Subaru Crew - Meet The Members II

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  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Mark Wan is re-launching AutoZine, woohoo! Long time Edmunds readers have seen my posts referring to his website. The Technical section is thorough; I like it because it covers a multitude of technologies and manufacturers. Here's the Subaru section (remember, it hasn't been updated since July 2000). Check it out. You won't be sorry.

    ..Mike

    PS - Hmm, I hope this isn't going to be a cruel April Fool's joke.

    The following appeared in a pop-up that appears after a somewhat lengthy period.
    --
    AutoZine is coming back!
    Dear Car Enthusiasts,
    After 3 quarters of rest, I have decided to relaunch AutoZine on 1st April.

    During this period, many readers continued asking me to revive AutoZine as it is still the only source for global new cars with high-quality reports since its death in last July. I was quite affected by their words but the biggest obstacle preventing me from committing myself back to the site was still two factors: Time and Motivation.

    On the one hand, having achieved all I desired with this site, I don't want to spend as much time and effort to keep running this site without any new target. On the other hand, I did feel a bit lost after quitting the work I committed in the last 3 and a half years. Suddenly found myself cannot remember clearly the details about new cars, not just once but from time to time. If you don't keep moving, you're likely to get behind !

    So the new target of reviving AutoZine is: to keep myself in the forefront of the automotive world.

    That's the Motivation. Concerning Time, I know I must not spend as much time as before, otherwise one day I'll be exhausted and quit again. To do this, I decided to change AutoZine to monthly basis, perhaps simply called "AutoZine Monthly". Once a month. Update accurately on 1st of each month. Maybe not a good news to you, but you have to accept that.

    Besides, I hope I'll write in a more self-entertaining style, so perhaps less educational materials. You know, this is important to keep myself happy rather than suffering while doing it.

    In short, the new AutoZine will be more an E-zine for myself than for you guys. However, I hope you'll also enjoy it.

    Now it's time for me to chase back the time lost and get my new cars archive updated. See you next month.

    Best Regards,

    Mark Wan

    ..Mike

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yep a 3.0l H6 TT would be sweet, except keep a similar body to the old SVX!

    -mike
  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    there is a Langara student who is grateful to you. As a result of your question re: exam during quake I told her that adjustments could be made if her performance returned to it's previous level and that you stimulated the idea. She won't be sending you flower's however, I didn't identify you by name. :(

    Ross
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    You could send her drew's # :)

    -mike

    College co-ed rock :)
  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    you are a dirty young man, but the answer is a definite YES if I'm any judge.

    Ross
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    I read Autozine quite a lot, and hope it isn't an April Fools joke.

    -Colin
  • soon2bsubeesoon2bsubee Member Posts: 137
    Yes folks, the boys are back in town !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    FORMULA 1 RETURNS !!

    Here is the Speedvision schedule for this weekend(ET):

    Fri, Mar 2 9:00 am Formula 1 Qualifying Australian Grand Pix LIVE
    Sat, Mar 3 9:00 am Formula 1 Preview
    9:30 pm Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix LIVE


    I have 2 words for everyone........................

    FORZA FERRARI !!
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Great, now I can be reminded that Comcast doesn't deliver SpeedVision by Drew and Serge. ;) Enjoy, guys. Maybe it's time for satellite. Someday, I hope content is unbundled so I can pick à la carte.

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • soon2bsubeesoon2bsubee Member Posts: 137
    Mike, I will e-mail you with the results (chuckle, chuckle)

    or check:

    http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/01formula1.html

    after the race
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    F1 is fun, but WRC is even better. We need Speedvision!

    Hmm, no WRX 2 door, gap in the line up. STi versions possible, so the engine will be EPA ready.

    Sounds like SVX time to me!

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    I'm now on my 3rd day driving the '00 OB Ltd Sedan Subaru of Santa Cruz loaned me while they repair my Forester.

    Although I miss my Forester, I am begining to like this vehicle. For one, I was able to get rid of most of the squealing tires by checking air pressure. They were way down at 26psi cold -- no wonder! Filling them up to 32psi helped fix the problem and firm up the ride. Corners feel a lot more soild now.

    The definte plusses are the nicely appointed interior and hushed ride. It makes my Forester seem very raw in comparison.

    The minuses would be the power and spongy brake feel. My Forester's brakes are definetly feel more solid and linear. Also, I hear that steering clunk some Legacy owners mention.

    I had some time today and visited a nearby dealer. They had quite a few VDC and LL Bean wagons on their lot. I began talking to the manager there and he offered me a test drive on the VDC wagon.

    Now that I had been driving the H4 mated to a 4EAT for some time, I appreciated the H6s torque. Again, 0-60 doesn't seem to be it's strongpoint but rather smooth mid-range power. Compared to the OB Ltd., the VDC defintely had much firmer brake feel and a firmer ride. I wasn't able to feel the difference with the 45:55 split, however.

    One interesting thing I noticed this time was that the H6 intake goes back to the old 98-99 design by routing the air into the fender and then back out into a filter box.

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Custom cold-air intake, anyone?

    -juice

    PS Don't forget the chat tonight - about 4 hours from now. I'd especially like to invite any new owners or those shopping for a Subaru who might want some quick feedback from 4-5 experienced regulars that tend to show up
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    Yep, Formula One is back in town and awfully close to me. My office is near the circuit and i usually drive around the lake on the way into work. Not this week though as the road is closed and the petrol heads are out in force. I will probably miss the race as I am heading up the bush to my folks. Funny thing is that when I lived in England i used to watch it religiously but now I am back here, I am not fussed.

    By the way, my sailing club organizes a regatta on the lake during the Grand Prix. See if you can see any Mirror Dinghys out there (they have two bright red sails). Maybe next year, we'll get out there too!

    The new WRX is getting very popular here. Apparently it is much easier to drive at the limit than the old car.

    Tomorrow's trip is over the mountains to drop my oldest at a camp and then across the range to my parents place. Fabulous roads for the Outback.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    everyone. We're off to Maine. Family orders prohibit me from bringing a laptop to keep in touch.

    I'll be back next Sunday. It appears we are going to have a nice snowfall on Tuesday or Wednesday so, while everyone is out skiing and having a good time, I'm determined to find some off the beaten route to put the VDC through some test.

    Be safe everyone and have a wonderful week!

    Patti
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Enjoy your trip, Patti!

    Ken,

    You mentioned in kens Mar 1, 2001 2:06pm that you couldn't discern the difference between the 55:45 AWD front:rear split on the VDC auto vs. the 90:10 split on the Outback sedan auto. What about the launch difference between your 98 Forester 5MT 50:50 split and the 90:10 4EAT split on the Outback?

    I ask because I can feel a big difference between launch of my FWD Civic and my wife's AWD GT on dry pavement (Costco fuel/staples run yesterday so it's fresh in my mind). Ignore the difference in horsepower, I'm talking about the feel of FWD vs. AWD on a launch. Mind you, I don't make jack rabbit starts, I just accelerate "normally" (usally). I can feel the difference even on clean, dry tarmac. This time of year (winter) the tarmac is covered with sand dispersed by road crews from the last "snow" and obviously I can feel the difference on slippery sand-covered tarmac but I can also feel the difference on clean, dry tarmac.

    What are the thoughts of you and others that have driven manual and auto Subarus about the different "feel" of a 50:50 MT launch vs. a 90:10 AT launch (not raw acceleration times)? I hope that was clear to somebody.

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I also barely noticed a difference between my 95/5 XT6 and my buddies 2.2l MT OBS. Although on dirty pavement I can actually get slight wheel spin in the front of the XT6 til the rears kick in.

    -mike
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    I think it kind of hard to compare - at least for me.

    My wife's car is a Saturn SL sedan (fwd). It's lighter and has smaller tires. It feels quick accelerating - especially since it's a 5 speed.

    Our automatic OB wagon definately feels heavier. I'm sure it launchs at least a quick as the Saturn, but you get a totally different feel altogether. Bigger tires, heavier package, better road feel, tighter suspension. Cornering is a blast in the OB!

    I thought the auto Subes had 50:50 split in 1st and 2nd gear? Or is that only when you manually select 1 or 2 on the gear shift. So, if that's true, the only difference between the auto and the manual is the actually gear ratios. I'd say the manual would have that advantage heads down (or is it hands up?).

    -Brian
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    We never did get an answer on the 50/50 in 1-2 gears on the autos. IMHO it's 50/50 if you select 1 or 2 but if it's in D it is 90/10. Actually I should try it out on my XT6, since I can spin the front wheels slightly in "D" I'll try to do the same take-off in 1 or 2 and see if I spin em.

    -mike
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    I get a better launch with my manual OBS than my wife's auto OB Ltd. in snow or rain. That's mainly on a slightly hard launch. OTOH, the manual does get more tail-happy on curves in the snow. I notice it in the dry as well. Again a slightly hard launch. That could also be the torque converter delay, correct?
    Dennis
  • kate5000kate5000 Member Posts: 1,271
    I wonder if anyone of the Crew test-drove TH, to compare ride/handling/power to Foresters and OB. I've heard that TH is so hot now in the Bay Area that dealers are reluctant to give you to test driver it unless you're a committed buyer...

    What I like about TH is that it looks like the Forester's big brother...
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I drove a Highlander about a month ago. I was very impressed. It seemed quicker off the line than the Outback H-6. The Outback, being lower, seemed to handle better. The Outback seems sportier. The Highlander is more utilitarian (much roomier, tows much more, etc).

    The big problem, for me, is the the cost. For almost the same money, you could get an Acura MDX. I would much prefer the Acura. I'm also not wild about the Highlander's styling.

    BTW, in Japan, the Highlander is called the Kluger V, and sports a Grand Cherokee rip-off grille.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Where do they get these names? Kluger V?

    -juice
  • soon2bsubeesoon2bsubee Member Posts: 137
    I tried to get on to the chat last night, but all I got was a long string of random characters...is it an AOL problem or is there a secret DC area handshake???
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Probably AOL. I think it works best with IE, though they were working on getting Netscape to work as well.

    OT, sorry, but I'm picking up the "mistress" from the body shop today. Any particulars to look for?

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I too can't log on to the chat via AOL, since they changed the format a few weeks ago. I was able to get on via Explorer, however.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Bummer. Homepage.com is closing shop at the end of the month.

    That means my web page is history! I think I'll just put the photos in PhotoPoint instead. What stinks is that there are hundreds! It'll take me forever!

    I'm peeved at these dot coms. Our "free" ISP is also going out of business and I've had endless problems with them, too.

    Sorry, just venting. :-<

    -juice
  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    what you paid for Juice?? It's easy to get spoiled.

    Ross
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I want my money back! Oh, wait...

    Still, I gave their pop-up ads plenty of free advertising. At several points I was getting 700 hits per week!

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Mike,

    The verdict is still out on what the torque split on 4EAT is when you accelerate normally from a standstill. I believe, based on anecdotal reports, that if you give enough throttle, 4EAT will start the power split at 50:50 regardless of what your gear selector is in. I attribute this to be the biggest cause for why I couldn't feel a huge difference in how the two vehicles (VDC vs. OB sedan) accelerated.

    How is it compared to my 5-speed Forester? I've driven 4EAT Foresters too and again, based on my amateur experience, it's difficult to tell the difference when starting from a stop. Both seem to pull away from rain-slicked intersections without any wheelspin. Again, it might be that 4EAT goes to a 50:50 split under certain conditions.

    Where I have noticed the difference is probably during corners. I wasn't able to take the VDC wagon or 4EAT Forester through it's paces so I only have the OB Ltd. Sedan vs. 5-speed Forester to compare. Although body geometery should favor the OB sedan, I can honestly say that in sharp turns, my Forester "felt" like it was understeering less. There is more pronounced body roll, however. My guess is that maybe the power split differences in non-accelerating situations (90:10 vs. 50:50) had something to do with it. I should also point out that my Forester does have a bigger-than-stock rear sway bar while the OB sedan was completely stock.

    Having said all that, I do agree that AWD cars (4EAT, 5MT and VDC) do feel different from FWD vehicles.

    Ken
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    If you want a place to host up your pages let me know. I have free space on isuzu-suvs.com and hopefully soon i'll have subaru-crew.com up where you can have zero advertising and /juice folder.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Thanks for the generous offer, but I don't have the energy to keep building new web pages (and they need it). I think I'll just post photos and the instructions will be in the subtitles.

    If I change my mind, I'll let you know.

    -juice
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Juice, check that the new door skin is properly crimped and sealed with urathane sealer just like factory, check that all gaps are even, hunker down and sight along the side of the car and make sure there are no ripples, finally check the quality of the paintwork and finally hassle them for the best warranty you can get them to commit to on their work,good luck hope they have done a super job.
    Cheers Pat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Thanks. I'm afraid of the factory paint now. Crystal White is the color most known for peeling.

    And we thought Soobs had thin paint!

    -juice
  • beach2beach2 Member Posts: 6
    I have read before on these boards that some people have experienced a strange, burning smell in their new subarus. we have had ours now for almost 4 months and 4500 miles and i still notice, on occasion, a burning smell coming through the vents. it happened most recently on a trip from philly to boston. it also seems to be more prominent when it is snowing/raining. i am bringing it to the dealer for an an oil change at about 5k. (I was pressed for time for the first LOF and had to take it to a quick lube.)
    Has anyone had any luck with tracking down the origin of this smell. i love this car and am worried that i am causing some kind of damage that i don't know about.
    BTW, our OB wagon 5sp is amazing in the snow!!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Sometimes it's the undercoating overspray that got on the exhaust. It burns off slowly but should be gone by 4 months.

    Check the oil level to make sure you're not leaking any oil. It could be as simple as the tech from the last oil change doing a sloppy job.

    If it happens more in rain or snow, my guess is it's something on the exhaust, since the engine cover on the OB protects most of the engine.

    You can switch to recirc for a temporary fix.

    -juice
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    I was using Netscape last night and the chat worked fine. Last week, however, I had to use IE since Netscape didn't open the chat applet at all.

    Still would like to see a wider (and taller) chat window - like the old one!

    -Brian
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I think it has to do with the salts they use on the roads. Every time I drive for hours in heavy snow or on rain over a heavily salted road I get out and smell a horrible burning on my trooper and my buddy on his Nissan Pickup as well. We are guessing it is salty liquid/snow getting on the hot exhaust and causing the smell. I wouldn't worry about it.

    -mike
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Thanks for everyone's comments.

    At lunch, a friend suggested the difference in FWD/AWD launch feel was self-justification for the AWD GT, much like the audiophile (I'm an aspring one) that replaces component after component, convinced that each (more expensive) compononent sounds better than the last. I guess a blind A/B test is in order. Hmm, guess I'd have to be the passenger.

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • hammersleyhammersley Member Posts: 684
    Just got our new Costco up & running here... and they have pumps! Price runs about a dime less than other area dealers... question for you: do your vehicles run OK on it? I've had previous vehicles that were picky about their gas flavor (Honda that hated Chevron). The Costco folks say the local formulation most closely resembles the Chevron additive package. Any performance differences?

    And as for you Seattleites, glad you're OK.. my wife was in church for Ash Wednesday services when it rattled the light fixtures over here... got a few folks attention! :)

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    We have a fairly new (about a year old) Costco around here too, and since it opened, I've been filling up my ML almost exclusively with their premium fuel with no ill effects. I go to them since their premium fuel prices are usually 5 cents cheaper/litre than other gas stations (the ML's tank is 72 litres with a 12 litre reserve). The only other station that has similar prices is the Real Canadian Superstore's gas bar, where they also give Superbucks (Ross should be familiar with this :-)). These can be redeamed in the store itself; they're sort of like vouchers.


    Drew
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  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    I sure am familiar with them Drew. There is a superstore about 2 km from me. I've sort of gotten hooked on Chevron for some reason so I rarely fill up there any more despite the $.03 per liter off. BTW Paul, I've had several cars which developed severe indigestion on Shell.

    Ross
  • hammersleyhammersley Member Posts: 684
    your cars got gas due to bad gas?

    Sorry.. I couldn't resist!

    The Costco gas here is a dime cheaper, but a ways away from the homestead. Unfortunately, it's not what you'd call a "fun" drive, but it's probably worth topping off if I'm in the neighborhood.

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    The calm before the storm. Today it's 56° and sunny. Saw a Prowler, a 427 Cobra, many Corvettes and bikers out enjoying the weather.

    Tomorrow we're supposed to get 10" - 20" of snow.

    Yeah! Life is good. :)

    Bob
  • soon2bsubeesoon2bsubee Member Posts: 137
    That 56 degree(I can't find the keyboard key for the degree symbol)temp sounds really nice..here in South Florida, it is already hot..maybe 85 today and humid...Mikey and I went to the Champion Porsche showroom this morning to look at the Porsche Lola Prototype that ran in the Daytona Rolex 24 a couple of weeks ago...what an incredible looking car...it looks fast just sitting there, surrounded by 911 turbos and Boxsters
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    On the MAC, to get the "°" you press 8 option shift, all at the same time. I don't know about PCs.

    We were in St Pete Beach for the Christmas holidays. The temp ranged from around 70° - 30°.

    Bob
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    Lazy PC users will copy your "°" symbol and cut and paste it from now on. ;-)

    °°°°°°°°

    Drew
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  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Techie's like myself use ALT + 0186 to produce the º symbol. :-)

    -Brian
  • soon2bsubeesoon2bsubee Member Posts: 137
    Here is the Lola we saw today:

    image
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    we also have, up in the "Apple Menu" something called "Key Caps" which will allow you to see all the various key combinations. So finding odd characters is pretty easy.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I tested out on my XT6 the splits...

    If in "1" or "2" it definitely is a different split than in "D" which lends credibility to the 50/50 split if in "1" or "2" I can usually spin the fronts in D, but not in "1" or "2"

    -mike
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