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Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,264
    Speaking of project cars, here is an interesting one that surely is a project:

    https://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/mysterious-merc-one-coachwork-sale


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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    xwesx said:



    Apparently not; it worked for the seller of Q's Coronet, right? :D

    I can't be sure the problem wasn't caused by throwing the belt and overheating it early in my ownership.

    :p

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,328
    odd thing. Interested to see what that goes for. Not bad looking, but those Mirrors look atrocious. Not a good selection there.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    edited January 2019
    That reminds me, I think Classic and Sportscar stopped giving out a free yearly calendar, something I had used as an excuse to buy a copy for years. Not included in copies locally, anyway.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well with unidentified coachwork and a lazy Mercedes engine rather than the Lancia V-6, I'm wondering if this car is a bit of a pig in a poke. It's not unattractive, and seems well done, but what it is, really? Kind of a [non-permissible content removed].

    It will be interesting to see what kind of money it brings. Certainly it will be something of an attention-getter, but whether it's worth a huge bid or not---I'm not so sure it is. Certainly it should not sell for more than a stock 220 coupe in similar condition.

  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,595
    edited January 2019
    Be honest, Shifty. Did you actually get bounced for non-permissible content or was that your own contribution, similar to clever use of symbols to replace characters? If the latter, let me say 'well done'.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    bhill2 said:

    Be honest, Shifty. Did you actually get bounced for non-permissible content or was that your own contribution, similar to clever use of symbols to replace characters? If the latter, let me say 'well done'.

    Apparently I'm not seeing what you're seeing. I suppose I could get bounced just like anyone else. I often THINK non-permissible content but rarely post it. :p
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    edited January 2019
    Mr_Shiftright said:
    Be honest, Shifty. Did you actually get bounced for non-permissible content or was that your own contribution, similar to clever use of symbols to replace characters? If the latter, let me say 'well done'.
    Apparently I'm not seeing what you're seeing. I suppose I could get bounced just like anyone else. I often THINK non-permissible content but rarely post it. :p
    This is what we are seeing:

    Well with unidentified coachwork and a lazy Mercedes engine rather than the Lancia V-6, I'm wondering if this car is a bit of a pig in a poke. It's not unattractive, and seems well done, but what it is, really? Kind of a [non-permissible content removed]. 

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,676
    edited January 2019
    A word that sounds a lot like "sheetshow" is what came to mind as I read that.... :D
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    xwesx said:

    A word that sounds a lot like "sheetshow" is what came to mind as I read that.... :D

    OHHHHH....I remember....I said it was kind of a bast..... (an illegitimate child). Well, now, I cry "foul" on the censor robot. I was using the term in the traditional fashion. I wonder if the "ized" version of the word, as in bastardized, would pass?
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,105
    It did!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think the term fits that car. It's not a BAD thing, like say a "Frankencar", but the term bastardized suggests decisions like putting a Chevy engine in an old Ford, or wire wheels on a VW. Neither "thing" is bad--but they just don't go together. If you coachbuild a sports coupe with Lancia lines, you should power it up appropriately.

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    decisions like putting a Chevy engine in an old Ford

    What, isn't that called resto-mod B)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Sure, people do it all the time, but some call it heresy. Old Ford hot rod should have a flattie powering it.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,264
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    Sure, people do it all the time, but some call it heresy. Old Ford hot rod should have a flattie powering it.

    The restomod types start by putting a LS engine in everything. A lot of them stop there. Others don't but probably should have. :@

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Cheap HP, that's for sure. You can buy a boatload of ponies for a mere $4K. It's an American thing. Euro and Japanese hot rods are done in a totally different mindset.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,923
    So I went to a Cars n' Coffee in San Diego by a company called "The Vault."

    Apparently, they are nothing but a glorified warehouse turned into a giant garage with a kitchen and bar and big screen TV's, and a lounge/pool table, and big pizza oven.

    So I'm guessing this is a garage storage lot for people with too much money to park their beloved cars that either don't have room at home or are not wife-approved to be parked at home.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    Seattle has one of those - with rates about 3x what it costs to store the fintail.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,328
    $350 a month it looks like. But, at least you get some fun perks.

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    So do these cars n' bars warehouses need a liquor license?
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    60 second CL browse produces 2 goodies:

    Best pic ever - apparently taken from inside the shell of a Buick woody

    These are quite thin on the ground today
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,328
    BMW, good enough for me! At least it’s cheap.

    I love those old LUVs. Haven’t seen one in years.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,676
    fintail said:



    Best pic ever - apparently taken from inside the shell of a Buick woody

    Hahahah! Wow; what a way to market a "ran when parked" rat.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,419
    So, it's not really a Cars n Coffee.. It's just a commercial enterprise, selling car storage? Bet you'd meet a lot of great guys, there. :o

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,066
    stickguy said:

    BMW, good enough for me! At least it’s cheap.

    I love those old LUVs. Haven’t seen one in years.

    I learned to drive a stick shift on a LUV owned by a friend. Bright yellow, pretty well modded (for the late 70's, at least)

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,923
    kyfdx said:

    So, it's not really a Cars n Coffee.. It's just a commercial enterprise, selling car storage? Bet you'd meet a lot of great guys, there. :o

    It was a pretty legit car meetup. They must have advertised a lot. Essentially, giving out free breakfast pizza, free coffee, and having an open house to showcase their product. They got a lot of cars to show up.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    Getting nice bids already, and one can see why - maybe the best car on the market that peak malaise model year.

    Regarding the car meetup, if it isn't like the fake Cars & Coffee in my area (restrictions on what can attend, mostly a show off-fest for tech and financebros, lucky generationers, and imported money launderers), it is good, free food makes it better.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,718
    I kind of consider this as making lemonade out of lemons.
    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/fury/2224064.html?refer=home#&gid=1&pid=4
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,328
    odd choice to spend that much time and money on, but seems well done. I can't see spending $110,000 on though. Nicer than stock, that is for sure!

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    A near miss, but it does have curb appeal. Just needs to get rid of silly wheels and goofy shifter. I like it!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    Looks like someone is trying to recoup part of a massive expenditure. Good luck!
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think it could be from today's Toyota design staff. Actually, probably looks better in that black knight look than the original.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,264
    fintail said:

    Looks like someone is trying to recoup part of a massive expenditure. Good luck!

    He's going to need lotsa luck. Maybe save it for next year's B-J Scottsdale, surely some liquored-up old rich guy might pay big bucks for that. :@

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    edited February 2019
    I wonder what he has into it, probably a bit more than asking. Maybe not the way I would use resources.
    ab348 said:

    fintail said:

    Looks like someone is trying to recoup part of a massive expenditure. Good luck!

    He's going to need lotsa luck. Maybe save it for next year's B-J Scottsdale, surely some liquored-up old rich guy might pay big bucks for that. :@
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,105
    Gotta be a REAL narrow market for that beast...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    It could possibly sell for around $60K-$70K. You'd have to be a big name builder, I think, to get much more than that for it.
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    explorerx4 said:

    I kind of consider this as making lemonade out of lemons.
    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/fury/2224064.html?refer=home#&gid=1&pid=4

    Must sell. Headliner got sued.
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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    This '60 Fury convertible sold at just under $60k. 413 cross ram engine, record player (!) and the period Jetson style weirdness that I liked as a kid.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I'd much rather spend my 60K weirdo Mopar money on that red one.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,264
    fintail said:

    I'd much rather spend my 60K weirdo Mopar money on that red one.

    Indeed! The other one is just an example of writing lots of checks .

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,718
    I do love the bizzaro of that red convertible.
    Wouldn't buy it because I'd be worried about skateboarder grabbing onto the fins. :)
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    Square steering wheel...

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    They also had a dash top mounted rear mirror and often driver's third of bench seat had an elevated back on upper trim models. IIRC it was the first year of frequent usage of the toilet seat embossed on the trunk lid too. I think a few earlier upscale models had that trunk effect also though, like some Imperials. Sputnik influence perhaps B)
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    If the BTTF reboot happens I hope they use a 1960 Fury. Might explain some of the dashboard pods in the present/future. Or the present/past.



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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    edited February 2019
    MB is really jumping on the screen pod thing. This is the production model A-class sedan:

    image
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,676
    fintail said:

    MB is really jumping on the screen pod thing. This is the production model A-class sedan:

    image

    I just don't see how these things can possibly have the longevity of analog. I have a lot of LCD monitors that are ten+ years old and get a lot of use, but not in the environment that the interior of a car sees!
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,066
    xwesx said:

    fintail said:

    MB is really jumping on the screen pod thing. This is the production model A-class sedan:

    image

    I just don't see how these things can possibly have the longevity of analog. I have a lot of LCD monitors that are ten+ years old and get a lot of use, but not in the environment that the interior of a car sees!
    Probably a half dozen screws and a single connector.

    Likely a $1500 part and as many labor hours as the dealer can get away with.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,676
    Michaell said:

    Likely a $1500 part and as many labor hours as the dealer can get away with.

    Hah! Yes, exactly! :'(
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    edited February 2019
    xwesx said:
    MB is really jumping on the screen pod thing. This is the production model A-class sedan:
    I just don't see how these things can possibly have the longevity of analog. I have a lot of LCD monitors that are ten+ years old and get a lot of use, but not in the environment that the interior of a car sees!
    But I bet they shaved 3 pounds and 30 seconds of assemby time on each car while increasing the MSRP $1k because it looks snazzy! Cha-ching! 

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I like the full digital gauges in a way, if one is really wanting to have a very modern car, but when the car is 10+ years old, maybe not so much.
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