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tjc78 · June 2019

28firefighter said:
Punch pending.

YES!!!!!

28firefighter · June 2019

2019 Subaru Outback 3.6 Limited in Wilderness Green.

$1k OOP (of which $600 was registration) and $298/month including 10.5% tax for 36 months and 10k a year. I didn’t expect to do a deal today but I could not walk away from that. It was my wife’s top color choice and inventory of the 3.6 is dwindling.

A new 2020 will be in the upper 3s or low 4s.

I’m very popular in my house right now.

Stelvio will likely go away as I have someone interested but will also shop the BMW.

Michaell · June 2019

28firefighter said:
2019 Subaru Forester 3.6 Limited in Wilderness Green.

$1k OOP (of which $600 was registration) and $298/month including 10.5% tax for 36 months and 10k a year. I didn’t expect to do a deal today but I could not walk away from that. It was my wife’s top color choice and inventory of the 3.6 is dwindling.

A new 2020 will be in the upper 3s or low 4s.

I’m very popular in my house right now.

Stelvio will likely go away as I have someone interested but will also shop the BMW.

Um, Forester?

Membership revoked for that error.

And, great color - same as the one in our garage.

Fully loaded, I presume?

28firefighter · June 2019

What error?

suydam · June 2019

I love the Forester! I know I’m in the minority but always preferred it to the Outback. We had one for a couple of years in the early 2000s. Congratulations!

Michaell · June 2019

28firefighter said:
What error?

Forester not available with the 3.6 engine - didn't you mean to say Outback?

28firefighter · June 2019

It’s fixed. I was trying to be clever.

stickguy · June 2019

the old 4 hour window to fix your error and pretend it never happened!

if they had offers like that back in December we would have an outback in my driveway too. Same one I was looking at. Love that color too.

and speaking of TLX, I second that the 2.4 is plenty zippy enough, and I am getting MPG like that too. I have had runs breaking 36. Pretty impressive. and the stereo, handling, etc. are top notch. I doubt I buy it out, and might want to move to a CUV for myself, but I would have no problem owning this for an extended time. Plus, no turbo to worry about!

pensfan83 · June 2019

@28firefighter nice! Congrats!

nyccarguy · June 2019

@28firefighter - Mazel Tov & Congrats on the Outback!

Michaell · June 2019

28firefighter said:
It’s fixed. I was trying to be clever.

Just giving you grief.

Congrats, and a great color choice. That was the only color my wife would live with. Had to wait two weeks for it to arrive from Indiana.

We love it.

Michaell · June 2019

stickguy said:
and speaking of TLX, I second that the 2.4 is plenty zippy enough, and I am getting MPG like that too. I have had runs breaking 36. Pretty impressive. and the stereo, handling, etc. are top notch. I doubt I buy it out, and might want to move to a CUV for myself, but I would have no problem owning this for an extended time. Plus, no turbo to worry about!

The lack of a turbo is something that appeals to me for long term ownership. But, I’ll admit I’ve been eyeing 228 coupes lately - quite a few of them with AWD for under $25k used.

fintail · June 2019

Congrats @28firefighter , surprised there were any left at that price and how they sell around here.

stickguy · June 2019

I am not doing a low slung coupe. That I can guarantee.

Wife started commenting about how old the RDX is. got a big of a 'tude about my car having another 2+ years before it is done and (sticking to plan) she gets a new one and I get a hand me down. I mentioned the outback killer deals, and she answered about not know if she likes them. But she really does like the new RDX. So I have a strong suspicion that in a couple years, we will potentially be a 2 RDX family.

TLX just turned 6 months old last week, and I finally cracked 4,000 miles this week.

Michaell · June 2019

stickguy said:
I am not doing a low slung coupe. That I can guarantee.

Wife started commenting about how old the RDX is. got a big of a 'tude about my car having another 2+ years before it is done and (sticking to plan) she gets a new one and I get a hand me down. I mentioned the outback killer deals, and she answered about not know if she likes them. But she really does like the new RDX. So I have a strong suspicion that in a couple years, we will potentially be a 2 RDX family.

TLX just turned 6 months old last week, and I finally cracked 4,000 miles this week.

You put on miles like I do. Jetta crossed the 16,000 mile threshold a couple weeks ago, and the lease is up in August.

28firefighter · June 2019

So the longer story was I had no intention of buying a car today. Truly. However, I started seeing on the Outback forums that dealers up this way were starting to really get pressure to unload the remaining inventory before the 2020 lands. Hence my post last night.

Started talking to my wife and she was on board with the idea of flipping the Stelvio (transfer it) and getting the outback, I’d drive the X1 until lease end and then see what happens. Even having her on board, I knew to make this happen would be a long shot.

I had emailed a dealer near Tacoma who gave me a screaming deal on a buy or lease. But they didn’t have the color my wife wanted (Green). Made some calls and a dealer I have a relationship with was on the verge of dealer trading his green one away when I called. I told him what I had from the other place and said I’d come over this afternoon to get it. And that was the show. Did credit online, drove over and was out in 90 minutes - wait for finance was long.

Wife got home after the 20 mile drive and said I’d need to pry it away from her. She’s said that exactly never before about any car.

The 3.6 engine is darn quick and very very smooth. Really impressed so far.

Michaell · June 2019

28firefighter said:
So the longer story was I had no intention of buying a car today. Truly. However, I started seeing on the Outback forums that dealers up this way were starting to really get pressure to unload the remaining inventory before the 2020 lands. Hence my post last night.

Started talking to my wife and she was on board with the idea of flipping the Stelvio (transfer it) and getting the outback, I’d drive the X1 until lease end and then see what happens. Even having her on board, I knew to make this happen would be a long shot.

I had emailed a dealer near Tacoma who gave me a screaming deal on a buy or lease. But they didn’t have the color my wife wanted (Green). Made some calls and a dealer I have a relationship with was on the verge of dealer trading his green one away when I called. I told him what I had from the other place and said I’d come over this afternoon to get it. And that was the show. Did credit online, drove over and was out in 90 minutes - wait for finance was long.

Wife got home after the 20 mile drive and said I’d need to pry it away from her. She’s said that exactly never before about any car.

The 3.6 engine is darn quick and very very smooth. Really impressed so far.

I think your wife will really like the Outback. Smooth and comfortable. Good road trip car, and blends in with the surrounding traffic, so you can exceed the speed limit and be inconspicuous about it. I've had ours up to 90 MPH on I-25 in Southern Colorado and New Mexico and the wife hardly notices.

Still looks good after 4+ years. A dent here, and a scrape there, which is to be expected. Cargo room, with the rear seats up or down, is more than adequate. Does yours have the rear seat rubber protectors on the back of them?

28firefighter · June 2019

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:
So the longer story was I had no intention of buying a car today. Truly. However, I started seeing on the Outback forums that dealers up this way were starting to really get pressure to unload the remaining inventory before the 2020 lands. Hence my post last night.

Started talking to my wife and she was on board with the idea of flipping the Stelvio (transfer it) and getting the outback, I’d drive the X1 until lease end and then see what happens. Even having her on board, I knew to make this happen would be a long shot.

I had emailed a dealer near Tacoma who gave me a screaming deal on a buy or lease. But they didn’t have the color my wife wanted (Green). Made some calls and a dealer I have a relationship with was on the verge of dealer trading his green one away when I called. I told him what I had from the other place and said I’d come over this afternoon to get it. And that was the show. Did credit online, drove over and was out in 90 minutes - wait for finance was long.

Wife got home after the 20 mile drive and said I’d need to pry it away from her. She’s said that exactly never before about any car.

The 3.6 engine is darn quick and very very smooth. Really impressed so far.
I think your wife will really like the Outback. Smooth and comfortable. Good road trip car, and blends in with the surrounding traffic, so you can exceed the speed limit and be inconspicuous about it. I've had ours up to 90 MPH on I-25 in Southern Colorado and New Mexico and the wife hardly notices.

Still looks good after 4+ years. A dent here, and a scrape there, which is to be expected. Cargo room, with the rear seats up or down, is more than adequate. Does yours have the rear seat rubber protectors on the back of them?

It does. It seems to have come with every single accessory Subaru offered except a remote start.

Michaell · June 2019

28firefighter said:

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:
So the longer story was I had no intention of buying a car today. Truly. However, I started seeing on the Outback forums that dealers up this way were starting to really get pressure to unload the remaining inventory before the 2020 lands. Hence my post last night.

Started talking to my wife and she was on board with the idea of flipping the Stelvio (transfer it) and getting the outback, I’d drive the X1 until lease end and then see what happens. Even having her on board, I knew to make this happen would be a long shot.

I had emailed a dealer near Tacoma who gave me a screaming deal on a buy or lease. But they didn’t have the color my wife wanted (Green). Made some calls and a dealer I have a relationship with was on the verge of dealer trading his green one away when I called. I told him what I had from the other place and said I’d come over this afternoon to get it. And that was the show. Did credit online, drove over and was out in 90 minutes - wait for finance was long.

Wife got home after the 20 mile drive and said I’d need to pry it away from her. She’s said that exactly never before about any car.

The 3.6 engine is darn quick and very very smooth. Really impressed so far.
I think your wife will really like the Outback. Smooth and comfortable. Good road trip car, and blends in with the surrounding traffic, so you can exceed the speed limit and be inconspicuous about it. I've had ours up to 90 MPH on I-25 in Southern Colorado and New Mexico and the wife hardly notices.

Still looks good after 4+ years. A dent here, and a scrape there, which is to be expected. Cargo room, with the rear seats up or down, is more than adequate. Does yours have the rear seat rubber protectors on the back of them?
It does. It seems to have come with every single accessory Subaru offered except a remote start.

I think ours was equipped the same way.

Yours, of course, has better headlights and CarPlay. I'll miss the latter when the Jetta goes back and I start driving the Outback more.

marcogallo1986 · June 2019

@ 20 firefighter very nice I didn’t see this coming you caught us all off guard, very excited your wife got a nice color choice not a bland white black silver or gray. Congratulations to your wife, and I see you have a punch soon from your above posting probably within the next couple of weeks, before the end of July. Very happy for you both, keep us updated on everything.

marcogallo1986 · June 2019

@ 28 firefighter glad she’s enjoying it so much already that’s awesome.

tifighter · June 2019

@28firefighter congrats. Glad your wife likes it. Got to give the people what they want...

jmonroe1 · June 2019

28firefighter said:
So the longer story was I had no intention of buying a car today. Truly. However, I started seeing on the Outback forums that dealers up this way were starting to really get pressure to unload the remaining inventory before the 2020 lands. Hence my post last night.

Started talking to my wife and she was on board with the idea of flipping the Stelvio (transfer it) and getting the outback, I’d drive the X1 until lease end and then see what happens. Even having her on board, I knew to make this happen would be a long shot.

I had emailed a dealer near Tacoma who gave me a screaming deal on a buy or lease. But they didn’t have the color my wife wanted (Green). Made some calls and a dealer I have a relationship with was on the verge of dealer trading his green one away when I called. I told him what I had from the other place and said I’d come over this afternoon to get it. And that was the show. Did credit online, drove over and was out in 90 minutes - wait for finance was long.

Wife got home after the 20 mile drive and said I’d need to pry it away from her. She’s said that exactly never before about any car.

The 3.6 engine is darn quick and very very smooth. Really impressed so far.

Good luck with the/her new Subie. I don't have that problem with Mrs. j. All she wants is a car she is used to. Getting a new car for her was like pulling teeth. I worked on her for at least 3 years to let me dump her 2012 Legacy Limited with the 3.6 and get an exact replacement. This past April it finally worked. In the end the way I did it was to pull up the Subie website and start changing colors. She was in the office chair watching TV. She glanced over at me on the computer and when she saw what I was doing she harshly reminded me that she didn't need another car. Needing and wanting are two entirely different things, as all of us know in here. Anyway, when she saw the Burgundy over Beige pop up she said, "that IS a nice color. IF I wanted another car, that is the color I would want, outside and inside. Now I'm getting somewhere. I told her that her car was getting old, 7 years old to be exact, and even though the car just turned 36K miles, it wouldn't be trouble free forever. She said something like, "even I know that 36 thousand miles is not a lot of miles for a car". I didn't say a word, just kept zooming in on the interior and exterior pics. Finally she said, "I don't want another car but how much does that one cost". Now I'm REALLY getting somewhere. Long story short, I pretty much did to her what I did when I wanted to buy my '09 Genny that was Burgundy over Beige. Just kept looking at the zoomed in pics. Like I've said before about that purchase, 'by the time I was done with her, I had her believing that she's the one that wanted the car and I was just an innocent bystander'. And it worked this time too. Don't know why it took me so long to pull out that strategy again.

I've heard mention in here about getting "punches" for a purchase. How do I go about getting an official punch? While I might not be a chronic car buyer by the standards set in here, the way I worked her has to account for something.

Any help is appreciated.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · June 2019

jmonroe1 said:

28firefighter said:
Wife accepted a new job today - bump in pay, better title, and incredible benefits. 2 months to the day from when her company closed.

She starts next week, I think.
Congrats to Mrs. Firefighter. You should now get a bump in your allowance to support your car buying habit. That's only fair, right?

jmonroe

I don't usually talk to myself, but hey, look at the above...I nailed that one.

Mrs. j is right again; I am a know-it-all.

jmonroe

tjc78 · June 2019

marcogallo1986 said:
@ 28 firefighter glad she’s enjoying it so much already that’s awesome.

+1 Congrats.

andres3 · June 2019

fintail said:
Congrats @28firefighter , surprised there were any left at that price and how they sell around here.

Yes, Subaru is popular throughout the west coast, I got sent home without Outback for an offer I know was in the reasonable range (but obviously low for my benefit range). I'd say I was offering just $500 below the "Costco" deal in San Diego at an Irvine Subaru dealership. Arguably, since I was using a $500 "Ambassador" voucher coupon, 1,000 below, but I'd argue that's the same across the board.

benjaminh · June 2019

28firefighter said:
2019 Subaru Outback 3.6 Limited in Wilderness Green.

$1k OOP (of which $600 was registration) and $298/month including 10.5% tax for 36 months and 10k a year....

Amazing that you can lease a $39k car for that.

Also amazing that while everyone else has abandoned station wagons, Subaru sales have been booming for more than ten years while selling maybe 90% station wagon-SUVs.

The Subaru Foresters that my parents used to own seemed a bit rough compared to the Hondas I owned at the time, but I imagine that today a top-of-the-line Outback with a big 6-cylinder engine is pretty close to being a luxury car.

marcogallo1986 · June 2019

@Jmonro. One punch added! To the list!

28firefighter · June 2019

I love it so far. I can see why the obsession exists.

Now to get the Stelvio flipped. Anyone interested in a $295/month payment including tax for 13 months and 15k miles?

au1994 · June 2019

Congratulations @28firefighter! That was a deal too good to pass up!

jmonroe1 · June 2019

Nun

marcogallo1986 said:
@Jmonro. One punch added! To the list!

Thanks @marcogallo1986, I knew I could count on you.

jmonroe

kyfdx · June 2019

28firefighter said:
I love it so far. I can see why the obsession exists.

Now to get the Stelvio flipped. Anyone interested in a $295/month payment including tax for 13 months and 15k miles?

Is that the pre-tax payment?

Is it currently road worthy?

laurasdada · June 2019

Congrats, FF! And, another Stelvio bites the dust...
I'm wondering if the Alfa dealer that disappeared in my hood last year may be returning in another guise? In a former dealership, that appears to be a staging area for Tesla, there are now several Alfas on the lot.

At the movies last night, a rather gorgeous red Jag F-Type in the lot. GF noticed it, said if I bought one, she'd be glad to drive it. Told her I might be able to swing a leftover '18, white/black/awd for $70k otd. She said that's way too much for a car, $ could be spent on much better things (read; certain type of ring...). She's just wonderful.

corvette · June 2019

That sounds lovely, but I don’t want to get rid of either of mine. And three cars in my driveway would be a nightmare.

jmonroe1 · June 2019

28firefighter said:
I love it so far. I can see why the obsession exists.

Now to get the Stelvio flipped. Anyone interested in a $295/month payment including tax for 13 months and 15k miles?

Nice to hear you still like it. I doubt you'll fall out of love with the 3.6 engine. Getting that engine was a MUST when I bought Mrs. j the 2012 Legacy. Even went to Columbus Ohio to get it. So there was no doubt I had to get it again. The only thing that made me even think about getting another Subie was that it had the CVT tranny but once I gave it a good test drive, I didn't have anymore concerns. Even Son #1 who is a lot more critical about this kind of stuff, liked it when he drove it home after the purchase. I'm pretty sure they have programmed in shift points. If you don't pay a lot of attention to how it accelerates, most people wouldn't even know it has a CVT.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's going to take a chisel to get that smile off you face.

jmonroe

qbrozen · June 2019

I must be the only one who is not a fan of the Subaru. Engine itself seems OK, but the trans sucks any real fun out of it for me. But I know it isn’t intended to be a sporty vehicle, so I’m not exactly its audience.

suydam · June 2019

I know how you feel. Everyone I know who has an Outback loves it to death. It’s just too big for me. I did like the Legacy and the Forester in colder climates, but in California no reason to sacrifice the MPG.

28firefighter · June 2019

Regarding the Stelvio, it’s $266/month pretax. With 10.5% tax it goes to $295/month. It’s fully functional.

Re: the 3.6 in the outback. This isn’t intended to be our “fun” car - it’s the family hauler. That said, I think the CVT does an astonishingly good job of keeping the engine in the sweet spot of the power band. It’s not a sports car and doesn’t handle as such, but it’s shockingly quick.

Michaell · June 2019

28firefighter said:
Regarding the Stelvio, it’s $266/month pretax. With 10.5% tax it goes to $295/month. It’s fully functional.

Re: the 3.6 in the outback. This isn’t intended to be our “fun” car - it’s the family hauler. That said, I think the CVT does an astonishingly good job of keeping the engine in the sweet spot of the power band. It’s not a sports car and doesn’t handle as such, but it’s shockingly quick.

Agreed. I think the lack of heft as opposed to mainstream SUVs helps with acceleration

28firefighter · June 2019

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:
Regarding the Stelvio, it’s $266/month pretax. With 10.5% tax it goes to $295/month. It’s fully functional.

Re: the 3.6 in the outback. This isn’t intended to be our “fun” car - it’s the family hauler. That said, I think the CVT does an astonishingly good job of keeping the engine in the sweet spot of the power band. It’s not a sports car and doesn’t handle as such, but it’s shockingly quick.
Agreed. I think the lack of heft as opposed to mainstream SUVs helps with acceleration

This is also very true. But it still feels very substantial.

We took delivery with 5 miles and have about 60 on it now. I’m really pleased to report that it has no rattles, creaks, etc even with the cargo cover installed. Also, the infotainment (while basic) is very intuitive and carplay works seamlessly.

I really need to do some reading on eyesight to understand it.

kyfdx · July 2019

qbrozen said:
I must be the only one who is not a fan of the Subaru. Engine itself seems OK, but the trans sucks any real fun out of it for me. But I know it isn’t intended to be a sporty vehicle, so I’m not exactly its audience.

Same

kyfdx · July 2019

28firefighter said:
Regarding the Stelvio, it’s $266/month pretax. With 10.5% tax it goes to $295/month. It’s fully functional.

Re: the 3.6 in the outback. This isn’t intended to be our “fun” car - it’s the family hauler. That said, I think the CVT does an astonishingly good job of keeping the engine in the sweet spot of the power band. It’s not a sports car and doesn’t handle as such, but it’s shockingly quick.

Chrysler Capital? Have you looked up the swap terms?

qbrozen · July 2019

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:
Regarding the Stelvio, it’s $266/month pretax. With 10.5% tax it goes to $295/month. It’s fully functional.

Re: the 3.6 in the outback. This isn’t intended to be our “fun” car - it’s the family hauler. That said, I think the CVT does an astonishingly good job of keeping the engine in the sweet spot of the power band. It’s not a sports car and doesn’t handle as such, but it’s shockingly quick.
Chrysler Capital? Have you looked up the swap terms?

Ally

marcogallo1986 · July 2019

Can’t see how Subarus drive, I’ve never experienced one maybe will get my dad to look at one soon just to see if he would even like it. I know he’s looking at another Hyundai most likely again. To each his own what you like what you don’t like. But I always say in here many times. Lol

marcogallo1986 · July 2019

Some looking online there’s a nice 3.6 or limited and read over here at a local dealer. Sounds lovely would buy it maybe if I liked it if I was driving. Lol hey can dream right why not. One day

marcogallo1986 · July 2019

@Jmonro. You are welcome! Any time!

jmonroe1 · July 2019

marcogallo1986 said:
@Jmonro. You are welcome! Any time!

You talkin to me? Get your spell checker fixed. :@

jmonroe

28firefighter · July 2019

jmonroe1 said:

marcogallo1986 said:
@Jmonro. You are welcome! Any time!
You talkin to me? Get your spell checker fixed. :@

jmonroe

Marco is partially blind and uses a speech-to-text application to talk to us; sometimes the app has a mind of its own with spelling, especially with some of our more interesting usernames! We all know what he is talking about.

jmonroe1 · July 2019

28firefighter said:

jmonroe1 said:

marcogallo1986 said:
@Jmonro. You are welcome! Any time!
You talkin to me? Get your spell checker fixed. :@

jmonroe
Marco is partially blind and uses a speech-to-text application to talk to us; sometimes the app has a mind of its own with spelling, especially with some of our more interesting usernames! We all know what he is talking about.

I know that and I'm sure @marcogallo1986 knows I'm pulling his chain. We've had fun with this before but it's nice to know that these Edmunds forums stick up for its members.

@Marco, can't wait for you to jump on me about this like you have done in the past. I might have to get ready to do my rope-a-dope maneuver again.

jmonroe

28firefighter · July 2019

@Michaell - Do you have any recommendations for rear seat protectors for the Outback? With the ivory interior and one car seat in the back plus a dog periodically, I'm thinking we need a seat protector.

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