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2019 BMW 430i and 440i MF, RV, and incentives

imsatimsat Member Posts: 15
edited November 2018 in BMW
Could you please help with the MF, RV, and incentives for 36 months/12k and 36 months/15K for the 430i and 440i?

Zip code: 78664

Trying to compare this and Audi 2018 A5 Sportback P+.

Thank you in advance :)
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    imsat said:

    Could you please help with the MF, RV, and incentives for 36 months/12k and 36 months/15K for the 430i and 440i?

    Zip code: 78664

    Trying to compare this and Audi 2018 A5 Sportback P+.

    Thank you in advance :)

    36/15
    .00182 MF and 54% residual
    $2000 lease credit on Gran Coupes
    $1000 lease credit on other 4-Series

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  • imsatimsat Member Posts: 15
    kyfdx said:

    imsat said:

    Could you please help with the MF, RV, and incentives for 36 months/12k and 36 months/15K for the 430i and 440i?

    Zip code: 78664

    Trying to compare this and Audi 2018 A5 Sportback P+.

    Thank you in advance :)

    36/15
    .00182 MF and 54% residual
    $2000 lease credit on Gran Coupes
    $1000 lease credit on other 4-Series
    Thank you. I'm looking for Gran Coupe vs A5 Sportback. Any recommendation ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    imsat said:

    kyfdx said:

    imsat said:

    Could you please help with the MF, RV, and incentives for 36 months/12k and 36 months/15K for the 430i and 440i?

    Zip code: 78664

    Trying to compare this and Audi 2018 A5 Sportback P+.

    Thank you in advance :)

    36/15
    .00182 MF and 54% residual
    $2000 lease credit on Gran Coupes
    $1000 lease credit on other 4-Series
    Thank you. I'm looking for Gran Coupe vs A5 Sportback. Any recommendation ?
    GC will lease way better than the SB.

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  • imsatimsat Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:

    imsat said:

    kyfdx said:

    imsat said:

    Could you please help with the MF, RV, and incentives for 36 months/12k and 36 months/15K for the 430i and 440i?

    Zip code: 78664

    Trying to compare this and Audi 2018 A5 Sportback P+.

    Thank you in advance :)

    36/15
    .00182 MF and 54% residual
    $2000 lease credit on Gran Coupes
    $1000 lease credit on other 4-Series
    Thank you. I'm looking for Gran Coupe vs A5 Sportback. Any recommendation ?
    GC will lease way better than the SB.
    Thank you :)

    Could you please also help with the finance rate and any promotion for 2019 430/440i Gran Coupe?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    imsat said:

    Michaell said:

    imsat said:

    kyfdx said:

    imsat said:

    Could you please help with the MF, RV, and incentives for 36 months/12k and 36 months/15K for the 430i and 440i?

    Zip code: 78664

    Trying to compare this and Audi 2018 A5 Sportback P+.

    Thank you in advance :)

    36/15
    .00182 MF and 54% residual
    $2000 lease credit on Gran Coupes
    $1000 lease credit on other 4-Series
    Thank you. I'm looking for Gran Coupe vs A5 Sportback. Any recommendation ?
    GC will lease way better than the SB.
    Thank you :)

    Could you please also help with the finance rate and any promotion for 2019 430/440i Gran Coupe?
    3.99% up to 72 months.
    $3500 incentive for finance

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  • imsatimsat Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2018
    kyfdx said:


    3.99% up to 72 months.
    $3500 incentive for finance

    Are these good price?
    - Which one to pick, so confused :s

    BMW 430i Gran Coupe=> $49K OTD (MSRP : $56K)
    - M Sport
    - 19" wheel
    - Dakota Leather
    - Head-up Display
    - HK Sound
    - Wireless Charging
    - Heated Steering wheel

    BMW 440i Gran Coupe => $56K OTD (MSRP : $62K)
    - M Sport
    - 19" wheel
    - Dakota Leather
    - Executive Package
    - HK Sound
    - Wireless Charging
    - Heated Steering wheel
    - S.S. Pedals
    - Black Kidney Grills

    Also, have a quote of Audi A5 Sportback Premium + => $50K OTD (MSRP : $54K)
    - Premium Plus
    - Navigation Package
    - S Line Sport Package
    - 19" wheel
    - B&O Sound
    - Cold weather Package
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    imsat said:

    kyfdx said:


    3.99% up to 72 months.
    $3500 incentive for finance

    Are these good price?
    - Which one to pick, so confused :s

    BMW 430i Gran Coupe=> $49K OTD (MSRP : $56K)
    - M Sport
    - 19" wheel
    - Dakota Leather
    - Head-up Display
    - HK Sound
    - Wireless Charging
    - Heated Steering wheel

    BMW 440i Gran Coupe => $56K OTD (MSRP : $62K)
    - M Sport
    - 19" wheel
    - Dakota Leather
    - Executive Package
    - HK Sound
    - Wireless Charging
    - Heated Steering wheel
    - S.S. Pedals
    - Black Kidney Grills

    Also, have a quote of Audi A5 Sportback Premium + => $50K OTD (MSRP : $54K)
    - Premium Plus
    - Navigation Package
    - S Line Sport Package
    - 19" wheel
    - B&O Sound
    - Cold weather Package
    Have you test driven these? Does one appeal to you more than the others?

    We don't track pricing; use this link to help:
    https://www.edmunds.com/tmv.html

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  • imsatimsat Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:
    3.99% up to 72 months. $3500 incentive for finance
    Are these good price? - Which one to pick, so confused :s BMW 430i Gran Coupe=> $49K OTD (MSRP : $56K) - M Sport - 19" wheel - Dakota Leather - Head-up Display - HK Sound - Wireless Charging - Heated Steering wheel BMW 440i Gran Coupe => $56K OTD (MSRP : $62K) - M Sport - 19" wheel - Dakota Leather - Executive Package - HK Sound - Wireless Charging - Heated Steering wheel - S.S. Pedals - Black Kidney Grills Also, have a quote of Audi A5 Sportback Premium + => $50K OTD (MSRP : $54K) - Premium Plus - Navigation Package - S Line Sport Package - 19" wheel - B&O Sound - Cold weather Package
    Have you test driven these? Does one appeal to you more than the others? We don't track pricing; use this link to help: https://www.edmunds.com/tmv.html

    Technology - A5 is better.
    Driving - 440i is better.

    430i is ok ok.

    not sure about the service and maintenance though or the reliability.
  • thegreythegrey Member Posts: 37
    Hi, I'm looking at at getting a 2019 430i GC, for around 46,000 cap cost. Can you please share the MF and residual for a 12/36 lease? What would the monthly payments be if nothing is paid upfront? zip code is 07631, new jersey.

    thanks a lot.

    a
  • thegreythegrey Member Posts: 37
    also - can you please give me the monthly lease price with and without max multiple security deposits?

    thanks again
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    thegrey said:

    Hi, I'm looking at at getting a 2019 430i GC, for around 46,000 cap cost. Can you please share the MF and residual for a 12/36 lease? What would the monthly payments be if nothing is paid upfront? zip code is 07631, new jersey.

    thanks a lot.

    a

    thegrey said:

    also - can you please give me the monthly lease price with and without max multiple security deposits?

    thanks again

    .00182 and 56%
    $2500 lease credit

    Need to know the MSRP to calculate a payment.

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  • thegreythegrey Member Posts: 37
    MSRP is $48,695. Actually I found the same car listed for $45,135, but given the given the lease credit and invoice price, I will likely be able to get it at $44,345 (1,000 over invoice price, plus lease credits.) Can you please share the lease price if no money down for those two prices? with and without max multiple security deposits?

    thank you again,

    a
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    thegrey said:

    MSRP is $48,695. Actually I found the same car listed for $45,135, but given the given the lease credit and invoice price, I will likely be able to get it at $44,345 (1,000 over invoice price, plus lease credits.) Can you please share the lease price if no money down for those two prices? with and without max multiple security deposits?

    thank you again,

    a

    $925 acquisition fee
    $300 NJ DMV
    $400 dealer doc fee
    $1600 tax

    $47,570 adjusted CAP

    $700/mo, with first payment due at signing.

    Residuals aren't very good on the 4-series.

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  • thegreythegrey Member Posts: 37
    Thank you - is that 700/mo with the decreased money factor from the MSD?

    Seems so high - back in 2014 I leased a 50,000$ 4 series coupe for 450/mo after MSD!
  • thegreythegrey Member Posts: 37
    also - is the acquisition fee the same as the destination charge?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    thegrey said:

    Thank you - is that 700/mo with the decreased money factor from the MSD?

    Seems so high - back in 2014 I leased a 50,000$ 4 series coupe for 450/mo after MSD!

    No.. I didn't factor in MSDs. The programs aren't national anymore, and no way to know if they are available in your area. If so, .00035 reduction would knock $25-$30/mo off the payment.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    thegrey said:

    also - is the acquisition fee the same as the destination charge?

    No.. the destination fee is part of the price.
    The acquisition fee is a lease specific fee charged by the bank.

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  • thegreythegrey Member Posts: 37
    as always, thanks a lot.
  • czar0013czar0013 Member Posts: 18
    Can I please have January info for 430ix GC, 36/12K & 36/15K? Res., MF, incentives?
    Thanks,
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    czar0013 said:

    Can I please have January info for 430ix GC, 36/12K & 36/15K? Res., MF, incentives?
    Thanks,

    What ZIP?

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  • czar0013czar0013 Member Posts: 18
    Sorry. For NJ
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    czar0013 said:

    Can I please have January info for 430ix GC, 36/12K & 36/15K? Res., MF, incentives?
    Thanks,

    czar0013 said:

    Sorry. For NJ

    36/15
    .00188 MF and 54% residual
    $2500 incentive

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  • tkttkt Member Posts: 5
    Hi everyone, what do you guys think of this deal I got from the dealer? I use an online calculator, but it doesn't seem to round up

    2019 430i GC to order before my end of lease in 3/2019. https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/build/summary/dtu81jar

    Total Build Price: $48,925 on BMW build site. Quote from the dealer as follows
    $5000 in rebates
    $4125 discount

    location zip: 91801 (Los Angeles, California)
    3yrs/15k
    $2000 total due at signing
    $565 including tax

    no MSDs included in the quote, but I plan to get it as I currently have them on my current lease. I'm new to this forum, so any help is GREATLY appreciated! Thank you!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    tkt said:

    Hi everyone, what do you guys think of this deal I got from the dealer? I use an online calculator, but it doesn't seem to round up

    2019 430i GC to order before my end of lease in 3/2019. https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/build/summary/dtu81jar

    Total Build Price: $48,925 on BMW build site. Quote from the dealer as follows
    $5000 in rebates
    $4125 discount

    location zip: 91801 (Los Angeles, California)
    3yrs/15k
    $2000 total due at signing
    $565 including tax

    no MSDs included in the quote, but I plan to get it as I currently have them on my current lease. I'm new to this forum, so any help is GREATLY appreciated! Thank you!

    .00188 and 54%

    If I use $39,800 as the cap cost, I get $496/mo plus tax.

    You need to get the CAP cost the dealer used for their quote, and a full breakdown of what the $2000 up front covers. We recommend you pay only the first payment and DMV costs at signing.

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  • tkttkt Member Posts: 5
    Thanks Michaell! I really appreciate the help! This is what I got back from the dealer regarding cap cost and up front amount:

    "Cap Cost is $44,800 which is $4125 off the MSRP of the car build you sent me. The $2000 due at signing goes towards cap reduction since the $5000 in rebates is enough to cover your drive off costs. You can do $0 due at signing but you'll need to add roughly $60 to the monthly payments quoted."

    Is this is a decent deal to you? Also, would going with $2000 option be better since I assume it would save a few bucks on the monthly CA tax?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    tkt said:

    Thanks Michaell! I really appreciate the help! This is what I got back from the dealer regarding cap cost and up front amount:

    "Cap Cost is $44,800 which is $4125 off the MSRP of the car build you sent me. The $2000 due at signing goes towards cap reduction since the $5000 in rebates is enough to cover your drive off costs. You can do $0 due at signing but you'll need to add roughly $60 to the monthly payments quoted."

    Is this is a decent deal to you? Also, would going with $2000 option be better since I assume it would save a few bucks on the monthly CA tax?

    Thanks!

    I'd ask for the breakdown of the drive off costs, if they total $5000

    It's a big financial commitment to not know every last detail of the deal.

    I'd skip the $2000 drive off, and limit the out of pocket to just the first payment and DMV costs.

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  • tkttkt Member Posts: 5
    Hi Michaell,

    This is what I got from them. Please see attached image... 
    If the image fails... He had the items as follows:

    Cap reduction $4324.01
    Acq. Fee $925
    Licensing fees $587
    Doc fee $85
    Govt fee $7
    Cap reduction tax $410.78
    Misc tax $95.95 (?) 
    First payment $565.26
    TOTAL DRIVE OFF $7000

    For the "How it can as paid" portion, I'm not sure what it is... 
    Cap reduction $4324.01
    Customer cash $2000
    Rebate $5000
    Min drive off $2675.99

    Again, I appreciate all your insight thus far. You're amazing!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    tkt said:

    Hi Michaell,

    This is what I got from them. Please see attached image... 
    If the image fails... He had the items as follows:

    Cap reduction $4324.01
    Acq. Fee $925
    Licensing fees $587
    Doc fee $85
    Govt fee $7
    Cap reduction tax $410.78
    Misc tax $95.95 (?) 
    First payment $565.26
    TOTAL DRIVE OFF $7000

    For the "How it can as paid" portion, I'm not sure what it is... 
    Cap reduction $4324.01
    Customer cash $2000
    Rebate $5000
    Min drive off $2675.99

    Again, I appreciate all your insight thus far. You're amazing!

    OK, that helps greatly.

    They are asking for so much from you to make the payment seem smaller. But, it doesn't change the total cost of the lease.

    Again, I'd recommend you pay only the license costs (DMV) and the first payment out of pocket - add the other fees and such to the monthly payment.

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  • tkttkt Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2019
    So, in our expert opinion, it's a fairly good deal to proceed? He seems nice enough provide me with all that info, but then I'm might be just too naive to this art haha.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    tkt said:

    So, in our expert opinion, it's a fairly good deal to proceed? He seems nice enough provide me with all that info, but then I'm might be just too naive to this art haha.

    If you're comfortable with the discount from sticker - use this link to help with your research:

    https://www.edmunds.com/tmv.html

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  • tkttkt Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for all your info Michaell! I truly appreciate it!
  • nfsnfs Member Posts: 54
    Hello,

    Can you please provide the MF, RV and any incentives for 2019 440 GC. Zip - 02090

    12k/24mo and 12k/36mo

    Thanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    nfs said:

    Hello,

    Can you please provide the MF, RV and any incentives for 2019 440 GC. Zip - 02090

    12k/24mo and 12k/36mo

    Thanks again.

    .00188 and 62% / 56%
    $2000 lease credit

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  • bygreen63bygreen63 Member Posts: 2
    Can you please provide the MF, RV and any incentives for 2019 430i  GC. Zip - 75248?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    bygreen63 said:

    Can you please provide the MF, RV and any incentives for 2019 430i  GC. Zip - 75248?

    36/15
    .00177 and 54%
    $1750 lease cash

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  • EM305EM305 Member Posts: 89
    MF and RV on 430i x drive and 440i xdrive 36/15k for 08871. Please list any incentives. Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    EM305 said:

    MF and RV on 430i x drive and 440i xdrive 36/15k for 08871. Please list any incentives. Thanks.

    .00177 and 54%
    $2250 lease credit

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  • Jeremy1980Jeremy1980 Member Posts: 5
    Hi, can you please provide MF, incentives & RV on 440i xdrive grand coupe 36/10k for zip code 11375. Thanks in Advance.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997

    Hi, can you please provide MF, incentives & RV on 440i xdrive grand coupe 36/10k for zip code 11375. Thanks in Advance.

    .00177 and 57%
    $2250 lease credit

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  • Jeremy1980Jeremy1980 Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for the info. My current de Lear’s hip sent me an early upgrade offer (5mos early) with $11,084 worth of incentives ($4750 BMW Loyalty Credit And $6334 BMW Preferred Customer Bonus). My question is are all these incentives gonna be deducted from the MSRP or do I still need to negotiate the Selling price then apply said incentives? Total 11K Incentives seemed to good to be true. Thanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997

    Thanks for the info. My current de Lear’s hip sent me an early upgrade offer (5mos early) with $11,084 worth of incentives ($4750 BMW Loyalty Credit And $6334 BMW Preferred Customer Bonus). My question is are all these incentives gonna be deducted from the MSRP or do I still need to negotiate the Selling price then apply said incentives? Total 11K Incentives seemed to good to be true. Thanks again.

    I suspect the Preferred Customer Bonus is the dealer discount from MSRP.

    What's the old saying? If something looks too good to be true, it probably is.

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  • CarBuyer2019TNCarBuyer2019TN Member Posts: 16
    440i Grand Coupe RWD 37919
    36/15
    39/15

    Any incentives/rebates for current BMW and Jaguar owner?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    440i Grand Coupe RWD 37919
    36/15
    39/15

    Any incentives/rebates for current BMW and Jaguar owner?

    36/15
    .00177 MF and 54% residual
    $1750 lease credit
    $2500 loyalty

    39 months is not supported

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  • Orangeman96Orangeman96 Member Posts: 84
    Hello
    Can you kindly provide MF Resid Incentives for 2019 440i grand coupe awd zipcode 07920 for 36mo/12k miles. 36mo/15k miles.

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760

    Hello
    Can you kindly provide MF Resid Incentives for 2019 440i grand coupe awd zipcode 07920 for 36mo/12k miles. 36mo/15k miles.

    Thanks!

    36/15
    .00177 MF and 54% residual
    $2250 lease credit

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  • Jeremy1980Jeremy1980 Member Posts: 5
    Hello again,

    Can you please provide for month of April MF, incentives & RV on 440i xdrive gran coupe 36/10k for zip code 11375. Thanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997

    Hello again,

    Can you please provide for month of April MF, incentives & RV on 440i xdrive gran coupe 36/10k for zip code 11375. Thanks again.

    .00177 and 57%
    $2250 lease credit

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  • EM305EM305 Member Posts: 89
    edited April 2019
    MF ad RV on 430 and 440 GC. 36/12 and 36/15 please. Also list any incentives (don't know if there's a difference in new vs loaner/demo with the MF and/or RV). zip 08871. If BMW gives 24 month leases I'd like those numbers too. Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,997
    EM305 said:

    MF ad RV on 430 and 440 GC. 36/12 and 36/15 please. Also list any incentives (don't know if there's a difference in new vs loaner/demo with the MF and/or RV). zip 08871. If BMW gives 24 month leases I'd like those numbers too. Thanks.

    36/15
    .00177 and 54%
    $2250 lease credit

    Add 6% for 24/15

    RV adjusts based on miles - how many does the car have?

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  • EM305EM305 Member Posts: 89
    Michaell said:

    EM305 said:

    MF ad RV on 430 and 440 GC. 36/12 and 36/15 please. Also list any incentives (don't know if there's a difference in new vs loaner/demo with the MF and/or RV). zip 08871. If BMW gives 24 month leases I'd like those numbers too. Thanks.

    36/15
    .00177 and 54%
    $2250 lease credit

    Add 6% for 24/15

    RV adjusts based on miles - how many does the car have?
    4669 miles and the sale price is $44,995. What are we thinking on this?
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