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laurasdada · July 2020

Congrats, TJC! Always good to hear great news; hope the job exceeds your expectations.

28firefighter · July 2020

My Dad has Magnepans setup at home. They sound incredible, but you're correct, it is all in the setup and power behind it. I'm not an audiophile by an stretch (in fact, I probably have some ear drum damage from riding on fire trucks before they had headsets), but I was astonished at how much the sound changed simply by adjusting the angle by a degree or two in the room.

imidazol97 · July 2020

kyfdx said:

explorerx4 said:
@kyfdx,
Filter housing is next to the furnace. I put a 4 inch roller on it to show relative size.
Picture is a bit dark.

Wow

I have the same Lennox box for the filter with the same sticker. I even keep purchasing the same Lennox branded filters with Merv 11 ratings for filtration level. The filters were to be replaced _once_ per year. They suggested calling the company for service to do the filter change.

I buy the filters 5 in a box from Ebay. I ordered the first time mid afternoon and they were here the next day by noon. I figured out the Ebay source was a company near Cincinnati, so things got delivered fast.

I replace them at about 4 months so the electrostatic effect is fresher and still working. I can imagine one of these after year. But there's a whole lot of surface area in those pleats.

They did put @explorerx4's filter in the wrong place. Mine is on top of the furnace box.
Well actually the air comes down out of the attic in the return duct, so that's the difference. LOL

coldinohio · July 2020

i loved my baby Maggies; used a Rotel amp to drive, IIRC

good luck

jmonroe1 · July 2020

@tjc78, congrats on the new gig. As others have said, it has to be a relief. But, you’ll have to look at the down side too. This will cut down on the time you can now spend at the beach. That doesn’t sound like a fair trade off to me. No one ever said life is fair.

jmonroe

cdnpinhead · July 2020

graphicguy said:
OK...as we’re want to do in here, I’m going to go down an audio rabbit hole with this post. You’ve been warned.

It was long, but very readable. I'm looking forward to the next installment. Paragraphs really help. A wall of text is something I will rarely tackle. Not mentioning any names here, but. . .

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

tjc78 said:
Starting Monday I won’t be able to post as much since I’ll be starting a new gig ... Finally!

I’ll be on the other side of the desk working as a project manager for retail clients for a large firm. In other words I’ll be working with/for people that did the same job as I did.

Once COVID hit I realized the dramatic effect on retail businesses and that it would be better to work with a company that had several clients rather than a single retailer.

Several of my peers are still unemployed from the closing and several more in my network have been let go from other retailers. It really isn’t easy out there right now.

@stickguy I’ll pretty much have the same commute again that I had for years. Office is in Cherry Hill only about two miles from my old Moorestown office. It sounds like after the initial training that I may be able to transition to WFH. I’ll also have some light travel again, which is no big deal.

Good for you! I’m happy that you landed on your feet in this tough economy.

kyfdx · July 2020

graphicguy said:

explorerx4 said:
@kyfdx,
Filter housing is next to the furnace. I put a 4 inch roller on it to show relative size.
Picture is a bit dark.

I have one that’s similar, and actually in the same place on my HVAC. But, mine’s an “Aprilaire”. Not sure it really matters as it’s just a place where the air filter goes, albeit it’s a much bigger and thicker filter than the ones you see in HVAC systems with “normal” filters.

Are you sure your Aprilaire isn’t a humidifier?

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

suydam said:
I’m not perpetually offended and I was respectful. . I didn’t impute bad motivation. I just wouldn’t refer to myself or anyone else that way. These workers have been, cursed, spit on and even assaulted. I think dehumanization is why people feel free to treat them so badly. So maybe if we could all make an extra effort to be kind to each other and the people we encounter it would help us all get through this very difficult time. That’s all.

I didn’t say you were perpetually offended but you seemed to focus on my jargon rather than my message. I agree that low level workers take a lot of abuse for the actions of the larger company. That’s not fair. That’s why I made a point of reassuring the worker that I didn’t hold her responsible for the company’s policies. I know what that’s like. When we would transport cars to dealers the sales managers would occasionally berate the drivers over some minor scratch or missing option as if we had personally caused it. Wasn’t a lot of fun.

Speaking of jargon, I once lost a professional job I was interviewing for because the interviewer took exception to me using the word “lingo” when referring to learning new terms specific to that industry. Everyone has their trigger I guess.

driver100 · July 2020

tjc78, I'm a little late but congratulations........you landed a job in your field in a fairly short time considering the conditions you are facing.....a pandemic and a faltering sector of the business world....retail.
Enjoy your new job and very best wishes for success and excitement.

driver100 · July 2020

kyfdx said:

graphicguy said:

explorerx4 said:
@kyfdx,
Filter housing is next to the furnace. I put a 4 inch roller on it to show relative size.
Picture is a bit dark.

I have one that’s similar, and actually in the same place on my HVAC. But, mine’s an “Aprilaire”. Not sure it really matters as it’s just a place where the air filter goes, albeit it’s a much bigger and thicker filter than the ones you see in HVAC systems with “normal” filters.
Are you sure your Aprilaire isn’t a humidifier?

You mean I'm not the only one who isn't good at DIY stuff!

fintail · July 2020

Congrats! Good strategy too, some forms of retail are not where one might want to be these days.

tjc78 said:
Starting Monday I won’t be able to post as much since I’ll be starting a new gig ... Finally!

jmonroe1 · July 2020

driver100 said:

kyfdx said:

graphicguy said:

explorerx4 said:
@kyfdx,
Filter housing is next to the furnace. I put a 4 inch roller on it to show relative size.
Picture is a bit dark.

I have one that’s similar, and actually in the same place on my HVAC. But, mine’s an “Aprilaire”. Not sure it really matters as it’s just a place where the air filter goes, albeit it’s a much bigger and thicker filter than the ones you see in HVAC systems with “normal” filters.
Are you sure your Aprilaire isn’t a humidifier?
You mean I'm not the only one who isn't good at DIY stuff!

Well, in here you are but we’ve been warned about pointing fingers.

jmonroe

graphicguy · July 2020

kyfdx said:

graphicguy said:

explorerx4 said:
@kyfdx,
Filter housing is next to the furnace. I put a 4 inch roller on it to show relative size.
Picture is a bit dark.

I have one that’s similar, and actually in the same place on my HVAC. But, mine’s an “Aprilaire”. Not sure it really matters as it’s just a place where the air filter goes, albeit it’s a much bigger and thicker filter than the ones you see in HVAC systems with “normal” filters.
Are you sure your Aprilaire isn’t a humidifier?

You’re right. The Aprilaire is the the humidifier. Space Gard is the air filter....

fintail · July 2020

With some of the crap lower wage workers are put through, I am sometimes amazed there isn't some kind of revolt. Of course. TEM syndrome is a strong motivator to not stir the pot. Then again, I've seen some pretty atrocious "leadership" by overpaid empty suits in professional settings, too.

driver100 said:
I was a drone working for a company that had book displays in Wallymarts. Sometimes they would let us in early to work on our display areas. It was really sad to see their morning pep talk.......music came on loud and clear, Taking Care of Business would come on and employees would gather in one area. They were told how sales were going and what they should do to increase sales. Then they would do a few cheers, and then were sent on their way. Most are talking to themselves or coworkers about how awful this whole thing was. Demeaning, make them act enthusiastic and cheery when they couldn't possibly be. Talk about slavery.

stickguy · July 2020

I’m guessing my Sony Bluetooth speaker streaming from my iPhone isn’t going to be competitive?

qbrozen · July 2020

stickguy said:
I’m guessing my Sony Bluetooth speaker streaming from my iPhone isn’t going to be competitive?

but you splurged for Sony. I think mine is a gray market So-hny or possibly Pi-uh-near.

Michaell · July 2020

I stream to a Bose - let the flaming commence!

qbrozen · July 2020

You ever shop on facebook marketplace and find yourself constantly confused? These people speak in another language sometimes and just assume you are fluent as well.

My son is looking for a new surfboard and dirt bike. I just saw one for a bike where the seller writes "they are all clapped. $200 each." WHAT? Does that mean you clap when it starts? Or does it start when you clap? Clap on, clap off? WTH are you saying, man?! Another reads, "2019 Yamaha TT · Driven 1,234 miles. Iso 125 , 140, 150 need a pitter." HUH?? I get the first part. OK. But what the hell else are you sayin? ISO? As in the International Org for Standardization? What does that have to do with this? And what's up with the numbers? Do you not know the cc of your bike? Are you guessing it is one of those? If I guess right, do I win? And, by pitter, I think you mean pit bike ... maybe ... does that mean YOU need a pit bike? Why are you telling me this?

I won't even get into some of these surfboard ads.

suydam · July 2020

@tjc78 — Congratulations!

cdnpinhead · July 2020

oldfarmer50 said:
Everyone has their trigger I guess.

Some more than others, but very true nonetheless.

fintail · July 2020

I think "clapped" is "clapped out", as in neglected and worn out. ISO = in search of?

I run a few wanted ads on marketplace and CL, and the responses I receive can be amusing, in terms of reading comprehension.

jmonroe1 · July 2020

Michaell said:
I stream to a Bose - let the flaming commence!

I don’t stream. I sing to myself and when I can’t bare that anymore, I just hum.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · July 2020

qbrozen said:
You ever shop on facebook marketplace and find yourself constantly confused? These people speak in another language sometimes and just assume you are fluent as well.

My son is looking for a new surfboard and dirt bike. I just saw one for a bike where the seller writes "they are all clapped. $200 each." WHAT? Does that mean you clap when it starts? Or does it start when you clap? Clap on, clap off? WTH are you saying, man?! Another reads, "2019 Yamaha TT · Driven 1,234 miles. Iso 125 , 140, 150 need a pitter." HUH?? I get the first part. OK. But what the hell else are you sayin? ISO? As in the International Org for Standardization? What does that have to do with this? And what's up with the numbers? Do you not know the cc of your bike? Are you guessing it is one of those? If I guess right, do I win? And, by pitter, I think you mean pit bike ... maybe ... does that mean YOU need a pit bike? Why are you telling me this?

I won't even get into some of these surfboard ads.

Remember when the world was simpler to live in and people all talked the same language. At least in this country.

jmonroe

28firefighter · July 2020

I always thought clapped out meant heavily modified. I dunno.

tjc78 · July 2020

Hey all, thanks again for all the well wishes.

@fintail Yes, I figured it was time for a bit of a change. I'm really nervous to work for a retailer again especially considering my wife works for one.

Luckily, her company is one of the few that is still opening stores and doing well.

tjc78 · July 2020

graphicguy said:
OK...as we’re want to do in here, I’m going to go down an audio rabbit hole with this post. You’ve been warned.

A good friend of mine (who just retired from Intel, my former competitor) just dropped a bundle on a new Home Theater System. He’s prone to have more money than sense (something I can sometimes relate to). He didn’t build it up over time. He wrote a check and got a projector, a screen, an AV Receiver, 11 speakers, sundry wiring and accessories delivered. He’s a neophyte when it comes to audio, but that’s what friends are for.

We started on it last night (this installation is going to take a couple more nights to complete). He had his basement finished for Home Theater use. Not unlike mine except I made an entire play room out of mine which included a home theater set up.

I quizzed him about why he didn’t have the store set it up for him. He said they wanted to charge too much. Understand, he just dropped well into five figures on equipment, but wouldn’t spend ~$1,000-$2,000 to have it all professionally installed. Again, I suppose that’s what friends are for.

We got it all unboxed and hoofed it down to his Home Theater room. Started taking measurements and running cable through the walls and ceiling. Got the projector installed in a ceiling perch and the screen into the motorized lift. I was pleased with how much we got done, but there’s a lot more to do.

We called it a night and he rewarded me with a snifter of my favorite bourbon (Basil Hayden). I had noticed he had what looked like shelving tucked into a corner of his den. But, they were weird looking shelves. Asked him about them.

He walked up and pulled them out of the corner. They were these....

https://www.magnepan.com/model_lrs

This is not a well known speaker manufacturer, but are revered to those who know of them.

He said they sounded terrible but was out of the period where he could return them.

These speakers need lots of current to sound good. A $500 AV Receiver won’t cut it. Plus, they send a signal both forward and back. So, they need room to “breathe”. They have to be set up well into the room to sound right. No shoving them against a wall. I’ve not heard the particular speakers this guy had, but have heard numerous Magnepans in the past. They’re unlike anything you’ve ever heard and are glorious when set up correctly. I relayed this information. He said he was “over them” and asked if I would be interested in them.

Magnepans tend to cost on the high side of stereo speakers....$2K to start and go up from there.

He said the ones he has cost $700 and offered them to me for $250 because I was helping him. Great deal....they’re only 6 moths old and were used a handful of times before shoved into a corner.

Downside....these are only good for a two channel system. Even though the cost of entry is cheap, the electronics to drive them would be hefty. Plus, you need room....lots of room. I guess I could convert one of my bedrooms into a listening room. So much for putting my house on the market to downsize.

Not sure I want to go down that road. But, I know what these things sound like. And, they are fantastic in a total sense, not just for the money.

But, I’m finding myself looking at High Current amps and pre-amps that might couple well with them.

We’re back at the install tonight. I’ll have to inspect them more closely.

This sounds like my kind of night! I haven't wired anything other than my shed down the shore recently.

omarman · July 2020

America and Great Britain separated by a common language.

I think if you had a mini bike as a kid then that counts as pit bike. Sort of.

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

qbrozen said:
You ever shop on facebook marketplace and find yourself constantly confused? These people speak in another language sometimes and just assume you are fluent as well.

My son is looking for a new surfboard and dirt bike. I just saw one for a bike where the seller writes "they are all clapped. $200 each." WHAT? Does that mean you clap when it starts? Or does it start when you clap? Clap on, clap off? WTH are you saying, man?! Another reads, "2019 Yamaha TT · Driven 1,234 miles. Iso 125 , 140, 150 need a pitter." HUH?? I get the first part. OK. But what the hell else are you sayin? ISO? As in the International Org for Standardization? What does that have to do with this? And what's up with the numbers? Do you not know the cc of your bike? Are you guessing it is one of those? If I guess right, do I win? And, by pitter, I think you mean pit bike ... maybe ... does that mean YOU need a pit bike? Why are you telling me this?

I won't even get into some of these surfboard ads.

They speak to an audience who probably know exactly what that means. I feel the same way when you guys discuss various audio equipment. I’m guessing Iso means ‘in search of’???

I got a laugh when I was looking for potential driver jobs with Carvana. Their job description mentioned twice that I would be driving a “kick [non-permissible content removed]” delivery vehicle and I should have a good personality so the buyer wouldn’t think the process “sucked”. Definitely looking for a younger demographic.

roadburner · July 2020

I'm looking at you, oldfarmer50-

oldfarmer50 · July 2020

roadburner said:
I'm looking at you, oldfarmer50-

LOL

tjc78 · July 2020

jmonroe1 said:
@tjc78, congrats on the new gig. As others have said, it has to be a relief. But, you’ll have to look at the down side too. This will cut down on the time you can now spend at the beach. That doesn’t sound like a fair trade off to me. No one ever said life is fair.

jmonroe

Haha. As I sit here at the shore with a frosty beverage, some tunes on the deck and a fire to keep the bugs away.

At least we have the place exactly where we want it. We can come Friday nights and enjoy. Wife is think about working Friday here and heading down Thursday nights. I’ll meet her on Fri night.

Wife took off tomorrow and we are gonna make the best of the next few days before I start. May even get a date night Saturday if my mom is still coming tomorrow afternoon! Life is good !

nyccarguy · July 2020

@tjc78 - I just finished reading all the posts after returning from Lake George this afternoon. Congrats my friend!

venture · July 2020

I forgot...

The one A/C unit was up and running on Tuesday. The other one on Wednesday.

Wednesday morning I said to the guy, "It's a little warm upstairs". He told me to give it a little time.

Both thermostats are set at 74 and 1st and 2nd floor are fine. They hardly ever run.

graphicguy · July 2020

Nothing wrong with today’s music set ups. Matter of fact, the stereo in my Stinger sounds worlds better than the mega buck set up I had before my son was born. Matter of fact, I’m amazed at the sound some of these Bluetooth speakers make. Bose, JBL, Logitech (UE division), etc really found a market and have brought out good products to fill that market. Fact is, you can stream decent sounding music anywhere, carry your entire music collection on your phone, and not be stuck listening in a single room of your home to hear it.

At one point, I had 2,000 vinyl albums (that I wish I had today). A goodly amount of them were quite rare and out of print, no doubt worth a nice sum today. I kept them all pristine. Sold them all, and all the associated equipment to play them, when my former spouse and I split. Today, those albums would probably fetch $25,000-$30,000. C’est la Vie!

I need to get my friend’s speakers hooked up to see if any equipment I’ve got will drive them. Not sure if I want them. But, for the money, I guess I could buy them and stick them in a corner to gather dust, too.

We got a picture and sound out of his Home Theater set up last night. We connected the left, center, right, left and right surround, left and right rear surround speakers. Then, we connect the left and right “height” speakers in the ceiling. Got the (2) subwoofers connected. Got his Projector, Blue Ray player and the speakers connected to his Sony ES AV Receiver (Not my cup of tea, but it seems relatively robust). The Sony ES has a weak “auto-speaker set up” feature. I’ll have to do that by ear/hand. I’ll set speaker distances, set crossovers, adjust SPL (with my handy dandy Radio Shack SPL meter we talked about a little while ago), etc.

None of it’s dialed in. Still need to adjust the projector, too. But, I expect I’ll get all that done today. And, the job will be finished.

Michaell · July 2020

@graphicguy - seems like you've enjoyed yourself setting up this system for your friend. I'm probably at the opposite end of the audiophile spectrum. I did have a surround sound system in the first house I owned. Since we bought new construction, I had the family room pre-wired for the speakers, then went to a well known audio store here in Denver to get a specific model to install.

Now, it's a soundbar and wireless sub in the current house.

A total bummer about the vinyl. I had a few vinyl albums back in the day, but ditched them around the time CD's became popular. Now I'd like to pick up a turntable and a few select albums just for the 'warmth' of the music - problem is, I don't really have anywhere in my house to set up a turntable.

For those of you who are into vinyl, I recommend the book "The Revenge of Analog", which talks about not only vinyl albums, but also notebooks (Moleskine, predominantly), board games, real film for photos, and the like.

It's nice to take a break from the digital world from time to time.

roadburner · July 2020

graphicguy said:
Nothing wrong with today’s music set ups. Matter of fact, the stereo in my Stinger sounds worlds better than the mega buck set up I had before my son was born. Matter of fact, I’m amazed at the sound some of these Bluetooth speakers make. Bose, JBL, Logitech (UE division), etc really found a market and have brought out good products to fill that market. Fact is, you can stream decent sounding music anywhere, carry your entire music collection on your phone, and not be stuck listening in a single room of your home to hear it.

At one point, I had 2,000 vinyl albums (that I wish I had today). A goodly amount of them were quite rare and out of print, no doubt worth a nice sum today. I kept them all pristine. Sold them all, and all the associated equipment to play them, when my former spouse and I split. Today, those albums would probably fetch $25,000-$30,000. C’est la Vie!

I need to get my friend’s speakers hooked up to see if any equipment I’ve got will drive them. Not sure if I want them. But, for the money, I guess I could buy them and stick them in a corner to gather dust, too.

We got a picture and sound out of his Home Theater set up last night. We connected the left, center, right, left and right surround, left and right rear surround speakers. Then, we connect the left and right “height” speakers in the ceiling. Got the (2) subwoofers connected. Got his Projector, Blue Ray player and the speakers connected to his Sony ES AV Receiver (Not my cup of tea, but it seems relatively robust). The Sony ES has a weak “auto-speaker set up” feature. I’ll have to do that by ear/hand. I’ll set speaker distances, set crossovers, adjust SPL (with my handy dandy Radio Shack SPL meter we talked about a little while ago), etc.

None of it’s dialed in. Still need to adjust the projector, too. But, I expect I’ll get all that done today. And, the job will be finished.

The room my main HTS is installed in is oddly shaped, so Audyssey MultEQ is a major advantage. My basement HTS doesn't have that issue as as it's virtually anechoic- I just set the distances and SPL for each speaker and it sounds really good- especially considering that I found the Energy Take Classic 5.1 speaker system on sale for only $300. The Denon AVR and Samsung BD player came from my main system when I went 7.1

tjc78 · July 2020

@graphicguy
Try and get your hands on a Denon POA2200 or 2400.

I have one and it drove anything I threw at it. It’s actually overkill for my B&Ws so it’s not hooked up at the moment.

driver100 · July 2020

...........and I am happy with the sound from my Alexa speaker. I ask for 60s music or soft popular music and it is clear and sharp.
My big problem with buying a big sound system is I don't have a block of time to sit around and actually listen to it.

jmonroe1 · July 2020

driver100 said:
...........and I am happy with the sound from my Alexa speaker. I ask for 60s music or soft popular music and it is clear and sharp.
My big problem with buying a big sound system is I don't have a block of time to sit around and actually listen to it.

That’s what’s good about singing to yourself, you only do it when you have the time to do it.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · July 2020

@tjc78,
Congrats on the new job!
Don't forget, you can't go to work in your PJ's on Monday.

driver100 · July 2020

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:
...........and I am happy with the sound from my Alexa speaker. I ask for 60s music or soft popular music and it is clear and sharp.
My big problem with buying a big sound system is I don't have a block of time to sit around and actually listen to it.
That’s what’s good about singing to yourself, you only do it when you have the time to do it.

jmonroe

.....this, from a truly wise man (and much brighter than the original JM)

explorerx4 · July 2020

@driver100,
Did Alexa tell you to say that?

roadburner · July 2020

Listening to music on an Alexa speaker; isn't that an oxymoron?
Ugh.

andres3 · July 2020

graphicguy said:
OK...as we’re want to do in here, I’m going to go down an audio rabbit hole with this post. You’ve been warned.

A good friend of mine (who just retired from Intel, my former competitor) just dropped a bundle on a new Home Theater System. He’s prone to have more money than sense (something I can sometimes relate to). He didn’t build it up over time. He wrote a check and got a projector, a screen, an AV Receiver, 11 speakers, sundry wiring and accessories delivered. He’s a neophyte when it comes to audio, but that’s what friends are for.

We started on it last night (this installation is going to take a couple more nights to complete). He had his basement finished for Home Theater use. Not unlike mine except I made an entire play room out of mine which included a home theater set up.

I quizzed him about why he didn’t have the store set it up for him. He said they wanted to charge too much. Understand, he just dropped well into five figures on equipment, but wouldn’t spend ~$1,000-$2,000 to have it all professionally installed. Again, I suppose that’s what friends are for.

We got it all unboxed and hoofed it down to his Home Theater room. Started taking measurements and running cable through the walls and ceiling. Got the projector installed in a ceiling perch and the screen into the motorized lift. I was pleased with how much we got done, but there’s a lot more to do.

We called it a night and he rewarded me with a snifter of my favorite bourbon (Basil Hayden). I had noticed he had what looked like shelving tucked into a corner of his den. But, they were weird looking shelves. Asked him about them.

He walked up and pulled them out of the corner. They were these....

https://www.magnepan.com/model_lrs

This is not a well known speaker manufacturer, but are revered to those who know of them.

He said they sounded terrible but was out of the period where he could return them.

These speakers need lots of current to sound good. A $500 AV Receiver won’t cut it. Plus, they send a signal both forward and back. So, they need room to “breathe”. They have to be set up well into the room to sound right. No shoving them against a wall. I’ve not heard the particular speakers this guy had, but have heard numerous Magnepans in the past. They’re unlike anything you’ve ever heard and are glorious when set up correctly. I relayed this information. He said he was “over them” and asked if I would be interested in them.

Magnepans tend to cost on the high side of stereo speakers....$2K to start and go up from there.

He said the ones he has cost $700 and offered them to me for $250 because I was helping him. Great deal....they’re only 6 moths old and were used a handful of times before shoved into a corner.

Downside....these are only good for a two channel system. Even though the cost of entry is cheap, the electronics to drive them would be hefty. Plus, you need room....lots of room. I guess I could convert one of my bedrooms into a listening room. So much for putting my house on the market to downsize.

Not sure I want to go down that road. But, I know what these things sound like. And, they are fantastic in a total sense, not just for the money.

But, I’m finding myself looking at High Current amps and pre-amps that might couple well with them.

We’re back at the install tonight. I’ll have to inspect them more closely.

I got just the 2-channel hefty super strong high current pre-amp you need, but you'll have to pay top dollar for it. It's an old Denon INTEGRATED AMP (one of the last good things they sold a decade ago) unit with 80 watts at 8 Ohm and 160W at 4 Ohm just like a perfectly designed amp should put out and weighs north of 50 pounds. Not sure I want to get rid of it, hence the top dollar request

Works perfectly, and still have the super basic remote.

99% sure it's this relatively "modern" old-school bad boy: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-ABSdL36EGHQ/p_033PMA2KIV/Denon-PMA-2000IVR.html

This guy likes his:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJxtRPbJYIY

driver100 · July 2020

roadburner said:
Listening to music on an Alexa speaker; isn't that an oxymoron?
Ugh.

Values change as you get older. I used to have pretty good sound systems many years ago....huge speakers. It isn't that important to me now. I like the clear uncluttered sound of Alexa and streaming has pretty good sound on TV...though a sound bar would probably make a difference compared to the tiny speakers that must be in the 60 inch Samsung.

qbrozen · July 2020

Sharing some funny/interesting/absurd facebook ads.

I don't think you understand what "working order" means.

Say what now??

There are many ads like this one. Do you really not want to trade for cash? I don't get it.

roadburner · July 2020

driver100 said:

roadburner said:
Listening to music on an Alexa speaker; isn't that an oxymoron?
Ugh.
Values change as you get older. I used to have pretty good sound systems many years ago....huge speakers. It isn't that important to me now. I like the clear uncluttered sound of Alexa and streaming has pretty good sound on TV...though a sound bar would probably make a difference compared to the tiny speakers that must be in the 60 inch Samsung.

My values haven't changed as I've aged- if anything I'm even more reluctant to compromise. I once wrote that if I told my wife I was going to buy a new Camry I would guarantee that she'd be filing a mental inquest warrant ASAP. I'd also guarantee that she'd do the same if I told her I was dumping my 7.1 HTS in favor of a monophonic speaker as well as the speakers on the TV.
The two words I don't want on my tombstone are:
"He Settled."

omarman · July 2020

There's a guy who did not lead a life of quiet desperation.

driver100 · July 2020

roadburner said:

driver100 said:

roadburner said:
Listening to music on an Alexa speaker; isn't that an oxymoron?
Ugh.
Values change as you get older. I used to have pretty good sound systems many years ago....huge speakers. It isn't that important to me now. I like the clear uncluttered sound of Alexa and streaming has pretty good sound on TV...though a sound bar would probably make a difference compared to the tiny speakers that must be in the 60 inch Samsung.
My values haven't changed as I've aged- if anything I'm even more reluctant to compromise. I once wrote that if I told my wife I was going to buy a new Camry I would guarantee that she'd be filing a mental inquest warrant ASAP. I'd also guarantee that she'd do the same if I told her I was dumping my 7.1 HTS in favor of a monophonic speaker as well as the speakers on the TV.
The two words I don't want on my tombstone are:
"He Settled."

I probably wouldn't settle for a Camry either...I mean I am still breathing. I loved my BMW convertible, but wouldn't consider another BMW Cabriolet because I can't be bothered messing around with snow tires anymore. My AWD is good enough to get through most snow. If my MB became problematic I might settle for a Lexus........just a little more willing to compromise these days especially if it means more time-for me. I won't watch a movie or TV program if I am not into it after 15 minutes....life is limited. I'd rather have a Camry than a fancy car that is in the garage half the time. Listening to a good music system.....I love music and appreciate good sound...it is just to passive, rather be doing or seeing something...places to go and see - tennis games to play!

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