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I recall when I visited the Stude museum, there was a Citroen DS cabrio on display - gotta mix it up a little. A-C-D and Gilmore are definitely worth the trip, and for something a little out of the ordinary, the Motorhome/RV "hall of fame"/museum in Elkhart was an interesting diversion, too.
For dinner our one night in South Bend we were planning to go to Carmela's, which sounds like a more casual Italian place that might be more our cup of tea. The Tippecanoe restaurant sounded maybe a little formal for us, but do you recommend it? We are also going to visit Macri's Italian Bakery for snacks on our way to the Gilmore.
A South Bend place that I hear people really talk about enjoying is Barnaby's, which apparently is a sit-down pizza place that's been there for decades. I've not been there though.
I did go to "Studebagels" once, up near Notre Dame, LOL.
I'd been without a Stude for about five years and wanted another. I'm not the remotest mechanic; in fact, I take it someplace for an oil change, so I thought one with a Chevy engine (Studes in '65 and '66 used the 283 V8 that had Power-Pack heads and were used in Canadian Pontiacs and trucks, I'm told--I'm sure they were what GM offered to sell Studebaker) would be better for me to get serviced. Ironically, I have had a couple not-too-major engine issues with it, LOL.
I put a cold-call out on the Studebaker Drivers' Club forum online, looking for a '65-66 Cruiser. I wanted a four-door as one would be cheaper to buy, and they also had thicker-gauge frames, confirmed by the Shop Manual. A fellow said he had a 25.7K mile one that he was thinking of selling at that year's International Meet in South Bend but didn't have it advertised yet. He had, also, a '63 Cruiser he drove daily but said this '66 was too nice to drive with any regularity. It was 30 miles south of Indianapolis. I had a good friend of mine, Stude guy, go look at it (he lived near Indy) and gave me a glowing review of its condition, so I bit. And I think I paid fairly. It's far from the most-collectible Stude, but it's by-far in the best original condition of any of the four Studebakers I've owned.
It had new-car paperwork in the glovebox. Between that, and what I could get from the Archives at the Studebaker National Museum, I saw that the original owners were born in 1904 and 1905 and traded in a '53 Studebaker for it in April '66, a month after production ended. The car was sold new in Grand Junction, Colorado. The guy I bought it from had bought it from a guy in FL who said it had been there thirty years. I don't know the rest of that story. I found the original owners' son in Springfield, MO, born 1934. I sent him a brief letter with photos of the car and a S.A.S.E. I heard nothing back.
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Ahh, those days when people felt compelled to buy local.
The "buy local" idea might be part of why imported cars were more embraced on the coasts, where there isn't much of a local auto industry.
My friend with the Super Hawk was into Studebakers when new (in fact, owned a new '60 Lark VIII Regal convertible) and told me once he would go to buy parts at the big warehouse on the south side of South Bend, when it was still run by Studebaker (through '72). He said he was buying parts there once after driving in from NE OH, and was behind an old local farmer in overalls who was buying parts to keep his Stude truck working. He talked to him for a little bit I guess. I can just picture the exchange.
Which makes me think of this for sale locally - if you're going to ask top dollar, please provide correct looking tires, those in the market for such a car are turned off by lack of attention to detail. I suspect seller spent some money and now feels entitled to some profit, good luck bud.
First, it's a 'President Speedster', not a 'Speedster Presidential', LOL.
The wheel opening moldings are from a later Hawk. The exhaust looks terrible and is missing the unique Stude tips. The normally-chromed backup lights are painted on this car.
The interior was a low-buck reproduction I'd wager. Now, I know diamond-tufted leather would be an expensive reupholstery job, but sheesh. At $3,253, Speedsters had door armrests, LOL.
Speedsters were a fairly-low production car (2,215 built), but it seems like a lot have been preserved and/or restored. The yellow and green, I can't stand, but there are nice gray and white and gray and pink ones out there.
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The size of this 1952 Studebaker seems significantly smaller than an equivalent Pontiac or Mercury of the era, which I assume meant that with the V-8 it was a pretty good performer for the time.
My 80+ year old Mom reminded me that her parents owned a post-World War II Studebaker, although I think it was more like a 1948-50 model. I'll try to ask her if she remembers the exact year of it, but she called it a "frontward-backward" car because the styling was somewhat similar front and back.
PS I wonder how old the tires on this car are, how long tires last in museum conditions—and how often they need to add air.
The museum released this video yesterday; apparently they had a "Cars and Coffee" meet there early Sat. morning, well-attended per the video and cars besides Studebakers there as well:
https://www.facebook.com/StudebakerMuseum/videos/486326792716018
Studebakers were never as wide as the competition, and in the Lark era were considered compact cars although they had interiors that were as roomy as earlier full-size Studebakers.
I think such is the advanced styling that came out in '47, as the '52's, the last model year for the basic body, to my eyes looked as contemporary as anything else '52 on the domestic market.
The Starlight coupes of '47-52, with the large wraparound rear window, were often said to look the same 'coming and going'.
If you saw a 1994 cornerstone at the museum, that's earlier than I remember, but I do seem to remember the South Bend 'History Museum' was there first and the Studebaker National Museum was added and opened in 2005. Prior to that, the Studebaker National Museum was located in the former Freeman-Spicer Studebaker/M-B dealership building on S. Main St., just before the railroad overpass in front of the Studebaker Corp. Administration Building. That building was neat in many ways, but was falling apart. Bricks were falling down onto the sidewalks there.
Much (but not all) of the museum's current collection was stored in a floor of the Administration Building, when Studebaker was still open. After that building was no longer used, a portion of it contained the collection and one weekend a month it was open for visits. In 1983 the former Freeman-Spicer building opened as the Studebaker National Museum.
Much funding for the current building was taken up by private donations but also by the State of Indiana. Many people wanted the former Administration Building to be the 'new' museum, but the city and state and others deemed it unfit for storage of the collection, so far as climate control, etc. Much funding offered by the state required it to be built in the current neighborhood, which was somewhat of a urban-renewal project. The neighborhood there looks nice now I think.
Don't see Studebakers like that around my area.
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For about ten years in the early 1900s Studebaker was making electric cars, gas cars, and horse-drawn vehicles of various kinds.
Our Ohio Region Studebaker Drivers' Club chapter has 'adopted' "Peg", above. I've "adopted" the 1928 Commander Roadster in the museum, in memory of my late friend and hometown Studebaker dealer, Ed Filer.
I'm not sure if I got a photo of your adopted 1928 Commander Roadster, but if by any chance I did please point it out. Or maybe you could post a pic of it? I loved how big the door was on this first one.
I would guess it is fairly well-known in the Studebaker/Avanti community that Alice Cooper owns a 1963 Avanti, white with turquiose interior. But here is an interesting tale of the back story of that car:
https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/classic-cars/a36289737/alice-cooper-1963-studebaker-avanti
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I say this all the time, but mirrors put out on the fenders on Avantis to me are a personal affront, LOL. Like or hate the car, the shape is smooth and trim level is simple and clean, and those just stick out like a sore thumb!
The Avanti's serial no. is only four digits after an "R", so it's not hard for someone to remember a specific Avanti that left an impression on them. There's a video of a guy who had a very nice, authentically restored '64 turquoise Avanti and when he bought it he recognized the serial no. as the car he was assigned in Studebaker's New York Zone Office. Seems hard to believe, but even I remember his car's serial no. as R-4892, LOL. In person it was striking.
Despite his shtick, Alice Cooper seems like a pretty together guy. In the past week or so I saw a pic of him on Facebook, not looking at the camera, but working a food kitchen somewhere. It was funny, kids in line looked that they had no idea who he was.
Ben, the '28 Commander Roadster I 'adopted' in my friend's name is a green car with white lettering on it. You don't need to show me the pic; I've seen it there before. My dealer friend's Dad started his Studebaker dealership in 1926 so their family garage probably did move one of those cars. How did you guys like that Italian restaurant? Curious to know if I should add it to my list or not! If you'd rather you can PM me here.
Some of the early '30's Studebakers are full Classic Car Club of America 'classics'.
For totally selfish purposes, I wish the entire museum was postwar Studebakers!
I did take a photo of the car you adopted. Looks great. If I may ask, did it cost a lot to adopt it? Kinda heartbreaking about this special hearse for kids....
Perhaps the designers of the 1950 Champion were channeling the designers of Peg. The same (or nearly so in the case of the ‘50) forward and backward never goes out of style.
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Thanks for the pictures. I'm enjoying the tour, since I'll never be able to visit there.
Your pictures are good quality.
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Ben, to answer your question on the cost of the 'adoption' of the '28 Commander Roadster, it's $500 a year. I retire in August, and I may move my adoption down to a less-expensive vehicle there. You can adopt vehicles on the museum's website anywhere from $100 to $1,000.
My two favorite vehicles in the museum are the red '64 and the turquoise Champ pickup. I guess it is true that like most people, I like most what I can actually remember seeing on the streets, LOL. The creamy white '53 hardtop is a beaut as well.
I think my favorite part of the museum was the basement....
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I didn't notice that in person. For some reason I'm thinking the above might be a photo-of-a-photo.
A good friend of mine loaned his very low-mileage yellow '73 Mustang convertible to them for their '70's display.
People are sometimes surprised that Studebaker built not only pickups up until the end of U.S. production ('64 model year), but also one-ton and considerably larger trucks, gas or diesel. That differentiates them from other independents IMHO.
Engine 460 cu in (7.5 L) Ford 385 V8
Transmission 3-speed C6 automatic
Wheelbase 120.4 in (3,058 mm)
Length 228.1 in (5,794 mm)
Width 79.8 in (2,027 mm)
Height 53.5 in (1,359 mm)
Curb weight 5,264 lb (2,388 kg)
Legroom: 1st row: 42.2 in
2nd row: 36.6 in
0-60 c. 11 seconds
c. 11 mpg
Inside it looked about the same size as today's Civic, although of course today's Civic is almost mid-sized.
In the same vein:
I also wonder how these compare:
My guess is that the Newport is roomier inside than an Eldo or Mark, only because it's not all hood. Of course, with the Eldo you get that completely flat floor.
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