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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    I wouldn’t kick this one out of bed for eating crackers. Lots of depreciation for a 2019. Close to 40% off MSRP. got just about everything but HK audio. They got similar white one with that but no BLIS or M sport.

    https://www.eimports4less.com/details-2019-bmw-4_series-certified_430i_xdrive_gc_m_sport_awd_navigation_hud_camera_blis-used-wba4j3c50kbl06255.html

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    If every unit of a particular model I looked at either was rotted underneath, or not running well enough to test drive, I wold take it as a hint to move on!

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    Nice color combo on that 430. But having had the non-HK audio, you'd probably want that. The HK audio isn't great, but it is leaps and bounds above the standard which is really sub-par.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    This one is prettier colors. A few less miles, a little less money. But trades KK for BLIS. Not a trade I prefer to make. No clue why an executive car just didn’t have the driver assist package too. It’s standard even on a $20k Hyundai Elantra!

    https://www.eimports4less.com/details-2019-bmw-4_series-certified_430i_xdrive_gran_coupe_sport_awd_hud_led_hk_nav_cam-used-wba4j3c52kbl07973.html

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    Also sacrifices M-Sport.

    Just watched another video about the GLI where the reviewers pointed out no less than 3 rattles in their relatively low mile press car.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    I don't think I would miss the M sport. Isn't that mostly trim items anyway?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    I guess it includes a sportier suspension set up. Would have to drive both ways to see if it makes enough of a difference to care about. We would be more about comfort than tracking!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    ab348 said:

    I dunno, Q., it looks like it is is great condition, but for a car that is almost 12 model years old with 100K miles that seems like a lot of money.

    well, its worth what its worth. Their price is definitely "cheeky." My offer, if I make an offer, would be $9k OTD. I'm perusing still, though. Would like to find one in a better color, and possibly even with the 2011 facelift. OR a similar Challenger. At the same time, for $9k, I have plenty of room for mods. :)

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,698
    stickguy said:

    I don't think I would miss the M sport. Isn't that mostly trim items anyway?

    I do believe for an AWD model, the M-sport does indeed amount to cosmetics (body kit, wheels, steering wheel).

    But I will say, that M-sport steering wheel feels great!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    not like the old E46 days, where you had to get the sport package for the 3 spoke wheel!

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,756
    qbrozen said:

    Someone talk me out of it

    The only thing I can say is that the automatic would be a strong case for continuing to look. Otherwise, seems like a lot of car.
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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,537
    I reached out to the SM at my parent's Ford dealer since their sales person is either out of the office or just not responding. Simple request, 24/12 lease on an F-150. Received a reply within 5 minutes that just said the dealer has an Internet department for this very purpose, please send the request through them, and asked why I would go to him for a price quote. OK then...
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    pensfan83 said:

    I reached out to the SM at my parent's Ford dealer since their sales person is either out of the office or just not responding. Simple request, 24/12 lease on an F-150. Received a reply within 5 minutes that just said the dealer has an Internet department for this very purpose, please send the request through them, and asked why I would go to him for a price quote. OK then...

    How about that customer service for you...sheesh
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312

    Nice color combo on that 430. But having had the non-HK audio, you'd probably want that. The HK audio isn't great, but it is leaps and bounds above the standard which is really sub-par.

    Yep. H-K, M Sport, CWP, amd RWD are baseline minimums for any F3X I'd consider.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,537

    pensfan83 said:

    I reached out to the SM at my parent's Ford dealer since their sales person is either out of the office or just not responding. Simple request, 24/12 lease on an F-150. Received a reply within 5 minutes that just said the dealer has an Internet department for this very purpose, please send the request through them, and asked why I would go to him for a price quote. OK then...

    How about that customer service for you...sheesh
    Same dealer who refused to offer any goodwill toward my mom's infotainment repair until my dad went above the service manager. Ever since the original owners were bought out by a larger dealer group about 12 years ago things have gone downhill. My parents have been unfailingly loyal to this store since the 80's but the past few years that loyalty has been tested and I think this might be what pushes them to a new store if not to a new brand altogether.
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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    Ford dealers are all over the place, they should be able to find one somewhere nearby that will treat them well. That being said, I live in a city with two Ford plants, and the only good service experiences I've had are with the dealer in the sketchy part of town. The one in the gentrified part of town totally blew it--and didn't care at all when I dinged them on the survey.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    Nice color. Looks clean and carfax supports that. And only 3,000 miles away!

    A guy in my neighborhood has a yellow Daytona like that. Sharp.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,849
    Good friends of ours just love bright colors like that.

    His - New style Charger in Plum
    Hers - New style Wrangler UL in lime green

    I'm not usually a fan of those types of colors, but the orange works on the Charger.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    That's the color I was looking at for the i3. Figure if you're going to go quirky, you might as well go big!
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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    I like the orange and the stripes, and I normally hate decals. Not having radio controls on the steering wheel would drive me nuts. I’m actually thinking of getting a Bluetooth remote that clips on the steering wheel of the Tahoe so I can skip ads on podcasts I’m playing via the aux cable. It has audio controls on the wheel, just no smartphone integration.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    corvette said:

    Not having radio controls on the steering wheel would drive me nuts.

    Now why did you have to go point that out? lol.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,333
    Can't un-see that now.

    My bigger issue is one sided steering wheel controls. Either have them on both sides or not at all.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,698
    This Dodge/Hemi talk makes me nostalgic for my Durango. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have just stuck with that...lot of fun and enjoyment for the money.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    Some Jeeps and possibly other CJDR products had the controls on the back side of the steering wheel, but I don’t think the Challenger and 300 were one of them.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,698
    This is a bit flashy, but a rare color and the Hemi to back it up.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/785652773/overview/?isShippableInsideSearchRadius

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    I like that G wagon. A lot.

    I thought though one reason for dumping the Stelvio was not easily getting texts while driving? Aren’t these older designs all going to be useless for that?

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    @breld how did I know that you’d be browsing after saying you should’ve kept the Durango?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    Say goodbye to the A5!

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    stickguy said:

    I thought though one reason for dumping the Stelvio was not easily getting texts while driving? Aren’t these older designs all going to be useless for that?

    Don’t try to woo us with logic here! That said, bad or inconsistently functioning infotainment is worse than no infotainment at all.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    corvette said:

    stickguy said:

    I thought though one reason for dumping the Stelvio was not easily getting texts while driving? Aren’t these older designs all going to be useless for that?

    Don’t try to woo us with logic here! That said, bad or inconsistently functioning infotainment is worse than no infotainment at all.
    LOL. Yes, believe me, Stick, that occurred to me. However, what also occurs to me is that swapping out the infotainment for an aftermarket unit in an older vehicle you own outright is far far less frowned upon than doing so in a new leased vehicle. :p

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    corvette said:

    Ford dealers are all over the place, they should be able to find one somewhere nearby that will treat them well. That being said, I live in a city with two Ford plants, and the only good service experiences I've had are with the dealer in the sketchy part of town. The one in the gentrified part of town totally blew it--and didn't care at all when I dinged them on the survey.

    Let me guess; Oxmorons?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236

    corvette said:

    Ford dealers are all over the place, they should be able to find one somewhere nearby that will treat them well. That being said, I live in a city with two Ford plants, and the only good service experiences I've had are with the dealer in the sketchy part of town. The one in the gentrified part of town totally blew it--and didn't care at all when I dinged them on the survey.

    Let me guess; Oxmorons?
    Yes. Service advisor was out sick and they effectively told me that there was nobody else in the building who could tell me whether my Mustang was ready to be picked up or even where it was. Imbeciles.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    There’s a B5 Blue 2016 Charger Scat Pack for sale about two minutes from where I work. Really cool looking with black wheels and red Brembo calipers.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    One of the benefits of my wife's job was that it was less than 3 miles from our house. She had her 1st interview today at a hospital about 30 miles north of us. Let's see how things shake out, but we put close to 18,000 miles per year on her Pilot when her job was close. We might have to do something with the current fleet.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889

    There’s a B5 Blue 2016 Charger Scat Pack for sale about two minutes from where I work. Really cool looking with black wheels and red Brembo calipers.

    So discussion with my little one yesterday went something like this (obviously, I am summarizing what was probably an hour of back and forth):

    me: so what do you think? (showing him pic of white charger I drove)
    him: That's a garbage car! It belongs in the garbage! Ew!
    me: well we can make it look better.
    him: no.
    me: is this more to your liking? (showing him pic of black SRT8 with all the doodads)
    him: now THAT'S the opposite of a garbage car! Get that one!
    ... after explaining to him that these cars are exactly the same and its just cosmetics, we get into color discussion...
    me: I would choose purple first, then orange, then B5 blue, then red, THEN black.
    him: Purple??! Why would anyone want a purple car?!
    me: It is a classic famous color, called Plum Crazy. Its limited edition and rare and very very cool. Then there is the orange, also rare, and with the black graphics is very cool ... do you remember Snot Rod from Cars? Like that.
    him: What's B5 Blue?
    me: very similar to the Coronet.
    him: Then you need that one. B5 Blue. Get it.

    I then pondered the quirkiness of having a '67 Coronet R/T AND maybe an '07 Charger R/T, both in "b5 blue." Alas, they didn't offer it in '07, nor in '12 (45 yrs apart), but they did offer a couple of somewhat similar blues in 2012.

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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,190
    xwesx said:

    ronsteve said:


    I drove 2 hrs from Wilmington to Raleigh to get my Accord back in '02. Local dealer had bump stickers and gave me a generally slimy feel but no test drive. When I was ready to buy I sent some emails, to which two dealers in Raleigh responded with solid numbers and Wilmington said "come see us."

    Doesn't surprise me one bit. My brother bought a car in Wilmington, and I had to deal with the guy at the dealership. Slimy indeed.

    Did you have the GM's worrrrrrd on it? ;)
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,849
    I’m sure the Charger has steering wheel audio controls. Chrysler is weird... they are behind the spokes of the wheel

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,433
    Like the X3. But not color combo.

    Here’s one for RB

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-bmw-m6-57/

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,182
    qbrozen said:
    You really want the 2007-2010 with the upgraded 255 HP engine (that feels like 300 HP), instead of the 225 HP from that year.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    kyfdx said:

    qbrozen said:
    You really want the 2007-2010 with the upgraded 255 HP engine (that feels like 300 HP), instead of the 225 HP from that year.
    You forget I've been shopping for a 5-cyl Hummer. Speed on this vehicle isn't my top concern. haha.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,236
    Poking around the Ford dealer’s website, it appears an F-150 XL with the STX package is really well equipped and could potentially replace the Tahoe one day. Parking sensors are optional on that trim and they’re not commonly equipped that way, and no BLIS is offered. Besides that, HID/LED headlights are the only other thing I’d really like to have.
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 6,952
    Looks like more weather could be on the way. So tired of these hurricanes!! Driveway guy came and gave me two options for doing the driveway...one less pricey good for a couple of years and another more pricey but they add more asphalt and will last a longer time. He saw my garage floor and showed me an option for doing that, something I’d love to do actually. So now have to sit down and think what to do here. Gonna get flack no matter what so just need to decide how much I really want to spend.
    Thinking is when we do sell, new owner will want to get a concrete driveway anyways so best to go the cheaper route if it could get me the few years I need to get out of this old shack!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,056

    Looks like more weather could be on the way. So tired of these hurricanes!! Driveway guy came and gave me two options for doing the driveway...one less pricey good for a couple of years and another more pricey but they add more asphalt and will last a longer time. He saw my garage floor and showed me an option for doing that, something I’d love to do actually. So now have to sit down and think what to do here. Gonna get flack no matter what so just need to decide how much I really want to spend.
    Thinking is when we do sell, new owner will want to get a concrete driveway anyways so best to go the cheaper route if it could get me the few years I need to get out of this old shack!

    I thought you were planning to sell and move north soon - doesn't seem to make any sense to make that kind of investment, when it's pretty clear that you won't be able to recoup that cost in an increased asking price.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,756
    tjc78 said:

    Good friends of ours just love bright colors like that.

    His - New style Charger in Plum
    Hers - New style Wrangler UL in lime green

    I'm not usually a fan of those types of colors, but the orange works on the Charger.

    Nice combo there! Those colors actually work very well together.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,756
    Michaell said:


    I thought you were planning to sell and move north soon - doesn't seem to make any sense to make that kind of investment, when it's pretty clear that you won't be able to recoup that cost in an increased asking price.

    Depends on the price of the work, but he very well could. A presentable driveway makes a great first impression.
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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,537
    Love this one and arguably a clean example.
    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-volkswagen-rabbit-3/

    I'm being teased with G-Body's (too much $$ for me though)
    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-buick-grand-national-34/

    This looks like fun.
    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-volkswagen-r32-32-2/

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,756
    pensfan83 said:
    Nice. This car looks so much better in blue. One of the fathers at my daughter's school has one he uses to drop off his kids every day. Three of them.... all pile out. It's fun to see. Looks like a fun car, too.... year round!

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