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venture · July 2020

ab348 said:
I had a telephone appt with my family doc last week and was complaining about my knee that needs replacing really causing me problems. She offered a cortisone shot. The last one of those I had in it was close to 20 years ago. At the time I was told that you couldn't have many of them, and it had to be done by my orthopedist at the time, who used a very long needle. It hurt despite a shot of Novocaine a few minutes in advance.

She said she could do them at her office and phoned in a prescription for me to pick up on my way there today. She also told me that the old prohibition against too many of them is pretty much a non-issue now so I can have more if it helps. She did it and I barely felt anything this time. Quite the difference. Just hope it works.

Hopefully it works. Knee pain is awful.

suydam · July 2020

ab348 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:
How about the "Washington Redliners"?
If you’re talking about the controversy over football team names, I suggest just changing the mascot. Problem solved.

I predict a boycott of racist potatoes in the near future.

We always call them new or red potatoes anyway.

kyfdx · July 2020

imidazol97 said:
I think the Bangals need a new mascot and name. Will it help their playing?

Have you read their new plan for spreading out the fans with season tickets along with blocking
the first 8 rows off? Will they be able to fill the stadium that way other than a couple of games
with desirable opponents people come to view?

I couldn't even give away the season seats I won back in 1980 or so. They were given a new stadium
and things are still the same. They should have let them move to Baltimore (I think that was where
Brown claimed he was being invited to move.)

I had tickets from 1990-2010. It was rough. Especially the '90s.

Of course, after I quit going, they went on a run of five straight years in the playoffs.

kyfdx · July 2020

ab348 said:
I had a telephone appt with my family doc last week and was complaining about my knee that needs replacing really causing me problems. She offered a cortisone shot. The last one of those I had in it was close to 20 years ago. At the time I was told that you couldn't have many of them, and it had to be done by my orthopedist at the time, who used a very long needle. It hurt despite a shot of Novocaine a few minutes in advance.

She said she could do them at her office and phoned in a prescription for me to pick up on my way there today. She also told me that the old prohibition against too many of them is pretty much a non-issue now so I can have more if it helps. She did it and I barely felt anything this time. Quite the difference. Just hope it works.

I've been getting one about every three months. Starts wearing off after 9-10 weeks. But, it isn't really a good long-term strategy for me. The knee is pretty unstable, even when they get the swelling/pain to go away. Going in for an MRI, tomorrow. But, arthroscopic surgery is the best guess.. meniscus tear.

I agree, though. The injection is nearly painless, these days.

Michaell · July 2020

kyfdx said:

ab348 said:
I had a telephone appt with my family doc last week and was complaining about my knee that needs replacing really causing me problems. She offered a cortisone shot. The last one of those I had in it was close to 20 years ago. At the time I was told that you couldn't have many of them, and it had to be done by my orthopedist at the time, who used a very long needle. It hurt despite a shot of Novocaine a few minutes in advance.

She said she could do them at her office and phoned in a prescription for me to pick up on my way there today. She also told me that the old prohibition against too many of them is pretty much a non-issue now so I can have more if it helps. She did it and I barely felt anything this time. Quite the difference. Just hope it works.
I've been getting one about every three months. Starts wearing off after 9-10 weeks. But, it isn't really a good long-term strategy for me. The knee is pretty unstable, even when they get the swelling/pain to go away. Going in for an MRI, tomorrow. But, arthroscopic surgery is the best guess.. meniscus tear.

I agree, though. The injection is nearly painless, these days.

My wife had the knee surgery.

Cost us in excess of $300,000 - we moved from a 2-story to a ranch level house to accommodate her mobility.

Fortunately, the surgery seems to have worked - she's only had moderate discomfort since then, and she's spending 8-10 hours a day on her feet at the studio this summer.

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:
Some will like me, some will loath me...but, I found another car YouTube channel to binge. Interesting take.....

https://youtu.be/MA6tQT2sp7g
I'd rather watch Alyssa detail for 20 mins than listen to him.

Ha ha, as I was watching that video I was thinking that she better be his wife or girlfriend or I see trouble in his future.

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

isellhondas said:

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:
Some will like me, some will loath me...but, I found another car YouTube channel to binge. Interesting take.....

https://youtu.be/MA6tQT2sp7g
I’ve seen that guy in the past. He seems to have a knack for getting burned at the auction. I think in one of his videos he bought a use Nissan Maxima with a CVT and on the way home the tranny fell apart on him and left him stranded.
I've watched him. He seems like an upfront guy who tries to do the right thing.

I’m not impugning his integrity but from the videos I’ve seen I question his judgement in his selection of cars. He’s had to eat the repair costs on a poor choice a couple of times.

His business model would be illegal in NY but he seems to be honest and doesn’t run a buy here pay here operation. I wonder what happens when one of those $400 specials blows up on the buyer a mile down the road.

driver100 · July 2020

venture said:

kyfdx said:
When you have a really bad team, you need a nickname, so you don't have to denigrate your whole city.

If you were a Bengals fan, you would know this.
I know you are being facetious, but, really, why not just Washington? Why be like everyone else? Everyone will know what team it is.

What would their logo be?

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

ab348 said:
I had a telephone appt with my family doc last week and was complaining about my knee that needs replacing really causing me problems. She offered a cortisone shot. The last one of those I had in it was close to 20 years ago. At the time I was told that you couldn't have many of them, and it had to be done by my orthopedist at the time, who used a very long needle. It hurt despite a shot of Novocaine a few minutes in advance.

She said she could do them at her office and phoned in a prescription for me to pick up on my way there today. She also told me that the old prohibition against too many of them is pretty much a non-issue now so I can have more if it helps. She did it and I barely felt anything this time. Quite the difference. Just hope it works.

I got a Cortizone shot in my knee once. Didn’t get any Novocain and it didn’t hurt. Didn’t help the knee pain either.

Learned something new today. My wife likes doing word puzzles and the clue was “what are residents of Nova Scotia called”? The answer was “Bluenoses”.

I hope that’s not an insult.

pensfan83 · July 2020

kyfdx said:

imidazol97 said:
I think the Bangals need a new mascot and name. Will it help their playing?

Have you read their new plan for spreading out the fans with season tickets along with blocking
the first 8 rows off? Will they be able to fill the stadium that way other than a couple of games
with desirable opponents people come to view?

I couldn't even give away the season seats I won back in 1980 or so. They were given a new stadium
and things are still the same. They should have let them move to Baltimore (I think that was where
Brown claimed he was being invited to move.)

I had tickets from 1990-2010. It was rough. Especially the '90s.

Of course, after I quit going, they went on a run of five straight years in the playoffs.

My BiL had season tickets up until about 2015 or 2016. I've gone to a handful of games with him, including a few Steelers games. I was bold enough to wear Steelers attire but was left (mostly) alone.

driver100 · July 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:
I had a telephone appt with my family doc last week and was complaining about my knee that needs replacing really causing me problems. She offered a cortisone shot. The last one of those I had in it was close to 20 years ago. At the time I was told that you couldn't have many of them, and it had to be done by my orthopedist at the time, who used a very long needle. It hurt despite a shot of Novocaine a few minutes in advance.

She said she could do them at her office and phoned in a prescription for me to pick up on my way there today. She also told me that the old prohibition against too many of them is pretty much a non-issue now so I can have more if it helps. She did it and I barely felt anything this time. Quite the difference. Just hope it works.
I got a Cortizone shot in my knee once. Didn’t get any Novocain and it didn’t hurt. Didn’t help the knee pain either.

Learned something new today. My wife likes doing word puzzles and the clue was “what are residents of Nova Scotia called”? The answer was “Bluenoses”.

I hope that’s not an insult.

Not an insult but I don't hear it used very much today....guess everyone wants to be careful. Could refer to Bluenose Schooners......blue gloves fisherman wore and the dye came off when they touched their face or blue skinned potatoes that were grown there. Sounds like it could be PI, but isn't.

ab348 · July 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

Learned something new today. My wife likes doing word puzzles and the clue was “what are residents of Nova Scotia called”? The answer was “Bluenoses”.

I hope that’s not an insult.

Not at all. The name is from that of the famous racing schooner "Bluenose" of the 1920s and '30s. An image of it appears on the Canadian dime coin. The original was lost in the 1940s, then a local brewery (which brewed a then-popular beer named "Schooner") built a replica for promotional purposes in the mid-1960s. They donated it to the provincial govt in the early 1970s who used it to promote tourism and other purposes, like sailing around visiting VIPs. I remember walking past its berth on the downtown Halifax waterfront on a sunny summer Friday afternoon in the early '80s and seeing the then-Minister of Economic Development (the dept in charge of it at the time) sitting shirtless in a chair on the deck, drinking.

For a couple of years I worked for the provincial Tourism dept and that file crossed my desk. When the brewery had it built they were not concerned with long-term durability, and when it passed into the hands of the province nobody knew how to maintain it, so it began having problems. After a few very expensive refits to cure massive rot it was decommissioned several years ago and a new replica was built, at huge expense and with numerous debacles during the build, since those within govt who were in charge knew nothing about building ships, especially wooden ships. It finally was completed a few years ago and has completely fallen off the radar since. I forget the final cost but I am pretty sure it was well in excess of $20 million.

driver100 · July 2020

I didn't put that together....ab lives there...he is a Bluenoser....I don't know, doesn't feel right saying that.

houdini1 · July 2020

fintail said:
That Coronet convertible made me think of this Plymouth equivalent:

I know that guy. He has a strange name, Red Green.

ab348 · July 2020

Here is the origin of the term, from a government historian*:

https://novascotia.ca/archives/bluenose/results.asp?Search=&SearchList1=1&Language=English

* When I worked at NS Tourism in the early ‘00s I got to know Doc Cuthbertson, who wrote that piece. Just a delightful fellow, full of great stories.

pensfan83 · July 2020

driver100 said:
I didn't put that together....ab lives there...he is a Bluenoser....I don't know, doesn't feel right saying that.

Better than a brown noser

houdini1 · July 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

fintail said:
That Coronet convertible made me think of this Plymouth equivalent:

My favorite Coronet was the 69’ with the triple tail lights.

Those tail lights just don't look right.

houdini1 · July 2020

driver100 said:
The Welland Canal is about 30 miles from me.....takes ships from Lake Erie into Lake Ontario.
This is what happened this weekend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5Fp0sbezo
How could two ships collide like that? Don't they have sonar things like most cars do these days?
What were the pilots - captains doing?
Where are they going to apply for new jobs?
Do you think it will just buff out?

One of those ships wouldn't have been named the Mary Celeste by any chance?

andres3 · July 2020

fintail said:
"Senators" these days might be more of an insult than anything to be proud of

Maybe the Lobbyists? The Financial Criminals?

That Hemi Jeep should have interesting casualty rates.

abacomike said:
"Washington Senators" was the name of the DC baseball club prior to the Nationals. It's "easy peasy" to use that name again since it is related to DC from the past.

The problem would be a new logo. The Capitol Steeple is already used by the hockey team.

Washington Parasites is appropriate.

Has more of a ring to it than Washington Viruses.

houdini1 · July 2020

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:

venture said:
I wish they had blown the horn when they passed since I gave them a "thumbs up". Everything else looked General Lee.
“Ding-dong”....’80s are calling!!!!! LOL! Unfortunately, some took that TV show literally, and still do. Someone should tell them it wasn’t factual!
Most of the yeahoos aren’t driving Mopars any more.
Isn't "yeahoos" denigrating a group of people?
Almost every word will offend somebody somewhere.
When I used the word "redneck" it was because many times when someone is showing, or attempting to sell, a General Lee replica s/he is dressed in clothing that you would see in the Dukes of Hazard. That's what they were wearing. I forgot about our resident scolder.

The term "red neck" doesn't bother me because I believe I am one from playing golf 3-4 times a week. How does the Washington Red Necks sound for a new name.

venture · July 2020

driver100 said:

venture said:

kyfdx said:
When you have a really bad team, you need a nickname, so you don't have to denigrate your whole city.

If you were a Bengals fan, you would know this.
I know you are being facetious, but, really, why not just Washington? Why be like everyone else? Everyone will know what team it is.
What would their logo be?

I've gone as far as I can with this. Someone else will have to do the logo - assuming a logo is needed.

Maybe just a "W". Or they could change it occasionally to sell more jerseys, etc. I dunno.

houdini1 · July 2020

explorerx4 said:
Let sleeping dogs lie.Just a funny picture.

Our dog Daisy sleeps like that all the time. We call it her twisted sister pose.

tjc78 · July 2020

houdini1 said:

driver100 said:
The Welland Canal is about 30 miles from me.....takes ships from Lake Erie into Lake Ontario.
This is what happened this weekend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5Fp0sbezo
How could two ships collide like that? Don't they have sonar things like most cars do these days?
What were the pilots - captains doing?
Where are they going to apply for new jobs?
Do you think it will just buff out?
One of those ships wouldn't have been named the Mary Celeste by any chance?

Two cruise ships hit each other in port a few years back too

28firefighter · July 2020

tjc78 said:

houdini1 said:

driver100 said:
The Welland Canal is about 30 miles from me.....takes ships from Lake Erie into Lake Ontario.
This is what happened this weekend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5Fp0sbezo
How could two ships collide like that? Don't they have sonar things like most cars do these days?
What were the pilots - captains doing?
Where are they going to apply for new jobs?
Do you think it will just buff out?
One of those ships wouldn't have been named the Mary Celeste by any chance?
Two cruise ships hit each other in port a few years back too

They should’ve sprung for the park assist package.

graphicguy · July 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:
Some will like me, some will loath me...but, I found another car YouTube channel to binge. Interesting take.....

https://youtu.be/MA6tQT2sp7g
I'd rather watch Alyssa detail for 20 mins than listen to him.
Ha ha, as I was watching that video I was thinking that she better be his wife or girlfriend or I see trouble in his future.

He’s had his wife in a few of his videos. He’d be a fool to do anything to jeopardize that.

Again, going by his videos, when he sells a loss leader, he tells the customer the vehicle will probably need work, and may not pass state inspection in Delaware. I would think he has them sign a paper stating they are buying something that has no warranty, implied or otherwise. Be tough sledding in court if the buyer claimed his/her 200K mile car should operate perfectly.

@kyfdx....had my Bengals season tix until 2015. Almost an entirely new team now. Should be interesting.

Side note, I’ve been visiting local new car dealers dropping off my business cards as another transporter resource. Funny, the dealer I buy all my Acuras from called mid-morning stating they needed a transport to their Dayton OH dealership to complete a deal....NOW! I got to the dealership in ½ hour. Got it to the Dayton dealer early afternoon. I transported at new RDX. What a nice SUV...relatively quick comparatively, nicely loaded (man, the ELS stereo in that thing is AMAZING).

Guy who came out to inspect the RDX when I parked it, had just finished F&I and wanted to inspect the new RDX. I told him I drove it UNDER the speed limit. He pulled his trade next to the RDX to put his personal belongings in it. He traded a Lincoln MKX...funny, as he had an S-Type badge glued to the back. Wish I took a picture.

Drove an ILX back. I was surprised how nice that car is. If they dropped the Honda 2.0 turbo in that thing, it was be a runaway hit.

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

“ he tells the customer the vehicle will probably need work, and may not pass state inspection in Delaware.“

I think he’s in New Hampshire. They have annual inspections which only focus on basic safety. According to their site the car doesn’t have to run or shift to pass.

explorerx4 · July 2020

@omarman,
Took me a minute to get 'Redacted', Pretty funny!

driver100 · July 2020

houdini1 said:

driver100 said:
The Welland Canal is about 30 miles from me.....takes ships from Lake Erie into Lake Ontario.
This is what happened this weekend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5Fp0sbezo
How could two ships collide like that? Don't they have sonar things like most cars do these days?
What were the pilots - captains doing?
Where are they going to apply for new jobs?
Do you think it will just buff out?
One of those ships wouldn't have been named the Mary Celeste by any chance?

They are pretty certain it was a mechanical breakdown - though don't have the exact answer yet.

venture · July 2020

oldfarmer50 said:
“ he tells the customer the vehicle will probably need work, and may not pass state inspection in Delaware.“

I think he’s in New Hampshire. They have annual inspections which only focus on basic safety. According to their site the car doesn’t have to run or shift to pass.

It still probably won't pass inspection in Delaware.

graphicguy · July 2020

oldfarmer50 said:
“ he tells the customer the vehicle will probably need work, and may not pass state inspection in Delaware.“

I think he’s in New Hampshire. They have annual inspections which only focus on basic safety. According to their site the car doesn’t have to run or shift to pass.

Oops...sorry, you’re right @oldfarmer50. He is in New Hampshire. What would be the purpose of an inspection if the car doesn’t even have to run or shift? How would you get it to the inspection station to begin with if that’s the case? Or, is it just a state money grab?

stickguy · July 2020

In NJ they just do emissions. Plug in the OBD and if that passes on codes, good to go. Tires, brakes, etc not checked.

snakeweasel · July 2020

graphicguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:
“ he tells the customer the vehicle will probably need work, and may not pass state inspection in Delaware.“

I think he’s in New Hampshire. They have annual inspections which only focus on basic safety. According to their site the car doesn’t have to run or shift to pass.
Oops...sorry, you’re right @oldfarmer50. He is in New Hampshire. What would be the purpose of an inspection if the car doesn’t even have to run or shift? How would you get it to the inspection station to begin with if that’s the case? Or, is it just a state money grab?

Well if a car doesn't run there is no need for a safety inspection as it wont be on the road. As for shifting electric cars dont shift so you have that.

graphicguy · July 2020

stickguy said:
In NJ they just do emissions. Plug in the OBD and if that passes on codes, good to go. Tires, brakes, etc not checked.

Back in the '90s, Cincinnati and the County it sits in had yearly testing to get a tag. It was run by a 3rd party (IIRC). Pretty Micky Mouse operation. I think it was just a visual look at tail pipe emissions test. Lots of graft and corruption with the whole process, from the County to the company who did the tests. They finally shut them all down under the guise of getting air quality to acceptable levels.

What they didn't say was the drop in emissions was because of more stringent CAFE and emissions standards by the Fed. Older cars, those that would pollute the worst, were exempt given their age.

According to NH BMV, even if your car has a "check engine" light on, or a cracked windshield, etc, it won't pass inspections. That "check engine" is the killer, as that could be anything from a loose gas cap, to a bad mass air sensor, to bad fuel injectors, etc.

https://www.dmv.org/nh-new-hampshire/smog-check.php

snakeweasel · July 2020

stickguy said:
In NJ they just do emissions. Plug in the OBD and if that passes on codes, good to go. Tires, brakes, etc not checked.

Same in Illinois but they only do it in high density urban areas, so mainly in and around Chicago and near St. Louis, MO.

imidazol97 · July 2020

graphicguy said:

Back in the '90s, Cincinnati and the County it sits in had yearly testing to get a tag. It was run by a 3rd party (IIRC). Pretty Micky Mouse operation. I think it was just a visual look at tail pipe emissions test. Lots of graft and corruption with the whole process, from the County to the company who did the tests. They finally shut them all down under the guise of getting air quality to acceptable levels.

What they didn't say was the drop in emissions was because of more stringent CAFE and emissions standards by the Fed. Older cars, those that would pollute the worst, were exempt given their age.

Echeck.

Still operates in the NE portion of the State of Ohio (Cleveland area).

I believe as various areas of the State of Ohio met air pollution standards set by who knows
who for a reqiured minimum number of days of the year, they were relieved of the corruption penalty of having to
take their cars in for a plug and play. I see now they don't even stick a sniffer in the
exhaust pipe. They just plug into the onboard computer.

https://epa.ohio.gov/dapc/mobile

Locations map:

https://batchgeo.com/map/17a24c5a45b7f877bef86a4a56e9e31d

stickguy · July 2020

Jersey has free centers. And some rules about if you fail, and spend a certain amount trying to fix, you get a pass. Which defeats the purpose. Or, can pay a garage to inspect. Some of course were notorious for basically selling stickers.

From looking on my walks, the new SOP seems to be to let your sticker expire, and not care. I see some that are years out of date at this point, and these are cars that drive around.

graphicguy · July 2020

Spent the evening detailing the Stinger last night. Being 6+ months old, and garage kept, there really weren't any trouble spots...not even any rock chips. But, got the hose (no foam cannon, unfortunately) and gave it a good bath. And, tried a different wax this time around other than my old tried and true Zaino. Used F11 Top Coat. Easy to use. Makes the car look really good. Let's see how long it lasts....

abacomike · July 2020

stickguy said:
Jersey has free centers. And some rules about if you fail, and spend a certain amount trying to fix, you get a pass. Which defeats the purpose. Or, can pay a garage to inspect. Some of course were notorious for basically selling stickers.

From looking on my walks, the new SOP seems to be to let your sticker expire, and not care. I see some that are years out of date at this point, and these are cars that drive around.

When I lived in PA back in 1998, I had to take my brand new car in for a pollution test. My Lexus did not pass inspection at the garage I took it to which amazed me.

I then took it to Lexus and they found a disconnected hose somewhere under the hood. I then took it back to the garage and again it did not pass. Back to Lexus and they found another vacuum leak. Third trip to garage was successful and they put a sticker on the front windshield.

stickguy · July 2020

Odd the dealer couldn’t do it.

benjaminh · July 2020

ab348 said:
I had a telephone appt with my family doc last week and was complaining about my knee that needs replacing really causing me problems. She offered a cortisone shot. The last one of those I had in it was close to 20 years ago. At the time I was told that you couldn't have many of them, and it had to be done by my orthopedist at the time, who used a very long needle. It hurt despite a shot of Novocaine a few minutes in advance.

She said she could do them at her office and phoned in a prescription for me to pick up on my way there today. She also told me that the old prohibition against too many of them is pretty much a non-issue now so I can have more if it helps. She did it and I barely felt anything this time. Quite the difference. Just hope it works.

All best wishes!

fintail · July 2020

A Lexus with a flaw? Unpossible!

Emissions tests are being phased out here (might be gone already). I think they cost around $15, and were bi-annual for cars of a certain age. I remember my 1989 MB had around 180K on it when it was tested, passed with no issue.

abacomike said:

When I lived in PA back in 1998, I had to take my brand new car in for a pollution test. My Lexus did not pass inspection at the garage I took it to which amazed me.

I then took it to Lexus and they found a disconnected hose somewhere under the hood. I then took it back to the garage and again it did not pass. Back to Lexus and they found another vacuum leak. Third trip to garage was successful and they put a sticker on the front windshield.

driver100 · July 2020

graphicguy said:
tried a different wax this time around other than my old tried and true Zaino. Used F11 Top Coat. Easy to use. Makes the car look really good. Let's see how long it lasts....

Stinger looks great GG. Now I feel guilty, just a light fast wax after 3 years

pensfan83 · July 2020

PA still requires an annual emission inspection unless you have a mileage exemption for driving under 5K miles for the past 12 months. Currently 3 of 4 cars in our fleet are or will be emissions exempt when they come due.

There were rumblings that the law would be changed to exempt all cars until they were a certain age when those components might start breaking down but I don't know what came of that.

stickguy · July 2020

One nice thing in NJ is with a new car, you get a 5 year sticker. I won’t be going to the station for a long time. Unless of course I buy a used car next year!

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

stickguy said:
In NJ they just do emissions. Plug in the OBD and if that passes on codes, good to go. Tires, brakes, etc not checked.

Just had the Mustang inspected yesterday. NY is big on emissions, they actually plug it into the state computer system for that test. No more sticker slapping. After that they trust the tech to actually look at brakes, lights etc.

I also had to get my can of fix-a-flat replaced because it posts a notice on the dash every 4 years or so.

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

graphicguy said:
Spent the evening detailing the Stinger last night. Being 6+ months old, and garage kept, there really weren't any trouble spots...not even any rock chips. But, got the hose (no foam cannon, unfortunately) and gave it a good bath. And, tried a different wax this time around other than my old tried and true Zaino. Used F11 Top Coat. Easy to use. Makes the car look really good. Let's see how long it lasts....

That’s nice. I saw a white Stinger around town lately. Bigger than I thought.

venture · July 2020

pensfan83 said:
PA still requires an annual emission inspection unless you have a mileage exemption for driving under 5K miles for the past 12 months. Currently 3 of 4 cars in our fleet are or will be emissions exempt when they come due.

There were rumblings that the law would be changed to exempt all cars until they were a certain age when those components might start breaking down but I don't know what came of that.

Emission testing is only required in 25 of the 67 counties in PA.

imidazol97 · July 2020

Stinger looks good.

I notice the license plate frame: Cars like eggs are cheaper in the country.

Is that still the motto at Jeff Wyler? It was when I lived half a mile from his one Chevy store in Union Twp.

tjc78 · July 2020

Now folks.. this is professional!

tjc78 · July 2020

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