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Family forums. Let's keep things G rated here please!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Several months ago, my fridge went on the brink. Fix or kick it out the door was my decision. I decided on a new one, given the old one needed an expensive part (compressor), but really wasn’t that old.
Now, it’s the dishwasher’s turn. I bought it 8 years ago, and at the time, was one of the best I could find....Kitchenaid, all stainless, touch panel controls. Not cheap (I think $800 at the time).
Fast forward to today, the touch panel is getting glitchy. Called Kitchenaid support (there’s irony in that statement). They said to clean the touch panel with 50-50 mix of vinegar and water. Done....5 times. Still no help.
Finally, thinking I am not going to eat the cost of a new dishwasher, I call a repair service.....$189 flat fee for any problem, plus parts. OK.....new touch panel is around $200 + $189 = $389. Yowza. Repair guy tells me this particular touch panel for Kitchenaid dishwashers (and presumably for any dishwasher by Whirlpool that uses it) has been problematic and I probably will be replacing it again in a few years. Harrumph.
I decide, after looking at YouTube videos, I can do this myself. Two screws to remove the top of the dishwasher to get to the touch panel. 8 more srews to remove the front stainless panel to get to the “plug” for the touch panel. Easy-peezy!
Not so fast. Removed the front panel and it’s clear there’s more to the problem than just the touch panel. There’s corrosion around the connector.. I take out the touchpad, clean the corrosion with baking soda and water, put it back together. Now, it doesn’t work at all. And, I have no idea what caused the corrosion.
Long and short of this, I’m tired of fooling with it. I could spend $400 to have a pro do it, but I still am faced with a panel that will probably fail sooner than later.
OK, new one is what I’m looking for. Lowes and Best Buy are offering free installation on their Bosch dishwashers. I’m not doing Kitchenaid, again.
Who out there knows anything about the reliability and performance of Bosch Dishwashers. Consumer reports likes them, but the end user reviews about them aren’t inspiring.
what the heck is an "OBII canister"??
I hope someone didn't sell you that one time along with headlight fluid and exhaust realignment.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Speaking of vacuums, about 10 years ago I bought a Hoover Widepath something or other, I chose it because it was supposedly heavy duty, used by people who clean for a living. It is bagless, but somewhat heavy and definitely not flashy. A decade later, and it still works like new, and it wasn't terribly expensive. When I was a kid, my mom bought an expensive Panasonic vacuum (I think because our neighbor owned the local store), she got about 20 years out of it. My grandma still has a 50s era Kirby, but I think it is too heavy for her to use much anymore. There are still quality products out there.
Every single one has some sort of thing going on. Ice Maker in the Fridge is iffy (has to be reset every few weeks and sometimes drips inside freezer), Microwave turntable works when it wants to, DW front panel seems loose. They all function and look new, but I'm so leary.
I think in the next two - three years I'll just bite the bullet and replace it all before it all goes haywire.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Unless you spring for a service contract (which I don’t), you do wind up getting hosed if an expensive part fails. Touchscreens seem to be tricky on lots of appliances. At least a new one should be quieter and more energy efficient.
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
Back in 2011 when I bought the house, I needed a stove, refrigerator, washer and dryer. I purchased everything used, from individuals, off Craigslist. The dryer and the stove have been perfect, I have made two small repairs to the washing machine, and paid for one repair to the refrigerator. I found a guy on Craigslist who does not have a storefront, works out of an old van, and repairs appliances. He came over the same day, took about 15 minutes to replace one small part on the refrigerator, and I paid him $110 in cash. He’s happy, I’m happy, and the refrigerator is still humming along more than 3 years later.
The same with my garage door. I “bumped it” with the truck about 4 years ago (don’t ask). I talked to two guys from Angie’s list, they wanted about $850 without an opener, $1200 with. I found a guy on Craigslist, he and his 2 brothers (I think they were brothers) showed up and installed a new garage door and opener (same brand name as the more expensive quotes), for $800 in cash. I had to use the translation software on my computer for part of the negotiations, but I’m happy, they’re happy, life marches on.
Fixing the broken part hopefully is easy. Eventually will get around to it. Until then, constant reminders to wife to be careful yanking the rack out. She’s the one that broke it in the first place
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Last year when I had a plumber over fixing a pipe he noticed the Mustang right away. Fortunately he had already quoted a price.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
As a motorcycle lover, particularly American made motorcycles, I hope they can weather this assault without having to compromise their integrity.
As to Kitchenaid same applies. Made by Whirlpool. The cable with the corrosion may be available at repairclinic.com or other parts houses. Repair Clinic has a $9.95 delivery charge.
@graphicguy
Try cleaning the corrosion with Dawn detergent ro remove greasy residue, then vinegar. See if the connection works then. Since washing with water (bicarbonate of soda may have helped a little), caused the connector contacts to lose other links, that may the whole source of your problem.
I bought extra door shelves for my Whirlpool on Amazon.
Searching the net may give you repair manuals telling how to take some appliances apart. There is a service diagnostic computer run. This blog entry on applianceblog.com mentions it. If you can search for your model number and find the service manual or a web site with the procedure and diagnostic codes, that might help. Soft of like troubleshooting a computer by the number of beeps when it would try to start up as an indication of what was not getting read correctly in old days.
https://www.kitchenaidparts.com/
https://www.repairclinic.com/UserManual/ffa437db24404318a693f64084009cba/KitchenAid-Dishwasher-Repair-Manual-KUDC02IRBL1-KUDC02IRWH1-KUDI02CRBL1-KUDI02CRBS1-KUDI02CRWH1-KUDI02FRBL1-KUDI02FRSS1-KUDI02FRWH1-KUDI02IRBL1-KUDI02IRBS1
The diagnostic procedure has to be run after parts replacement to "register" the parts with the main control computer. The guy on applianceblog.com sometimes links to a repair manual that service techs use.
The information for the diagnostic codes and procedure may be in the parts diagram that's in your dishwasher. Likely it's behind the lower panel that covers the bottom area after installation. Taped to it. Has parts blow up and then current part numbers and diag for the serviceguy.
https://www.applianceblog.com/mainforums/threads/65691-KUDC10FXSS5-control-panel-not-working
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
No, 20 years is not long enough. I sold Kirby vacuum cleaners door-to-door for a few months while I was in college, back around 1971. So more like 47 years, not 20. They were good products, I just wasn't much of a salesman, never was.
I hope someone didn't sell you that one time along with headlight fluid and exhaust realignment.
Nah. I meant an OBDII. Credit for being
somewhatclose on that?And no, never need an OBDII replaced in any of my rigs. I'm thinking plugs, plug wires and an oil change. My air filter's probably dirty, too, as I'm living in a hot and dusty environment over here.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I need some car expertise here - I'll share the whole story after I hear your thoughts (I'm looking at you @jmonroe and @qbrozen).
Person picks up a nail in the tire of their SUV. Dealer patches it temporarily, but tells person that it won't last and they need to replace the tire. No problem - person orders tire and picks it up at Tire Rack distribution center and then takes it to a local dealer for the vehicle brand and has it installed. About 50 miles later on the way home, vehicle starts shaking violently and is so unstable person pulls over. Vehicle is flatbed to the person's preferred and local dealership.
On arrival, is informed that 4 of 5 lugs are missing, the wheel, tire, hub, front brakes, and front suspension are trashed and that person is lucky the wheel didn't fly off the car.
I'm thinking the lugs weren't properly torqued and vibrated right out. What am I missing?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
That damage sounds a bit excessive. I would believe the wheel and the tire, maybe the hub and the rotor. Maybe.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I walk into an appliance store and see rows of boxes which mostly look identical. How old was your KA?
Years ago, back in my working days, A fellow worker laughed when I told him what I do when someone touches my wheels. He said I should deal with a more reputable inspection stations and tire shops. About 10 years later when I returned as a consultant, another fellow employee told me that this guy was coming down a ramp, about to merge onto an interstate, just after getting his car inspected, when his car started shaking violently like you described. I guess his inspection mechanic wasn't as good as he thought he was. So far, I'm as good at checking lug nuts as I ever was.
It only takes a couple minutes, if that, to check the lug nuts so I ALWAYS check them. Learning how to change a flat tire when I was a kid has come in handy in more ways than just changing a flat tire.
Good to hear that no one was injured.
FWIW, I've also passed my paranoia onto my sons.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Granted, it's easy to see if they left off any of the lug nuts. But checking the torque? Do you take your lug wrench, loosen, and re-tighten?
I could use that method to tell if they were really loose, or way too tight, but anything in between ...
On the financing if you will take a hit on your pension by receiving it early might I suggest taking out a low interest credit union loan for say 60 months and then when your pension matures pay the note off quickly. My CU is still at 2.59% for 60 months.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
KA was 10 years, worked OK but need two new racks and fixing the dispensor...
an older appliance guy at lowes said he preferred Bosch or KA to others; Bosch has > 50% US market and has better parts availability than KA; the independent we used service all brands and suggest Miele or Bosch
good luck
how is ASpec ?
On the financing if you will take a hit on your pension by receiving it early might I suggest taking out a low interest credit union loan for say 60 months and then when your pension matures pay the note off quickly. My CU is still at 2.59% for 60 months.
Thank you, oldfarmer50, yeah, since I have time to consider several car options as well as payment methods, I will take that into consideration. We're just lately starting to talk about when I should start drawing the Boeing pension, so there's room for improvement in there for our purchase plan. I am still thinking I want a new or newer car, but I do have an online Kia friend from Michigan whose Mom had a Kia Spectra, probably 2002 era or so, that she drove for over 600,000 miles. I kid you not. I can ask him the Spectra MY. I'm telling you guys, Kia makes a solid rig. I may not need another car, we shall see.
I'm not gonna lunge at anything too quickly.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Unfortunately, unless the wheel fell of or caused some damage to the car there's not much you can do legally. Back when it happened to me there was no Yelp or other social media to trash a bad business. Flame the heck out of this place and email him to tell him why.
EDIT: didn't read down to where you mentioned damage. In this case I would have the person's repair facility document the damage in writing and with pictures. Submit the bill to the offending store and sue in small claims if they won't pony up. After you get the money then burn them on social media.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
roadburner - thanks for that. I have lots of room for improvement when it comes to new (er) car mechanicals!
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Fortunately, I never had to do it again. The appliance dept. manager at the Sears store where we bought the DW agreed to replace it at full price including tax towards another DW of our choosing. Decided not to get another touch panel job so we got a Samsung with real buttons. No button failures yet but the main pump had to be replaced a second time within a month of the first try. This was about 5 years ago.
In my opinion, dishwashers are the least reliable appliances to have but since I ain't gonna wash dishes, I buy them. When we got the Samsung, I bought an extended warranty and it paid off with the pump replacements. It bugged the hell out of me to buy it but like I said it has paid for itself and I will probably buy another warranty for the next DW too.
Do like the service guy I talked to suggested. Get out a hair dryer and try it. It can't hurt. You can't break it twice.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Appreciate the advice, though!
Don't worry, I won't do that. I learned my lesson after you set me up a few years ago about telling a story over there to the mastermind @thecardoc3. Like I said to you before, after learning my lesson, "I OWE YOU FOR THAT". :@
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I also run the dishwasher overnight most of the time. On the few occasions I’ve run it in daytime, as long as I wait for the dry cycle to finish, it’s fine.
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere