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I have braided hoses too and also don’t turn the water off.
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Now they're into preaching the eco line with the plumber guy's son, a recent college grad, telling how all these wonderful things might work. It was like watching Martha Stewart show in the past where everything was done for her by aides and she did just enough to look like she was participating. Sort of the bob Villa method from the early TOH.
But I still like the idea of a holding tank held at a nominal temp for the input water to the rapidfire heater.
If nothing else, in the event of a power failure, it will give you many gallons of lukewarm water for bathing; better than the icy cold water from the boy scout like camping shower houses when I was camping with my son. LOL
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Last house, had a valve fail under the sink in our master bedroom upstairs. Sound of water woke me up. Probably five minutes from break, until I got the water shut off downstairs.
$10,000 damage.
That said, we only turn ours off, when leaving for vacation.
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I was outside mowing the lawn and noticed the foundation was wet although it hadn't rained.
Luckily, the water drained down from the shutoff into an unfinished part of the basement which I was able to dry out by running a fan for a few days.
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As I’ve said before a few times, Mrs. j ALWAYS shuts off the hot and cold water valves and bleeds off the pressure in the hoses after EVERY use of the washing machine and double checks to see that it’s done before going to bed. I’ve told her about what can happen if the hoses rupture so I’ve pretty much put the fear of the water gods in her. She has done this from day one in our first house that we lived in for almost 20 years. So, I’ll take credit for that.
Fast forward to when we bought our second house in January 1989. I saw that the shut-off valves were old and corroded and one valve had a leaking valve stem packing seal so that was the perfect time to replace them and I decided rather than install the multi-turn valve, I was going to install the lever operated 1/4 turn type valves. Got out my torch one night and got it done. Almost perfect timing too because Mrs. j came down to the basement to do a load of clothes since I told her the job should only take about a half hour barring any problems. She looks at the 1/4 turn valves and says, “what are those things”? I said, “those are the new shut-off valves and they’re ready to go”. She fires back, “and you think I’m going to learn how to use those contraptions”.😟 I said, “you’re going to like these and I showed her how to operate them”. She gives me one of those looks and says, “ALL those years you let me turn turn (as she’s goes through the valve turning motion) those valves in the old house when you could have installed those”? 😫😫 I swear, if we would have been upstairs I would have been doing laps around the dining room table.
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Finally, it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because the waitresses were well endowed and wore mini-skirts.
Ten years later, at age 50, the friends once again discussed where they should meet for lunch.
Finally it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because the waitresses were attractive. The food and service was good and the beer selection was excellent.
Ten years later, at age 60, the friends again discussed where they should meet for lunch.
Finally it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because there was plenty of parking, they could dine in peace and quiet with no loud music, and it was good value for money.
Ten years later, at age 70, the friends discussed where they should meet for lunch.
Finally it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because the restaurant was wheelchair accessible and had a toilet for the disabled.
Ten years later, at age 80, the friends discussed where they should meet for lunch.
Finally, it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because they had never been there before.
FWIW, I know you guys probably howl when you hear what we do about shutting down the washing machine every day but we’re used to doing it and we damn sure don’t forget to shut off the water when we’re going to be away for a few days or more and I bleed off the pressure in the supply lines via the laundry tub valves. Everybody can do that.
Believe it or not, for a few years when we lived in our first house, I even shut off the gas at the meter when we went on vacation which required re-lighting the pilot lights for the water heater and the furnace when we got home. I finally gave up on that because Mrs. j would say when we were driving home from the beach in the Summer (no A/C back then) and got close to home how good it would feel to take a nice hot shower. I had to tell her she’d have to wait for about an hour to do that. Needless to say she didn’t like that. So, I gave up that idea.
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Wasn't sure where your story was going, but it was pretty funny.
Another neighbor had a supply line to a toilet burst while they were out of town. -> flooded first floor and basement
I was lucky when my water heater blew. There was a drain hole under it that led to the French drain system.
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Cliff notes version:
We added onto the house for my mom and she asked for first floor laundry rather than the basement. So we did that as part of the renovation. I found an awesome deal at Home Depot so I bought a new set for upstairs (someone ordered two sets of floor models and I saved over 50% on the pair)
I decided to leave the old set in the basement until they die.
All a moot point now since both sets will go to the new owners.
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dryer worked great up there. Basically where they had it violated fire code so badly I am surprised the house never burned down. way too long a run, with a ton of bends and curves. When we had that cleaned it had enough lint in it to make a pillow. new pipe, goes straight up through the ceiling, makes a 90 in the attic, and straight out the side wall.
in theory we could have left a WD down there, but there was no need for it so the lines just got capped off.
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JMonroe1 started out posting shorter posts and was much funnier, now he is changing back into the original JM.
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Now that I got that out of the way, I did some scouting for the age of our ancient Maytag washing machine that we inherited from my Mother when we moved back from SC in 1997 after she died and my brothers wanted us to stay in her house until we found one. I found the receipt and she bought it on 10-21-89 for $541.66 including tax from a local mom and pop appliance store. Just as an aside this washer HAD to have the suds return feature which probably made it a more top of the line unit. There is a story about this feature but it would be a full size novel so I’m not going there. Mrs. j has never used the suds return feature so the pickup hose just sits on the laundry tub. As best as I know, the supply hoses have never been replaced. I know for sure we never replaced them. They are the old style black hoses not the new fangled braided type. I’m willing to bet they have lasted this long because they have never been been under full pressure all the time. I’m just doing a long term experiment to prove the value of using the water supply shut-off valves and bleeding off the pressure.
I saw where the question was asked about how long washing machine hoses last and their seems to be info that they should be replaced anywhere from 5 to 10 years. To me that is too much of a span to be meaningful. None of us would think very much of a car warranty that states you can expect anywhere from 50,000 to 100,000 miles of maintainace free life. However, it is recommended that they be replaced at some point. It’s therefore up to the owner to decide. While the braided hoses last longer they don’t last forever. Guess wrong and you lose. Because there is maintenance involved with them, I don’t like using them for the toilets and sinks. I do those the old fashioned way using the chrome plated soft copper lines. The way I look at it is, why do an installation that you know will require maintenance at some point? I just bite the bullet and do it once. Everyone can start laughing now.
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I bought a (early 1960's era) house in NH in 2015 that has a Vitodens 100 nat. gas boiler installed. I think it's great. 1648 s.f. house. I can't find the receipt from the former owner so I don't know what she paid. I did find the paperwork for removal of the underground oil tank tho: $2550. And I remember seeing the receipt for the removal of the old oil burner also, lotsa bucks IIRC.
Oh, & mine is not a combi unit--just for heating, not hot water. I guess they must make 2 different versions?
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Our washer had gone about 7 and the lower bearing was making noise. IT got replaced. Otherwise I would have bought new hoses.
Our replacement washer I purchased with the braided hoses.
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Having nothing to lose, I gave him a call. For an exact policy with the same limits, the premium was $769 for a 12 month policy. That’s a savings of over $700 a year compared to my existing policy. But I had to couple my auto policy with the condo policy. A 6 month premium with the same coverages was $95 less than I am currently paying GEICO. So tomorrow I will cancel my policies and start a new auto and condo policy with the Allstate agency up there near Daytona Beach. But I will make sure he sends me binders for both policies before I cancel the other policies.
Was definitely worth taking a few minutes to check out his agency.
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