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driver100 · June 2021

kyfdx said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:
I just checked rentals from Tampa airport....for one week in July most rentals are about $770. Not too long ago it would have been 1/3 to 1/2 of that. You can shave about $8 off of that if you get a Spark! Shave off almost $100 if you take a Versa.
For $770 you can get cars like Corollas, Cruze, Malibu.

They rate the rental companies on Expedia, Dollar and Thrifty get 60%, Hertz 70%, Alamo 90%, Avis 67% and Enterprise 87%.....I guess oldfarmer is doing a good job!
Sandy is in charge of Florida.
I knew that.....it is just the overall performance of the company....I think the satisfaction rate went up significantly since you joined.
I know that my satisfaction rate has gone up since I joined.

BTW, you listed Alamo as being the top of that list. They’re owned by Enterprise.
Didn't see National on the list. Also owned by Enterprise

They may not be represented at Tampa International.
I found Budget at 63% and a Pacifica at Alamo is $1200 for 1 week...it seems the family type vehicles cost a lot more. Surprised to see Souls going for $977!

roadburner · June 2021

For those who don’t follow the CCBA topic, my son is picking up a 2018 CPO 330i xDrive from my dealer on Monday. So yesterday I talked a while with the NCM at my dealer. He’s having big issues with getting new inventory. BMW Manufacturing in SC is cranking out SAVs for China and Europe. Cars that have been ordered are being rolled from 112 status back to 105 because parts(primarily chips) aren’t available. Wireless charging and Wi-Fi hotspots are being deleted due to that as well. He told me he likely won’t be getting any used M2 Comps because they are currently bringing auction prices higher than the original MSRP. 2021 Mach 1 Mustangs prices are similar.
A Supra 3.0 Premium is looking more and more like a nice alternative.

stickguy · June 2021

a few years back my BIL bought a Jag (XE? the midsized one, R model). he lives up in NYS (near Albany) and ended up finding one is southern Connecticut. Instead of making his wife drive him down, he rented a car 1-way. Gets to the local office, and they had assigned him (and I think claimed to have no other options) a Ram 2500 4 door. The longest version. He did not care that much at the time (but regretted it later, probably for the MPG). But apparently, the people at the location at the end were really ticked off because the beast took up 2 parking spots, and was nearly impossible to rent out.

bwia · June 2021

Is this real or pushing the envelope of incredulity? Apparently you can charge a Tesla by towing it at 70 mph to give it a charging boost at almost Supercharge levels to replenish the battery.
Obviously, such a practice is not encouraged and you not to try anything like this, but based on the evidence presented in this video experiment, it’s not the worst thing you could subject your electric vehicle to, although you will need something quite powerful to do the towing.
https://insideevs.com/news/514727/tesla-towing-70mph-fast-charging/

henryn · June 2021

bwia said:
Is this real or pushing the envelope of incredulity? Apparently you can charge a Tesla by towing it at 70 mph to give it a charging boost at almost Supercharge levels to replenish the battery.
Obviously, such a practice is not encouraged and you not to try anything like this, but based on the evidence presented in this video experiment, it’s not the worst thing you could subject your electric vehicle to, although you will need something quite powerful to do the towing.
https://insideevs.com/news/514727/tesla-towing-70mph-fast-charging/

Oh, I believe it. But I also think it's downright stupid.

My father was a mechanic, I grew up hanging around a garage, working on cars, and towing cars now and then. I became rather good at it at an early age. But we lived in the country, outside a small town in a rural area. No freeways. My father would never have even contemplated pulling a car down a busy freeway at 70 mph. And he would have kicked my ___ if I had ever attempted anything that hare brained.

Here we’ve got some half wit with more money than brains, pulling a $70k Tesla with a $100k Mercedes down the freeway in heavy traffic. Idiot.

fintail · June 2021

I was hoping the tow line would snap. Would be fun to see the insurance settlements from that - really makes me wonder how some acquire their means.

To be fair, that's a 20K MB on a good day, and maybe RIP its transmission if that's done regularly.

henryn said:

bwia said:
Is this real or pushing the envelope of incredulity? Apparently you can charge a Tesla by towing it at 70 mph to give it a charging boost at almost Supercharge levels to replenish the battery.
Obviously, such a practice is not encouraged and you not to try anything like this, but based on the evidence presented in this video experiment, it’s not the worst thing you could subject your electric vehicle to, although you will need something quite powerful to do the towing.
https://insideevs.com/news/514727/tesla-towing-70mph-fast-charging/
Oh, I believe it. But I also think it's downright stupid.

My father was a mechanic, I grew up hanging around a garage, working on cars, and towing cars now and then. I became rather good at it at an early age. But we lived in the country, outside a small town in a rural area. No freeways. My father would never have even contemplated pulling a car down a busy freeway at 70 mph. And he would have kicked my ___ if I had ever attempted anything that hare brained.

Here we’ve got some half wit with more money than brains, pulling a $70k Tesla with a $100k Mercedes down the freeway in heavy traffic. Idiot.

oldfarmer50 · June 2021

kyfdx said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:
I just checked rentals from Tampa airport....for one week in July most rentals are about $770. Not too long ago it would have been 1/3 to 1/2 of that. You can shave about $8 off of that if you get a Spark! Shave off almost $100 if you take a Versa.
For $770 you can get cars like Corollas, Cruze, Malibu.

They rate the rental companies on Expedia, Dollar and Thrifty get 60%, Hertz 70%, Alamo 90%, Avis 67% and Enterprise 87%.....I guess oldfarmer is doing a good job!
Sandy is in charge of Florida.
I knew that.....it is just the overall performance of the company....I think the satisfaction rate went up significantly since you joined.
I know that my satisfaction rate has gone up since I joined.

BTW, you listed Alamo as being the top of that list. They’re owned by Enterprise.
Didn't see National on the list. Also owned by Enterprise

That’s interesting since all three share the same space and the cars are parked in interchangeable spaces.

oldfarmer50 · June 2021

stickguy said:
a few years back my BIL bought a Jag (XE? the midsized one, R model). he lives up in NYS (near Albany) and ended up finding one is southern Connecticut. Instead of making his wife drive him down, he rented a car 1-way. Gets to the local office, and they had assigned him (and I think claimed to have no other options) a Ram 2500 4 door. The longest version. He did not care that much at the time (but regretted it later, probably for the MPG). But apparently, the people at the location at the end were really ticked off because the beast took up 2 parking spots, and was nearly impossible to rent out.

Ha ha that’s an old story with us. The offices play hot potato with pick ups all the time. Nobody wants them since you can’t tow or plow with them. Most of the milage is from us driving them around.

Probably the least abused rental category.

oldfarmer50 · June 2021

henryn said:

bwia said:
Is this real or pushing the envelope of incredulity? Apparently you can charge a Tesla by towing it at 70 mph to give it a charging boost at almost Supercharge levels to replenish the battery.
Obviously, such a practice is not encouraged and you not to try anything like this, but based on the evidence presented in this video experiment, it’s not the worst thing you could subject your electric vehicle to, although you will need something quite powerful to do the towing.
https://insideevs.com/news/514727/tesla-towing-70mph-fast-charging/
Oh, I believe it. But I also think it's downright stupid.

My father was a mechanic, I grew up hanging around a garage, working on cars, and towing cars now and then. I became rather good at it at an early age. But we lived in the country, outside a small town in a rural area. No freeways. My father would never have even contemplated pulling a car down a busy freeway at 70 mph. And he would have kicked my ___ if I had ever attempted anything that hare brained.

Here we’ve got some half wit with more money than brains, pulling a $70k Tesla with a $100k Mercedes down the freeway in heavy traffic. Idiot.

Yep, get$10 worth of electricity and a $5,000 transmission repair bill. Sounds like a plan.

driver100 · June 2021

Patios are finally open here, so we went out for a nice dinner, Mrs D had Butter Chicken with naan bread, I had a lamb shank.
When we came out the steering felt funny and the monitor said check air pressure.
I pulled up to a gas station with an air pump machine....used my credit card to get $2 worth of air.
I could hear it coming out as fast as I put it in.
We got home, run flats should be good for 50 to 100 miles....not great steering though, I wouldn't want to go more than about 50 mph on them.
I looked online to see how long they last. Most say if you get to 20k miles on them you are doing well, JD Powers says they get 6000 miles less than regular tires. One guy claimed he got 36k miles but that was one guy.
I have got 30000 miles on them....I have to replace at least 2 so I am just going to go with 4, looks like I was lucky to get this far on them....the E400 isn't the lightest car around.
How long do tires usually last, anyone know how far they got on RFTs? I think MrsD100s 2008 BMW 330 got about 25000 miles on her tires.

cdnpinhead · June 2021

jmonroe1 said:
Now folks will think I'm showing off.

Only one, I think.

henryn · June 2021

I haven't kept that many cars for that long. A few, though. I remember getting 50k miles on a 1998 Cadillac DeVille with Michelin tires, and the tires still looked good. And the 2008 Passat, 50k on the original Pirelli tires, and then 55k on the replacement Michelins. On my 2016 Town and Country, I replaced tires at 42k, and I'm pretty sure those were the original. I'm afraid I don't remember the brand.

I don't think I've ever had tires that lasted less than 40k. But I've never owned run flats either.

Michaell · June 2021

driver100 said:
Patios are finally open here, so we went out for a nice dinner, Mrs D had Butter Chicken with naan bread, I had a lamb shank.
When we came out the steering felt funny and the monitor said check air pressure.
I pulled up to a gas station with an air pump machine....used my credit card to get $2 worth of air.
I could hear it coming out as fast as I put it in.
We got home, run flats should be good for 50 to 100 miles....not great steering though, I wouldn't want to go more than about 50 mph on them.
I looked online to see how long they last. Most say if you get to 20k miles on them you are doing well, JD Powers says they get 6000 miles less than regular tires. One guy claimed he got 36k miles but that was one guy.
I have got 30000 miles on them....I have to replace at least 2 so I am just going to go with 4, looks like I was lucky to get this far on them....the E400 isn't the lightest car around.
How long do tires usually last, anyone know how far they got on RFTs? I think MrsD100s 2008 BMW 330 got about 25000 miles on her tires.

The MINI has run flats.

Got 26,500 from the OEM tires, and 22,000 on the replacement set. We’ve had the third set for about 3 weeks now.

ab348 · June 2021

I’ve had 2 cars with run flats. Hated them. Harsh riding, noisy, expensive to replace. I got rid of them on the ATS and am now running non-RF Michelins. I have a 12V compressor in the trunk and a cellphone to call roadside assistance if need be.

roadburner · June 2021

Tire mileage is extremely variable as it is dependent on the tire, the vehicle, and the driving style. That said, I usually get at least 30k out of the tires on my vehicles. Currently the only car in the garage with RFTs is the X1- thankfully. It will get regular UHP Michelin all-season tires when the Bridgestones wear out.

explorerx4 · June 2021

One of my kids got 72k out of their non run flat 19 inch Continental's on the their 2013 Ford Escape.
Could have gotten a few K more, but winter was in the near future.
My wife's MKC got 45k from non run flat 20 inch Pirelli P7 Cinturato's.
Kind of disappointed in those.

driver100 · June 2021

Michaell said:

driver100 said:
Patios are finally open here, so we went out for a nice dinner, Mrs D had Butter Chicken with naan bread, I had a lamb shank.
When we came out the steering felt funny and the monitor said check air pressure.
I pulled up to a gas station with an air pump machine....used my credit card to get $2 worth of air.
I could hear it coming out as fast as I put it in.
We got home, run flats should be good for 50 to 100 miles....not great steering though, I wouldn't want to go more than about 50 mph on them.
I looked online to see how long they last. Most say if you get to 20k miles on them you are doing well, JD Powers says they get 6000 miles less than regular tires. One guy claimed he got 36k miles but that was one guy.
I have got 30000 miles on them....I have to replace at least 2 so I am just going to go with 4, looks like I was lucky to get this far on them....the E400 isn't the lightest car around.
How long do tires usually last, anyone know how far they got on RFTs? I think MrsD100s 2008 BMW 330 got about 25000 miles on her tires.
The MINI has run flats.

Got 26,500 from the OEM tires, and 22,000 on the replacement set. We’ve had the third set for about 3 weeks now.

@henryn @ab348 @roadburner

This seems to be about what you can expect to get from RFTs. A CR site says regular tires last about 22000 miles and RFTs 6000 miles less....that sounds too low. They did say customers aren't happy with RFTs...they don't like the harsh ride, nor the fact they wear out so much sooner.

We got the flat tire about 15 miles from home. I read on Tire Rack's site you can expect to go up to 50 miles on a flat RFT, and they aren't made to go over 50 mph. The shaking and the lack of control would make it impossible anyway.

I used to get 40k+ miles on tires too, but they were probably made from harder rubber that didn't grip and roll as well. But I did expect to get just over 30k miles on RFTs, but that doesn't happen too often.

It is extremely inconvenient. At least with a donut you can get around a bit. With a RFT you have to find 2 or possibly 4 tires within 50 miles. If you get a flat in the middle of nowhere you may have a big problem. It is even hard finding a dealer with 4 tires that will work! If you get a flat on a big holiday like Christmas day you might get stuck in some little town...until your tires can get shipped there...and will the guy in the little town have the proper equipment to install them?

I like the idea of getting non-RFTs, but I need more time to research that. Right now I just want to find 4 tires and get them on so I can do all my stuff on Monday....get to tennis by 1 p.m.

driver100 · June 2021

@explorerx4

One of my kids got 72k out of their non run flat 19 inch Continental's on the their 2013 Ford Escape.

Is that while driving 25 mph all the time?

imidazol97 · June 2021

I got over 90K on one set of Michelins. Maybe on my Buick Century. Or the 98 leSabre. These were tires rated at 80K. The type of tread rubber makes a big difference in the wear. Usually I replace tires with about 1/4 of the tread depth left. There's a saying that 90% of tire problems occur in the last 10% of tire tread wear (assuming that is the 10% before the tread depth reaches the wear indicates which means they're worn out).

The tires I'm looking at for replacements for my Malibu, if I replace them, are Michelin Primacy Touring A/S

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Primacy+Tour+A/S&partnum=445VR8PTAS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Mercedes-Benz&autoYear=2017&autoModel=E400 4MATIC Sedan&autoModClar=

These are the size for driver's E400 if it has 18 inch wheels. Rated for 55K miles.

explorerx4 · June 2021

@driver100,
Considering it went from Madison, WI to Cleveland, OH today, just under 500 miles, in 7 hours today, I would say 'No'.

stickguy · June 2021

never had runflats, but regular tires can go anywhere from 25,000-60,000 depending on design. performance oriented RFs are not lasting long.

roadburner · June 2021

I have what Tire Rack calls Grand Touring all season tires on the Clubman- the Vredestein Quatrac 5. They are an excellent match for the Mini. They only need to last another 40 months or so as I will likely sell the car when I retire.

fintail · June 2021

If I keep the wagon at lease end, I will seriously consider replacing the RFs with conventional tires, and go your way - get a little compressor, and I always have a phone. 2 prior Es had RFs, and the difference is easy to tell.'

My E55 AMG had staggered wheels, 20K miles and the Michelin PS2s would be slick.

ab348 said:
I’ve had 2 cars with run flats. Hated them. Harsh riding, noisy, expensive to replace. I got rid of them on the ATS and am now running non-RF Michelins. I have a 12V compressor in the trunk and a cellphone to call roadside assistance if need be.

oldfarmer50 · June 2021

driver100 said:
Patios are finally open here, so we went out for a nice dinner, Mrs D had Butter Chicken with naan bread, I had a lamb shank.
When we came out the steering felt funny and the monitor said check air pressure.
I pulled up to a gas station with an air pump machine....used my credit card to get $2 worth of air.
I could hear it coming out as fast as I put it in.
We got home, run flats should be good for 50 to 100 miles....not great steering though, I wouldn't want to go more than about 50 mph on them.
I looked online to see how long they last. Most say if you get to 20k miles on them you are doing well, JD Powers says they get 6000 miles less than regular tires. One guy claimed he got 36k miles but that was one guy.
I have got 30000 miles on them....I have to replace at least 2 so I am just going to go with 4, looks like I was lucky to get this far on them....the E400 isn't the lightest car around.
How long do tires usually last, anyone know how far they got on RFTs? I think MrsD100s 2008 BMW 330 got about 25000 miles on her tires.

Did you check for damage, maybe you ran over something on the way to the restaurant that messed it up?

Or maybe Jack the Ripper was your valet.

explorerx4 · June 2021

Happy Father's Day, if applicable. Otherwise, enjoy your Sunday.

explorerx4 · June 2021

@driver100,
Re: Your tire. One of the downsides of getting a new roof.

driver100 · June 2021

explorerx4 said:
@driver100,
Considering it went from Madison, WI to Cleveland, OH today, just under 500 miles, in 7 hours today, I would say 'No'.

Explorer, It came to me in the night....it had snow tires on for half the year!

driver100 · June 2021

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:
Patios are finally open here, so we went out for a nice dinner, Mrs D had Butter Chicken with naan bread, I had a lamb shank.
When we came out the steering felt funny and the monitor said check air pressure.
I pulled up to a gas station with an air pump machine....used my credit card to get $2 worth of air.
I could hear it coming out as fast as I put it in.
We got home, run flats should be good for 50 to 100 miles....not great steering though, I wouldn't want to go more than about 50 mph on them.
I looked online to see how long they last. Most say if you get to 20k miles on them you are doing well, JD Powers says they get 6000 miles less than regular tires. One guy claimed he got 36k miles but that was one guy.
I have got 30000 miles on them....I have to replace at least 2 so I am just going to go with 4, looks like I was lucky to get this far on them....the E400 isn't the lightest car around.
How long do tires usually last, anyone know how far they got on RFTs? I think MrsD100s 2008 BMW 330 got about 25000 miles on her tires.
Did you check for damage, maybe you ran over something on the way to the restaurant that messed it up?

Or maybe Jack the Ripper was your valet.

The tire is flat....I stopped at a gas station and used the air pump - $2. I could hear the air rushing out as fast as I put it in. It seems RFTs normally last about 24 to 25k.....I have about 30k on them so not much use trying to squeeze a few more miles out of them.

Fortunately the restaurant was 15 miles away, since you can only go up to 50 miles on them, and at 50 mph, a good thing we didn't go to a restaurant 55 miles away....what do you do on a Saturday evening at 7 p.m., get a motel room?

driver100 · June 2021

explorerx4 said:
@driver100,
Re: Your tire. One of the downsides of getting a new roof.

I don't think it was the roofer guys....they seemed to be extra careful about removing all debris. It is a bit of a coincidence though. Once when we were in another house neighbors had their roof done....about 5 people got flats and it would be hard to improve who did it....even though they were caused by roofing nails.

roadburner · June 2021

Happy Father’s Day to all the dads out there. My son and I are watching F1 before we head to the Cup race. Here’s a favorite picture of my son and I from a year ago at Kentucky Speedway:

imidazol97 · June 2021

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:
@driver100,
Re: Your tire. One of the downsides of getting a new roof.
I don't think it was the roofer guys....they seemed to be extra careful about removing all debris. It is a bit of a coincidence though. Once when we were in another house neighbors had their roof done....about 5 people got flats and it would be hard to improve who did it....even though they were caused by roofing nails.

Has anyone else in your hood had a roof done lately?
You may have gotten a roofing nail in the tire and it worked its way out leaving the large leak through which you're hearing the air escape.

When I lived east of Cincinnati, the area had lots of homes being built. I got several nails from The Guys throwing stuff into the truck bed and the nails dribbling out onto the roads, in my opinion. Most often those nails stick into the rear tires because the front tires hit the nails sitting on their side on the road and toss them in the air. The one time a nail is pointed upward as the rear tire hits it, the nail is punched into the tire.

stickguy · June 2021

explorerx4 said:
@driver100,
Re: Your tire. One of the downsides of getting a new roof.

must have dropped too many of those hand nailed nails.

stickguy · June 2021

usually those nails stay in if they go in, so you get a slow leak. My daughter had one a few months ago on her Jetta, right before she came back home and we sold it. Gradually got low, but held air once I pumped it up well enough to get to a tire place for a plug. If you are hearing air rushing out that sounds more like a sidewall gash.

bwia · June 2021

explorerx4 said:
Happy Father's Day, if applicable. Otherwise, enjoy your Sunday.

Happy belated Juneteenth and Happy Father's Day to all.

carnaught · June 2021

For those who care: UPDATE on my real estate lottery experience. We had our inspection this last Wed. on the house we placed under contract. Needless to say that it was shockingly bad how the hidden parts of it had been maintained in an otherwise upscale home and location. It was so bad that we had to back-out of the purchase. With our present house sold, and the buyer’s earnest money having gone “hard”, we were essentially homeless. No worries though as we live in a resort area with plenty of VRBO’s and rental apartments available during these hot summer months. We located some of these as well as a storage facility. Then….we made another stab at a place we previously had placed an offer on that was rejected by the seller. This time, after compromise on both our sides, we made it happen. In addition, inspection-wise, things checked out well. Among other things it has a new $17k roof, newer HVAC’s and has been beautifully maintained, gorgeous pool, etc. Unless something unexpected comes up, we will be moving in just under 4 weeks. The place is larger, newer and a step-up from our current one, plus we get to pocket some bucks. The downside is that it is more expensive than the rejected place and the location is nice although less convenient.

henryn · June 2021

stickguy said:
usually those nails stay in if they go in, so you get a slow leak. My daughter had one a few months ago on her Jetta, right before she came back home and we sold it. Gradually got low, but held air once I pumped it up well enough to get to a tire place for a plug. If you are hearing air rushing out that sounds more like a sidewall gash.

"They" try very hard to discourage you from having a tire plugged these days. The recommendation is to have it "patched" (dismount the tire and patch the hole from the inside), or just replace the tire. The Firestone down the street from me will do a good job of patching for about $20. The better tire stores, the reputable places, like Firestone or Discount Tire, will not patch a tire, at all.

On edit: Ooops, I meant to say "will not PLUG a tire", not "will not PATCH a tire".

driver100 · June 2021

@carnaught Congratulations on finding a nice home. Sometimes bad things happen for a reason, I am sure it will all work out for the best. Paying a bit more doesn't matter with house....you will live in it and enjoy it....and in 10 years you will be glad you bought it and the extra amount won't matter...in fact it means the house will be worth more than the other one.

driver100 · June 2021

henryn said:

stickguy said:
usually those nails stay in if they go in, so you get a slow leak. My daughter had one a few months ago on her Jetta, right before she came back home and we sold it. Gradually got low, but held air once I pumped it up well enough to get to a tire place for a plug. If you are hearing air rushing out that sounds more like a sidewall gash.
"They" try very hard to discourage you from having a tire plugged these days. The recommendation is to have it "patched" (dismount the tire and patch the hole from the inside), or just replace the tire. The Firestone down the street from me will do a good job of patching for about $20. The better tire stores, the reputable places, like Firestone or Discount Tire, will not patch a tire, at all.

Mercedes patched a tire on Mrs D100s GLK. It had a big bolt in the tread. If a Mercedes dealer does a patch then it must hold, I am sure they would prefer to sell us a new tire. They do look at it carefully to make sure it is in a place that will hold the patch.

roadburner · June 2021

A few years I noticed a lady having trouble with a flat at the BP station up the road from my house. Her tire had an 8” long gutter nail. I changed it for her because her can of Fix-A-Flat wasn’t going to work.

bwia · June 2021

Speaking of tires, some eight years ago, the easiest $200 I ever made was participating in a Michelin Tire survey. For some reason someone called me from Montreal with an invitation to participate in their survey. Sounds fair enough, but what was most unexpected is that they promise to pay me $200 US for my time.

I thought the survey would consume a big chunk of my time but in actuality it took less than five minutes as many of the questions did not apply to me. They asked the usual demographic questions but when it came to Michelin specific questions all my answers were "Not Applicable" since I had never bought Michelin tires before. Nonetheless, they thanked me for my time and a few weeks later I received a $200 check in the mail.

Don't know if this was a marketing ploy or a mistake in sample selection, but since then I've fallen into the trap of imposter syndrome* and have only bought Michelin tires. I still have a photocopy of that cheque (Canadian spelling) saved somewhere on my computer.

*BTW, is that the correct context here?

tjc78 · June 2021

I personally think the patch is just a way to make more money. I’ve had plenty of tires plugged with zero issues at all.

Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads!

driver100 · June 2021

I could get regular tires put on today....the place I called doesn't have RFTs in stock. It is tempting to do it....like ab has done.
The reason why I am not going to do it is because I won't have a spare. The Fix-a-Flat stuff won't always work. I'd like to buy a donut but then I need a jack and would have to call The AAA Guy etc. Still easier to try and drive somewhere to get help.
I'll check my Mercedes dealer in the morning....they should have the right tires. What a hassle! :@

stickguy · June 2021

the place that I found that could do her tire right away on a Saturday morning was in a slightly sketchy neighborhood in Wilmington, but not far from her apartment. Little hole in the wall shop (1 garage door) with stacks of tires all over. a few cars could get inside, but they did a lot of work right out on the sidewalk. Did a big business in repairs and selling used tires (but in theory could sell you new ones too I guess).

waited a few minutes for them to finish up one job out in the road, then they had us pull 1/2 into the shop, and the guy had the car jacked up, tire off, plug in, leak tested, and back on the car in maybe 5 minutes. Cost a whopping $10. Kid was happy. she never even got out of the car (not that she was willing to, I pretty much had to force her to even stop!) but was glad I found the place and got it done so quick and cheap. The chain store wouldn't even give her an appointment for another 4 days.

henryn · June 2021

driver100 said:

henryn said:

stickguy said:
usually those nails stay in if they go in, so you get a slow leak. My daughter had one a few months ago on her Jetta, right before she came back home and we sold it. Gradually got low, but held air once I pumped it up well enough to get to a tire place for a plug. If you are hearing air rushing out that sounds more like a sidewall gash.
"They" try very hard to discourage you from having a tire plugged these days. The recommendation is to have it "patched" (dismount the tire and patch the hole from the inside), or just replace the tire. The Firestone down the street from me will do a good job of patching for about $20. The better tire stores, the reputable places, like Firestone or Discount Tire, will not patch a tire, at all.
Mercedes patched a tire on Mrs D100s GLK. It had a big bolt in the tread. If a Mercedes dealer does a patch then it must hold, I am sure they would prefer to sell us a new tire. They do look at it carefully to make sure it is in a place that will hold the patch.

Ooops, my bad, I meant to say "will not PLUG a tire" rather than "will not PATCH a tire". Yes, they will patch, but they won't plug. Depending, of course, on the location and the severity.

tjc78 · June 2021

@stickguy said:
the place that I found that could do her tire right away on a Saturday morning was in a slightly sketchy neighborhood in Wilmington, but not far from her apartment. Little hole in the wall shop (1 garage door) with stacks of tires all over. a few cars could get inside, but they did a lot of work right out on the sidewalk. Did a big business in repairs and selling used tires (but in theory could sell you new ones too I guess).

waited a few minutes for them to finish up one job out in the road, then they had us pull 1/2 into the shop, and the guy had the car jacked up, tire off, plug in, leak tested, and back on the car in maybe 5 minutes. Cost a whopping $10. Kid was happy. she never even got out of the car (not that she was willing to, I pretty much had to force her to even stop!) but was glad I found the place and got it done so quick and cheap. The chain store wouldn't even give her an appointment for another 4 days.

This happened to me near Newark NJ years ago in the company Navigator. Shop didn’t even jack that beast up. Wanted $12 I handed the guy a $20 because he stopped what he was doing to get me out quickly.

I really don’t want my tire dismounted if not 100% necessary. My S60 has had a plug since it was nearly new. No problems.

roadburner · June 2021

I once had a plug start to leak, so I’ve preferred patches ever since- especially on my track rats.

stickguy · June 2021

her tires also had 42K miles on them and some cupping. would not be around much longer if we kept the car, but we already knew it was getting sold in a few weeks anyway most likely.

mjfloyd1 · June 2021

@roadburner said:
Happy Father’s Day to all the dads out there. My son and I are watching F1 before we head to the Cup race. Here’s a favorite picture of my son and I from a year ago at Kentucky Speedway:

Great picture.

Enjoy the NASCAR in Nashville. Say “hi” to Ricky Bobby and remember that rubbin is racin.

cdnpinhead · June 2021

tjc78 said:
I personally think the patch is just a way to make more money. I’ve had plenty of tires plugged with zero issues at all.

True, but that's nothing compared to refusing to repair the tire at all and requiring you to buy a new one, and since it'll have more tread than the others, "may as well do them all," and it's "required" if it's an AWD vehicle.

explorerx4 · June 2021

Briefly thought I saw a late model Corvette drive by this morning.
The neighbor up the street who used to have a McLaren now has one of these:
https://luxurypulse.com/sales/show/935-ferrari-488-pista-piloti

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