Ford Escort ZX2

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  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    maybe because no one is posting?
  • dnvadnva Member Posts: 1
    I have a 98 ZX2 and love it. For the last 6mo its been starting very hard. 1st I replaced the battery, nothing. Then I did full tune up (plug, wires, filters, fluid, etc), still nothing. I'm about out of ideas. Anyone else seen this? hats the fix?
  • ralex2ralex2 Member Posts: 287
    Have you noticed anything else at all? I'd think about changing the fuel filter if it's still on the original. It's my understanding that there is some real crappy gas being distributed these days, but if may just be a midwest problem.
  • wmoosewmoose Member Posts: 2
    I have a 98 zx2 loved it it had over 96000 miles on it. I bought it new. Wasn't real easy on her but had alot of fun in it. it was black five speed. Now I need a new engine . any one suggest one besides a dealer one?
  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    moose:

    try salvage yards

    here's one of the websites that help you find the right junk dealer

    http://copartfinder.com/cgi-bin/select.dtw/disp


    dnva:

    how about the coil? did you change that?

  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    photog:
    I know what you mean.
    One night I took my son to NoVa night school at South Lakes HS where they borrow classrooms.
    There was a "rocket car" parked there. And it had regular Virginia license plates, so it was probably driven regularly.
    I can't describe it other than: it was the top half of a jet plane with plexiglas cockpit and sharp nose, with two seats one behind the other, an airplane type steering wheel, one front wheel and two rear which I assume are the drive wheels.
    Wish I had my camera with me!
    From now on it's going to be beside me all the time.
  • mcalvert1mcalvert1 Member Posts: 25
    LOL! I'd love to have seen that. I often joke with my friends about cars that were specifically built for ludicrous speed, and nothing else. Generally something like what the Wiley Coyote would buy from acme (you know, the red rocket with tiny little airplane wheels that he rides like a horse). One friend found an MR2 with a jet engine on ebay. It was pretty funny too. I believe the auction said it idled at 25,000 RPMs, redlined at 75,000 RPMs.

    MjC
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    With me there really isn't much of an excuse for not grabbing a photo of it. I was in hurry sure as the mall closed in 10 minutes, but I could have gotten off at least one or two. As for cameras I often have two or three cameras in my car. I even have a couple of rolls of Kodak Press 400 (a film designed for press photogs to withstand high temps and not lose colour) sitting in my car for emergencies such as this.

    As for a rocket car...
    This ZX2 may or may not have been one. I only saw the exterior and only glanced at it for a minute or two. Before I was off and running to the mall. If your curious Rick it was outside the Food Court entrance lower level at Dulles Town Center (which is very close to where I live).

    In any event this car looked more classey than fast. Though I did rather like the aggressive style of those wheels and the F1 tires. I have a feeling though given the amount of money obvously spent on the cosmetics, the internals must also have been modified to match.
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    Last sunday I filled up my ZX2's Gas tank and the gauge only went to the half way mark. So I shut off the engine and restarted it. THen the gas gauge went to the full mark.

    Fearing this maybe a problem I went and mentioned it to Ford on Tuesday as I was having an oil change and my 15,000 mile service. THe diagnoses: I had only shut off the engine and not the electrical system when I stopped the car to fill up. At the time my girlfriend was listening to something on the radio and I had left the power but not the engine on.

    As I said mildly interesting problem and resolution.

    PS.: For any would be ZX2 buyers in Northern Virginia, Tedd Britt Ford Currently has 6 new cars on the lot.
  • floridianfloridian Member Posts: 219
    for all you folks in Central Ohio Rikert Ford South of Columbus has over 100 ZX2's in stock !! get 'em while their HOT LOL !!

    Floridian
  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    This is funny, it looks like ZX2s are selling better than the Mercury Cougars.
    So there is still a market for low end two door econoboxes.
    But this particular segment in the USA no longer likes hatchbacks it seems.
    Interesting how America will react to the forthcoming ZX5. Yup, a Focus hatchback with four doors - the bestselling Focus model in Europe.
  • ralex2ralex2 Member Posts: 287
    What's the difference between a four door hatchback and a station wagon? Personally, I think the the term "four door hatchback" is more logical. "Station Wagon" really sounds goofy and doesn't convey information. I'd bet the 5 door flops.
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    When I read Ricks post that very same thing went through my mind. Beyond Semantics what is the difference? Unless it where to feature some sort of improvements to the loading, I can't see it selling any better than the existing Focus Station wagon.

    I might add if I was looking for a new Station Wagon I would consider the Focus. IT's actaully not a bad car at all. Of course given the price I might also be looking at a Subaru or another small station wagon.
  • ralex2ralex2 Member Posts: 287
    I drove an Escort Wagon for a couple of years - one of my darker periods. In retrospect, I have to say that it was incredibly useful. More interior space than the "mini utes" and being front wheel drive, it handled our limited snowfalls as well as a 4wd. Initial cost was low and it was dirt cheap to maintain and operate - disgustingly practical. I think the Focus Wagon is a neat buggy and probably better engineered than most SUVs. Of course you don't get that large tired, high rider, suburb status that every soccer mom demands. Somehow, I don't think the Focus wagon would do summersaults just because a tire came unglued. It's amazing that people will spend so much money and sacrifice so much performance for style. I tend to be a "form follows function" kind of guy. I would trade most of the cars on the road today even up for my old "83 GTI. If Ford ever straightens out the Focus hatch back I'll trade my ZX2 for one. Ford probably isn't going to straighten out anything for a long, long time though. The only way to get a European hatch back will probably be to buy a Janpanese hatchback :) Why do Americans tend to dislike two door hatchbacks? Is it that Gremlin aftertaste? Lord! I'm beginning to sound like Andy Rooney. Quick, somebody hide my keyboard.
  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    ralex and photog:
    My guess is that Americans are shying away from smaller cars in general. Maybe it's the perception that small cars are for high school kids and girlie girls. So cars like the Suzuki Swift, Ford Fiesta, even the Civic hatchback are no longer sold in this market.
    Or maybe it's the realization that smaller cars tend to protect you less in crashes with trucks and SUVs.
    And also perhaps because Americans became more prosperous in the 90s, therefore able to buy more highend transportation. I remember when it seemed like everyone had a bare bones compact pickup truck for personal transportation. Well all these little pickup trucks grew and now they all are the size of the Ranger or even bigger.
    And tons of comfort options added on like A/C, heated leather seats and CD players.
    I guess form no longer follows function these days for many folks.

    Anyway back to the Station Wagon visavis a 5 door hatchback as Ford likes to call it.
    From the small photos Ford has on their website, the small difference I see is that the hatch is on a diagonal angle whereas the wagon's window is more vertical.
    And the 'rump' is slightly longer by an inch or two on the wagon. Otherwise, everything should be the same.
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    Rick several posts ago you mentioned a custom car with and aircraft canopy. Today I saw it for about 8 seconds. It was turning on to Georgetown pike from RT7. It was yellow with a black lightning bolt painted on the side. The body was a two seat configuration with large outrigger wheels.

    I would have chased it down but I was running late for work and didn't have the time.
  • charliemikecharliemike Member Posts: 87
    I drove 500 miles today in 100 degree heat with the A/C on and still managed 30mpg. I set the cruise control at 75mph while on the highway.

    I'd say that was pretty darn strong. =)
  • frontiergirlfrontiergirl Member Posts: 4
    I have the greatest 2000 ZX2 and I love it, its been the best car. My teenagers don't like the back seat its to small (my son is 5'8") I need some advice about the automatics. A knee injury is forcing me to switch to an auto trans. Can anyone give me some info. I'm going to miss the 5speed, its a lot of fun. Thank you so much.
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    Everyone comlains about the strange smells that seem to come from peoples AC units right? Well I think I have the weirdest so far...

    What would you say if the AC was emiting a slightly "minty mildew" smell? At first I thought it was all in my mind. But I have been smelling it for the past several days, ans then I gave a ride to a freind and he remarked upon it. If I didn't better I would swear someone had poured some minty mouth wash in my vents as a joke. I am not going to complain too much as it is not an entirely unpleasent smell. However what the devil could cause smell of mint in my car? I haven't been using any strange fabric freshener, and about the only mints I keep in my car are a box of altoids that I keep in the Centre console.

    I only smell the aroma when the AC is running full and I have checked all my vents and as many filters as I can to see what the strange problem is...

    As I said very weird...
  • cdoseckcdoseck Member Posts: 2
    Photog, Ford has issued a technical service bulletin for "air conditioning musty and mildew type odors." I believe the problem is caused by mold that grows in the vents under humid conditions, but I can't explain your minty smell.
    Ford should spray some stuff in your vents to kill this if you go to them, but the guys at zx2.org recommend that you just spray your favorite scent of air freshener directly into the vents.
    I dunno know. Hope this helps, anyway.
  • gggplaya2gggplaya2 Member Posts: 1
    I don't know if this really helps or not but whenever i floor the gas i get that smell. It's from the A/c Compressor turning off automatically for more power. It might not be the same thing but oh well.
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    I was telling that pretty German Girl I have fallen in love about the "minty" fresh Mildew smell (she is at the moment in Canada). And she confessed to a little accident in my car. It seems on one of our over night excursions a bottle of Scope had come open in and spilled all over the rear floor. Most of the stuff spilled it seems was under front pasenger seat. Conspicuously in the area around that little known vent under that seat. After the little confession I went and stuck my nose to the rear floor and sure enough the aroma of mint was strongest there.

    Though I am slighty annoyed that she didn't tell me about it. There realy isn't any evidence of staining on the carpet. So I will I am inclined to let it pass. In truth I am amazed that I didn't notice the smell sooner.

    At any rate case solved...
  • smokeyjoesmokeyjoe Member Posts: 13
    Hi all,

    Has anyone noticed that when you fill up your tank to the second click (as the manual suggests), you are just barely riding the "F" mark on the fuel gauge? I have found that if I just keep creeping gas into the tank, I can get another gallon in it, which then allows the needle to get on (or just past) the "F". Is this a common occurance with ZX2s?

    Oh...and when I originally filled it to only the second click, I saw I only had 120 miles on the odometer when the gauge was at the halfway (6.4 gallons) point, meaning I would have only been getting 20 MPG. No when I get that extra gallon in there, it won't get to the halfway point until I'm at 150+ miles.

    Any other similar experiences?

    Joe
  • ralex2ralex2 Member Posts: 287
    Its the nature of fuel gauges to be less than accurate. They are only able to give you an approximation of the fluid level in the tank. They will be affected by sharp turns, braking, acceleration, road crown, etc. Smaller tanks tend to make the inaccuracy more obvious. I suspect that they are set up in such a way that they will reach "E" BEFORE you run out of fuel. Thus sloppiness at the "F" end of the scale is tolerated. I can't remember owning a car that got anywhere near the same mileage on the top half and bottom of the tank. It's pointless to calculate fuel economy with your fuel guage. At best, it's just a "reminder."
  • ralex2ralex2 Member Posts: 287
    I don't remember hearing the results of your ZX2 / Tiburon grudge race? Did the feminine element of the family black flag it?
  • floridianfloridian Member Posts: 219
    ralex2: We have yet to run the big drag race. had to take time off for some family business that resulted in three (count 'em) round trips to Ohio. Close to 9k of driving (not in the Tib)in the last 7 weeks or so. We will have to go to Orlando on a Fri, evening as that's the only track that's open for "ricers" to run in this neck of the woods that I know of. Can't risk any street 'racin as the local law is REALLY cracking down on that stuff since a couple of horrible crashes during outlaw street racing. My son is NOT gonna let me off the hook tho. He's got to show pappy how it's done LOL. He may be in for a surprise. I was able to run a few timed runs @ a friends private air strip and it looks pretty good for the Tib vs the ZX2. We'll see. All in good fun but he won't run for "pink slips" LOL !

    Floridian
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    This week I saw ugliest ZX2 custom paint job so far. Envision a Silver ZX2 with black paint streaked along the sides, with conventional plain wheels also in black. Apart from the silver body paint there was NO chrome or Aluminum to be seen. I only saw it for about a minute or so but it really was ugly to see.
  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    frontiergirl:
    a little bit late for my comment, but here goes anyway. I have a manual myself. In the online forums dedicated to the ZX2, a lot of the enthusiasts own auto ZX2s. In fact some of them actually drag race them (only at legal race tracks of course). They could be 1 - 2 seconds slower accelerating 0-60MPH than manuals, therefore going 8-9 secs rather than 7.6 secs on 0-60mph. But they will still give you that nice sporty feel. The gas mileage is just slightly less by a gallon or two mainly because the auto has 4 gears instead of 5. So I say, go ahead and get an auto.

    But, if you need real back seat space I'm afraid you will have to give up the sporty coupes entirely.
    You will have to go with a four door Toyota Camry or Honda Accord or Oldsmobile Alero(lots of incentives right now). Unfortunately these are all at least $5,000 more than a ZX2. All the other subcompacts like Mazda Protege or Toyota Corolla have similarly small rear space. Some may have more headroom than the coupes, but will have very similar knee-room and foot-room. Sorry I don't know what else to call it when you have little space to put your size 11+ feet.

    Now if your teenage son complains about the back seat because he can't get enough of his friends in the car, I might say ignore him. Having more than two teenage boys in a car leads to bravado, braggadaccio, grandstanding, fast driving and illegal street racing. That's a scientifically proven fact! ;>]
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    The other day I was going through an old Brief Case and stumbled upon a roll of film. This roll was of a Red ZX2 S/R I took pictures of last year, following the demise my Black and just before I purchased my Tropic Green ZX2s. Believe it or not the roll was quite clear despite being in a Brief case located in my trunk for the past year. I only had an index sheet made up for it as I was uncertain if they would come out. I will be posting some of the images on my web sight in the coming weeks.

    I still kick myself for going for that ZX2 as it really was a nice one. Oh well we must try and look to the future as we can.
  • photog0264photog0264 Member Posts: 314
    All seems quiet in here... I don't have any real news myself to say that at about 15,000 miles... It seems as if my tires are wearing out a little quicker than normal. How long do most peoples Goodyear RS tires last? I am planning on replacing them in the not too far future with the GTs, but at the present rate it seems like I maybe replacing them sooner than later...

    Also it seems as if everyone in Virginia Beach has a ZX2. I saw several sitting beside mine at couple of traffic lights. Sort of weird actauly I almost felt like a honda owner a couple times.
  • floridianfloridian Member Posts: 219
    photog:My son's much flogged ZX had it's RS shoes replaced @ 32,000 miles. They are out in my shop right now, Measured the tread, three have over 5/32" left and one over 1/4". The 1/4" one was replaced early on as the original destroyed itself ala Firestone for some reason. The ZX has Pirielli boots now and they run very quietly compared to the racket the Goodyears made. he has total of 50K on the car.It will be needing a new serpentine belt soon but the timing belt looks like new. I must note that HIS car visits red line VERY often so to be on the safe side I think it'll get a new one @ 60K.

    Regards Floridian
  • ralex2ralex2 Member Posts: 287
    My factory tires had to go at 27,000. They just weren't round anymore. Well, one was out of round and one had a knot on it. Man I was glad to get rid of them. My new skins are nothing fancy but they are whole bunch stickier and they don't make any noise at all compared to those howling Goodyears. If I had known how much better the car would be with a real tire, I would have peeled the Goodyears off the same day I bought the car. If you are on the OEM tire, dump it just as fast as your wallet will let you.
  • mcalvert1mcalvert1 Member Posts: 25
    I've been thinking about wheels and tires for my Z for a long time. But I really don't have any knowledge about that sort of thing. So what kind of money are we talking about for 4 wheels, maybe 15" and good quality tires to go with 'em? I know that leaves a huge price range, but I mean, can I get something worth having for under $1k?

    MjC
  • ralex2ralex2 Member Posts: 287
    You'll do fine without breaking the 1k barrier. There are some decent 89 dollar tires out there and that will leave plenty for wheels. Start here http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp and remember you're shopping for Escort goodies, not Porsche. It doesn't take much to improve on the factory stuff. If you go with 205's, make sure you have room for them. Not all 205's are the same width and your rim choice will have something to do with it as well. Space is tight on the rear end.
  • freddy_kfreddy_k Member Posts: 376
    I'm still around, keeping tabs on this topic. I haven't completely abandoned the Z. And besides, it looks like you need a Canadian around here ;-)

    Anyway I had replaced the wheels, I find the factory rims as bad as the tires. I paid $1600 cdn, equal to just over a grand us. The wheels are nice 16", and the tires are 205 yokahomas which are above average, but certainly not high performance. I also have winter tires on the factory rims, not included in the in that cost.
    High end rubber seems like a waste of cash to me for these types of cars. They wear out faster and their limits exceed the limits of the car.
    I'm using the same rims and rubber onto my Miata. I sold the Z with the factories, which were pretty much brand new.
  • charliemikecharliemike Member Posts: 87
    I got 17" Mille Miglia Spiders and Kumho Ecsta Supra 712s.

    I paid $139 each for the wheels plus $89 for the tires. The Tire Rack mounted and balanced the tires on the wheels then shipped me the whole lot for very cheap.

    I think I spent around $1000 for the set. The Kumhos are the best tires I've ever had and the stock tires are no competition for them.
  • ralex2ralex2 Member Posts: 287
    Just curious - how wide are your rims and what size are your Kumhos?
  • charliemikecharliemike Member Posts: 87
    I'm running 205/45-17.

    I wanna say the rims are 17x7 but I cannot be sure. I just went with what Tirerack told me.
  • freddy_kfreddy_k Member Posts: 376
    Seems kind of odd, I was running 205/45-16. It sounds like you're speedo is going to be off by a decent margin.
  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    Watch this page:

    http://carview.msn.co.uk/autoshow/frankfurt/

    for Ford Focus-based coupe 'Start' unveiling at the Frankfurt Auto Show Media days on Tuesday!


    If you haven't read the article yet, go to http://www.autoexpress.co.uk then do a search for Ford (upper lefthand corner) and click on the

    Ford to Unveil Focus Coupe result button.

    Whether we like it or not, the Mazda 323-based ZX2 is going away and the Focus is the only possible basis for a U.S. 2003 ZX2.

    Note that in Europe, they do not use the Focus ZX3 and ZX5 monikers so whatever they will call this coupe in Europe may not be its name in the US.

  • TMURFTMURF Member Posts: 10
    GOD BLESS AMERICA
  • charliemikecharliemike Member Posts: 87
    Sorry, I'm running 205/40/17s.

    Stock is 185/60/15.
  • floridianfloridian Member Posts: 219
    Saw a 2002 ZX yesterday. No obvious changes except the "swirlie" alloys are gone and some pretty nice "spokers" in their place.

    Floridian
  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    The announcement at Franfurt IAA by Pininfarina said their concept car has "no production prospects" and is a "pure exercise in design".

    Their design called for a turbocharged Duratec 2.0L inline 4 cylinder engine developing 200HP to be built on a Focus next-generation platform. A unique feature of the concept car is that a push of a button turns the coupe into a cabrio, pushing the top into its storage space in the trunk. BTW, Ford is now starting to put Duratec engines in its cars and it is still the same design of engine as the Zetecs. However the whole engine is now aluminum whereas the Zetec has an iron block and aluminum head. I understand the Duratec 2.3L is now in the Ranger pickups.


    Here is the picture from Car Connection

    image


    and the story from the Pininfarina web site:

    http://www.pininfarina.it/eng/press/frankfort/franco_06.htm
    I hope Ford builds this as the next ZX2 for America!

  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    It's also very SC430/350Z looking.
  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    And you should see the new Tibby, which will be here soon, not just a concept car like this one. Unfortunately, neither Toyota or Nissan can take credit for this type of design.

    The car looks like an evolution of the Cougar and Puma concepts which are part of Ford's "New Edge" design theme. All modern "edgy" designs are influenced by Nick Pugh, the guy who did the Xeno project.

    He studied at the Art Center Colleg of Design in Pasadena where he influenced his peers, his teachers and students who followed him.

    He designed for various car manufacturers on contract. His peers also went to work for various manufacturers. His influence is seen in cars as different as the Mitsubishi Eclipse, the Toyota Celica, the Cadillac Evo concept car, Mustang, Cougar, Focus, etc. etc.


    Quotes from Wired magazine:

    In 1989, during a six-month internship at Renault's design department in Paris, Pugh discovered deconstructivist architecture. Forms and compositions by Lebbeus Woods and other avant-garde architects influenced Pugh's developing style - one already shaped by fractal mathematics. (Both his father and his stepmother are mathematicians, and his father is famous in academic circles for demonstrating that it is possible to turn a sphere inside out without breaking its surface.) Back at Art Center that winter, Pugh created the first version of the Xeno as a series of drawings and a one-fifth-scale model - soft and rounded in back, sharp in front.


    "Is this the back or the front?" demanded Mazda's general manager of design, Shigenori Fukuda, when he saw the sinuous car on display at the Art Center gallery in 1990. But his colleague Tom Matano, creator of the Miata, seized on the drawings immediately. Other industry executives - all of whom regularly scout the school for new recruits - were equally impressed.


    "Nick was by far the most talented designer at Art Center at that time," says Chip Foose, the freelance designer credited with the Plymouth Prowler hot rod. Pugh's style rippled through the industry, absorbed by visiting execs and carried by classmates to offices in Detroit and beyond.


    "Nick is plagiarized constantly," attests Porsche designer Jason C. Hill. "I interviewed a guy recently, and he showed me four cars from his portfolio. One was his; the other three were basically Nick Pugh designs he'd copied."


    Bumsuk Lim, VP of the concept-car company Creative Development, tells a similar tale: "Pugh's influence was felt instantly around the world. When I was at Wave, Honda's advanced-concept studio in Tokyo, students turned a Nick Pugh sketch of a new Corvette into a full-size model and presented it as their own. It's the terrible nature of the business."


    One schoolmate of Pugh's landed at Ford, which launched its New Edge design program soon thereafter. The Synergy 2010, the first New Edge concept car, makes the most literal reference to the first Xeno in its combination of rounded forms and sharp edges and in the overall proportions of the body. In 1997, Ford executives contacted Pugh to discuss acquiring the fuel-storage patents he'd developed for the Xeno (the company eventually went with a different option). The new Mercury Cougar, with its sleek, lunging body and crisp, diagonal lines, also evokes Pugh's style, as does the Cadillac EVO concept car. As Greg Brew, assistant chair of the Art Center transportation department, puts it, "the whole Ford New Edge design program owes its ancestry to Nick Pugh."


    The full article:

    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.01/pugh.html


    and Nick Pugh's web page:

    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.01/pugh.html

    Enjoy!

  • freddy_kfreddy_k Member Posts: 376
    The Tuscani replacing the Tibby looks nice, and they've replaced the engine with a v6. It'll be interesting to see what it can do.
  • atomtan2atomtan2 Member Posts: 6
    Hello All,
    I was feeling rather patriotic since the turn of events that transpired in N. Y. and D.C. so instead of purchasing a 2k1 isuzu rodeo I opted for a 2k2 silver frost clear coat metallic zx2 w/6cd changer w/cassette,premium package,power,tilt cruise,no abs, w/moon roof and a 5 speed. I was also looking at a 2k1 zx2 fully loaded w/leather(no abs)for the same price but I opted for the 2k2. After tax,tag,and rebate the purchase price was 14.2k..14.325 for the car, $860 tax - 1k rebate. Was this a decent deal or could I have got a better one? The dealer thru in a bra. I am a 40 year old father of three and I thought this would be a little zippy car to commute 45 mile a day to work. After driving it for two days I was getting a little claustophobic (I'm 6'2" 240 lbs.)but after some seat adjustments I am getting used to it. It seems fun to drive so far . I will probably drive it for a year or two then turn it over to my Dtr.. My first tankful got 26.2 miles to the gallon. I thought it would get better. Possibly when the motor breaks in. I have read alot of previous posts and I hope I made the right decision.
  • rickgonzrickgonz Member Posts: 87
    Congratulations on your new car atomtan2.
    You'll find your car a nice little sporty thing that's got lots of value for so little money. And yes, you did well on the price. There would have been some $11000 cars but they would have been stripped, no power windows, no CD player, no sun roof, etc. And since Ford is giving out up to $2000 on 2001 models, there might have been cheaper ones. Still you have the satisfaction of a brand spanking new one.

    The mileage you got is actually pretty good for a start. My car (my son's car till his license was taken away from him) now has 18k, and still can only get 26mpg. Perhaps its due to the way I drive with lead foot sometimes.
    Cheers!
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Member Posts: 854
    I'm amazed that the ZX2 is still around for 2002. I would have guessed by now they would be gone. But, if it still sells, why drop it? Still, I betm that there won't be any in 2003.

    I almost got one in 1997 and got a bigger Contour instead.
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