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ab348 · June 2022

tjc78 said:

On my street someone has a beautiful X5 M50i and a McClaren.

Those are rare, often confused with a McLaren.

abacomike · June 2022

@imidazol97 said:
Those of us who remember Richard Monroe, sterlingdog, have lost another of our group.
I can't recall his earlier username; it might have included monroe in it.

I occasionally checked in with him by email but it had been quite a while since I
had contact or that he had forwarded anything to me.
I'm sad to say I found his obituary today.

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/robesonian/name/richard-monroe-obituary?id=33845578

I remember Richard well, may he RIP.

He was a guy who always got involved in settling disputes among posters. He had a way of bringing logic to those disputes - a sort of referee. A great guy with a great heart - the world will miss him dearly as we do here on Edmunds. 🥲

abacomike · June 2022

Gasoline has gotten so expensive that even Costco is only a few cents a gallon cheaper than surrounding gas stations.

I needed gas last Friday so instead of paying $4.95 a gallon at Costco with 1.5% cash back on my Visa, I got gas at a local Marathon station for $5.00 a gallon with 5% cash back on my Discover card. Things are getting worse day-by-day.

tjc78 · June 2022

@ab348 said:
Those are rare, often confused with a McLaren.

Car is so out of my league I can’t even spell it right.

Michaell · June 2022

tjc78 said:

@ab348 said:

Those are rare, often confused with a McLaren.

Car is so out of my league I can’t even spell it right.

A neighbor about 5 houses down from me drives a McLaren … it’s his daily driver.

jmonroe1 · June 2022

venture said:
We were in Maryland over the long weekend visiting with our two grandsons and their parents. I went to the local grocery store. When I got out of the car I saw I had parked next to a Mercedes AMG C43 which was parked next to a Porsche SUV (I don't know which one if there is more than 1. They all look the same to me).

When I turned around I saw another Porsche SUV which was parked next to a Carrera S.

————————————————-
You sir were in a neighborhood where you out kicked your coverage.

jmonroe

kyfdx · June 2022

Michaell said:

tjc78 said:

@ab348 said:

Those are rare, often confused with a McLaren.

Car is so out of my league I can’t even spell it right.

A neighbor about 5 houses down from me drives a McLaren … it’s his daily driver.

Couldn't afford a McClaren, huh?

graphicguy · June 2022

Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.

Michaell · June 2022

graphicguy said:
Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.

I saw an Accord Hybrid Touring the other day - not your color, but made me think of you and the benefits your getting.

Thanks for the update.

explorerx4 · June 2022

Thomas and I got along very well.

venture · June 2022

I almost forgot.

Every trip you come across the left lane campers going the speed limit or slightly under holding up a slug of traffic.

This trip, consisting of 6 hours of freeway time, every one - 100% - were gray/silver Honda's.

tjc78 · June 2022

@explorerx4 said:
Thomas and I got along very well.

Sure the grandkids loved it

stickguy · June 2022

Got new wheels today! Well, temporary. we rented a storage unit for a month to clear out the garage from the house overflow that needed to go elsewhere when pictures are being taken and showings happening. So I got to borrow the "free" truck (which actually costs $15, but still cheaper than a U haul) for a couple of hours. One clapped out E350. Not sure what year it is, but it seems to have had a very hard 15,000 mile life (definitely all local miles). based on the body condition, not many people actually know how to drive one of these (if is a chassis cap with a big box on the back).

probably does not help that there isn't even a backup camera on it. Might explained the very wrinkled back bumper step.

explorerx4 · June 2022

House posted on realtor today, for sale starting next Monday.
4 appointments for Monday already.

stickguy · June 2022

ours should be up tomorrow after the pictures go up. just from the agent preview that the agent posted we have 4 showings booked already for Saturday and Sunday just from that (and nothing but a picture of the front).

I am guessing that once the real listing goes up we are going to get a lot of tour requests. At least I hope so!

explorerx4 · June 2022

@stickguy,
Good Luck!
BTW, our listing originally had a single picture from the town website, then later on it changed to 40 pics taken by the photographer.

stickguy · June 2022

I asked my agent about that. She said that the sites like Realtor can have a lag where the listing gets up before the pictures get loaded, so it defaults to google street view temporarily.

ours isn't actually listed yet on MLS. just some internal agents portal so they can get a sneak peek of what is coming. been on that since last Friday.

explorerx4 · June 2022

Gotcha

tjc78 · June 2022

Hey guys. Back in August 2020 (market wasn’t quite as crazy) our house went live on Realtor around 9:00
AM on a Saturday. About a half hour later our phones were literally blowing up with showing requests to accept (some system our Realtor used).

When we sold our Park Model at the campground in July 2021 my wife had hundreds of requests within hours of posting.

Amazing how fast things move today.

abacomike · June 2022

Came down with a nasty cold Saturday. At first I thought it might be Covid - took the home test and it was negative. Spoke with my doctor yesterday and after I told him about my symptoms (not very good looking green stuff coming out of my lungs and nose) he put me on Azithromycin (500 mg tablet once a day for 5 days) and a steroid pack (21 tablets decreasing in dosage for 6 days - 6,5,4,3,2,1) - for my lungs. Still have symptoms, but loosening up a bit. No fever and lower digestive issues to date.

We don’t realize how many viruses are out there infecting humans. Doctor doubted it was the flu because I had no fever and no accompanying aches and pains. Had to cancel my appointment for injections into my back to relieve the pain.

Things haven’t been going very well for me health wise these last couple of years.

oldfarmer50 · June 2022

stickguy said:
I asked my agent about that. She said that the sites like Realtor can have a lag where the listing gets up before the pictures get loaded, so it defaults to google street view temporarily.

ours isn't actually listed yet on MLS. just some internal agents portal so they can get a sneak peek of what is coming. been on that since last Friday.

Once you list you should start checking the Craigslist real estate for rent section. I have seen scammers lift the pictures directly from a MLS listing and put it up for rent. The last thing you need is some stranger pulling up to house because he thinks he rented your property.

oldfarmer50 · June 2022

abacomike said:
Came down with a nasty cold Saturday. At first I thought it might be Covid - took the home test and it was negative. Spoke with my doctor yesterday and after I told him about my symptoms (not very good looking green stuff coming out of my lungs and nose) he put me on Azithromycin (500 mg tablet once a day for 5 days) and a steroid pack (21 tablets decreasing in dosage for 6 days - 6,5,4,3,2,1 - for my lungs. Still have symptoms, but loosening up a bit. No fever and lower digestive issues to date.

We don’t realize how many viruses are out there infecting humans. Doctor doubted it was the flu because I had no fever and no accompanying aches and pains. Had to cancel my appointment for injections into my back to relieve the pain.

Things haven’t been going very well for me health wise these last couple of years.

A doctor once told me that if germs were visible it would be like walking through a dense fog. The fact that our immune system can deal with almost all of them is a miracle. BTW, I read that us old codger who actually had smallpox inoculations are immune to monkey pox too.

Take that you young whippersnappers!

imidazol97 · June 2022

abacomike said:

@imidazol97 said:

Those of us who remember Richard Monroe, sterlingdog, have lost another of our group.

I can't recall his earlier username; it might have included monroe in it.

I occasionally checked in with him by email but it had been quite a while since I

had contact or that he had forwarded anything to me.

I'm sad to say I found his obituary today.

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/robesonian/name/richard-monroe-obituary?id=33845578

I remember Richard well, may he RIP.

He was a guy who always got involved in settling disputes among posters. He had a way of bringing logic to those disputes - a sort of referee. A great guy with a great heart - the world will miss him dearly as we do here on Edmunds. 🥲

I enjoyed the comments on the obituary page as tributes. One said, I'm paraphrasing, that he always bloomed wherever he was planted. I think that's what we saw here.

imidazol97 · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
Thomas and I got along very well.

This reminded me of our son in his engineer's cap a few years older than the kids
in the picture. We were in Strasburg riding the steam powered train to Paradise (PA).
The steam whistle blew and scared him to death. He quickly recovered.

fintail · June 2022

Same here.

tjc78 said:

@qbrozen said:

A little disappointed nobody grabbed on to the movie reference yet.

I had to look it up. Hadn’t seen it in years. Surprised @fintail didn’t grab it.

snakeweasel · June 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:
Good news for oldfarmer50 and pretty soon stickguy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/new-york-gas-tax-suspension-set-to-begin/ar-AAXWgv1?li=BBnb7Kz
It gets better. A few counties will also be suspending their portion of sales tax on gas over $2.00. I estimate a total drop of about 25 cents so now I’ll only pay $5 even.

Gas here is $5.55 for RUG

snakeweasel · June 2022

graphicguy said:
Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.

When I think of hybrids I now think of my sisters Prius that at 12 years of age is now a brick sitting in her driveway. Hybrid batteries are dead and the car won't start without them. Now to get the car running we have to put more into the car than the car is worth.

Maybe we should just blow it up.

driver100 · June 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:
Came down with a nasty cold Saturday. At first I thought it might be Covid - took the home test and it was negative. Spoke with my doctor yesterday and after I told him about my symptoms (not very good looking green stuff coming out of my lungs and nose) he put me on Azithromycin (500 mg tablet once a day for 5 days) and a steroid pack (21 tablets decreasing in dosage for 6 days - 6,5,4,3,2,1 - for my lungs. Still have symptoms, but loosening up a bit. No fever and lower digestive issues to date.

We don’t realize how many viruses are out there infecting humans. Doctor doubted it was the flu because I had no fever and no accompanying aches and pains. Had to cancel my appointment for injections into my back to relieve the pain.

Things haven’t been going very well for me health wise these last couple of years.

A doctor once told me that if germs were visible it would be like walking through a dense fog. The fact that our immune system can deal with almost all of them is a miracle. BTW, I read that us old codger who actually had smallpox inoculations are immune to monkey pox too.

Take that you young whippersnappers!

Not necessarily. Most of us got smallpox vaccinations a long time ago, immunity usually wanes. But, it is possible it protects you from dying from monkey pox. I hope I don't get Monkey Pox....I'd hate to have to tell people I can't come to their party because I have Monkey Pox.

driver100 · June 2022

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:
Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.
When I think of hybrids I now think of my sisters Prius that at 12 years of age is now a brick sitting in her driveway. Hybrid batteries are dead and the car won't start without them. Now to get the car running we have to put more into the car than the car is worth.

Maybe we should just blow it up.

Some owners were so frustrated...they did blow up their EV when they found out how much it would cost to get new batteries.

roadburner · June 2022

graphicguy said:
Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.

My dealer just received a 2022 330e M Sport. It's considerably cheaper(including the tax credit) than anything else I'm considering, but I'm pretty sure I'd end up getting bored with it much sooner than later. It might have been a nice a nice choice for were I 10-15 years older.

snakeweasel · June 2022

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:
Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.
When I think of hybrids I now think of my sisters Prius that at 12 years of age is now a brick sitting in her driveway. Hybrid batteries are dead and the car won't start without them. Now to get the car running we have to put more into the car than the car is worth.

Maybe we should just blow it up.
Some owners were so frustrated...they did blow up their EV when they found out how much it would cost to get new batteries.

I know, that's why I made the comment.

Michaell · June 2022

Nice retro interpretation. 2200 pounds, 420 HP and will be available for sale:

driver100 · June 2022

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:
Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.
When I think of hybrids I now think of my sisters Prius that at 12 years of age is now a brick sitting in her driveway. Hybrid batteries are dead and the car won't start without them. Now to get the car running we have to put more into the car than the car is worth.

Maybe we should just blow it up.
Some owners were so frustrated...they did blow up their EV when they found out how much it would cost to get new batteries.
I know, that's why I made the comment.

I know, that's why I gave an example.

graphicguy · June 2022

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:
Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.
When I think of hybrids I now think of my sisters Prius that at 12 years of age is now a brick sitting in her driveway. Hybrid batteries are dead and the car won't start without them. Now to get the car running we have to put more into the car than the car is worth.

Maybe we should just blow it up.

One of my good friends has a first gen Camry Hybrid, bought new, with 150K+ miles. She just replaced the battery in it (~$3K). But, her maintenance on it has been close to nil. So, aside from consumables, which every car has, and oil changes, that’s been the extent of maintenance.

If memory serves, the Camry gave more than ample warnings and reminders to have the batteries serviced….kind of like reminding you to change the oil in a totally ICE car. Did your sister have any warning about impending service requirements?

Personally, although not something I thought I’d be driving, I’m really enjoying the heck out of mine.

I do know there are many, many taxi fleets using Priuses, with multiples of 100s of thousands of miles. Anecdotal about their longevity but worth noting, nonetheless.

graphicguy · June 2022

I sort of looked at these over the years. First gen was “meh”. This gen was more interesting, though. Actually test drove one when I found out I could make money on my TLX.

Now, this……

https://www.engadget.com/gm-2023-chevy-bolt-ev-euv-price-cut-193132395.html

qbrozen · June 2022

graphicguy said:
I sort of looked at these over the years. First gen was “meh”. This gen was more interesting, though. Actually test drove one when I found out I could make money on my TLX.

Now, this……

https://www.engadget.com/gm-2023-chevy-bolt-ev-euv-price-cut-193132395.html

OUCH! Way to kill resale for all current owners!

driver100 · June 2022

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:
I sort of looked at these over the years. First gen was “meh”. This gen was more interesting, though. Actually test drove one when I found out I could make money on my TLX.

Now, this……

https://www.engadget.com/gm-2023-chevy-bolt-ev-euv-price-cut-193132395.html
OUCH! Way to kill resale for all current owners!

But, you have to expect the price to drop as the technology gets wider usage. It is like buying a new product, microwave, air fryer, flat screen TV, computer etc.....the price usually drops with time.

That's another reason I am not ready to jump in to a full EV....prices will come down and the product will get better. A hybrid I'd definitely consider.

qbrozen · June 2022

Of course, but there is normal depreciation and then there is a massive price cut. So owners getting hit with both. Brutal.

driver100 · June 2022

qbrozen said:
Of course, but there is normal depreciation and then there is a massive price cut. So owners getting hit with both. Brutal.

It happens all the time. This happened, but I have to estimate the prices but they are probably close.
One friend bought a Genesis at the end of the year....for a knocking around car when he didn't want to drive is Maserati in the winter. He got a fully loaded Genesis for about $28000 and he loved it for about a month. And then he said it was boring. He wanted to trade it in but the new model came out and the new one was completely revamped and had way more standard equipment and was a much better car.....same MSRP as his one year old one. They'd only give him $18000 for a trade in....with less than 3000 miles on it.
That really turned him off from a Genesis, and they probably knew what they were doing.
*(prices quoted were estimated)

ab348 · June 2022

I remember VW has done this big price drop several times, back in the early '90s with the GTI, then later with the Jetta and then again with the Passat.

Has Hyundai/Kia resale plummeted because of their exploding engine/fire problems? I haven't really heard much to make me believe they have, yet you would think that would be a huge issue for resale.

ab348 · June 2022

Unusual (to me) issue of sorts with my cat Lucy. A couple of months ago I noticed she would occasionally get fixated on something she saw on the TV screen. I then made the mistake of keeping her entertained by playing YouTube videos for her featuring birds, mice, bunnies, whatever - there seems to be a large calling for these things.

Now she has certain body language/meowing she uses when she wants to see these. Even more remarkable to me is that there are a couple of commercials that are running right now that instantly rivet her to the screen and make her forget whatever else she was doing - apparently the music is a cue that she remembers. I was told by a vet that cats have poor memories but not for this at least.

It's all good fun except that some things (a commercial for Telus telecom right now up here using bunnies hopping around on a white background in particular) makes her go crazy - she will leap off whatever she is sitting on and jump onto the TV stand, start pawing at the screen, and get very agitated. Last week the TV was on downstairs while I was doing laundry and that ad came on. She knocked the 32" screen off its stand though thankfully it was close to the wall so it didn't go far. Yikes.

I have had cats for 20 years and none of them ever even seemed to pay attention to the TV before. Someone mentioned to me that cats could not see much with the old tube TVs because of how the image was scanned via the picture tube, but with flat screens that is different. Don't know if that is true. Anyone's cats show similar behavior?

Michaell · June 2022

Not a cat, but our youngest Dachshund, Daisy, is also enthralled with those YouTube videos we play on the TV. She will also notice other animals on the screen, from time to time.

Our older Doxie simply ignores the TV.

graphicguy · June 2022

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:
I sort of looked at these over the years. First gen was “meh”. This gen was more interesting, though. Actually test drove one when I found out I could make money on my TLX.

Now, this……

https://www.engadget.com/gm-2023-chevy-bolt-ev-euv-price-cut-193132395.html
OUCH! Way to kill resale for all current owners!

Gonna be tough moving those 2021s and 2022s that are being retrofitted at the dealerships with new batteries unless GM compensates buyers with huge rebate checks.

Or, those dealerships who were adding “marketing adjustment” stickers to instock Bolts are really going to have an impossible time selling them, even with steep discounts. Looks like this will backfire on the dealers who’ve been price gouging.

driver100 · June 2022

ab348 said:
Don't know if that is true. Anyone's cats show similar behavior?

Our previous dog Gigi would watch 4 legged animals on TV, ones that resembled dogs. Trixie watches TV a lot, she constantly checks to see if there is an animal or bird on...and she runs up to the screen and barks at them. She knows several commercials by the sound of them, especially the same Telus commercial and one for Pet Smart. She can also make out cartoon animals, and she gets excited at the Toilet Paper Bears promoting Charmin. I don't think all animals, cats or dogs do this, but I think it requires a certain amount of intelligence to take a picture on TV and think that it is real......for animals, not so much for humans though.

stickguy · June 2022

after a massive organizing and cleaning flurry last night, we got the house ready for pictures which happened today. We at least made our agent very happy. she was impressed (and frankly shocked based on what it looked like a week ago) about how well it came out. Even the photographer complimented it and said he didn't have to do any work on it (moving stuff to stage, etc.)

now just need him to get the pictures to the agent so she can load them. If not tonight hopefully by tomorrow morning so more people can see it and request showings this weekend. because I really want this over with by Sunday night and not be dealing with lookie loos into next week!

considering we already have 7 showings scheduled over Saturday and Sunday, before the listing is even up on MLS/realtor.com, I don't think we are going to have a problem with interest.

talked to 2 movers today for quotes on hiring somebody. My assumption is that the price will be so high that I will have heart palpitations, and even though we swore off ever doing it again, I will be getting a big Uhaul and hiring some guys to do the heavy loading work and driving it myself. Probably twice to get enough space (I still don't have a handle on how much room our stuff will take up).

the 1st guy charges by the pound, so that could make the purge or keep around decision easier. Looking at a box and deciding to worry about getting rid of it at the new place makes even less sense if it is going to cost $30 (guessing at that) to move it!

quite possible I take a truckload anyway when I go up to close on the place.

snakeweasel · June 2022

graphicguy said:

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:
Still in the honeymoon stage, but having had numerous sports/muscle cars over the last decade, I think I bought the Accord Hybrid at the exact right time.

First, while not fast by any stretch, it does handle well and is reasonably spry. Love the EV torque off the line.

It brakes consistently well, and very predictably. For electronic steering, it gives good feedback.

It rides as well as any luxury car I’ve ridden in lately (friends’ XT6, 540i, E350). It’s probably quieter than any of them, too. Soaks up road imperfections as well as anything I’ve ever driven.

All the tech works, which is saying something given the horror stories I’ve heard about others’ experiences recently.

It’s screwed together as well as anything I’ve been in….EVER! Materials and build quality are superb. Feels solid as a vault.

Great seats that rival those in the super comfy seats in my previous TLX.

Mid 40s MPG. And, it runs on RUG instead of PUG. Thinking I’m saving $100-$150/mo between the lower cost of RUG and the doubling of MPG over the TLX. That’s a win-win-win!

No “start/stop” shudders….NONE!

Downsides….

-It’s not like I’m unique in every day driving. I see at least 4-5-6 other Accords on the road, every day. The TLX A-Spec was probably 2-3/week sighting around here…if that.

-As good as the stereo is, it ain’t the ELS in the TLS, which is the best I’ve ever heard, in any car, at any price.

-It understeers. Not a huge deal. But, it’s noticeable.

-Not going to win many stop light wars, although last night I dusted an Infiniti G35. Granted, the G35 had mods that probably hindered everything about its performance. Still, it was satisfying to pull up at the next light and grin at the G35’s driver. I can make quick work of Malibus, LeSabres, 4 cyl Camrys, Altimas, etc. Not proud of that. Just a fact! LOL!

Won’t last forever, but I could probably sell it for more than I paid for it right now. Moreover, there are no new Accords available anywhere within a 50 mile radius of me. Good luck finding a Hybrid version anywhere in the foreseeable future.
When I think of hybrids I now think of my sisters Prius that at 12 years of age is now a brick sitting in her driveway. Hybrid batteries are dead and the car won't start without them. Now to get the car running we have to put more into the car than the car is worth.

Maybe we should just blow it up.
One of my good friends has a first gen Camry Hybrid, bought new, with 150K+ miles. She just replaced the battery in it (~$3K). But, her maintenance on it has been close to nil. So, aside from consumables, which every car has, and oil changes, that’s been the extent of maintenance.

If memory serves, the Camry gave more than ample warnings and reminders to have the batteries serviced….kind of like reminding you to change the oil in a totally ICE car. Did your sister have any warning about impending service requirements?

Personally, although not something I thought I’d be driving, I’m really enjoying the heck out of mine.

I do know there are many, many taxi fleets using Priuses, with multiples of 100s of thousands of miles. Anecdotal about their longevity but worth noting, nonetheless.

OK as for your friends Camry most these day can easily go 150K with minimal maintenance.

As for my sisters car giving warnings well that is one that I cannot answer.

As for taxis, yes they have 100's of thousands of miles but how many times have their batteries been replaced?

snakeweasel · June 2022

stickguy said:
after a massive organizing and cleaning flurry last night, we got the house ready for pictures which happened today. We at least made our agent very happy. she was impressed (and frankly shocked based on what it looked like a week ago) about how well it came out. Even the photographer complimented it and said he didn't have to do any work on it (moving stuff to stage, etc.)

now just need him to get the pictures to the agent so she can load them. If not tonight hopefully by tomorrow morning so more people can see it and request showings this weekend. because I really want this over with by Sunday night and not be dealing with lookie loos into next week!

considering we already have 7 showings scheduled over Saturday and Sunday, before the listing is even up on MLS/realtor.com, I don't think we are going to have a problem with interest.

talked to 2 movers today for quotes on hiring somebody. My assumption is that the price will be so high that I will have heart palpitations, and even though we swore off ever doing it again, I will be getting a big Uhaul and hiring some guys to do the heavy loading work and driving it myself. Probably twice to get enough space (I still don't have a handle on how much room our stuff will take up).

the 1st guy charges by the pound, so that could make the purge or keep around decision easier. Looking at a box and deciding to worry about getting rid of it at the new place makes even less sense if it is going to cost $30 (guessing at that) to move it!

quite possible I take a truckload anyway when I go up to close on the place.

The first guy charges by the pound? So he weighs everything as he moves it? Does he bring his own scale or do you have to provide one.

explorerx4 · June 2022

We got a moving estimate by the pound. He said my extension ladder was 150 lbs and our patio table 300 lbs.
My neighbor and I brought the table up from the ground floor to the deck on 2nd level fairly easily, 300 lbs is way off. Same for the ladder.

tjc78 · June 2022

@stickguy
I’d bet you have a full tractor trailer load in your home depending how much furniture you are bringing with you.

For reference. Our old 4 bed rancher with basement took two 26’ box trucks without master bedroom and living room furniture. Also an Enclave, RAV4 and an S60 lol.

I can’t remember how the movers quoted it, but it was around $2,000 with an overnight storage. I also had to rent the additional truck adding a few bucks

andres3 · June 2022

driver100 said:

ab348 said:
Don't know if that is true. Anyone's cats show similar behavior?
Our previous dog Gigi would watch 4 legged animals on TV, ones that resembled dogs. Trixie watches TV a lot, she constantly checks to see if there is an animal or bird on...and she runs up to the screen and barks at them. She knows several commercials by the sound of them, especially the same Telus commercial and one for Pet Smart. She can also make out cartoon animals, and she gets excited at the Toilet Paper Bears promoting Charmin. I don't think all animals, cats or dogs do this, but I think it requires a certain amount of intelligence to take a picture on TV and think that it is real......for animals, not so much for humans though.

I would say the opposite; that it takes intelligence to know that the image on the TV isn't real; it's just light projection from an electronic source (plasma, LCD, projection lightbulbs). It might just be they trust their great sense of smell over their eyes.

I haven't done enough experimentation with my pet dogs yet to say for sure, but I think the Dog TV channel did capture our French Bulldog's attention for like a minute or 2.

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