SoA figured Patti was getting too powerful, and indeed sent her back into the dungeon. I've been throwing down some gilled Turbot on Rally Bread, so she won't starve before we hit 11,000 posts.
H class is where you should be. Luckily in NASA the rims will only give you points (I think 2 points). When you reach 15 points, you get bumped to G-class. I'm gonna contact Joe Lee the classing guru over there and suggest they put the outback in H. The RS carries a 5point penalty in it's class as well.
I'm so sorry folks. All of your kind words and all and I missed your special treat!
We got hit with an awful storm last night. Our phone system was hit along with my PC. I've been working on these situations all day. Thanks to a certain "BlueSubie" for a heads up!
Thank you all for a fun read! See you on the chat tonight?
Actually Patti, you get a "10" for your 2 years' worth of effort, and the guy who helped get you out of the dungeon to post that was Agent 007. :-)
Hope we can get a word in edge wise in the Forester chat! Did they notify 6 million people again this time? Poor Edmunds had to handle 400+ guests last time.
I haven't been able to get on the last 3 (4?) weeks, but I think I've finally figured it out. I think there has been a change in my firewall setting so I'll disable it and try to join in tonight.
mailing for this chat! Only you, who are near and dear to our hearts. I'm not going ot be chatting with you or participating tonight. I'll just hang back and enjoy the ride!
I'll be meeting some scooby owners in the flesh tonight (probably 40 of em) out in Long Island @ the Hooters near Nassau Colleseum so I won't be making it.
I found the host's link from the Forester topic. No oil cooler on the manual tranny, so we still can't explain the extra 400 lbs towing capacity. He also said no VTD/Shiftronic for the Forester, that the performance models would get that (but oddly, not the auto WRX).
"Subaru still plans to offer a third row 7 passenger vehicle but will do so solely on its own and rest assured, it will be a crossover type of vehicle"
Whoa, wait a minute. No Forester turbo, no shiftronic in Forester, no shiftronic in AT WRX (where it has resided in JDM from the get-go)? While Hyundai gets it? What is there for me to "graduate" into? Better be a B4 or Blitzen-type Legacy wagon.
we'd love to NOT have to get a mini-van (or at least I would love NOT to). however, we may need to go that route sooner than Subaru would. Her Saturn is just getting way to small for us now, and that's with only 1 kid! And I'd rather not settle on the '04 2.5GT, since there HAS to be something up Subaru's sleeve that they won't let out until the '05 debuts.
edit: Ed, I don't think so. There is an auto EVO sedan though. I haven't heard about the STi wagon for the US (or even officially the sedan). But I think the WRX Wagon demand took them by surprise.
Didn't learn a whole lot, other than the 7-passanger crossover is still alive, which is good news. I bet it will be much like the Forester, only scaled up a bit.
I'm OK with that, cause I'll take a WRX wagon (manual) to haul @$$ and that SUW to haul the kids.
And don't wait until 2005! GM is sssslooooooow! Subaru is lithe, quick. Stretch the Outback by a foot and make it taller, add a 3rd row. Make the H6 standard, offer a supercharger for us nutty Crew members. Bam. 2004.
the penalty boxes they used to be. I am amazed by the way my '02 Odyssey handles. It feels incredibly nimble in the twisties, and is very manageable around town. While I love my '02 OBW, the van is the choice for long trips and gobs of cargo.
we've driven (and actually liked) the '02 MPV. While not as huge as the other minivans, it would suit us well. And like you said, it does handle/drive quite well - I was shocked that I actually *gulp* liked it a bit.
It's OK Steve, you don't have to defend yourself. ;-)
Actually, I was accepting them, my wife was the one that objected.
I agree with Bob, the chat was good in that we got all our questions asked, at least. Not all were answered, but most were, and the ones that weren't were purely about future products.
Missed it again. Frustrating as this is one of the rare occassions where I am at home on Friday and can join in.
Karen, is it possible to put a clock on some pages so those of who live in far flung parts can see what time it is for Edmunds. From here in Australia, it is usually a random event if I can get onto the chat because of trying to figure out what time it is for you.
I was deep into a very intellectual game of Candyland during chat time, so let me get this straight.....
There isn't going to be a turbo Forrester EVER? That's crazy. That's disappointing. The Subaru designed crossover vehicle is very interesting, but that a ways out. I feel like we won't see a turbo Legacy until MY2006 at the earliest, and, like some have said, I may not be able to wait that long. Dang.
If there's no turbo Forester then I would likewise doubt a turbo Legacy. both are going to need power upgrades to stay with the market. Legacy is obviously already behind, but the Forester's car-like SUV competition doesn't have an edge yet. More powerful SUVs the size of the Forester are pretty much all truckish.
Anyway I forsee six cylinders in both of their futures.
That's interesting because Subaru in Australia are saying that the Turbo version of the 2003 Forester will be released probably in Q3 2003 with the gruntier 2.5l engine and will be badged XT. The 2002 version had the 2.0l engine and moved like stink. Very popular here!
I just went back to the Subaru of Australia Website (www.subaru.com.au ) and found the news release on 28 February 2002 that advised of the anticipated release date for the replacement turbo Forester as late next year. I wonder if it is not listed for the US because of lower fuel octanes?
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I'm not sure if you run in G or H class though. I'd say H class even though you have the 2.5l engine, it's heavy and higher center of gravity.
-mike
-mike
-Brian
I put in for H, since I view the Outback as a "Non-Performance".
Where will they put me if I ran with the RS rims?
-Dave
SoA figured Patti was getting too powerful, and indeed sent her back into the dungeon. I've been throwing down some gilled Turbot on Rally Bread, so she won't starve before we hit 11,000 posts.
-juice
-mike
We got hit with an awful storm last night. Our phone system was hit along with my PC. I've been working on these situations all day. Thanks to a certain "BlueSubie" for a heads up!
Thank you all for a fun read! See you on the chat tonight?
Patti
I handle my cert proudly.
Hope we can get a word in edge wise in the Forester chat! Did they notify 6 million people again this time? Poor Edmunds had to handle 400+ guests last time.
-juice
-Frank P.
KarenS
Host
Owners Clubs
Ross
See you tonight!
Patti
-mike
Anyone in yet?
-juice
-Brian
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-Brian
-juice
"Subaru still plans to offer a third row 7 passenger vehicle but will do so solely on its own and rest assured, it will be a crossover type of vehicle"
Aaaaah, no minivan for me, never!
-juice
Ed
-Brian
I've been saying it over and over. Just revise the Exiga concept for a minivan. Subaru is losing sales by the hundreds without a 7 passenger vehicle.
-Dennis
Patti
Patti
Steve
Ed
I haven't heard about the STi wagon for the US (or even officially the sedan). But I think the WRX Wagon demand took them by surprise.
-Dennis
Bob
And don't wait until 2005! GM is sssslooooooow! Subaru is lithe, quick. Stretch the Outback by a foot and make it taller, add a 3rd row. Make the H6 standard, offer a supercharger for us nutty Crew members. Bam. 2004.
-juice
-Brian
Ross
Well - time to chill. Chat with you all tomorrow!
Patti
Bob
Steve
Bob
-Brian
Actually, I was accepting them, my wife was the one that objected.
I agree with Bob, the chat was good in that we got all our questions asked, at least. Not all were answered, but most were, and the ones that weren't were purely about future products.
And that dungeon is cold. Brrr.
-juice
Missed it again. Frustrating as this is one of the rare occassions where I am at home on Friday and can join in.
Karen, is it possible to put a clock on some pages so those of who live in far flung parts can see what time it is for Edmunds. From here in Australia, it is usually a random event if I can get onto the chat because of trying to figure out what time it is for you.
Thanks
Graham
Traded the 'road/racer' bike for a 'comfort' model. Wagons and minivans rather than two door coupes. See a pattern here?
Steve
-Brian
Bob
-mike
There isn't going to be a turbo Forrester EVER? That's crazy. That's disappointing. The Subaru designed crossover vehicle is very interesting, but that a ways out. I feel like we won't see a turbo Legacy until MY2006 at the earliest, and, like some have said, I may not be able to wait that long. Dang.
Jim
Anyway I forsee six cylinders in both of their futures.
-Colin
That's interesting because Subaru in Australia are saying that the Turbo version of the 2003 Forester will be released probably in Q3 2003 with the gruntier 2.5l engine and will be badged XT. The 2002 version had the 2.0l engine and moved like stink. Very popular here!
Cheers
Graham
I just went back to the Subaru of Australia Website (www.subaru.com.au ) and found the news release on 28 February 2002 that advised of the anticipated release date for the replacement turbo Forester as late next year. I wonder if it is not listed for the US because of lower fuel octanes?
Cheers
Graham