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cdnpinhead · August 2020

The cabin at Forest Lakes where I've been hiding from the plague since March is at 7500 feet elevation. We've had the cabin for seven years now, and if the power/heat goes out in Dec-Mar it's a really big deal. Usually it comes back on within a few hours, but sometimes it's a day or so, and when it's 12 degrees for the daily high, that's a very big deal.

Several of the people around me up here have gen sets, and I'm thinking seriously about putting one in. Generac makes a decent product, but you need to find the right "guy" to install it properly. We don't have natural gas up here, but propane works fine, so long as you have a big enough tank.

sb55 · August 2020

I have a Generac generator with an automatic transfer switch. Ours runs on propane and is 10 years old. We have it set to just run the essentials, so the water pump, furnace, fridge and some key outlets. Water and furnace are really key for us. I've never lived where there is "city" water, and when you can't flush or wash, that's the worst!

driver100 · August 2020

Thanks for the comments about generators, really helpful. It is expensive, but one of lifes pleasures, to know you can eat, have some entertainment, not have all your food go bad, and not have to freeze if your electricity goes off.......and have some coffee too!

kyfdx · August 2020

My gas/electric bill was $116 for July 7th-Aug 5th.

Humid and hot..

roadburner · August 2020

kyfdx said:
My gas/electric bill was $116 for July 7th-Aug 5th.

Humid and hot..

I pay a $125-$150 electric bill every month; that covers everything except for water- which I sometimes need to order if we don’t get enough rain.
When our house was built in 1974 there were no nearby homes or businesses and our power line runs almost directly to a substation. As long as the line to our house is up we usually don’t lose power for more than 6-8 hours tops.

ab348 · August 2020

My monthly electric bill is about $100Cdn this time of year, closer to $150/mo in the dark winter months. Water is about $50/mo., NG not all that much, maybe $40mo on average.

graphicguy · August 2020

kyfdx said:
My gas/electric bill was $116 for July 7th-Aug 5th.

Humid and hot..

Mine was around that, too. Matter of fact, since I put in the new Goodman A/C compressor, my bill went from $180 to $115-$120 (during the peak summer heat) per month.

Not a HUGE savings as some get with solar panels, but nothing to sneeze at, either.

kyfdx · August 2020

graphicguy said:

kyfdx said:
My gas/electric bill was $116 for July 7th-Aug 5th.

Humid and hot..
Mine was around that, too. Matter of fact, since I put in the new Goodman A/C compressor, my bill went from $180 to $115-$120 (during the peak summer heat) per month.

Not a HUGE savings as some get with solar panels, but nothing to sneeze at, either.

Our house has always been pretty efficient. Even new in 1998, the gas furnace was a 94+ efficiency model.

When we put in the new system (2017?), the bills went down a little.. but, the more efficient A/C and variable speed blower on the new 98+ gas furnace help us keep a more even temperature, and more comfortable.

Water is about $90/quarterly (more in the summer when I use the sprinklers).
Sanitation is around $40/mo. Seems like a lot, but I'd hate to have to get rid of that stuff on my own.

Michaell · August 2020

NG and electricity come from the same provider - was $62 last month, but averaging just under $100/mo for 2020.

I'm also averaging about $30-35/mo for the solar provider (we lease the equipment).

Water was $130 last month, but the sprinklers are set to run 3 times a week, twice a day. About $85/mo in the winter (we have some of the most expensive water rates in the state, I'm told).

kyfdx · August 2020

nyccarguy said:
I’ll echo @qbrozen’s comments about solar. We are on our 3rd year with it. Although we went a different route and leased our solar panels for 20 years from Tesla (formerly Solar City). It costs us (year 3) $109/month to lease the panels plus we still have to pay the Eversource. Last month’s bill was $148 (plus $109) and that was with running the A/C 24/7 for the entire month. April, May, & June my bill from Eversource was less than $10 (plus the $109). Our cost to lease the solar panels goes up 2.9% per year.

This storm caught Eversource off guard. It’s going to cost them a lot of money to clean up. The money doesn’t come out of their pocket, they’ll request a rate increase (of a lot more than 2.9%) and will get it.

What happens at the end of 20 years? Is there a balloon payment, or final bill? Or, re-lease?

What about if you sell the property?

ab348 · August 2020

My water bill here is pretty consistent, about $150/$160 per quarter, so let''s say $50/mo. But probably only 1/3 of that is for actual water. The rest is for sewage and treatment thereof which through some clever sleight of hand the city managed to make the responsibility of the water utility a few years ago, without any commensurate reduction on their tax bills. They even shifted the responsibility for storm sewers to them, and they then came up with a cockamamie rate schedule that is based on their estimate of the size of hard surfaces (roofs, asphalt driveways, etc) on your property. Even areas without storm sewers in the ground pay this, supposedly for ditch and culvert maintenance. It has been hugely controversial.

Municipal taxes cover police, fire, garbage pickup, snow removal, street maintenance, and all the wasteful projects they like to do. The rate is $1.25 per $100 of property assessment. I pay about $200/month and don't feel like I get good value for that.

28firefighter · August 2020

With AC running in the evenings on warmer days this summer (unlike most, I enjoy the house around 68 degrees at night), we're averaging about $75/month for electricity. Rest of the year is typically $50/$60 a month. Gas averages about $25/month pretty consistently year round even with the heat running.

andres3 · August 2020

What I need to find is some old geezer that chose to buy a B8.5 S4 in Misano Red with the Magma Red/Black Nappa Leather interior combo, with a DSG, rear sports differential, B&O audio, with super low miles (hence the old geezer), and never crashed or crashed into, and that's all I'm asking!

Is that really too much to ask?

Another great thing about that model is that if 4.9 zero to 60's are not good enough for you, the drive train is stout enough to reliably handle stage 2 upgrades well north of 400 HP.

nyccarguy · August 2020

kyfdx said:

nyccarguy said:
I’ll echo @qbrozen’s comments about solar. We are on our 3rd year with it. Although we went a different route and leased our solar panels for 20 years from Tesla (formerly Solar City). It costs us (year 3) $109/month to lease the panels plus we still have to pay the Eversource. Last month’s bill was $148 (plus $109) and that was with running the A/C 24/7 for the entire month. April, May, & June my bill from Eversource was less than $10 (plus the $109). Our cost to lease the solar panels goes up 2.9% per year.

This storm caught Eversource off guard. It’s going to cost them a lot of money to clean up. The money doesn’t come out of their pocket, they’ll request a rate increase (of a lot more than 2.9%) and will get it.
What happens at the end of 20 years? Is there a balloon payment, or final bill? Or, re-lease?

What about if you sell the property?

No Balloon Payment. No Final Bill. I could re-lease or have them put whatever newer technology they have available or just have them come and remove the solar panels.

If I sell my house, I have to get the people whom I sell to on board. Worst case scenario is I'd have to pay $500 or $600 to have them removed/disconnected. I don't plan on selling anytime soon. While we could definitely use the 4th bedroom & could get good money for our house (due to the mass exodus from NYC), it will cost me significantly more for that extra bedroom, then I'd have to start renovating to our taste.

tjc78 · August 2020

How are your utlity bills so low? My electric bill was $266 with the AC on all month with at least 8-10 days we weren't home and it was on 78. This is for a 4 bedroom / 2 bath ranch home.

My water runs $50 at least. Gas is $40 or so in non-heating months.

graphicguy · August 2020

Boy...I feel lucky. My HVAC bill is roughly $120/mo. My water, trash, street upkeep is around $45/mo. (Low side). And, that’s even with my using a sprinkler on the lawn.

My HOA was $79/mo. But, given I live on a cul-de-sac and the only real neighborhood common area that needs maintenance is two stone walls as you enter the cup-de-sac. We dissolved the HOA last year and are maintaining the walls ourselves. Actually, we all get together once/year to repair and/or replace the walls. It’s sort of a block party. We close down the street. Do an hour or two of work, and then have a street wide BBQ. We keep it in better shape than former HOA did (about ½ of my street has turned over the last 5 years). Former HOA pres is now gone. We do the upkeep by committee, do a better job, and save money in the process.

bwia · August 2020

Welcome to the 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime electric gasoline performance hybrid. It is the fastest Toyota yet. It delivers 302 hp and 0 - 60 mph in 5.7 seconds yet cost about $32,500 after rebates. Depending on your daily driving you may have little use for gasoline as the electric engine delivers up to 42 miles on pure electric. In my opinion, this is what Detroit's Big Three should be producing in both sedan and SUV formats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNs4-_knDpU

fintail · August 2020

Gotta love the cheap power here, it might marginally compensate for other hilariously expensive cost of living factors.

My electricity bill is under $25 in the summer, a little higher in the winter, and I use the AC often, as I too like it cool. No gas, all electric. WSG is around $65-75/month.

28firefighter said:
With AC running in the evenings on warmer days this summer (unlike most, I enjoy the house around 68 degrees at night), we're averaging about $75/month for electricity. Rest of the year is typically $50/$60 a month. Gas averages about $25/month pretty consistently year round even with the heat running.

stickguy · August 2020

tjc78 said:
How are your utlity bills so low? My electric bill was $266 with the AC on all month with at least 8-10 days we weren't home and it was on 78. This is for a 4 bedroom / 2 bath ranch home.

My water runs $50 at least. Gas is $40 or so in non-heating months.

Welcome to jersey! I’m even higher. Pool pump runs it up.

stickguy · August 2020

I wouldn’t mind that RAV. would be perfect for us.

28firefighter · August 2020

tjc78 said:
How are your utlity bills so low? My electric bill was $266 with the AC on all month with at least 8-10 days we weren't home and it was on 78. This is for a 4 bedroom / 2 bath ranch home.

My water runs $50 at least. Gas is $40 or so in non-heating months.

As @fintail mentioned - our electricity is mostly hydro, so very cheap.

fintail · August 2020

My mom lives in a small town a couple hours outside of the rat race with a small local PUD - apparently it had some financial issues, and now has kind of a "service fee" on top of any usage, and their rates aren't so low. She's lucky to get in for under $100/month even in the summer, as a good percentage of it is that fee.

explorerx4 · August 2020

Averaging 1500-1600 for electricity, 1200 for NG, 300 for water and 500 for trash collection annually.
I run 2 1/2 fridges and keep the basement heated/cooled all year long although we don't us it much.
Keep the dehumidifier running all year, but it doesn't run in the winter.
House is at 72 in the summer/70 in winter(upstairs about 64).

qbrozen · August 2020

bwia said:
It is the fastest Toyota yet.

Where the heck was this printed? That is obviously flat-out wrong.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:
We had an electrician here yesterday....2 indoor outlets stopped working and 2 outdoor ones have never worked....we have been in the house 12 years and it is 14 years old.
We asked about a generator. He said there are two types, a basic to run the furnace, fridge, TV, lights and much more expensive one that would run the whole house.
I think we would opt for the basic model. He installs Generac.
Any idea how much these should cost to install? Is it worth it?
I think about this from time to time as well. When I had the new electrical service put in a few years ago they asked me if I wanted them to install a transfer panel at the same time. Not understanding what it was I said no. Now I wish I had. I think that if you have natural gas service (I do) one makes a lot of sense. You don't need to concern yourself with fuel for it, it runs once a week (or month, not sure) for a short time just to keep itself in good operating order, and the circuitry can be configured to run the important things without intervention from the homeowners.
We have natural gas and our thinking is the same. It would be a big inconvenience to lose all your refrigerated/frozen foods, and to freeze if the temperature is really cold. We could manage without, but, what a nice thing to have if the power goes out!
I thought you went to Florida when the weather went upside down. As for losing fridge and freezer items, you can replace dozens of those failures for what you’d pay for a backup power system. We don’t lose power very often and when we do it’s never been a problem in my hood. So, it’s going to have to be a cold day in Hawaii before I’d think twice about a backup power system.

jmonroe
I doubt if we will be going to Florida this winter. But, actually being in Florida could be more of a reason to buy a generator....if the power was off for days things in the fridge/freezer could could spoil and go really bad. The power did go off for 4 days about 5 years ago......up until then I came home around New Years....but now Mrs D comes back....won't get me coming back. We had to sleep in jackets, and had to go to a restaurant for dinner and a coffee (I was ready to pay $20 for a coffee)....one more night and I would have tried to find a hotel...I couldn't wait another day.
You don't want one because the moths will fly out of your wallet.

You’re better off not traveling until this mess settles down. Restrictions are crazy. My BIL’s mother just died and he can’t come from Florida for the funeral because of the quarantine restrictions. I offered to pick him up in Hartford and drive him into the state through MA which doesn’t require a 14 day quarantine but I think he’s too fearful of getting sick himself to go anywhere.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

nyccarguy said:

stickguy said:
what I really need is back up power to our sump pump. That is where we will get killed if the extended outage coincides with a rain event.

@stickguy - battery backups are only good for so long. During and extended outage, your water pressure remains constant.

In the farming game everything relies on proper drainage. The house and even the fields are gravity drained. No pumps required.

tjc78 · August 2020

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:
How are your utlity bills so low? My electric bill was $266 with the AC on all month with at least 8-10 days we weren't home and it was on 78. This is for a 4 bedroom / 2 bath ranch home.

My water runs $50 at least. Gas is $40 or so in non-heating months.
Welcome to jersey! I’m even higher. Pool pump runs it up.

Oh I'm sure. At the shore we paid $160 last month, haven't seen the bill for this month yet.

The fact that I have two fridges at home (one is ancient) and two at the shore along with a small wine cooler doesn't help things.

Michaell · August 2020

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:
How are your utlity bills so low? My electric bill was $266 with the AC on all month with at least 8-10 days we weren't home and it was on 78. This is for a 4 bedroom / 2 bath ranch home.

My water runs $50 at least. Gas is $40 or so in non-heating months.
Welcome to jersey! I’m even higher. Pool pump runs it up.
Oh I'm sure. At the shore we paid $160 last month, havne't seen the bill for this month yet.

The fact that I have two fridges at home (one is ancient) and two at the shore along with a small wine cooler doesn't help things.

Ice has to be cheaper than that, other than the hassle of having to refill your cooler all the time.

bwia · August 2020

qbrozen said:

bwia said:
It is the fastest Toyota yet.
Where the heck was this printed? That is obviously flat-out wrong.

Actually, it is the Toyota (non-Lexus) brand fastest passenger vehicle only second to the Supra.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

andres3 said:
What I need to find is some old geezer that chose to buy a B8.5 S4 in Misano Red with the Magma Red/Black Nappa Leather interior combo, with a DSG, rear sports differential, B&O audio, with super low miles (hence the old geezer), and never crashed or crashed into, and that's all I'm asking!

Is that really too much to ask?

Another great thing about that model is that if 4.9 zero to 60's are not good enough for you, the drive train is stout enough to reliably handle stage 2 upgrades well north of 400 HP.

You want an old geezer milage but he’s got to drive with NASCAR pro skills so he doesn’t scratch it up? I’m sure you‘ll have an easier time finding a unicorn first. I have those same unrealistic needs too which is why I stick with hoopties. A real desirable car like that commands a sky high price.

venture · August 2020

I forgot to post this sign on the wall in the salesman's office when I bought the Legacy. Keep yer trap shut!

sda · August 2020

venture said:
I forgot to post this sign on the wall in the salesman's office when I bought the Legacy. Keep yer trap shut!

Not cool when you are giving sensitive info about yourself and finances.

venture · August 2020

sda said:

venture said:
I forgot to post this sign on the wall in the salesman's office when I bought the Legacy. Keep yer trap shut!

Not cool when you are giving sensitive info about yourself and finances.

They're weaselbastards - like they all are.

driver100 · August 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:
We had an electrician here yesterday....2 indoor outlets stopped working and 2 outdoor ones have never worked....we have been in the house 12 years and it is 14 years old.
We asked about a generator. He said there are two types, a basic to run the furnace, fridge, TV, lights and much more expensive one that would run the whole house.
I think we would opt for the basic model. He installs Generac.
Any idea how much these should cost to install? Is it worth it?
I think about this from time to time as well. When I had the new electrical service put in a few years ago they asked me if I wanted them to install a transfer panel at the same time. Not understanding what it was I said no. Now I wish I had. I think that if you have natural gas service (I do) one makes a lot of sense. You don't need to concern yourself with fuel for it, it runs once a week (or month, not sure) for a short time just to keep itself in good operating order, and the circuitry can be configured to run the important things without intervention from the homeowners.
We have natural gas and our thinking is the same. It would be a big inconvenience to lose all your refrigerated/frozen foods, and to freeze if the temperature is really cold. We could manage without, but, what a nice thing to have if the power goes out!
I thought you went to Florida when the weather went upside down. As for losing fridge and freezer items, you can replace dozens of those failures for what you’d pay for a backup power system. We don’t lose power very often and when we do it’s never been a problem in my hood. So, it’s going to have to be a cold day in Hawaii before I’d think twice about a backup power system.

jmonroe
I doubt if we will be going to Florida this winter. But, actually being in Florida could be more of a reason to buy a generator....if the power was off for days things in the fridge/freezer could could spoil and go really bad. The power did go off for 4 days about 5 years ago......up until then I came home around New Years....but now Mrs D comes back....won't get me coming back. We had to sleep in jackets, and had to go to a restaurant for dinner and a coffee (I was ready to pay $20 for a coffee)....one more night and I would have tried to find a hotel...I couldn't wait another day.
You don't want one because the moths will fly out of your wallet.
You’re better off not traveling until this mess settles down. Restrictions are crazy. My BIL’s mother just died and he can’t come from Florida for the funeral because of the quarantine restrictions. I offered to pick him up in Hartford and drive him into the state through MA which doesn’t require a 14 day quarantine but I think he’s too fearful of getting sick himself to go anywhere.

Definitely not going to Florida until things are under control. and I mean 99.8% good. I don't want to be here in the winter, but still better than trying to avoid the virus. Plus we have our medical paid, and lots of room in the hospitals these days. And, we would have to isolate for 14 days when we got back. If this is under control would still like to go in February or even March. The C250 may have to go 2 years between oil changes, and the STABIL will have to stay good for 2 years too.

qbrozen · August 2020

bwia said:

qbrozen said:

bwia said:
It is the fastest Toyota yet.
Where the heck was this printed? That is obviously flat-out wrong.
Actually, it is the Toyota (non-Lexus) brand fastest passenger vehicle only second to the Supra.

And, obviously, that alone makes the statement wrong. 2nd place is 2nd place and not "the fastest."

driver100 · August 2020

venture said:
I forgot to post this sign on the wall in the salesman's office when I bought the Legacy. Keep yer trap shut!

So they admit they spy on their potential customers when they leave you alone in the office.

driver100 · August 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

andres3 said:
What I need to find is some old geezer that chose to buy a B8.5 S4 in Misano Red with the Magma Red/Black Nappa Leather interior combo, with a DSG, rear sports differential, B&O audio, with super low miles (hence the old geezer), and never crashed or crashed into, and that's all I'm asking!

Is that really too much to ask?

Another great thing about that model is that if 4.9 zero to 60's are not good enough for you, the drive train is stout enough to reliably handle stage 2 upgrades well north of 400 HP.
You want an old geezer milage but he’s got to drive with NASCAR pro skills so he doesn’t scratch it up? I’m sure you‘ll have an easier time finding a unicorn first. I have those same unrealistic needs too which is why I stick with hoopties. A real desirable car like that commands a sky high price.

This was OPI....Our Personal Opinion, but when we were looking for a 3 year old car for Florida it was between a BMW 328 and a Mercedes C 250. It was just our thinking....may be very wrong, there was more of a chance the MB was driven more carefully by a more mature person, and the BMW COULD have been driven by a younger more aggressive individual. Just our informal perceptions.
An old guy with a carefully driven S4............sounds like a stretch.

graphicguy · August 2020

Another rabbit hole we can go down.......

https://youtu.be/jdPi81V1Z24

stickguy · August 2020

I spend way too much time already on YouTube car videos. Can blow a whole day, and never leave Kansas!

qbrozen · August 2020

graphicguy said:
Another rabbit hole we can go down.......

https://youtu.be/jdPi81V1Z24

I can't. I eventually had to turn her off. She just comes off so unnatural. Like half of her face and her neck don't move.

kyfdx · August 2020

driver100 said:

venture said:
I forgot to post this sign on the wall in the salesman's office when I bought the Legacy. Keep yer trap shut!

So they admit they spy on their potential customers when they leave you alone in the office.

If it is a salesperson's office, and not the sales manager or F&I guy, I see no problem, as long as they disclose it.

"But, Joe Salesguy said they would give me free floor mats".

"Jimmy, let's go to the tape."

Michaell · August 2020

kyfdx said:

driver100 said:

venture said:
I forgot to post this sign on the wall in the salesman's office when I bought the Legacy. Keep yer trap shut!

So they admit they spy on their potential customers when they leave you alone in the office.
If it is a salesperson's office, and not the sales manager or F&I guy, I see no problem, as long as they disclose it.

"But, Joe Salesguy said they would give me free floor mats".

"Jimmy, let's go to the tape."

Unless Joe mumbles a lot.... :laughing:

stickguy · August 2020

I have seen that in the F&I office.

tjc78 · August 2020

Michaell said:

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:
How are your utlity bills so low? My electric bill was $266 with the AC on all month with at least 8-10 days we weren't home and it was on 78. This is for a 4 bedroom / 2 bath ranch home.

My water runs $50 at least. Gas is $40 or so in non-heating months.
Welcome to jersey! I’m even higher. Pool pump runs it up.
Oh I'm sure. At the shore we paid $160 last month, havne't seen the bill for this month yet.

The fact that I have two fridges at home (one is ancient) and two at the shore along with a small wine cooler doesn't help things.
Ice has to be cheaper than that, other than the hassle of having to refill your cooler all the time.

Funny you say that. At the shore we usually keep a few bags of ice in the shed freezer to use for the cooler when going to the beach.

We cook a lot so we like having the extra space. Plus ... you always need room for beer!

abacomike · August 2020

I applied the RainX cleaner and sealant to the windshield. It hasn't rained hard enough for me to determine if it solved the problem. This morning, we had light rain and the wipers did not chatter. But they chatter only in constant heavy rain. So I will have to wait for a heavy rain that I can drive in.

Mercedes left me a message that they have made a decision regarding my request for a windshield replacement but I have tried returning her call 6 times today with no response. I will wait another day before calling her again.

venture · August 2020

abacomike said:
I applied the RainX cleaner and sealant to the windshield. It hasn't rained hard enough for me to determine if it solved the problem. This morning, we had light rain and the wipers did not chatter. But they chatter only in constant heavy rain. So I will have to wait for a heavy rain that I can drive in.

Mercedes left me a message that they have made a decision regarding my request for a windshield replacement but I have tried returning her call 6 times today with no response. I will wait another day before calling her again.

When I used RainX it started working around 35 mph. Wipers not needed.

venture · August 2020

stickguy said:
I have seen that in the F&I office.

I'm not sure how I would feel if it was in F&I. It may creep me out. This same dealer did not have such a sign in there.

stickguy · August 2020

maybe it was a joke.

oldfarmer50 · August 2020

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:
We had an electrician here yesterday....2 indoor outlets stopped working and 2 outdoor ones have never worked....we have been in the house 12 years and it is 14 years old.
We asked about a generator. He said there are two types, a basic to run the furnace, fridge, TV, lights and much more expensive one that would run the whole house.
I think we would opt for the basic model. He installs Generac.
Any idea how much these should cost to install? Is it worth it?
I think about this from time to time as well. When I had the new electrical service put in a few years ago they asked me if I wanted them to install a transfer panel at the same time. Not understanding what it was I said no. Now I wish I had. I think that if you have natural gas service (I do) one makes a lot of sense. You don't need to concern yourself with fuel for it, it runs once a week (or month, not sure) for a short time just to keep itself in good operating order, and the circuitry can be configured to run the important things without intervention from the homeowners.
We have natural gas and our thinking is the same. It would be a big inconvenience to lose all your refrigerated/frozen foods, and to freeze if the temperature is really cold. We could manage without, but, what a nice thing to have if the power goes out!
I thought you went to Florida when the weather went upside down. As for losing fridge and freezer items, you can replace dozens of those failures for what you’d pay for a backup power system. We don’t lose power very often and when we do it’s never been a problem in my hood. So, it’s going to have to be a cold day in Hawaii before I’d think twice about a backup power system.

jmonroe
I doubt if we will be going to Florida this winter. But, actually being in Florida could be more of a reason to buy a generator....if the power was off for days things in the fridge/freezer could could spoil and go really bad. The power did go off for 4 days about 5 years ago......up until then I came home around New Years....but now Mrs D comes back....won't get me coming back. We had to sleep in jackets, and had to go to a restaurant for dinner and a coffee (I was ready to pay $20 for a coffee)....one more night and I would have tried to find a hotel...I couldn't wait another day.
You don't want one because the moths will fly out of your wallet.
You’re better off not traveling until this mess settles down. Restrictions are crazy. My BIL’s mother just died and he can’t come from Florida for the funeral because of the quarantine restrictions. I offered to pick him up in Hartford and drive him into the state through MA which doesn’t require a 14 day quarantine but I think he’s too fearful of getting sick himself to go anywhere.
Definitely not going to Florida until things are under control. and I mean 99.8% good. I don't want to be here in the winter, but still better than trying to avoid the virus. Plus we have our medical paid, and lots of room in the hospitals these days. And, we would have to isolate for 14 days when we got back. If this is under control would still like to go in February or even March. The C250 may have to go 2 years between oil changes, and the STABIL will have to stay good for 2 years too.

Or you could send me the keys and I’ll spend the winter there keeping your car exercised 💪 and ensuring that the beds don’t have bugs.🐜

explorerx4 · August 2020

@driver100,
I'm sure the squatters will enjoy having a long sty before the owner shows up.

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