic-all/6569705642.html
https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/audi-a4/6584874898.html
maybe get all 3, and cobble them together to get 1 running car?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
There is an Allroad of the same vintage that I see here all the time, and I just hope that one of these days I come across the owner so that I can find out whether it has been the nightmare these cars have the reputation of being!
But, seriously... one mile to the train station?! Why does this person even HAVE a car?