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tjc78 · August 2020

I hear you. I’d be willing to bet that there are people paying $600 for a loaded Explorer, so it’s not all that crazy.

driver100 · August 2020

abacomike said:

I realize that they are providing a service to the public during these storm developments but there's a troubling "slant" in my opinion when compared to local weather reporting which tends to be less dramatic and less ominous.

These days every newscast begins with "Breaking News", that is an exaggeration so you will stay glued. Similar to the weather situation, you only hear the worst possible scenario, so you better stay glued to your TV to find out if you are going to survive.
It looks like South Florida dodged the bullet and a strong storm or possible hurricane will affect areas North along the coast. Always good to be prepared for the worst, but, also good to know the worst is not a definite....only a possibility.

roadburner · August 2020

Here's the actual car I'm looking at.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
Mustang is a big car for over there. And must cost a fortune to run at their gas prices.
And not cheap to buy. What did he say, 48k pounds? Isn’t that over $70k?
According to Fords UK website the Mustang starts at 38,035 Pounds which at today's exchange rate works out to $49,771. Nope not cheap at all.

Yes, the video is about the Bullitt version. I think that’s $50k here.

Today I was wasting time looking at Craigslist for who knows what. I noticed a large number of Ford Fouci at dealers lots in the 14’-16’ range. Since those are in the range when Ford had those terrible dual clutch transmissions I couldn’t understand the logic of buying those at auction when they were sure to result in disappointment. Could that be a sign of the shortage of cars in the wholesale market?

I thought that a Focus with a manual might make a good knock around winter car but those are tough to find. Even when you do the prices are astounding.

This looked nice until I ran it through TMV and it came out $2000 overpriced.

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/albany-2016-ford-focus/7161668200.html

Most other low milage cars are similarly way over what Edmunds says they’re worth. I wonder if this is a function of market forces or just delusion on the part of sellers.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

imidazol97 said:
@abacomike hasn't posted, and I heard on radio early news about lost power. I assume
he's lost his internet connection. But his cellphone might be providing access if the
towers are working.

Sandman is in that same area in a residence. Dino001 is midstate if I recall.

Hope everyone is safe.

I think Dino001 is over in Tampa near the driver100 estate. Sandy’s kids are over near Orlando. Even though I think they’re getting tropical storm force winds it still makes you worry.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

graphicguy said:

explorerx4 said:
This video is almost as strange as the GoPro in the tire.
Right hand drive Bullitt Mustang.
Started out thinking, why is the guy getting in on the passenger side?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFTbCbb_db0
Could he gush any more about the Mustang? I think the reviewer is smitten.

And what, exactly, is wrong with that?

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

roadburner said:
Here's the actual car I'm looking at.</blockquote

I‘M clueless on BMW prices but isn’t that a bit high for a 4 (almost 5) year old car? What was the sticker when new?

pensfan83 · August 2020

tjc78 said:
I hear you. I’d be willing to bet that there are people paying $600 for a loaded Explorer, so it’s not all that crazy.

I fidget at payments that begin with a 5, can't imagine one with a 6.

fintail · August 2020

Capitalism, gotta sell that ad space. Free markets!

Weather reporting is in a special hard place - under-report and you'll be called out, over-report and you'll be whined about. No way to win. I like weather forecasts that never have a 0% or 100% chance of rain, cover all bases.

driver100 said:

These days every newscast begins with "Breaking News", that is an exaggeration so you will stay glued. Similar to the weather situation, you only hear the worst possible scenario, so you better stay glued to your TV to find out if you are going to survive.
It looks like South Florida dodged the bullet and a strong storm or possible hurricane will affect areas North along the coast. Always good to be prepared for the worst, but, also good to know the worst is not a definite....only a possibility.

fintail · August 2020

To heck with budgets, hearses don't have luggage racks, amirite?

Is the "EZ Purchase Price" the one where the seller laughs when taking the money?

Car looks brand new, and I think the color combo suits the ethos of the car in general. Probable 50/50 chance the turn signal stalk has never been activated

roadburner said:
Here's the actual car I'm looking at.

ab348 · August 2020

Weathertainment is just another reality show that could just as easily be on TLC or one of the other channels that floods us with this dreck. They do it because people watch since many have a endless appetite for being scared. Same audience as those who like horror/scary movies I suppose. Just don’t confuse it with useful factual information.

roadburner · August 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:
Here's the actual car I'm looking at.

It’s spot on for the age and model. The true ///M cars hold their value pretty well. The 1988 M6 that I paid around $25,000 for in 1992 cost $56,000 new. Today if you want one plan on paying north of $100,000 for it.

abacomike · August 2020

pensfan83 said:

tjc78 said:
I hear you. I’d be willing to bet that there are people paying $600 for a loaded Explorer, so it’s not all that crazy.
I fidget at payments that begin with a 5, can't imagine one with a 6.

And how about $1703 a month for 36 months? But remember, I don't have a mortgage, kids in college, a wife or significant other to support, and I rarely have dinner out at a restaurant. At least the loan is 0% interest for 36 months.😩😜🤪🤓

driver100 · August 2020

pensfan83 said:

tjc78 said:
I hear you. I’d be willing to bet that there are people paying $600 for a loaded Explorer, so it’s not all that crazy.
I fidget at payments that begin with a 5, can't imagine one with a 6.

In 1970 I rented a brand new one bedroom apartment for $125 a month, it is hard to get my head around leasing a car for $600 a month. My first car I bought was a 1959 Austin Sprite......bought in 1967 for $425.....total price - not monthly payments!

imidazol97 · August 2020

TV can be realistic at times. TV Land channel carries Golden Girls on Sunday for hours.
Today Golden Girls ran an episode with a hurricane in Miami. The shots of the house had gusting
winds whipping the trees, e.g..

omarman · August 2020

Yep it does seem like everything is getting more expensive. Last year I was talking to a nursing school student who was working part time as a home healthcare aide. She had decided to get a 2 BR apartment instead of a 1BR because at least she'd have a room mate to help with the bills. Well "reliable stable room mate" may sound like a plan but...

Anyway she began quoting some of the rents for 1 BR apartments on the far north side and all of it sounded high to a boomer like me. One place that wasn't that far from me offered a monthly payment of $750 to $850 for 1 BR. I asked if that included W/D hookup but she didn't know. She did point out that the rent didn't include utilities. Wow.

I'm too old to be that young again.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:
Here's the actual car I'm looking at.
It’s spot on for the age and model. The true ///M cars hold their value pretty well. The 1988 M6 that I paid around $25,000 for in 1992 cost $56,000 new. Today if you want one plan on paying north of $100,000 for it.

Sounds like a good investment then. What did you say, it’s $6k over budget? Offer $6k under and see what happens.

driver100 · August 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:
Here's the actual car I'm looking at.
It’s spot on for the age and model. The true ///M cars hold their value pretty well. The 1988 M6 that I paid around $25,000 for in 1992 cost $56,000 new. Today if you want one plan on paying north of $100,000 for it.
Sounds like a good investment then. What did you say, it’s $6k over budget? Offer $6k under and see what happens.

Don't encourage him to do that. He'll offer way below asking price and then walk out the door when they refuse his offer :@

explorerx4 · August 2020

I just looked up where one of my kids lives near Madison WI.
500 sq ft apartment is $910.
It does have nice amenities, in unit washer/dryer, indoor parking, outdoor pool area.

driver100 · August 2020

Great amenities, but.....500 sq ft for $910! I guess that is sticker shock when you once paid one price for something 30 years ago and today it is 3 or 4 times as much.

qbrozen · August 2020

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:
Thinking of power supplies, I've considered recommending son and DIL check into backup power for their new home. I've seen stories about larger batteries as backups rather than natural gas or gasoline powered generators.

Does anyone have any experience with either one? I've also considered buying them a fairly large backup power supply for their computers since they both are heavy uses and work from home much of the time.
We have a neighbor who has a Tesla powerwall and solar panels. The solar panels run his home during the day and excess power charges the powerwall and the powerwall powers the house at night. Not sure what it cost him but he is all but off the grid. He likes it.

However given the price I would look at a gas generator.

Battery backup is about the least cost effective solution. When I had my panels installed, they quoted me $5k for the battery backup. IIRC, the estimate was that it could provide up to 5 hrs of power. My NG generator cost me $3500 and offers an indefinite power supply. Maybe it makes more sense if you have never experienced a long-term power outage AND you live where you don’t get credit for the excess power your solar feeds into the grid. Neither of those is true for me.

kyfdx · August 2020

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:
Thinking of power supplies, I've considered recommending son and DIL check into backup power for their new home. I've seen stories about larger batteries as backups rather than natural gas or gasoline powered generators.

Does anyone have any experience with either one? I've also considered buying them a fairly large backup power supply for their computers since they both are heavy uses and work from home much of the time.
We have a neighbor who has a Tesla powerwall and solar panels. The solar panels run his home during the day and excess power charges the powerwall and the powerwall powers the house at night. Not sure what it cost him but he is all but off the grid. He likes it.

However given the price I would look at a gas generator.
Battery backup is about the least cost effective solution. When I had my panels installed, they quoted me $5k for the battery backup. IIRC, the estimate was that it could provide up to 5 hrs of power. My NG generator cost me $3500 and offers an indefinite power supply. Maybe it makes more sense if you have never experienced a long-term power outage AND you live where you don’t get credit for the excess power your solar feeds into the grid. Neither of those is true for me.

Do you use propane, or is it hooked up to the natural gas utility?

snakeweasel · August 2020

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:
Thinking of power supplies, I've considered recommending son and DIL check into backup power for their new home. I've seen stories about larger batteries as backups rather than natural gas or gasoline powered generators.

Does anyone have any experience with either one? I've also considered buying them a fairly large backup power supply for their computers since they both are heavy uses and work from home much of the time.
We have a neighbor who has a Tesla powerwall and solar panels. The solar panels run his home during the day and excess power charges the powerwall and the powerwall powers the house at night. Not sure what it cost him but he is all but off the grid. He likes it.

However given the price I would look at a gas generator.
Battery backup is about the least cost effective solution. When I had my panels installed, they quoted me $5k for the battery backup. IIRC, the estimate was that it could provide up to 5 hrs of power. My NG generator cost me $3500 and offers an indefinite power supply. Maybe it makes more sense if you have never experienced a long-term power outage AND you live where you don’t get credit for the excess power your solar feeds into the grid. Neither of those is true for me.

In this situation the batteries are not a backup so to speak, they store any excess power for the night or times when there is not enough light to produce enough all the power needs of the house.

Once the powerwall is fully charged any excess power generated gets sent onto the grid for credit.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

explorerx4 said:
I just looked up where one of my kids lives near Madison WI.
500 sq ft apartment is $910.
It does have nice amenities, in unit washer/dryer, indoor parking, outdoor pool area.

My son’s tiny (500-600 sq.ft.) 2 br in Albany was $865 utilities included but it was a real dump. College neighborhood on the edge of a rough section. Constant noise from either parties or gun fire. $900 is minimum for anything worth living in around here.

jmonroe1 · August 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:
Here's the actual car I'm looking at.
It’s spot on for the age and model. The true ///M cars hold their value pretty well. The 1988 M6 that I paid around $25,000 for in 1992 cost $56,000 new. Today if you want one plan on paying north of $100,000 for it.
Sounds like a good investment then. What did you say, it’s $6k over budget? Offer $6k under and see what happens.

He could but I think he’d be embarrassed when he’s broomed out of a showroom where he once worked.

jmonroe

roadburner · August 2020

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:
Here's the actual car I'm looking at.
It’s spot on for the age and model. The true ///M cars hold their value pretty well. The 1988 M6 that I paid around $25,000 for in 1992 cost $56,000 new. Today if you want one plan on paying north of $100,000 for it.
Sounds like a good investment then. What did you say, it’s $6k over budget? Offer $6k under and see what happens.
He could but I think he’d be embarrassed when he’s broomed out of a showroom where he once worked.

jmonroe

The NCM is a sales guy I worked with quite a bit. He treated us very well when we bought the X1 and also when I turned in the i3. If we can't make a deal there will be no hard feelings.

28firefighter · August 2020

They’ll cut right to the chase with @roadburner because they know he isn’t a stroke. I doubt they’ll come down $5k but you never know.

qbrozen · August 2020

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:
Thinking of power supplies, I've considered recommending son and DIL check into backup power for their new home. I've seen stories about larger batteries as backups rather than natural gas or gasoline powered generators.

Does anyone have any experience with either one? I've also considered buying them a fairly large backup power supply for their computers since they both are heavy uses and work from home much of the time.
We have a neighbor who has a Tesla powerwall and solar panels. The solar panels run his home during the day and excess power charges the powerwall and the powerwall powers the house at night. Not sure what it cost him but he is all but off the grid. He likes it.

However given the price I would look at a gas generator.
Battery backup is about the least cost effective solution. When I had my panels installed, they quoted me $5k for the battery backup. IIRC, the estimate was that it could provide up to 5 hrs of power. My NG generator cost me $3500 and offers an indefinite power supply. Maybe it makes more sense if you have never experienced a long-term power outage AND you live where you don’t get credit for the excess power your solar feeds into the grid. Neither of those is true for me.
Do you use propane, or is it hooked up to the natural gas utility?

NG

qbrozen · August 2020

snakeweasel said:

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:
Thinking of power supplies, I've considered recommending son and DIL check into backup power for their new home. I've seen stories about larger batteries as backups rather than natural gas or gasoline powered generators.

Does anyone have any experience with either one? I've also considered buying them a fairly large backup power supply for their computers since they both are heavy uses and work from home much of the time.
We have a neighbor who has a Tesla powerwall and solar panels. The solar panels run his home during the day and excess power charges the powerwall and the powerwall powers the house at night. Not sure what it cost him but he is all but off the grid. He likes it.

However given the price I would look at a gas generator.
Battery backup is about the least cost effective solution. When I had my panels installed, they quoted me $5k for the battery backup. IIRC, the estimate was that it could provide up to 5 hrs of power. My NG generator cost me $3500 and offers an indefinite power supply. Maybe it makes more sense if you have never experienced a long-term power outage AND you live where you don’t get credit for the excess power your solar feeds into the grid. Neither of those is true for me.
In this situation the batteries are not a backup so to speak, they store any excess power for the night or times when there is not enough light to produce enough all the power needs of the house.

Once the powerwall is fully charged any excess power generated gets sent onto the grid for credit.

If they get credit, than what is the point? If you pull energy from the batteries or from the grid, it is costing you the same. But they’ve added the expense of the batteries, so it is ultimately far more expensive.

ronsteve · August 2020

abacomike said:
To get info on hurricanes and storms, I try to tune in to local weather reports on local TV channels. They report "facts" and "data" only!

Occasionally I tune to the Weather Channel for updates - and I get inundated with sensationalism and Shakespearean Drama. Sure they provide weather data and storm positioning, but they over dramatize the information.

As an example, the hurricane weakened to a tropical storm and they reported that fact as the NWS updated info, but then they warn of impending strengthening and to stay tuned for up-to-the-minute reports from meteorologists on Ft. Lauderdale Beach, Vero Beach, Daytona Beach, etc. "...I am very concerned about this storm causing extensive damage and power outages..." says the chief hurricane specialist.

I realize that they are providing a service to the public during these storm developments but there's a troubling "slant" in my opinion when compared to local weather reporting which tends to be less dramatic and less ominous.

This is just my opinion.😜🤪🤓

Trusted, LOCAL sources are where it's at! If you're in the big city, your local media will tell you whether you need to be scared or not. (TWC wants the rest of the nation to believe there will be havoc in the biggest city possible.) If you're in a smaller city, your local media won't forget about you!

tjc78 · August 2020

imidazol97 said:
TV can be realistic at times. TV Land channel carries Golden Girls on Sunday for hours.
Today Golden Girls ran an episode with a hurricane in Miami. The shots of the house had gusting
winds whipping the trees, e.g..

Fun fact, that house is actually in CA.

jipster · August 2020

roadburner said:
Here's the actual car I'm looking at.

Small world. That's the dealership my nephew works at. They had a 2018/19 Nissan Altima I test drove before I bought my Accord. Didn't like the way the Altima handled. Very entertaining walking around seeing the sticker prices of some of those cars. Thought about asking for a test.drive. Thought I may enjoy the car too much. ;-)

kyfdx · August 2020

qbrozen said:

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:
Thinking of power supplies, I've considered recommending son and DIL check into backup power for their new home. I've seen stories about larger batteries as backups rather than natural gas or gasoline powered generators.

Does anyone have any experience with either one? I've also considered buying them a fairly large backup power supply for their computers since they both are heavy uses and work from home much of the time.
We have a neighbor who has a Tesla powerwall and solar panels. The solar panels run his home during the day and excess power charges the powerwall and the powerwall powers the house at night. Not sure what it cost him but he is all but off the grid. He likes it.

However given the price I would look at a gas generator.
Battery backup is about the least cost effective solution. When I had my panels installed, they quoted me $5k for the battery backup. IIRC, the estimate was that it could provide up to 5 hrs of power. My NG generator cost me $3500 and offers an indefinite power supply. Maybe it makes more sense if you have never experienced a long-term power outage AND you live where you don’t get credit for the excess power your solar feeds into the grid. Neither of those is true for me.
Do you use propane, or is it hooked up to the natural gas utility?
NG

I've considered doing this. Unfortunately, my natural gas line and electric are on opposite sides of the house.

imidazol97 · August 2020

tjc78 said:

imidazol97 said:
TV can be realistic at times. TV Land channel carries Golden Girls on Sunday for hours.
Today Golden Girls ran an episode with a hurricane in Miami. The shots of the house had gusting
winds whipping the trees, e.g..
Fun fact, that house is actually in CA.

Interesting: I looked it up to see if there were pictures. I always wondered why
there weren't more palm trees in the scenes showing the Miami house...

Wow. So the episode that showed the gusting winds with hurricanelike gusting
was really coincidence that they had a hurricane in CA and in FL at the same time.

I think this is a current picture. One of the clips said the house is for sale as of July 2020.

Article with interior pictures of house and of set.

jmonroe1 · August 2020

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:
Thinking of power supplies, I've considered recommending son and DIL check into backup power for their new home. I've seen stories about larger batteries as backups rather than natural gas or gasoline powered generators.

Does anyone have any experience with either one? I've also considered buying them a fairly large backup power supply for their computers since they both are heavy uses and work from home much of the time.
We have a neighbor who has a Tesla powerwall and solar panels. The solar panels run his home during the day and excess power charges the powerwall and the powerwall powers the house at night. Not sure what it cost him but he is all but off the grid. He likes it.

However given the price I would look at a gas generator.
Battery backup is about the least cost effective solution. When I had my panels installed, they quoted me $5k for the battery backup. IIRC, the estimate was that it could provide up to 5 hrs of power. My NG generator cost me $3500 and offers an indefinite power supply. Maybe it makes more sense if you have never experienced a long-term power outage AND you live where you don’t get credit for the excess power your solar feeds into the grid. Neither of those is true for me.
Do you use propane, or is it hooked up to the natural gas utility?
NG
I've considered doing this. Unfortunately, my natural gas line and electric are on opposite sides of the house.

Don’t they sell picks and shovels where you live?

jmonroe

abacomike · August 2020

imidazol97 said:

tjc78 said:

imidazol97 said:
TV can be realistic at times. TV Land channel carries Golden Girls on Sunday for hours.
Today Golden Girls ran an episode with a hurricane in Miami. The shots of the house had gusting
winds whipping the trees, e.g..
Fun fact, that house is actually in CA.
Interesting: I looked it up to see if there were pictures. I always wondered why
there weren't more palm trees in the scenes showing the Miami house...

Wow. So the episode that showed the gusting winds with hurricanelike gusting
was really coincidence that they had a hurricane in CA and in FL at the same time.

I think this is a current picture. One of the clips said the house is for sale as of July 2020.

Article with interior pictures of house and of set.

See that tall palm tree in the background? That is not a Florida palm tree - it is a California palm Tree. That's the give-away or telltale sign of a California neighborhood.

abacomike · August 2020

We are still getting thunderstorms from feeder bands associated with Isaias. Under a severe thunderstorm warning right now. And here I thought it was all over. "...it ain't over til it's over!"😜🤪🤓

imidazol97 · August 2020

Any damage around your area?

Now for the folks in SC and NC...

stickguy · August 2020

NJ gets it tomorrow.

ab348 · August 2020

A little wind, a little rain, nothing to see here, move along please... :laughing:

stickguy · August 2020

We now got bumped up to a warning, and possible 5+ inches of rain. My pool, really doesn’t need that. If power goes out, I’m in a world of hurt.

imidazol97 · August 2020

Another panic misguided?

The only worrisome thing I read in weather.com's discussion today is that the hurricane
season appears to be heading to above average in number.

abacomike · August 2020

imidazol97 said:
Any damage around your area?

Now for the folks in SC and NC...

Not that I can see - but remember I have not ventured out yet in my car. I saw on the news that there were some trees down but nothing significant.

omarman · August 2020

Well it looks like our worst fears over this past weekend may finally be over because the National Weather Service has schooled TV meteorologists with the correct pronunciation of Isaias. According to the NWS it's really not Isaiah modified with an "s."

https://twitter.com/IreneSans/status/1287271727517638656

I do feel better thanks. But what about the weather?

isellhondas · August 2020

graphicguy said:
Picked up this little audio gem last night for $180. 100W X 2 into 8 ohms full bandwidth. Bluetooth, USB, turntable connections, etc. All loaded up and made by a highly regarded English audio company.

As long as it wasn't from a highly regarded English AUTO company! Wait....there is no such thing! Carry on!

abacomike · August 2020

Ahhhh, the sun is finally peaking through some of the thick clouds. Thunderstorms just passed through and now it's back to sun, heat and humidity instead of just heat and humidity. Living down here in "Hurricane Alley" is traumatic in and of itself every July, August, September, October and sometimes November. But the rest of the year is really delightful.

I spoke with my grandson yesterday and he said it was 110 degrees F in the shade out in Palm Desert. They've been having a heatwave with daytime temps in the 110's. But if I remember correctly, I didn't mind the 100+ temps because it was never really humid out there - just like living in an oven with no moisture. As I've always said, San Diego has the best climate of any place I've lived and I've lived in a lot of cities and states in my lifetime (New York, Chicago and suburbs, San Diego, Miami Beach, Coconut Creek, Los Angeles, Palm Desert and the Pennsylvania Poconos). But living in California - San Diego specifically - is not an economical place to live. The taxes are horrendous and cost of living is 30% higher than where I live now.

fintail · August 2020

I visited that location several years ago, when the paint and foliage more closely resembled how the house is portrayed on TV:

Amusing that the healthy 7 figure price of the place isn't much different from what it might cost in a better area of the Seattle metro.

imidazol97 said:

Wow. So the episode that showed the gusting winds with hurricanelike gusting
was really coincidence that they had a hurricane in CA and in FL at the same time.

I think this is a current picture. One of the clips said the house is for sale as of July 2020.

Article with interior pictures of house and of set.

dino001 · August 2020

So my Pioneer Receiver is officially dead (to be precise it's the DSP chip that's dead) so I pulled the trigger in 2020 Denon 3700H. It's weird - market is usually flush with these things, but when you go to various websites there is a lot of "out of stock" and as a result not whole lot of discounting for last year or two-year old relevant models (I usually don't mind getting something like open box or clearance model). So if I'm buying full sticker, I may as well get the newest model (it's got a few small tweaks over last year). It also looks it is just about to be released by Denon (they started with highest priced models first, which I think makes sense from market capture point of view), now they're going "mid-high", which this one is. Amazon promises end of this week, other retailers put either out of stock or have 2+ weeks waiting backorder on it. Will see if Amazon was too optimistic or plain deceitful.

I'm also getting new ELAC Dolby Atmos-compatible speakers on top of my floor column speakers for the ceiling bounce effect (in lieu of ceiling mounted speakers), will see if that works as promised.

I'm still bummed by my Pioneer's too short life. Five years was not enough for this price range. Also, its amplifier works, it's just the chip that went bad, but it makes no sense to try to repair it, considering they're out of those chips anyway.

omarman · August 2020

Wow. Even an extended warranty would have only been about 3 years or so? Hope the new Denon 3700H arrives as promised. Lately I've been skeptical at first but then very happy with Amazon deliveries.

stickguy · August 2020

Hey, turns out Wes has a channel, and even made a video about a botched DIY brake repair!

Odd, that doesn’t look like Alaska. But I bet he wishes he had that garage. I want the tractor.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrr5rZj9Sws

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