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What about a 2005 BMW 330i auto/non-navi. Looking for a 24mo/30k or a 36mo/45k lease numbers. Thanks, you've been an unbelievable help.
Thanks for the advice. Below, I have included the MSRP for the 2005 Acura TSX, as well as reposted the deal numbers. Thanks for all your help!
MSRP $27,560
48 month term at 12,000 miles per year,
Negotiated Selling Price: $25,300
Monthly Payment $337 (includes 9% lease tax for Pennsylvania)
Due at signing: 1st Months payment ($337) + Tags ($178) + Bank Fee ($595) = $1,100
Current configuration I am looking at is with premium package, splash guards, and trunk mat.
MSRP of this vehicle is 36,480. Invoice is 33,420. I would assume that a fair Cap cost (based off carsdirect price)would be around 34,200, maybe less.
I would like to lease with 12k miles a year for 36-39 months with zero down. (cap cost reduction)
Car_man can you run some numbers for me. I would appreciate it very much!! Thanks!!
Thx
One of the Toyota dealers quoted me $378/Mo for 36 Months., $1000 down on a V6 AWD Highlander Limited ( MSRP about $35.5K, but Toyota has a cash rebate of $750 ) and $373/Mo for the 4Runner Sport V6 4WD, with the same terms as the HL. The HL is loaded ( the only things missing are NAV and DVD ), but the 4Runner just has Sunroof, Rear Spoiler and the Upgraded Audio ( MSRP of $31,350 with a similar rebate). There is something wrong with his calculations, definitely on the 4Runner Sport V6 4WD. What do you think ?
I can lease the Acura MDX Base for $399/Mo for $999 down, 36 Months Lease. Do you think that is a better deal than either of the two Toyota's ?
The MDX has a MSRP of $37,420.
On the Internet, I was quoted a MSRP of $34,500 on the MDX and a monthly lease of $370 with $999 down, 36 Months 12 K miles annually. Is that a fair deal for that vehicle a this time ?
Thanks so much. You have been very helpful.
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M35 RWD with journey package only
36 or 39 months, 12 or 15k miles per year.
M35 AWD with journey package only
36 or 39 months, 12 or 15k miles per year.
I've seen somewhere on one of the forums where someone said they received an offer for $499 month for a M35 rwd with journey package for 39 months, 12k miles per year with $1,000 down. Is this even possible?
Thanks
Go to www.carsdirect.com and build this car. Using my ZIP code a $38,205 can be purchased for the no haggle price of $34,422 ($500 over dealer cost).
Then if you go to www.leasecompare.com and plug in these numbers the cost per month for a 48 month lease comes out to around $500 a month.
You should be able to get the GS300 or GS430 for the price you quoted.
Dennis
For cheap 2 yr, the Altima lease deal is hard to beat. $199 a month for a 2.5s with a little out of pocket. For cheap 3 year the Accord LX deal is $199 a money with a little out of pocket.
Keep in mind that with the NY liability laws you will not have an easy time keeping a lease car in NYC.
Dennis
I would suggest getting a copy of your state's lemon law and see what provisions it has and then consult an attorney with some experience in this area.
Some folks think that leasing or financing with the captive finance arm or the company gives them some leverage with these problems. I don't think it helps - you have to keep paying the bills no matter what. Your recourse is with trying to get VW to buy the car back - more or less from itself.
Dennis
Doing a little research for my neighbor (just ordered 545ia on Sat. for myself through Euro. Delv.) and I've got the MF's and residuals for March 3 Series but I'm seeing reference on other postings of "incentives." Is their actual manufacturer money back on any models? I've checked the incentive section of New Cars and I'm not seing it but sometimes, its not the most up to date.
Any info??
thanks and I'll be at the NYC show Friday!!
Sorry to bother you again so soon, but can you please provide the residual and base money factor, both with and without security deposit for the following. Also, any cash incentives or rebates that can be used with leasing that I should be aware of?
36 and 39 months, 12K miles
2005 Honda Accord (4 cyl) Sedan Auto
LX
EX
& Ex w/leather
& LX V-6
Thanks again,
Gregg
Thank you so much for your description of the new BMW 3 series.
Thanks also for the new MSRPs for these vehicles.
hpowders
http://www.edmunds.com/incentives/step1.jsp
Scroll down to BMW, under 3 series over to the rigth is says "marketing support" under manufacturer to dealer. Click on the link and there is a another link for each 3 series sedan (325i, 330i, 325xi, 330xi). It shows $4,000 for the 330xi, $4,200 for the 330i, $1,500 for 325xi, and $2,500 for the 325i.
Dennis
The LX is $199/mo for 36 with $1500 cap cost reduction and $2500 out of pocket. The effective interest is 0.912%
The EX is $249 a month for 36 with the same out of pocket. The effective interest is about 2.7%.
Both have discounts from the dealer figured in (where the dealer makes around $600).
Honda just started a new incentive of up to $600 on Accords. The more a dealer sells, the more the get on each one - up to $600. So at a high volume dealer you should be able to negotiate the price down to dealer cost on this deal.
You can finance any Accord for 2.9% for 60 months as well.
Can't help you with special lease deals on the V-6 models, I don't think they have a special discounted deal like the LX does.
All of this info is available on the Honda page and has been posted in this forum several times now.
Dennis
I need the exact selling price of this car to calculate a lease payment on it for you, but for now I will work up a sample lease payment for you assuming a $1,500 discount. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2005 Lexus ES 330 without navigation, with an MSRP of $38,159 and a selling price of $36,659 through Lexus Financial Services for 4 years with 12,000 miles per, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $455.
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Your dealer will not negotiate the lease-end purchase price of your current car with you because it has no authority to do so. Only the bank that you are leasing your car through can negotiate its purchase price. In order to determine whether you should purchase your vehicle at the end of your lease, you need to compare its purchase price to its value on the open market at this time. Even though it states your car or truck's purchase option price on your lease contract, you should place a call to the bank that you are leasing it through just to make sure that you have the correct figure. When you do so, it never hurts to try to haggle with them. Some banks will negotiate the lease-end purchase prices of vehicles. If your initial contact at your bank is not willing to lower your vehicle's purchase price, you may have better luck if you work your way up the ladder to a manager. There is a good chance that they will not lower your vehicle's price, more often than not they will not, but you don't have anything to lose by asking.
As I said earlier, once you know exactly how much money it is going to cost you to buy your leased vehicle you need to compare it to its current value on the open market. You can find out approximately what your vehicle is worth by looking up its Edmunds.com True Market Value in the Used Vehicle Pricing section of this site. You also may want to stop by the following discussion: "Real-World Trade-In Values". One of our most knowledgeable community members, Terry, frequents that discussion and he is often kind enough to give community members who give him an accurate description of their vehicles with his opinion on their value.
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You can determine approximately how much it will cost you to get out of your current lease by comparing its purchase price to its value on the open market at this time. You should place a call to the bank that you are leasing your vehicle through to find out its exact price. Once you know exactly how much money it is going to cost you to buy your leased vehicle you need to compare it to its current value on the open market. You can find out approximately what your vehicle is worth by looking up its Edmunds.com True Market Value in the Used Vehicle Pricing section of this site. You also may want to stop by the following discussion: "Real-World Trade-In Values". One of our most knowledgeable community members, Terry, frequents that discussion and he is often kind enough to give community members who give him an accurate description of their vehicles with his opinion on their value. Don't forget to check to see if you are still on the hook for your remaining lease payments. The difference between your leased vehicle's current value and how much it will cost you to buy it plus any remaining lease payments that you are obligated to pay will equal the cost of getting out of your lease right now. You may find that you are better off waiting until you are closer to the scheduled end of your lease to get another new vehicle.
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As far as which vehicles have the most attractive lease programs on them right now, I would say that Acura's lease program on the MDX is probably a little better than Toyota's lease programs on the 4Runner and Highlander. This is not only because the MDX has higher residual values, but also because the way that Toyota Financial Services calculates lease payments (not allowing the full residualization of some options) makes it more expensive than it should be to lease through it.
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The Toyota Highlander Limited V6 AWD has a MSRP of $35,355 and the selling price is $32,250 with all the options I am looking for. The Toyota 4Runner V6 4WD Sport, inclusive of the options I, has a MSRP of $33,670 and a selling price of $31,350. Could you let me know what should be the monthly lease payments, with Cap Cost Reduction of no more than $1000 upfront ?
The MDX Premium has a MSRP of $37,420 and the selling price is $34,115. With $999 down, the lease payment I have been quoted is $367.50, which is significantly lower than the $399 lease program from Acura. Is this really a good deal ?
How is the Auto Show ? Did you see the 2006 M Class ? Will there be a good lease program on it at this early stage ? A got an E-Mail from a dealer in NJ, stating that they will have the car by the week-end. Is it worth considering ?
Regards
I'm trying to convince my wife to let me lease a G35 instead of an Accord
1. Accord EX-L V6 Sedan: $23,673 Sales Price; $27,635 MSRP; 36 months/12,000 miles per year.
2. G35 Base Sedan: $28,989 Sales Price; $31,460 MSRP; 39 months/15,000 miles per year.
3. G35 Sedan w/Premium Package C: $32,005 Sales Price; $34,960 MSRP; 39 months/15,000 miles per year.
4. G35x Sedan w/Premium Package C: $33,656 Sales Price; $36,760 MSRP; 39 months/15,000 miles per year.
Also, do these prices assume that I'm also paying an acquisition fee? If so, how much is that and is that included in the payments? I live in Indiana.
Thanks!
Ernest
Help! I am Going today to lease an Audi 1.8 convertible in South Florida. What are the Residual and Money Factors for a24 and 36 month lease.
Also what is audi,s Acquisition fee.
I was wondering if you can help me with a couple items. I am trying to determine which is the better lease program to take on the 2 cars below. I am looking at a 2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe and a Acura TL. Both base model 6 speed MT. Can you give me a lease quote with the rate and residual for 36 or 39 month leases based on sale prices of $1000 over invoice? 15k per year. 0 cap reduction. I am being told some crazy acquisition fees etc when the web sites say differently. I am in FLORIDA if that makes a diff. Also, I am being quoted payments in the 5's on the G Coupe for a base 6 speed. Doesn't add up! Thanks for your help!
Audi = VW and is big problems too.
I have a BMW now and lots of friends with them and they really have taken a downturn in reliability. One had his new 5 replaced since they never could fix it. Very nice driving cars, but I am not sure I could recommend folks get them any more - not even for a lease.
Dennis
MF = 00016 (if Security deposit waived) or 0.00001 if not waived.
It also stated that they are getting 3000 lease cash instead of the 4000 you mentioned and the dealer profit was around $600.
The dealer mentioned to me that given that in order to meet those numbers the initial Cap cost reduction was so low, the GM supplier discount would make no difference.
I think the guy was straightforward but I wonder whether there is someting still wrong in this picture?
Note to everyone: Leases are not for rushing - I had to go several times over the number break-down and I (and the saleman agreed) found out several errors on the numbers.
I forgot to mention that if you agree to pay 0.0001 higher money factor with Honda Financial they will waive the security deposit.
Also, any of the lease deals can be done with nothing up front (just first month's payment) by rolling in the acq fee and security deposit (if any) taxes and tags into the cap cost. Of course, the payment is higher if you do this. You can also put more money down than the promo lease calls for, but why would you?
In the case of the LX promo, with a < 1% money charge I would think a little out of pocket the better - since it is about free money.
Dennis
The only incentives I'm aware of on the STS is a $1500 rebate on cars that have been on dealers' lots more than 120 days.
Before you reply to this message, could you also give me numbers for the Infiniti assuming a $500 higher sales price for each configuration?
So it would be $29,489 for the base G35; $32,505 for the one with the premium package; and $34,156 for the G35x.
The reason I want both sets of numbers is because one dealer is willing to sell me the cars at invoice and other dealer is asking $500 over.
Thanks again!
Ernest
He said that if I leased a car in Illinois, I would have to pay Illinois sales tax (8.75%) on the ENTIRE sales price of the car (not just the depreciation), and in addition I would also pay Indiana sales tax with each lease payment!
So take a car that I can buy for $20,000. He was saying that I would add 8.75% for the Illinois tax ($1,750), thus making the total $21,750. Then the lease payments would be calculated based on that total, and then Indiana sales tax (6%) added to each lease payment.
That seems ridiculous! Was that guy on drugs or something? He said this was some new law as of February.
Ernest
who's right?? I would appreciate any info- I'd like to sign a lease tomorrow.
The figures were based on:
2005 Honda Pilot EX-L
36 months 15000 miles/yr
$0 down 8.75% tax rate
Tax included in payment
money factor= .00154 (approx APR 3.7)
residual value= 58% = $19044.30
lease is based on a selling price of $29179.
I appreciate anyone's help. I am so confused and would like to resolve this so I can sign a lease and feel good about it.
Thanks in advance for your help-
Betsy
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Now, if you lived in Illinois, leased the car, paid tax on the whole thing (that part is correct), then moved to Indiana.... then, you would have to start paying tax on the payment, and would be appropriately screwed...
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kyfdx
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