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snakeweasel · June 2020

explorerx4 said:
CT drivers are better than I thought. Nobody hit this wrong way driver.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/wrong-way-driver-drives-for-miles-on-i-395-in-montville/ar-BB15kevj?ocid=hplocalnews

Must be English.

pensfan83 · June 2020

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:

pensfan83 said:

roadburner said:
I keep a small spiral notebook for each car to record maintenance. I like to have the ability to know when and at what mileage maintenance was performed.
I do the same except in Excel and only for the Honda and BMW. The other 2 are leases and need nothing more than oil changes, rotations, and differential fluid changes so I just rely on the maintenance reminder in both.
Same here.
You can do that after the fact, if you have a random folder stuffed with receipts.

The foundation was set and I built the house

. I even went ultra nerdy and insert formulas for dates and/or mileage and extrapolated out 5 years for both cars on required and preventative maintenance.

graphicguy · June 2020

oldfarmer50 said:
“ It’s great when you find a place that doesn’t try to up-sell you every chance they get.”

Picked up the Fusion today and talk about upsell. The F&I guy gave an almost tearful rendition of why we should buy a 3 year 3rd party extended warranty for $2900. There was a wheel and tire package for $875 but he recommended the “better” plan for $70 more. All the while my eyes are glazing over and my son is squirming to get out of there.

While he was pontificating on the value of his various plans I glanced to the bottom where there was a total cost if you took everything he offered......$16,000!

On an $8100 car.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

That right there would have scuttled the deal for me. Would have got up and walked out while telling him to send me a check for any monies paid.

28firefighter · June 2020

I was given an excel as well as a folder full of receipts. I just moved it into my own excel spreadsheet and shored things up with more detail.

graphicguy · June 2020

Chalk this up to “never thought I’d ever see this”.

Good friend of mine is a retired Ford manufacturing engineer. He worked in the local transmission plant for his entire career, and just retired after 40 years of dutiful service to the blue oval.

He’s as straight laced and upstanding as any person you’ll find. We used to be golfing buddies until he couldn’t swing his club more than ⅓ of the way on the back swing. Around 5 years ago he had his shoulder replaced. Helped a little, but now his other shoulder is going through the same issue.

He’s looking at buying my electric snow blower (if I stick around these parts, I’m going to go back to a gas one, smaller and easier to maneuver). He came over last night to look at it.

There was something different about him and the way he acted, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. He was certainly quieter than usual. Anyway, right next to the snow blower sit my golf clubs. He hadn’t swung one in over a year because of his shoulder. He picked a 3 wood out of the bag, removed the head cover, walked outside and gave it a swing. I had not seen him swing that well in several years.

I know he didn’t have another surgery, as I see him probably a couple of times per week. After giving him the inevitable interrogation, he fessed up that he’s now a “medicinal marijuana” user.

First, never would have thought that of him. 2nd, I asked how a person of his “leanings” ever agreed to try marijuana. And lastly, how it even happened for him to try such a different medical solution (can you call it medical)?

I quizzed him if he had a “dealer”? He said medical marijuana can be prescribed by a Dr. for a variety of ailments. For him, it was for chronic pain in his shoulder. Eventually, he said he would have to have surgery if the pain became to great. But, for the time being, the marijuana was working. He was still trying to get dosage right (apparently the Drs only write the script and “suggest” dosages, unlike other prescription drugs). So, he was a little quiet as he said he was getting used to the effects. Eventually, I guess he’ll get to a “happy” medium in dosage. He said he’s sleeping better, too.

In short, he believes it’s a miracle drug. Not so sure about that. But, he’s in pretty good shape right now.

There are even dispensaries around town (something else I did not know). He doesn’t go to Walgreens, CVS or one of those places. He told me of the one he goes to, and I’ve been past it many times, but did not know it even existed as it has on of those holistic names that I’d never associate with marijuana.

How did I miss all of this? I’ve lived in Ohio for over 25 years.

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:
CT drivers are better than I thought. Nobody hit this wrong way driver.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/wrong-way-driver-drives-for-miles-on-i-395-in-montville/ar-BB15kevj?ocid=hplocalnews
That was pretty exciting to watch. A lot of highways around here only have 25% of the normal traffic volumes because of the lock down. Could have been worse.
What could have been going on with the driver? I thought it was a suicide mission, but, he actually came to a fairly normal stop when up against the cop car. Please follow up with the cause when you find out!

Any updates on what was happening? Was the guy in a diabetic crisis or something? He seemed oblivious.

jmonroe1 · June 2020

venture said:
My daughter started looking for a 3 row SUV to haul kids. She noticed that my local Subaru dealer had 4 used Ascents listed on their web site.

I called the salesman I used for the last few purchases. He was there, but was busy. Then I called the Sales manager - he was also busy. I left a message for both.

Eventually the salesman called. I told him what she was interested in. One of them sold that afternoon. He made sure to tell me that they did not discount their used cars at all...more than once.

I think my string of buying Subaru's has ended.

If they have something that you want, I’d still go in to see and drive it. It’s a lot different when you’re there and about to walk if you don’t get a reasonable deal. Talk’s cheap.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

venture said:
My daughter started looking for a 3 row SUV to haul kids. She noticed that my local Subaru dealer had 4 used Ascents listed on their web site.

I called the salesman I used for the last few purchases. He was there, but was busy. Then I called the Sales manager - he was also busy. I left a message for both.

Eventually the salesman called. I told him what she was interested in. One of them sold that afternoon. He made sure to tell me that they did not discount their used cars at all...more than once.

I think my string of buying Subaru's has ended.

No negotiations? That kind of upends the whole used car system doesn’t it? Could they have a shortage due to the shutdown? Otherwise I don’t get it, what I’m hearing is that trade-ins have been getting hammered for the last two months. They should have been able to acquire inventory on the cheap.

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

driver100 said:
Check internet to get an idea of prices and what is available. Might be better to buy it new. Maybe a private seller......though, I'd get a pretty thorough mechanic to look it over...if spending that much!

Yes, try autotrader, cars.com, car gurus etc. that’s how I located my last one.

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:

pensfan83 said:

roadburner said:
I keep a small spiral notebook for each car to record maintenance. I like to have the ability to know when and at what mileage maintenance was performed.
I do the same except in Excel and only for the Honda and BMW. The other 2 are leases and need nothing more than oil changes, rotations, and differential fluid changes so I just rely on the maintenance reminder in both.
Same here.
You can do that after the fact, if you have a random folder stuffed with receipts.

I just call my “guy” who does all my work and have him print me a hard copy of everything. In fact, I’m having him do that today to give to the person who just bought a car from me.

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

graphicguy said:
Chalk this up to “never thought I’d ever see this”.

Good friend of mine is a retired Ford manufacturing engineer. He worked in the local transmission plant for his entire career, and just retired after 40 years of dutiful service to the blue oval.

He’s as straight laced and upstanding as any person you’ll find. We used to be golfing buddies until he couldn’t swing his club more than ⅓ of the way on the back swing. Around 5 years ago he had his shoulder replaced. Helped a little, but now his other shoulder is going through the same issue.

He’s looking at buying my electric snow blower (if I stick around these parts, I’m going to go back to a gas one, smaller and easier to maneuver). He came over last night to look at it.

There was something different about him and the way he acted, but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. He was certainly quieter than usual. Anyway, right next to the snow blower sit my golf clubs. He hadn’t swung one in over a year because of his shoulder. He picked a 3 wood out of the bag, removed the head cover, walked outside and gave it a swing. I had not seen him swing that well in several years.

I know he didn’t have another surgery, as I see him probably a couple of times per week. After giving him the inevitable interrogation, he fessed up that he’s now a “medicinal marijuana” user.

First, never would have thought that of him. 2nd, I asked how a person of his “leanings” ever agreed to try marijuana. And lastly, how it even happened for him to try such a different medical solution (can you call it medical)?

I quizzed him if he had a “dealer”? He said medical marijuana can be prescribed by a Dr. for a variety of ailments. For him, it was for chronic pain in his shoulder. Eventually, he said he would have to have surgery if the pain became to great. But, for the time being, the marijuana was working. He was still trying to get dosage right (apparently the Drs only write the script and “suggest” dosages, unlike other prescription drugs). So, he was a little quiet as he said he was getting used to the effects. Eventually, I guess he’ll get to a “happy” medium in dosage. He said he’s sleeping better, too.

In short, he believes it’s a miracle drug. Not so sure about that. But, he’s in pretty good shape right now.

There are even dispensaries around town (something else I did not know). He doesn’t go to Walgreens, CVS or one of those places. He told me of the one he goes to, and I’ve been past it many times, but did not know it even existed as it has on of those holistic names that I’d never associate with marijuana.

How did I miss all of this? I’ve lived in Ohio for over 25 years.

Evidently it does have some pain relief properties but I doubt the bulk of users really are in pain, at least physically. Does he smoke it or use edibles? If I got to that point I can’t see myself taking up smoking at this late date. A pot brownie on the other hand....

28firefighter · June 2020

Marijuana, as most know, is legal in WA. Most folks in my circle that use (either medicinal or recreational) use edibles - usually soft candy or a small piece of a cookie. There are locations all over Western WA - some nicer than others, but the nicest ones don't look all that different from a starbucks inside and the folks that work there can help provide guidance on what to buy and how much to take depending on your use case.

Several patients who go to the same GI clinic I do use for helping with pain related to Crohn's Disease inflammation and have it help with appetite. It has far less in terms of side effects than some of the more heavy narcotic pills with less of the addictive properties.

To each their own.

tjc78 · June 2020

In searching for jobs I noticed a lot of postings for Marijuana dispensaries. It's becoming big business.

driver100 · June 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:
CT drivers are better than I thought. Nobody hit this wrong way driver.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/wrong-way-driver-drives-for-miles-on-i-395-in-montville/ar-BB15kevj?ocid=hplocalnews
That was pretty exciting to watch. A lot of highways around here only have 25% of the normal traffic volumes because of the lock down. Could have been worse.
What could have been going on with the driver? I thought it was a suicide mission, but, he actually came to a fairly normal stop when up against the cop car. Please follow up with the cause when you find out!
Any updates on what was happening? Was the guy in a diabetic crisis or something? He seemed oblivious.

Medical marijuana?

ab348 · June 2020

I had a convo with my doctor about medicinal weed a couple of years ago in relation to my knee. She won't prescribe it, at least at that time she didn't, and had nothing good to say about the patients who came to her looking for a scrip. In her mind most of them were already using weed for the high and just wanted an easier way to buy it. Her argument was that until it goes through legit clinical trials and is shown to be effective for certain problems she would not prescribe it. She felt a lot of the claims people were hearing about were snake oil and didn't want to be recommending it until there was more credible evidence.

Since it has become legal here there are various products that use it available through pharmacies by prescription. Some but not all of them are CBD-based which is what is supposed to be the anti-inflammatory compound. But I was looking at the list available through my pharmacy and about half of them are mostly THC, which is what gets you high. In those cases I suppose it is like booze, let it affect your state of mind enough and you don't care about the pain, but good luck functioning normally.

I can tell you that the legal industry here has not proven to be the gold mine that the sharpies who bought into it thought it would be. It was unlikely that the stock values that were wildly optimistic at the start could ever be supported by earnings since there were so many companies trying for a piece of the pie. It turned out that their product in many cases was overpriced and not as good as people could buy in the street, and a bunch of them have fallen flat on their faces. My former employer is also the retailer here for it (a misguided choice by our government IMO) and my former colleagues there tell me those involved in it are an even more craptastic bunch than those in the booze business, which is saying something. Probably not surprising considering that up to a couple of years ago it was all outside the law.

driver100 · June 2020

My very conservative SIL surprised us with her story about how she was making marijuana based cookies and used 4X the amount by accident. Evidently her husband saw the cookies, ate two of them, passed out on the floor and didn't wake up until lunch time the next day. He said it was the best sleep he has ever had.

They put the rest of the cookies in the freezer and slowly people offered to take some...and only eat a small portion at a time.

graphicguy · June 2020

My friend uses drops. @oldfarmer50 ...I agree with you. If I had to smoke it, probably not happening.

But, you give me an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie with some mixed in? Regardless of the marijuana ingredients, I'm devouring that cookie.

I'm fascinated by this. For my entire life, I was told it was a gateway drug, told to stay away from it (which as a dutiful parochial school student, I obeyed) as all sorts of bad things would happen to me.

Now, it's legal. Moreover, I didn't even know it. And, from a scientific study of one person, is effective. He didn't seem "high" to me, as I noted when confronted with young "stoners". He was just a little more calm an quiet than usual.

I can only imagine what it's like in states where it's legal for recreational use.

28firefighter · June 2020

graphicguy said:
My friend uses drops. @oldfarmer50 ...I agree with you. If I had to smoke it, probably not happening.

But, you give me an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie with some mixed in? Regardless of the marijuana ingredients, I'm devouring that cookie.

I'm fascinated by this. For my entire life, I was told it was a gateway drug, told to stay away from it (which as a dutiful parochial school student, I obeyed) as all sorts of bad things would happen to me.

Now, it's legal. Moreover, I didn't even know it. And, from a scientific study of one person, is effective. He didn't seem "high" to me, as I noted when confronted with young "stoners". He was just a little more calm an quiet than usual.

I can only imagine what it's like in states where it's legal for recreational use.

The same as it is where alcohol is legal. Just more mellow and giggly.

ab348 · June 2020

graphicguy said:

I can only imagine what it's like in states where it's legal for recreational use.

For reasons that remain a mystery to me, I am hyper-sensitive to the smell of weed smoke. My nose can pick up the tiniest whiff of it. And if I encounter a more dense cloud of it, the stink fouls up my sense of smell for a while as it is all I can sense for a few minutes.

So given that, I am probably not the best person to answer your question. However I can tell you that I can spot a weed smoker when I encounter them in store aisles just by their smell. To me it is not pleasant so I go out of my way to get away from them. I do not remember that being a problem prior to legalization here. But that is minor compared to what I sense on our roads. The number of people who smoke it while driving since it has become legal 18 months ago is shocking. I smell it a lot, not every time I am driving but often enough, and even more when I am doing yardwork in front of my house and cars stop at my corner. I wonder how it affects their driving. I know there are conflicting studies on it but I have to think it slows reaction times.

omarman · June 2020

Cannabis impairs driving skills in every way. Reaction times, attention, ability to judge distance and speed. Not to argue the medical value of cannabis, but is it reasonable to apply restrictions for users who also drive?

For example, depending on the laws for each state, driving is restricted for those who have had seizures. How many people would surrender driving privileges when they receive a medical marijuana script?

Maybe a restriction on driving might weed out recreational users.

andres3 · June 2020

driver100 said:
We were mailed a notice regarding the notice about a part they would put in the GLK if you chose to do so. At the time, we thought it sounded like a hassle for something that they said was unlikely to be a problem...very minor. We would have ignored the notice normally, decided not to do it...but, when they offered to do it when I called for the oil change we thought....why not have it done.....it isn't a problem if they keep the car for an extra few hours....we can't do much these days anyway.

I handled the last recall on the TTS that way. It seemed like a far-fetched minor problem so I'd have ignored it, had it not been for my "free maintenance" plan at the dealership. As soon as that plan is over at the 45,000 oil change, I'll be heading to the indy as they do save me money on oil changes. The dealership could match it, but only with a "coupon" or negotiated "deal."

qbrozen · June 2020

weed and alcohol are very very different in many ways, not the least of which is focus. One can still be fully functioning on marijuana; the same cannot be said of alcohol. Of course, like everything else, it should be taken in moderation. But, with pot, too much of it just puts you to sleep.

There have been studies, so that one doc just isn't looking hard enough. It is, however, IMHO, for a select population and not a cure-all for which some seem to try to use it or prescribe it.

A few years ago, I was working on the launch of a spray, like breath freshener. It didn't get approved because the testing was flawed. They chose to allow only end-stage cancer patients who were already on multiple opioids. The plan was to get this first approved as an add-on pain therapy to try to reduce opioid use in this population. Somehow, it did not occur to them that this population is so far down the path that the small boost from a plant-based medicinal spray would be akin to following up 2 oxycontin with 2 advil. I knew it would fail from the beginning when we were pitching it and I read the study data. And it is a shame because it could have been a benefit for those needing mild pain relief where NSAIDs aren't enough and prevent them from having to resort to opioids. Of course, in medical terms, this was AGES ago and things have and continue to rapidly change.

graphicguy · June 2020

@ab348 ..I can smell weed sometimes in an area, or even on a person....not often, but I can. Weird, as I go there rarely, but every time I go to Harbor Freight, I get a whiff of marijauna. Either someone who works there, or perhaps the customers who shop there regularly, but it's right outside their entrance when I smell it.

Not sure what the laws are here in OH, but I would imagine it's similar to those who drink and drive. I do see folks blow out billows of smoke from cars driving along. Up until now, I thought they were smoking e-cigs. Maybe I'm being naive on that point, though.

I guess you follow the money. If there's enough money to be made, anything can be legalized.

My friend did say it was somewhat of a racket. He had to pay the state $50 to be an official (and legal) marijuana user. And, his surgeon wouldn't write a script for it. So, he had to go to another physician to get the script. Physician only takes cash, as does the dispensary.

For the physician, no paperwork to file, no insurance companies to deal with, just write a script. He said the MD spent about 20 minutes with him going over his physical health, his shoulder pain, with no x-rays taken, just a couple of questions. This guy is in a nondescript office. Sounds a little shady to me. His office visit was $199...cash.

So, between the state and the Dr, he was into it for $249 even before he bought his weed. I'll have to ask him how much that costs. Can't be cheap, I would imagine.

Again, fascinating marketplace that I was insulated from, and know little about.

fintail · June 2020

My brother has a (small) ownership stake in a "grow op" as I like to call it ("the farm" as he calls it). Business has been brisk, although he puts in a lot of hours, he has stuck with it, I think he sees an eventual windfall.

He indulges in it too, and is smart enough not to drive etc while enjoying it. I have no issue with it, and am baffled that some still whine about it with harder drugs exploding virtually unchecked, especially in some parts of the country. I can't stand the stuff when smoked anyway, as I don't like the smell nor smoke - but it is no worse than cigarette smoke that also seems to addle the minds of some, yet has always been legal because of the golden rule. One has to question why some things are legal and why some are not, examine at the credibility of those making and supporting the legislation, and follow the money.

The bar is so low for local drivers that I suspect pot use might lead to some issues, but might not make things significantly worse.

28firefighter said:
Marijuana, as most know, is legal in WA. Most folks in my circle that use (either medicinal or recreational) use edibles - usually soft candy or a small piece of a cookie. There are locations all over Western WA - some nicer than others, but the nicest ones don't look all that different from a starbucks inside and the folks that work there can help provide guidance on what to buy and how much to take depending on your use case.

Several patients who go to the same GI clinic I do use for helping with pain related to Crohn's Disease inflammation and have it help with appetite. It has far less in terms of side effects than some of the more heavy narcotic pills with less of the addictive properties.

To each their own.

28firefighter · June 2020

You should not be driving after taking alcohol, marijuana, or any prescription (or non-prescription) opioid pain killer.

graphicguy · June 2020

Overall agree.....

https://youtu.be/dKKCmgic8Fg

fintail · June 2020

Oh definitely. I worded that poorly - one shouldn't drive while under the influence, but even if some are (and no doubt some are), it hasn't created noticeable pandemonium, although any casualty is terrible. At least at one time, authorities were having a hard time trying to set standards for being under the influence, not sure if they finally got it together or not. That was a big issue.

28firefighter said:
You should not be driving after taking alcohol, marijuana, or any prescription (or non-prescription) opioid pain killer.

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

graphicguy said:
My friend uses drops. @oldfarmer50 ...I agree with you. If I had to smoke it, probably not happening.

But, you give me an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie with some mixed in? Regardless of the marijuana ingredients, I'm devouring that cookie.

I'm fascinated by this. For my entire life, I was told it was a gateway drug, told to stay away from it (which as a dutiful parochial school student, I obeyed) as all sorts of bad things would happen to me.

Now, it's legal. Moreover, I didn't even know it. And, from a scientific study of one person, is effective. He didn't seem "high" to me, as I noted when confronted with young "stoners". He was just a little more calm an quiet than usual.

I can only imagine what it's like in states where it's legal for recreational use.

Used some in college but it never seemed superior to booze except there was no hangover. In retrospect the side effects of booze was what prevented me from becoming a habitual user. Gateway drug? Don’t know.

imidazol97 · June 2020

We have reached a new low (or high? LOL) here now that we're discussing marijuana! I'm here laughing at the progression from garage openers to washing machines to juicers, and finally here to a sensible discussion.

I am concerned about GG's friend who has trouble moving in a range of motion without the marijuana.
It's got to be that using something to ease the discomfort is hurting something. The pain is a warning from the body.
IF the discomfort or pain is a symptom that something doesn't like moving in that manner, using marijuana and moving the arm through that discomfort zone surely is doing some kind of damage.

I liken it to the young "kid" who sold my wife's Samsung tablet at Best Buy. She mentioned she's on pain pills and just wanted to sit where she was. He said he had two bad knees that needed replacement (at age 25 I'd guess). In college he ran track and they kept injecting his knees before the meets. The end result was terminal damage to his knees. I hoped Best Buy had a good healthcare plan for him. He was a good guy.

suydam · June 2020

28firefighter said:
Marijuana, as most know, is legal in WA. Most folks in my circle that use (either medicinal or recreational) use edibles - usually soft candy or a small piece of a cookie. There are locations all over Western WA - some nicer than others, but the nicest ones don't look all that different from a starbucks inside and the folks that work there can help provide guidance on what to buy and how much to take depending on your use case.

Several patients who go to the same GI clinic I do use for helping with pain related to Crohn's Disease inflammation and have it help with appetite. It has far less in terms of side effects than some of the more heavy narcotic pills with less of the addictive properties.

To each their own.

Its beneficial medical effects are quite well Documented. It relieves nausea for chemotherapy patients and is also a very good pain reliever for certain issues and for sure beats opioid use. A good friend of ours had a double mastectomy and the pain relief it has provided for her is amazing. She wears it as a transdermal patch. Medical marijuana doesn’t get you high, by the way.

nyccarguy · June 2020

@graphicguy - I watched that video and thought of you

venture · June 2020

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:
My daughter started looking for a 3 row SUV to haul kids. She noticed that my local Subaru dealer had 4 used Ascents listed on their web site.

I called the salesman I used for the last few purchases. He was there, but was busy. Then I called the Sales manager - he was also busy. I left a message for both.

Eventually the salesman called. I told him what she was interested in. One of them sold that afternoon. He made sure to tell me that they did not discount their used cars at all...more than once.

I think my string of buying Subaru's has ended.
If they have something that you want, I’d still go in to see and drive it. It’s a lot different when you’re there and about to walk if you don’t get a reasonable deal. Talk’s cheap.

jmonroe

Against my better judgement we are going in this afternoon.

venture · June 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

venture said:
My daughter started looking for a 3 row SUV to haul kids. She noticed that my local Subaru dealer had 4 used Ascents listed on their web site.

I called the salesman I used for the last few purchases. He was there, but was busy. Then I called the Sales manager - he was also busy. I left a message for both.

Eventually the salesman called. I told him what she was interested in. One of them sold that afternoon. He made sure to tell me that they did not discount their used cars at all...more than once.

I think my string of buying Subaru's has ended.
No negotiations? That kind of upends the whole used car system doesn’t it? Could they have a shortage due to the shutdown? Otherwise I don’t get it, what I’m hearing is that trade-ins have been getting hammered for the last two months. They should have been able to acquire inventory on the cheap.

I don't know what they are doing. The sales manager called this morning and said they haven't budged on used car prices in years. I don't buy used cars so I didn't know that. Their prices are reasonable compared to others in the area. No wonder they try to steal my trade when I bought a car there.

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

Ha ha, since buying that Ford yesterday I’ve been deluged with robocalls calls for extended warranties. It’s not even in my name, yet I’m even getting calls on my cell phone which I only use for work.

Could this be the dealer’s revenge for not buying his product?

imidazol97 · June 2020

Did you use your work phone as a number for them to contact you? I don't give my cell number out to anyone if I can avoid it.

jipster · June 2020

driver100 said:
My very conservative SIL surprised us with her story about how she was making marijuana based cookies and used 4X the amount by accident. Evidently her husband saw the cookies, ate two of them, passed out on the floor and didn't wake up until lunch time the next day. He said it was the best sleep he has ever had.

They put the rest of the cookies in the freezer and slowly people offered to take some...and only eat a small portion at a time.

The husband only ate 2 cookies not knowing they were loaded? I would have been asleep a week if I found that plate of freshly baked cookies.

That is a real danger with edibles though. They come in all kinds of candy forms....gummies, chocolate, brownies etc., so keep out of sight, or locked up if you have children. Additionally, it takes 30 minutes to an hour to feel the effects of edibles. So, some may overdose thinking they just haven't consumed enough product.

driver100 · June 2020

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

venture said:
My daughter started looking for a 3 row SUV to haul kids. She noticed that my local Subaru dealer had 4 used Ascents listed on their web site.

I called the salesman I used for the last few purchases. He was there, but was busy. Then I called the Sales manager - he was also busy. I left a message for both.

Eventually the salesman called. I told him what she was interested in. One of them sold that afternoon. He made sure to tell me that they did not discount their used cars at all...more than once.

I think my string of buying Subaru's has ended.
No negotiations? That kind of upends the whole used car system doesn’t it? Could they have a shortage due to the shutdown? Otherwise I don’t get it, what I’m hearing is that trade-ins have been getting hammered for the last two months. They should have been able to acquire inventory on the cheap.
I don't know what they are doing. The sales manager called this morning and said they haven't budged on used car prices in years. I don't buy used cars so I didn't know that. Their prices are reasonable compared to others in the area. No wonder they try to steal my trade when I bought a car there.

Some places believe their used car prices are marked fairly and they don't negotiate. The AutoNation dealer where we bought the C250 told us that. They did give us $200 more on the trade-in to close the deal, but, our salesman said he has never seen them do that before. Just because they set a price doesn't mean that it isn't a fair price....I would check it and compare.

driver100 · June 2020

oldfarmer50 said:
Ha ha, since buying that Ford yesterday I’ve been deluged with robocalls calls for extended warranties. It’s not even in my name, yet I’m even getting calls on my cell phone which I only use for work.

Could this be the dealer’s revenge for not buying his product?

They get your info from the DOT office or somewhere....they are ruthless. Must have a huge computer that tells them when someone buys a used car.

abacomike · June 2020

I really have never considered taking that stuff orally to reduce my chronic back pain. I can't smoke anything due to my chronic COPD and I can't take opiates (oral or IV) because I get severely constipated as well as hyperactive (can't sleep). I only take opiates if the pain gets so bad I have no choice, which is very rare.

My primary care Doc probably would not give me a scrip for marijuana because I think it's against his religion or something. But he can refer me to a colleague who could. I see him next week and I will discuss it with him.🤪😜😛🤓

omarman · June 2020

Medical marijuana doesn’t get you high, by the way.

I don't doubt that there are medical benefits of cannabis. Still have doubts that those medical benefits do not come with impairments to driving. So far as I know there are no restraints from purchasing/using weed with high THC content for those who qualify for medical cannabis use.

Although that may not even matter.

There's been a study of real-world users of legal market cannabis products published in JAMA Psychiatry on June 10. Flower users purchased a product containing either 16% or 24% THC the main psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. Concentrate users were assigned to a product containing either 70% or 90% THC.

Regardless of what type or potency of cannabis participants used, their self-reports of intoxication, or "feeling high," were remarkably similar, as were their measures of balance and cognitive impairment.

"Surprisingly, we found that potency did not track with intoxication levels. While we saw striking differences in blood levels between the two groups, they were similarly impaired."
L. Cinnamon Bidwell, lead author, assistant professor in the Institute of Cognitive Science

Another surprising finding was this:

"People in the high concentration group were much less compromised than we thought they were going to be," said coauthor Kent Hutchison, a professor of psychology and neuroscience at CU Boulder who also studies alcohol addiction. "If we gave people that high a concentration of alcohol it would have been a different story."

The authors caution that the study examined regular users who have learned to meter their use based on the desired effect, and does not apply to inexperienced users. Those users should still be extremely cautious with concentrates, said Hutchison.

suydam said:

28firefighter said:
Marijuana, as most know, is legal in WA. Most folks in my circle that use (either medicinal or recreational) use edibles - usually soft candy or a small piece of a cookie. There are locations all over Western WA - some nicer than others, but the nicest ones don't look all that different from a starbucks inside and the folks that work there can help provide guidance on what to buy and how much to take depending on your use case.

Several patients who go to the same GI clinic I do use for helping with pain related to Crohn's Disease inflammation and have it help with appetite. It has far less in terms of side effects than some of the more heavy narcotic pills with less of the addictive properties.

To each their own.

Its beneficial medical effects are quite well Documented. It relieves nausea for chemotherapy patients and is also a very good pain reliever for certain issues and for sure beats opioid use. A good friend of ours had a double mastectomy and the pain relief it has provided for her is amazing. She wears it as a transdermal patch. Medical marijuana doesn’t get you high, by the way.

ab348 · June 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

Used some in college but it never seemed superior to booze except there was no hangover. In retrospect the side effects of booze was what prevented me from becoming a habitual user. Gateway drug? Don’t know.

I understand (ahem) that while there isn't a boozy hangover, the next day you are seriously logy and unmotivated until it exits your system.

I think the gateway drug business was less about the weed itself as it was the type of person who would seek out a skeevy dealer to get it back in the day, thus being open to the use of illicit substances in general, and who then was afforded an opportunity to purchase an assortment of other "good stuff" from said person.

benjaminh · June 2020

graphicguy said:
Overall agree.....

https://youtu.be/dKKCmgic8Fg

Seems like a great car!++ It might even be too good, because that video references rumors that the Stinger might possibly get killed off after this generation....

https://www.motortrend.com/news/kia-stinger-cancelled-rumor/

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

imidazol97 said:
Did you use your work phone as a number for them to contact you? I don't give my cell number out to anyone if I can avoid it.

Yeah, I did. Well, son of a gun. :@

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

abacomike said:
I really have never considered taking that stuff orally to reduce my chronic back pain. I can't smoke anything due to my chronic COPD and I can't take opiates (oral or IV) because I get severely constipated as well as hyperactive (can't sleep). I only take opiates if the pain gets so bad I have no choice, which is very rare.

My primary care Doc probably would not give me a scrip for marijuana because I think it's against his religion or something. But he can refer me to a colleague who could. I see him next week and I will discuss it with him.🤪😜😛🤓

I hope you guys are happy, you turned Mike into a drug addict. Before long he’ll be hocking the wheels off his car to get a fix.

abacomike · June 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:
I really have never considered taking that stuff orally to reduce my chronic back pain. I can't smoke anything due to my chronic COPD and I can't take opiates (oral or IV) because I get severely constipated as well as hyperactive (can't sleep). I only take opiates if the pain gets so bad I have no choice, which is very rare.

My primary care Doc probably would not give me a scrip for marijuana because I think it's against his religion or something. But he can refer me to a colleague who could. I see him next week and I will discuss it with him.🤪😜😛🤓
I hope you guys are happy, you turned Mike into a drug addict. Before long he’ll be hocking the wheels off his car to get a fix.

The main reason why I could never become a drug addict is the effect opiates have on my body. Yes, they temporarily mask the pain for a few hours but, as I mentioned in my previous post, I become hyper - I can't sleep and I develop a certain syndrome that is rare in humans. That syndrome causes the opposite effect on me - instead of getting woozie and sleepy, I get agitated and perky. That coupled with severe constipation Is why I avoid opiates at almost any cost with the exception of intolerable pain.

When I was in the hospital for my liver resection due to malignant tumors 4 years ago, they put me on morphine drip and later Demerol IV. I was hallucinating for days and was nervous and jumpy. Then, once my pain decreased to tolerable levels, trying to come off those drugs was very difficult.

That's why I hate taking narcotics due to the problems they cause me. I am not a good candidate for becoming a drug addict, that's for sure. I hate those drugs and what they do to me.

explorerx4 · June 2020

Been trying to decide if I should go COBRA or get on my wife's healthcare plan, since my last working day is Monday.
Decided to see how much my infusion appointments cost.
Came across how much my pill prescription costs.
Each pill is $110 and I take 4 every morning.

abacomike · June 2020

explorerx4 said:
Been trying to decide if I should go COBRA or get on my wife's healthcare plan, since my last working day is Monday.
Decided to see how much my infusion appointments cost.
Came across how much my pill prescription costs.
Each pill is $110 and I take 4 every morning.

Ouch! When I was taking Harvoni and then Epclusa, anti-viral drugs to cure Hepatitis C a few years ago, the cost was over $120,000 for 9 total months - one pill a day. Luckily my copay was covered by PAN (Patient Access Network). It is a foundation that picks up all costs above what insurance pays once you qualify vis a vis income level. It's a 501(c)(3) non-profit foundation. I am forever grateful to PAN for their assistance.

roadburner · June 2020

The drug trafficker I’m prosecuting that was one of the “stars” of the “Narcoland” show has a medical marijuana “prescription” from Georgia. The judge told him that was fine but that it’s still illegal in KY. So he tried to bribe the pretrial release drug test techs. Which means he is now charged with two more felonies.
He is also a gangsta rapper(he thinks). He’s left his videos up on YouTube so I downloaded all of them in case he takes them down.

oldfarmer50 · June 2020

explorerx4 said:
Been trying to decide if I should go COBRA or get on my wife's healthcare plan, since my last working day is Monday.
Decided to see how much my infusion appointments cost.
Came across how much my pill prescription costs.
Each pill is $110 and I take 4 every morning.

Tough decision. I guess you have to compare the coverages. Do you have the formulary from each plan to see what your drug costs would be under each plan? Then there’s plan costs themselves. Under COBRA you have to pay the entire premium. At my pre-retirement employment that would have been $7000 a year. Do you get to hook up with your wife’s for free?

Finally, how close are you to Medicare? How hard will it be to transition to a Medicare supplement.

kyfdx · June 2020

explorerx4 said:
Been trying to decide if I should go COBRA or get on my wife's healthcare plan, since my last working day is Monday.
Decided to see how much my infusion appointments cost.
Came across how much my pill prescription costs.
Each pill is $110 and I take 4 every morning.

A lot depends on how long before you are eligible for Medicare. (and, the premium cost, of course)

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