Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy · May 2019

He's buying a Prius?

Michaell · May 2019

stickguy said:
He's buying a Prius?

Given the miles he drives for work, there is a logic to that choice...

28firefighter · May 2019

This is quite entertaining.

Michaell · May 2019

28firefighter said:
This is quite entertaining.

I'm certainly enjoying it.

tjc78 · May 2019

Maybe another Subie, but this time a 6cyl?

pensfan83 · May 2019

Tesla?

au1994 · May 2019

Tacoma

stickguy · May 2019

Assuming Jan is Toyota Jan, that narrows it down. Knowing his commute, a Tacoma would be, to be charitable, an "interesting" choice. And not what I would want to use for it. But, YMMV. As a spare car, fun to have!

so, can't really see a Camry, Corolla, or the little cars as being worth driving to save a few $$ in gas (though I would consider a Camry for that duty).

All the SUVs are, well, more SUVs. already has one of those.

so if they are giving away Prius, at least the gas mileage is there. Might be a little short of power for the parkway on ramps. But good for schlepping into the city.

sda · May 2019

I’ll throw a random dart, Tesla? Never mind, I see that dart was thrown.

qbrozen · May 2019

Don’t forget he said we were wrong on type of vehicle after guesses included small SUVs, sedans, and coupes. We are left with trucks, jeeps, and maybe hatchbacks/wagons.

I’d vote volvo wagon, but that doesn’t strike me as a nyccarguy vehicle.

kyfdx · May 2019

Highlander

graphicguy · May 2019

Sitting on my deck drinking coffee listening to The Pretenders, Bo Deans and Dire Straits streaming through my Bose Bluetooth speakers. Just a great way to spend a sunny Saturday a.m. I almost forgot how good these groups are.

@Michaell ...you’re such a disappointment to us for keeping secrets....;)

@bradd ...I’ll throw my hat into the ring.....I’m thinking either a TLX A-Spec or an X2.

marcogallo1986 · May 2019

Maybe he’s going to buy the new Toyota supra just thought I throw that out there. I think it comes out the dealers in July. You may have to wait a while but this suspense is killing me and I’m enjoying coming in here like always and reading all the post every day.

marcogallo1986 · May 2019

Breld Any punches down the line for you since New York Oregon and is something in the works. You both find something now around the same time. Lol

tjc78 · May 2019

Sitting on my deck drinking coffee listening to The Pretenders and Dire Straits streaming through my Bose Bluetooth speakers. Just a great way to spend a sunny Saturday a.m. I almost forgot how good these groups are.

I love that you mentioned the audio equipment you were using! I have an older Bose sound dock portable that I bought a BT adapter for. I think it’s at the end of its life cycle. One of the drivers sounds blown. It’s had a hard life and served me well... maybe I’ll attempt to fix it.

I want install outdoor speakers under the soffit outside and wire it into an AUX input and volume control in a weather proof box. It’s not something I can’t handle, just need to dedicate a few hours to do it. It should be straightforward as on the other side of the wall is our family/playroom TV so I can tuck an old receiver on the shelf below to power them. I have an old 50 WPC JVC somewhere in the basement.

ab348 · May 2019

Going from the Infiniti to a Taco seems like a big step down and not the ideal commuter vehicle either. My money is on the ~~Pious~~ Prius.

breld · May 2019

graphicguy said:

Sitting on my deck drinking coffee listening to The Pretenders, Bo Deans and Dire Straits streaming through my Bose Bluetooth speakers. Just a great way to spend a sunny Saturday a.m. I almost forgot how good these groups are. @Michaell ...you’re such a disappointment to us for keeping secrets....;) @bradd ...I’ll throw my hat into the ring.....I’m thinking either a TLX A-Spec or an X2.

Bo Deans! Love it!

breld · May 2019

marcogallo1986 said:

Breld Any punches down the line for you since New York Oregon and is something in the works. You both find something now around the same time. Lol

Nothing really in the pipeline, though there’s always the possibility. I still entertain the thought of replacing the Miata with something a bit more practical but still fun. But then I look at the Miata...and then I drive the Miata...and it’s hard to bring myself to trading it just yet.

roadburner · May 2019

graphicguy said:
Sitting on my deck drinking coffee listening to The Pretenders, Bo Deans and Dire Straits streaming through my Bose Bluetooth speakers. Just a great way to spend a sunny Saturday a.m. I almost forgot how good these groups are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjKGJ9RFo78

Michaell · May 2019

I saw dire straits in concert when I was in college. Quite the fantastic show, though I’d hoped they would have played “Telegraph Road” as an encore.

I also enjoy Mark Knopflers solo music - he wrote a song about Indy Cars (“Speedway at Nazareth”)

corvette · May 2019

GTI? The breld household has had several.

marcogallo1986 · May 2019

i will lissen to the above thank you for sharing. AllBreld. Got you! You will find. Sum thing. Soon Lol

marcogallo1986 · May 2019

Whoops on the above! Do not no y it did that!

andres3 · May 2019

roadburner said:
I saw the story on Jalopnik about the big discounts on Stingers so I emailed the local dealer to see if/when they would be getting any GT2 models with RWD. Herewith their response:
”I saw you had a question regarding the Kia Stinger! We should be getting some in the future, but we won't know until they get in. The Stinger base model comes in rear-wheel drive if that would interest you! You have to see how they grip the road to get a true feel of how they handle!”

I guess I should be happy he picked up on the RWD requirement.

That right there is my problem with sales in a nutshell. They don't give a damn about what you want or need, they only care about selling you something they can sell you today.

rayainsw · May 2019

Speaking of Prius - did anyone see the LA car chase videos ?
Who would select that as a getaway vehicle???
- Ray
Many shots fired from Prius...

marcogallo1986 · May 2019

Andries three, agreed that’s a big problem we should care and listen to what you want I’m just trying to sell you something today for the city of cell you something. That’s what I would make such a good car salesman if they would just give me a chance to get around not having a drivers license.

marcogallo1986 · May 2019

Not my type of music but I enjoyed listening to the above.

andres3 · May 2019

28firefighter said:
I can't believe anyone would get a Stelvio between mine and Q's feedback on it.

My buddy's wife has one and it experienced a spontaneous adaptive cruise control acceleration event. Out of nowhere, after slowing down for traffic, it accelerated to 90+.

You, Q, and every long term tester in the media all had similar results?

Say it ain't so! LOL!

ab348 · May 2019

I saw Dire Straits in concert around 1992 on their "On Every Street" tour. They did play Telegraph Road. It was an outstanding show. Setlist here: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dire-straits/1992/halifax-metro-centre-halifax-ns-canada-3d9656f.html

I have long been a big fan of Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders. She had such a unique way of singing a line. I like this cut:

https://youtu.be/99svrFj-G_g

rayainsw · May 2019

Clearing out my garage - going to sell later this year,
Came across a R&T from 1984 with a test of the original Jetta GLI:
1/4 = 18 sec. @ 74.5
0 - 60 = 11.2 sec.
base price = $8690
- Ray
35 years ago...

henryn · May 2019

laurasdada said:
Random Ramblings:

Broke a tooth flossing last night; don't get old. My dentist put a temporary crown on it today noon-time.

Monday evening, I broke off a tooth, right at the gumline. And up front, leaving a big hole in my smile. I look like I'm ready to audition for a role in the remake of Deliverance. The tooth was dead, so it didn't hurt, but there goes about $4k or $5k for an implant. I have to agree - "Don't get old". As Janis Joplin said, "Live hard, die young, leave a beautiful corpse". Much better plan.

henryn · May 2019

graphicguy said:
Sitting on my deck drinking coffee listening to The Pretenders, Bo Deans and Dire Straits streaming through my Bose Bluetooth speakers. Just a great way to spend a sunny Saturday a.m. I almost forgot how good these groups are.

Well, I at least recognize 2 out of 3. Never heard of the BoDeans, had to google for that one.

Chrissie Hynde had a very distinctive voice, I'll give you that.

tifighter · May 2019

Go test drive a Model 3 for fun. Let me know if you need a referral code

qbrozen · May 2019

corvette said:

GTI? The breld household has had several.

Already suggested and shot down, I believe

roadburner · May 2019

Just two more videos; the first is Liz Phair- my secret crush:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9qGjyAh4w

Next up is my girlfriend from middle school. Really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NB1xHG8JU

pensfan83 · May 2019

My parents named one of the dogs Bodean in honor of the band.

breld · May 2019

Wasn’t necessarily a Liz Phair fan but some friends had an extra ticket to her show several years ago so I went along.

Great show.

nyccarguy · May 2019

stickguy said:

an F150? Tacoma?

@stickguy gets the gold star!

So as I said, I’m on the hunt right now. I have yet to go and take a test drive of a Tacoma (which will ultimately decide whether I like it or not).

I’ve become very interested in leasing a 4WD TRD Sport Double Cab Short Bed. I’ve got a very solid offer from a broker. I know 1/2 the fun is “hacking” the deal yourself, but this guy came back to me right off the bat with some solid numbers. Let me know what y’all think:

24 months/18K per year
$384/month with $3,600 in MSD

I’ve got a nice offer for my Q40 from Carvana. My question for you guys has to do with the MSD. It’s a good deal with the MSD, but I really need all the cash I’m going to pull out of my Q40. So is it still worth it to do the deal without the MSD (as long as I dig it on the test drive) at say $50 more per month.

nyccarguy · May 2019

Speaking of test drives, I rung this guy around an auto-X this AM. Lots of fun!

thebean · May 2019

henryn said:
@henryn...As Janis Joplin said, "Live hard, die young, leave a beautiful corpse". Much better plan.

Well, I’m not sure I would call Janis beautiful. Greatness in singing, yes. Probably a ton of fun to party with (for about an hour for me). But I’d have to draw the line at “unique looking”.

marcogallo1986 · May 2019

Nice New York car guy!

qbrozen · May 2019

nyccarguy said:

stickguy said:

an F150? Tacoma?

@stickguy gets the gold star!

So as I said, I’m on the hunt right now. I have yet to go and take a test drive of a Tacoma (which will ultimately decide whether I like it or not).

I’ve become very interested in leasing a 4WD TRD Sport Double Cab Short Bed. I’ve got a very solid offer from a broker. I know 1/2 the fun is “hacking” the deal yourself, but this guy came back to me right off the bat with some solid numbers. Let me know what y’all think:

24 months/18K per year
$384/month with $3,600 in MSD

I’ve got a nice offer for my Q40 from Carvana. My question for you guys has to do with the MSD. It’s a good deal with the MSD, but I really need all the cash I’m going to pull out of my Q40. So is it still worth it to do the deal without the MSD (as long as I dig it on the test drive) at say $50 more per month.

seems like a lot, no? TRD sports are advertised in NE for about $250 with just first month and MSDs. I know you are at 18k vs the advertised 10k, but that's a heck of a bump for ... what? 5% residual penalty? What is the MSRP?

28firefighter · May 2019

@nyccarguy the MSD with Toyota are an incredible ROI. A savings of $50/mo saves you $1200 over 24 months in return for letting them hold the $3600 in MSD. Nearly a 33% return. From an investment perspective you’d be crazy not to do it.

However, if the purpose of this exercise is to maximize the available liquidity you have in the Q40, then I understand why you might not.

nyccarguy · May 2019

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

an F150? Tacoma?

@stickguy gets the gold star!

So as I said, I’m on the hunt right now. I have yet to go and take a test drive of a Tacoma (which will ultimately decide whether I like it or not).

I’ve become very interested in leasing a 4WD TRD Sport Double Cab Short Bed. I’ve got a very solid offer from a broker. I know 1/2 the fun is “hacking” the deal yourself, but this guy came back to me right off the bat with some solid numbers. Let me know what y’all think:

24 months/18K per year
$384/month with $3,600 in MSD

I’ve got a nice offer for my Q40 from Carvana. My question for you guys has to do with the MSD. It’s a good deal with the MSD, but I really need all the cash I’m going to pull out of my Q40. So is it still worth it to do the deal without the MSD (as long as I dig it on the test drive) at say $50 more per month.
seems like a lot, no? TRD sports are advertised in NE for about $250 with just first month and MSDs. I know you are at 18k vs the advertised 10k, but that's a heck of a bump for ... what? 5% residual penalty? What is the MSRP?

MSRP is $42,300

The 12K to 18K bump is about $100 per month (including tax).

28firefighter · May 2019

Usually it’s a 2% drop to 15k. Then after that you’re just prepaying the mileage, possibly at a discount, but figure 6000 additional miles at $.20/mile takes it down another 2%.

ab348 · May 2019

Not to be a wet blanket, but be sure to drive that TRD on at least part of your daily commute route first.

kyfdx · May 2019

ab348 said:
Not to be a wet blanket, but be sure to drive that TRD on at least part of your daily commute route first.

Ditto... you'll hate it, if you have to commute in it. The V-6 is pretty gutless, and it will get worse mileage than your Q40.

Plus, at 18K/yr, even the lease deal isn't great.

cdnpinhead · May 2019

henryn said:
"Live hard, die young, leave a beautiful corpse". Much better plan.

I beg to differ. My endurance sucks and I've had more medical appointments in the last six months than I had in the previous 15 years. That said, I'm still taking joy from life, and that's all I ask.

stickguy · May 2019

from cruising around Honcker the last few months the best long commuter deal was definitely the Fusion Hybrid Titanium. 3 year, 18K miles, with very little money up front and only about $225/month. If I had not already leased the TLX, I would have grabbed one of those and had the wife using it for her commuter miles. and saving a bunch on gas!

breld · May 2019

kyfdx said:

Not to be a wet blanket, but be sure to drive that TRD on at least part of your daily commute route first.
Ditto... you'll hate it, if you have to commute in it. The V-6 is pretty gutless, and it will get worse mileage than your Q40. Plus, at 18K/yr, even the lease deal isn't great.

I think all the points you make are absolutely valid, but I get the sense most Tacoma owners’ enjoyment of the truck has much to do less with the individual attributes and more to do with the overall character and experience. Similarly, I’ve driven the 4Runner on occasion and find it to be a much less enjoyable ride than most any other SUV, but that doesn’t stop loads of people from being repeat owners. And I’d guess few of them are buying it for its off road credentials.

Like @jpp75, who is thoroughly enjoying his Tacoma thus far, Bradd also has a fun ride on the side with his Prelude. Having that contrasting fun car may help a lot in having the Tacoma as the daily commuter.

But with all that said, we all look forward to Bradd’s impressions.

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