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  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLMember Posts: 6,028
    edited October 2021


    My NCM referred to me as the “anti-salesman” because of my low key approach. Several people who were also shopping other brands made a point of telling me that they decided to buy from our dealership because I wasn’t pushing to close the deal and I didn’t badmouth the other brands.

    It is funny, but I'm convinced these people are completely invisible to the other "style" dealers/salespeople. These people who tell you that treating customers poorly "works" will quote sales numbers, which is an understandable metric. However, they can't tell how many sales they lost and why, there are no surveys for that. For them it doesn't matter anyway, because they have salespeople with expiration date matched with one-time customers. As long as they don't run out of them, they are successful.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,633

    @laurasdada said:
    My auto insurance renews 11/1, my agent noted if I wanted to switch to Commerce, annual premium is $300 lower for same coverage. Cool, let's do it.

    And, they give a 5% discount for donating $25+ to the Pan Mass Challenge (Dana Farber Cancer), which I more than do annually as a college bud is a dedicate rider on the cause. AAA discount, too.

    How will I waste that $300?

    Edmunds will give you my address/account number.

    Thanks.

    jmonroe

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,103
    So, will this dealership model be affected by the "Great Resignation", as so many other industries are experiencing?

    I don't think there is an endless supply of "fresh fish" to supply dealers with the bodies they need. They might learn that they can get by with a much smaller number of experienced sales folks.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,905
    my guess, they will love it. Cuts down on the overhead. The more that is done via the internet and ordering, the fewer live people you need on the floor. And no commissions.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,141
    Some personalities don't believe in sales or salespeople. When they want something they research it on Google and buy it on Amazon or elsewhere. They feel that they only buy things they've already sold themselves on.
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,100

    On Saturday, we have a realtor coming over to review our house to see what we need to do to sell it.
    Not sure what is important to buyers as far as things that need fixing. Things we might think are important may not be.
    We like this house, inside and out, but there are also things we don't like or are missing.
    Had water in the basement at some point, but may be fixed.
    There is some issue with the chimney.
    Mechanicals are old.
    May be an issue with the roof down by the gutters, but I'm not sure.
    No patio area.
    We also spec'ed out a new build, but I'm not happy with the lots.
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1788-Hunters-Point-Ln_Westlake_OH_44145_M35643-77664

    1/3 acre lots are standard in my town for subdivisions. They raised it from 1/4 acre lots some years ago in order to keep the riff raff out.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,469
    edited October 2021
    @oldfarmer50,
    Mine is .4 but we are looking at about .3. Under 1/2 an acre.
    This one looked promising, but the realtor refuses to show any houses by this builder.
    This is not a new house.
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/36224-Atlantic-Ave_North-Ridgeville_OH_44039_M47462-89589
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,100
    driver100 said:

    I got this email today. I haven't ordered anything from U.P.S. that I know of. The addresses seem phony since they don't contain the name UPS in them. What say you?

    -------- Original Message --------
    From: [email protected].ca
    Date: Oct 20, 2021 5:58:18 PM
    Subject: UPS unsuccessful delivery - 10312975447/10/20/2021 9:58:15 p.m.
    To: Driver100

    -Your Parcel Number #886702644225# is on the way.
    -Your Package is stopped at our post.

    -A $2.20 shipping cost have not been paid.

    -If shipping cost is not paid, the package will be returned.

    -Pay Now
    -Package Information:

    -Status Parcel being hold at Terminal 2

    -Parcel Number : #104264991#
    -Weight 0,041 kg

    ===================================================

    -Total: 0.00$

    -Sending Costs: $2.20
    -Grand Total: $2.20


    "Do they just want my credit card number & cogeco.ca is a local internet provider.".

    Unless you order stuff in your sleep it’s a scam but check with your wife to see if she was ordering something as a surprise.

    Just to be sure why don’t you send me your credit card number so I can keep an eye on it. ;)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,905

    @oldfarmer50,
    Mine is .4 but we are looking at about .3. Under 1/2 an acre.
    This one looked promising, but the realtor refuses to show any houses by this builder.
    This is not a new house.
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/36224-Atlantic-Ave_North-Ridgeville_OH_44039_M47462-89589

    can't speak to the builder of course (but that is good your agent is looking out for you), but I love that house. It is pretty much exactly what we are looking for.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,100
    driver100 said:

    @qbrozen @ab348 People are being scammed every day with emails similar to the UPS one.
    It is unfortunate that some people creatures find this is an OK way to try and make a living. The UPS scam was fairly easy to spot, but I would guess some scammers will get better and better at it........we have to stay alert. It sounds like the Shoppers one was a little more sophisticated....can't let your guard down.

    At one time I was getting multiple emails from various “banks” claiming my account was compromised and to log into a site to rectify the problem. The problem was I didn’t do business with any of them.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,905
    they don't care. send to enough people, and some will use that bank!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,100
    stickguy said:

    Talk of adding one in NY too (up near Albany). A better place, since chip manufacturing is water intensive I think, and that’s not a selling point in AZ right now.

    But definitely going to help having more production capacity anywhere, and especially domestically .

    Global Foundries in Malta NY has been trying to scam NY out of another couple billion in subsidies and tax breaks for years. Maybe this time it would serve some purpose.

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  • bwiabwia Greater BostonMember Posts: 2,884

    Random Abandoned Cars Could Be Yours at Pittsburgh Airport's Annual Auction

    Why do people park at the airport and never come back? Who knows, but it might lead to a bargain for you. The auction happens on October 23.

    Ten passenger vehicles, all of which at some point were parked in the public parking lot and never picked up, will be up for sale this weekend. They include, in addition to the 2009 Nissan Titan and 2002 BMW 530i pictured above, a 2007 Chevy Impala, a 2015 Mini Cooper S, and a 2007 Pontiac G6. 
    Source: Caranddriver.com

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 12,054
    edited October 2021

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    At one time I was getting multiple emails from various “banks” claiming my account was compromised and to log into a site to rectify the problem. The problem was I didn’t do business with any of them.

    I get those emails too! Several from my cable provider and several from banks I never had accounts with. I just don’t respond to them. If my bank or Genesis Financial have a need to contact me, their emails would state, “…please log in to your account to review a change or problem with your account(s).

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 30,408
    bwia said:

    Random Abandoned Cars Could Be Yours at Pittsburgh Airport's Annual Auction

    Why do people park at the airport and never come back? Who knows, but it might lead to a bargain for you. The auction happens on October 23.

    There might be a body in the trunk! ;)

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 30,408

    driver100 said:

    @qbrozen @ab348 People are being scammed every day with emails similar to the UPS one.
    It is unfortunate that some people creatures find this is an OK way to try and make a living. The UPS scam was fairly easy to spot, but I would guess some scammers will get better and better at it........we have to stay alert. It sounds like the Shoppers one was a little more sophisticated....can't let your guard down.

    At one time I was getting multiple emails from various “banks” claiming my account was compromised and to log into a site to rectify the problem. The problem was I didn’t do business with any of them.
    And the ones I get use the bank's logo to make it look more real....until you read the email [email protected]

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,469
    There were a lot of abandon cars around here at airports and train stations after 9-11. :'(
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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 30,408

    driver100 said:

    I got this email today. I haven't ordered anything from U.P.S. that I know of. The addresses seem phony since they don't contain the name UPS in them. What say you?

    -------- Original Message --------
    From: [email protected].ca
    Date: Oct 20, 2021 5:58:18 PM
    Subject: UPS unsuccessful delivery - 10312975447/10/20/2021 9:58:15 p.m.
    To: Driver100

    -Your Parcel Number #886702644225# is on the way.
    -Your Package is stopped at our post.

    -A $2.20 shipping cost have not been paid.

    -If shipping cost is not paid, the package will be returned.

    -Pay Now
    -Package Information:

    -Status Parcel being hold at Terminal 2

    -Parcel Number : #104264991#
    -Weight 0,041 kg

    ===================================================

    -Total: 0.00$

    -Sending Costs: $2.20
    -Grand Total: $2.20


    "Do they just want my credit card number & cogeco.ca is a local internet provider.".

    Unless you order stuff in your sleep it’s a scam but check with your wife to see if she was ordering something as a surprise.

    Just to be sure why don’t you send me your credit card number so I can keep an eye on it. ;)
    It's nice to have such good friends watching my back for me!

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,977

    @bwia said:
    They include, in addition to the 2009 Nissan Titan and 2002 BMW 530i pictured above, a 2007 Chevy Impala, a 2015 Mini Cooper S, and a 2007 Pontiac G6. 
    Source: Caranddriver.com

    The Mini could be interesting.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,905
    I was thinking about the Titan.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,905
    seems odd that some of those cars have keys. others say keys available. Wonder if they spend the money to get one made?

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,633

    Before you guys get any ideas about wanting me to check out any of those cars this weekend, I can’t do it since I’ll be at the flip alone because Son #1 is going to the Penn State game at Happy Valley with his family. I’m thinking about asking for weekend pay/double time or else I’m quitting. 😫

    The good thing is I’ll be the boss.

    jmonroe

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 26,437


    Ohio has a new license plate design.

    One problem.

    The Wright Flyer plane is flying backwards. LOL

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,006

    They did fix it later the same day, but not before the NC DOT could tweet: Y'all leave Ohio alone. They wouldn't know. They weren't there. #FirstInFlight,

    Pretty funny.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,582
    jmonroe1 said:

    @snakeweasel said:

    I would question the fact that 6 nails vs 4 provides 50% more hold down strength. I would think that with something the size of a roof shingle that at 4 you are at the point of diminishing returns, each additional nail adds less additional hold down strength than the previous one. I would think that with 6 you have nails that are duplicating the effort of other nails.

    It’s simple math 6 nails provide more hold down strength compared to 4. If you put nails clear across the shingle butting their heads together you would have the most hold down strength possible for that shingle but it is obviously not needed and this would be a case for diminishing returns. 6 nails vs. 4 is probably overkill too but it is still stronger than 4.

    jmonroe


    It's not simple math it's simple physics. Just because you increase the number of nails by 50% does not mean the force holding down the shingle increases by 50%. I would think that if 4 nails does an effective job than they are spaced close enough that the force provided by any one nail is overlapped by forces of the nails on either side of it. Spacing them closer to allow for 6 nails would likely create areas when the combined forces become redundant and no additional force is really created. This is the law of diminishing returns.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,582
    bwia said:


    Tesla made $1.6 billion in the three months ending in September, the second quarter in a row that its profit has exceeded the billion-dollar mark.

    The bottom-line figure exceeded the $1.1 billion it made in the second quarter and was nearly five times its profit from the third quarter of 2020. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/business/tesla-earnings.html

    Do we have a cash flow statement? That would be more telling as part of the profit could exist only on paper.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,747

    @stickguy said:
    they don't care. send to enough people, and some will use that bank!

    I always know it’s a scam because when there truly is suspicious activity the CC company will contact you every way they have.

    We bought furniture from Joss and Main for our deck at the shore (old place) and it was about $2500. The second my wife clicked submit order my phone got a call, text and email about suspicious activity. I think the shipping address combined with the amount triggered fraud.

    When it’s a phishing scam, typically you only get a random text or email.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,469
    edited October 2021
    Considering there are 3 tabs per shingle, using 6 nails makes sense.
    If you are using 4 nails, that probably means you are using 2 nails at the weakest points.
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,100
    abacomike said:

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    At one time I was getting multiple emails from various “banks” claiming my account was compromised and to log into a site to rectify the problem. The problem was I didn’t do business with any of them.

    I get those emails too! Several from my cable provider and several from banks I never had accounts with. I just don’t respond to them. If my bank or Genesis Financial have a need to contact me, their emails would state, “…please log in to your account to review a change or problem with your account(s).


    Unfortunately, that’s exactly how these scam bank emails are set up. They direct you you to an enclosed link to supposedly access your account. That, I assume is where they pull their mischief.

    I just forward the email to the phishing center at the real bank. After about a dozen referrals to the real banks the emails have pretty much stopped.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,100

    @oldfarmer50,
    Mine is .4 but we are looking at about .3. Under 1/2 an acre.
    This one looked promising, but the realtor refuses to show any houses by this builder.
    This is not a new house.
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/36224-Atlantic-Ave_North-Ridgeville_OH_44039_M47462-89589

    Forgive me for being dense but why would a realtor refuse to show you a house? I’ve never bought anything other than vacant land so I’m a bit clueless.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,582
    bwia said:

    Random Abandoned Cars Could Be Yours at Pittsburgh Airport's Annual Auction

    Why do people park at the airport and never come back? Who knows, but it might lead to a bargain for you. The auction happens on October 23.

    Ten passenger vehicles, all of which at some point were parked in the public parking lot and never picked up, will be up for sale this weekend. They include, in addition to the 2009 Nissan Titan and 2002 BMW 530i pictured above, a 2007 Chevy Impala, a 2015 Mini Cooper S, and a 2007 Pontiac G6. 

    Source: Caranddriver.com

    Any takers on how many dead gangsters are in the trunks?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,905

    @oldfarmer50,
    Mine is .4 but we are looking at about .3. Under 1/2 an acre.
    This one looked promising, but the realtor refuses to show any houses by this builder.
    This is not a new house.
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/36224-Atlantic-Ave_North-Ridgeville_OH_44039_M47462-89589

    Forgive me for being dense but why would a realtor refuse to show you a house? I’ve never bought anything other than vacant land so I’m a bit clueless.
    Some builders are not very good, and their houses tend to have problems. I assume the realtor just has experience with their builds being junk.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,582
    tjc78 said:

    @stickguy said:

    they don't care. send to enough people, and some will use that bank!

    I always know it’s a scam because when there truly is suspicious activity the CC company will contact you every way they have.

    We bought furniture from Joss and Main for our deck at the shore (old place) and it was about $2500. The second my wife clicked submit order my phone got a call, text and email about suspicious activity. I think the shipping address combined with the amount triggered fraud.

    When it’s a phishing scam, typically you only get a random text or email.


    One time I was in Florida and picked up some stuff at the Home Depot for the kids house, the next day we flew back home and as soon as we got home I went to our local Meijer to get a few things. As I was leaving the Meijer I received a text message from my bank about suspicious activity on my card. I called them back thinking it was about the big purchase I did in Florida but no it was about the small purchase I did at the Meijer, a store that I use the card at a few times a week.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 12,054

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    Unfortunately, that’s exactly how these scam bank emails are set up. They direct you you to an enclosed link to supposedly access your account. That, I assume is where they pull their mischief.

    I just forward the email to the phishing center at the real bank. After about a dozen referrals to the real banks the emails have pretty much stopped.

    I don’t log into the phishing email’s hyperlink - I log into my mobile APP. I never use their phishing hyperlinks - that would be suicidal!

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,469
    @oldfarmer50,
    That particular builder has a pretty bad quality rep, so I'm guessing that is the reason for it.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,760

    Considering there are 3 tabs per shingle, using 6 nails makes sense.
    If you are using 4 nails, that probably means you are using 2 nails at the weakest points.

    The nails don't go through the tabs. Just above them on the solid part of the shingle. More nails doesn't make a better performing shingle. Plus, architectural shingles don't have tabs. Very rare to see three tab shingles, any more.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,469
    I wasn't thinking about architectural style shingles, so true, but I did look at a house that had a recent roof with the 3 tab shingles.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,760

    I wasn't thinking about architectural style shingles, so true, but I did look at a house that had a recent roof with the 3 tab shingles.

    Even then, the nails don't go through the tabs.

    Think about this: Every nail hole is a possible leak point. Yes, the shingles are designed to seal around the nail. But, extra nails are not always better. If I'm looking to spend more money, ice dams, underlayment and superior contractor knowledge on flashing, etc, are a much better way to spend your money.

    Also, good gutters and water evacuation from the downspouts are as important as the roof. :)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,905
    I’m surprised somebody hasn’t come out with a nailless shingle system.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,582

    More proof of why we can't have good things out on the patio.

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  • ventureventure Central PAMember Posts: 2,350
    I was just looking at a friends Bronco Sport Big Bend. Not a bad vehicle.

    He said he got it for $1,500 under MSRP. He ordered it 3 months ago.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,840

    More proof of why we can't have good things out on the patio.

    My dog brings his friends up to the porch to visit.


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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,006
    venture said:

    I was just looking at a friends Bronco Sport Big Bend. Not a bad vehicle.

    He said he got it for $1,500 under MSRP. He ordered it 3 months ago.

    Now there is something I'd dump immediately for a big payday

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,977
    I've just been letting you guys argue about nails and shingles. Doesn't take much to get some opinions heated up, but you missed the actual reason they do it. According to CertainTeed, if a certified installer uses 6 nails per shingle installed as per their protocols, the job becomes eligible for an upgraded warranty, I believe against wind damage but maybe something else as well. So the company I picked does that as a matter of course.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,582
    ab348 said:

    I've just been letting you guys argue about nails and shingles. Doesn't take much to get some opinions heated up, but you missed the actual reason they do it. According to CertainTeed, if a certified installer uses 6 nails per shingle installed as per their protocols, the job becomes eligible for an upgraded warranty, I believe against wind damage but maybe something else as well. So the company I picked does that as a matter of course.

    So basically it's a marketing thing.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,840
    qbrozen said:

    venture said:

    I was just looking at a friends Bronco Sport Big Bend. Not a bad vehicle.

    He said he got it for $1,500 under MSRP. He ordered it 3 months ago.

    Now there is something I'd dump immediately for a big payday
    Same here!

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,103
    Guys, he said Bronco Sport

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 12,054

    Just filled up with PUG at my local Costco - $3.59.9 a gallon! That’s an increase of 40 cents a gallon in the last 5 weeks. I paid $3.35.9 two weeks ago which was my last fill-up.

    The average price for PUG at the other gas stations in the area is $3.89.9. Estimates are that PUG will be close to $5.00 a gallon by Christmas unless something happens to curtail the cost of crude.

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  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulMember Posts: 1,075

    Slightly off topic, but that’s what this forum is for, right? I know there’s a bit of a NJ contingent in here but I was wondering if any of you were close to the Philly suburbs. I’m being tempted to apply for a job in that area and was curious about the good, bad, and ugly of those communities, especially in Burlington County.

    Any knowledge you can share is appreciated, whether on here or in PMs.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,977

    ab348 said:

    I've just been letting you guys argue about nails and shingles. Doesn't take much to get some opinions heated up, but you missed the actual reason they do it. According to CertainTeed, if a certified installer uses 6 nails per shingle installed as per their protocols, the job becomes eligible for an upgraded warranty, I believe against wind damage but maybe something else as well. So the company I picked does that as a matter of course.

    So basically it's a marketing thing.
    You misspelled "warranty".

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