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28firefighter · June 2022

At the rate I’m going my rear tires will last about a month.

Michaell · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
Hey qbrozen,
You've gotten vehicles shipped. Do you use a particular service? Thx.
Got a quote to ship the Mustang from CT to OH, $820. Seems expensive.

Paging @breld - he’s shipped a couple of cars in the past few years.

jmonroe1 · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
Hey qbrozen,
You've gotten vehicles shipped. Do you use a particular service? Thx.
Got a quote to ship the Mustang from CT to OH, $820. Seems expensive.

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I’m betting @oldfarmer50 can beat that price.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · June 2022

@jmonroe1,
Is he going to push by by hand?

28firefighter · June 2022

Given the cost of gas that seems about right.

Recommend checking uShip as well.

jmonroe1 · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
@jmonroe1,
Is he going to push by by hand?

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If that’s the only way he’s going to get your business, yeah.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · June 2022

@28firefighter,
That's who I got a quote from. There may have been multiple shipper options.

corvette · June 2022

@explorerx4 - but you’d be missing out on a beautiful and scenic road trip by having it shipped!

explorerx4 · June 2022

@corvette,
I will be taking the 'beautiful scenic road trip' in another vehicle that can actually make it to the end.

corvette · June 2022

The search for a temporary vehicle is pretty brutal… Hoovie’s friend EuroAsian Bob has a “clean” Honda Pilot for sale that has the paint on the roof starting to peel. $14k. O.o

xwesx · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
Hey qbrozen,
You've gotten vehicles shipped. Do you use a particular service? Thx.
Got a quote to ship the Mustang from CT to OH, $820. Seems expensive.

When are you looking to move it?

oldfarmer50 · June 2022

jmonroe1 said:

explorerx4 said:
Hey qbrozen,
You've gotten vehicles shipped. Do you use a particular service? Thx.
Got a quote to ship the Mustang from CT to OH, $820. Seems expensive.
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I’m betting @oldfarmer50 can beat that price.

jmonroe

By at least a dollar!

oldfarmer50 · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
@corvette,
I will be taking the 'beautiful scenic road trip' in another vehicle that can actually make it to the end.

I thought you just had the transmission rebuilt and the oil leaks fixed? What else could go wrong?

How many miles is the trip?

tjc78 · June 2022

@explorerx4 said:
@28firefighter,
That's who I got a quote from. There may have been multiple shipper options.

Uhaul trailer? Your Explorer should be able to pull it, right?

oldfarmer50 · June 2022

corvette said:
The search for a temporary vehicle is pretty brutal… Hoovie’s friend EuroAsian Bob has a “clean” Honda Pilot for sale that has the paint on the roof starting to peel. $14k. O.o

I was looking at compact trucks again on CL today. I left in tears.

jmonroe1 · June 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:
@corvette,
I will be taking the 'beautiful scenic road trip' in another vehicle that can actually make it to the end.
I thought you just had the transmission rebuilt and the oil leaks fixed? What else could go wrong?

How many miles is the trip?

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Well, you know what they say about Ford’s.

jmonroe

roadburner · June 2022

@oldfarmer50 said:
That’s my favorite BMW color. I think my company only buys black ones.

It looks like Sunset Orange in the photographs but the color is actually Sakhir Orange. The paint contains gold flakes and it really pops in the sunlight.

roadburner · June 2022

@corvette said:
Maybe it's just the lighting or angle, but the aspect ratio on the tires on that M4 looks to be near zero.

The wheels are 20”- 9” wide in the front, 10” in the rear; the OEM Competition package fitment.

corvette · June 2022

roadburner said:
The wheels are 20”- 9” wide in the front, 10” in the rear; the OEM Competition package fitment.

A website I found says they have an aspect ratio of 30--I was thinking 25 or 30 from the photo!

explorerx4 · June 2022

Trip is about 600 miles. Car has an iffy cooling system and 14 year old tires.
Explorer is rated to tow 5300 lbs. UHaul trailer weighs 2200 and car is about 3500, so over the limit.
It could do it, but not legally.

tifighter · June 2022

Congrats to @jpp75 on his auction. Good stuff. And thanks for letting me put a few miles on it, too.

corvette · June 2022

Oh, wow, great result on a great driving truck. I had no idea it had 800+ HP when I drove it. Thanks for the test drive, also! Hope you get to smoke the tires a couple more times before it goes to its new owner.

jmonroe1 · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
Trip is about 600 miles. Car has an iffy cooling system and 14 year old tires.
Explorer is rated to tow 5300 lbs. UHaul trailer weighs 2200 and car is about 3500, so over the limit.
It could do it, but not legally.

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Don’t worry, we ain’t gonna tell.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · June 2022

I don't think UHaul is going to let that fly.

stickguy · June 2022

Farmer, I told you to order a no option Maverick XL back when you still could. Try again in August. won't be quite as cheap though.

Explorer, another reason to pull the trigger on an F150. can use that to tow the Mustang and save some of the cost back!

oldfarmer50 · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
Trip is about 600 miles. Car has an iffy cooling system and 14 year old tires.
Explorer is rated to tow 5300 lbs. UHaul trailer weighs 2200 and car is about 3500, so over the limit.
It could do it, but not legally.

I’ve done 600 miles in a day at work but not if the vehicle will overheat.

My Corvette would start to overheat in traffic on a hot day but was fine cruising at highway speeds. What do you think, partially clogged radiator?

stickguy · June 2022

tifighter said:
Congrats to @jpp75 on his auction. Good stuff. And thanks for letting me put a few miles on it, too.

seems to be the going price. BaT had a couple like it just end at 119,000 so market seems clear.

oldfarmer50 · June 2022

stickguy said:
Farmer, I told you to order a no option Maverick XL back when you still could. Try again in August. won't be quite as cheap though.

Explorer, another reason to pull the trigger on an F150. can use that to tow the Mustang and save some of the cost back!

If they made it with a standard cab and a 6 foot bed I might pull the trigger but a guy at work just got one and it had a $2k ADM.

I just can’t bring myself to get taken like that.

nyccarguy · June 2022

@jpp75 is buying drinks for everyone! Congrats my man! And congrats to all you Colorado Avalanche fans on a well won Stanley Cup.

xwesx · June 2022

explorerx4 said:
Trip is about 600 miles. Car has an iffy cooling system and 14 year old tires.
Explorer is rated to tow 5300 lbs. UHaul trailer weighs 2200 and car is about 3500, so over the limit.
It could do it, but not legally.

I don't remember when you said the house would be ready. I'll be down at our Ohio place for about five-six weeks in Aug/Sept. I'd be happy to have an excuse to make a quick trip and haul it for you at cost of fuel. Granted, nowadays, that's still spendy if fuel keeps trending this direction, but I'm sure it's not $800+ for under 1,200 miles.

nyccarguy · June 2022

@xwesx said:
I don't remember when you said the house would be ready. I'll be down at our Ohio place for about five-six weeks in Aug/Sept. I'd be happy to have an excuse to make a quick trip and haul it for you at cost of fuel. Granted, nowadays, that's still spendy if fuel keeps trending this direction, but I'm sure it's not $800+ for under 1,200 miles.

And he’ll probably fix the iffy cooling system when he gets it there!

nyccarguy · June 2022

@xwesx said:
I don't remember when you said the house would be ready. I'll be down at our Ohio place for about five-six weeks in Aug/Sept. I'd be happy to have an excuse to make a quick trip and haul it for you at cost of fuel. Granted, nowadays, that's still spendy if fuel keeps trending this direction, but I'm sure it's not $800+ for under 1,200 miles.

Wow! That’s an incredibly generous offer of your time.

stickguy · June 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
Farmer, I told you to order a no option Maverick XL back when you still could. Try again in August. won't be quite as cheap though.

Explorer, another reason to pull the trigger on an F150. can use that to tow the Mustang and save some of the cost back!
If they made it with a standard cab and a 6 foot bed I might pull the trigger but a guy at work just got one and it had a $2k ADM.

I just can’t bring myself to get taken like that.

most dealers are selling orders at MSRP. buying out of stock, prices vary quite a bit.

can't help you with the smaller bed! I doubt they are ever making a standard cab long bed though. I would not mind a cab and a half like the old ranger, with an extra foot in the bed though.

corvette · June 2022

I keep seeing VW ads that tout lower cost of maintenance than Toyota, Honda, and Subaru. Honda and Subaru, I understand (VW gives you 2 years/20k of free maintenance and those don't), but Toyota also includes 2 years/25k of maintenance, so I'm not sure how VW is cheaper than free over a longer mileage period?

stickguy · June 2022

Here's one for old farmer. An old school poverty worktruck special!

I never knew these came in a manual. If I did not already have a truck, I would take a look at it. But if somebody else wanted it, would be happy to do a recon!

https://www.royalmotorsnj.com/details-2015-chevrolet-colorado-2wd_ext_cab_128_3_-used-1gchs1ea0f1215868.html

graphicguy · June 2022

roadburner said:
I found another M4 Comp; a 2019 one owner with 24k miles and a full dealer service history. The price is borderline reasonable. Might check it out next weekend.

I really like the color!

jmonroe1 said:

@graphicguy said:

I really like the color!

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Yes, that is a nice color.

I have an idea. Since you live relatively close, go over there and buy it out from under him. That otta teach him a lesson not to dilly-dally about buying when the price is good enough; especially these days.

jmonroe

I like the idea….except, RB has legal clout. If I did that, I’d probably have to change my name and wear hoodies to hide my identity.

jmonroe1 · June 2022

graphicguy said:

roadburner said:
I found another M4 Comp; a 2019 one owner with 24k miles and a full dealer service history. The price is borderline reasonable. Might check it out next weekend.

I really like the color!
jmonroe1 said:

@graphicguy said:

I really like the color!

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Yes, that is a nice color.

I have an idea. Since you live relatively close, go over there and buy it out from under him. That otta teach him a lesson not to dilly-dally about buying when the price is good enough; especially these days.

jmonroe

I like the idea….except, RB has legal clout. If I did that, I’d probably have to change my name and wear hoodies to hide my identity.
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You’ve gotta think of what that will do for your status in here. We’ll do everything we can to protect you.

jmonroe

henryn · June 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
Farmer, I told you to order a no option Maverick XL back when you still could. Try again in August. won't be quite as cheap though.

Explorer, another reason to pull the trigger on an F150. can use that to tow the Mustang and save some of the cost back!
If they made it with a standard cab and a 6 foot bed I might pull the trigger but a guy at work just got one and it had a $2k ADM.

I just can’t bring myself to get taken like that.

I understand your feelings about being taken, I have some of the same thoughts myself. But based on what I have seen / read, this story doesn't quite sound right. Before they closed the orders for 2022 models, there were at least 2 Ford dealers nearby who would place an order at MSRP, no markup.

Locally, no models (zero, zip, zilch) ever showed up on dealer lots for sale. And from what I've read, any that did show up (in other locales) were priced way above MSRP, as in only $2k markup would be an absolute fantastic unheard of bargain.

jpp75 · June 2022

Thanks @tifighter @corvette and @nyccarguy!

Obviously I'm quite happy with how the auction turned out. Based on some activity in May and early June I was expecting $110k to be the absolute top but a very pleasant surprise to see it go a little higher.

I will say in my limited time with the truck I feel Rivian did a great job. The fit and finish was much better than the Tesla I owned and the interior was top notch. Had the market been different I would have enjoyed keeping it but I suspect the lack of charging infrastructure would have been an issue.

Fortunately I'm still happy with the Defender, for an impulse purchase on a Friday afternoon it's turned into one of my favorite cars I've owned. Too bad it's a Land Rover and has a useful life of maybe 40 - 50k miles. I'm pushing 17k now so I figure I'm about halfway through with it.

qbrozen · June 2022

@oldfarmer50 , shiply.com has gotten me the best rates. Just pick someone with good feedback already. And you have to give it at least 24 hrs to wait for bids to drop. They always start high hoping you’ll jump on one too soon.

For towing, you can also rent a dolly that gives you far more leeway with the weight. Of course they’ll tell you that you can only tow a FWD car that way, but that’s BS. Either tow it backwards with the steering locked OR remove the driveshaft and tow it front wheels up.

stickguy · June 2022

Is it Corvette with the Maverick order? In case you haven’t been scheduled yet (and these days you have to call dealer or Ford to find out, they don’t automatically tell you). I’m fine with it, as long as I can make config changes and get put at head of the line!

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/this-is-the-e-mail-coming-at-3pm-today-6-29-to-unscheduled-order-holders.17098/

corvette · June 2022

Thanks, @stickguy ! Yes, mine is unscheduled, so far as I know. Granger Ford says their dealership received 58 allocations for June but only one has been assigned a VIN.

Weirdly, the alleged email does not promise that you will receive priority if you convert to a 2023 order.

xwesx · June 2022

nyccarguy said:

Wow! That’s an incredibly generous offer of your time.

This kind of stuff is both fun and satisfying for me. Heck, I drove that far just to pick up my trailer (in NC) last summer!

Anyway, @explorerx4 , if you're interested and the timing works, just reach out. We can coordinate it privately. My Q7 is fully prepped for towing and won't have any problem pulling your Mustang on a U-Haul carrier. I even have my EZpass units (one for trailer and one without!) on standby, and lord knows they don't get much use....

xwesx · June 2022

corvette said:
Thanks, @stickguy ! Yes, mine is unscheduled, so far as I know. Granger Ford says their dealership received 58 allocations for June but only one has been assigned a VIN.

Weirdly, the alleged email does not promise that you will receive priority if you convert to a 2023 order.

That's the one hiccup I see with it as well. Anyone holding a 22 reservation that converts should get BOTH the discount AND priority build.

corvette · June 2022

I got the email, but Gmail, in its infinite wisdom, put it in my spam folder. The other Ford emails have come through fine.

stickguy · June 2022

I just got it too. Ford is not great about saying things clearly. But expectations from experts is that they will be doing something to prioritize. either somehow linking the orders to carry over the old order date, or giving us an earlier window (so they can track them that way).

in any case, I highly doubt I am seeing my hybrid before Christmas at this point. but nobody really knows at this point. I just hope I can switch trim levels and get a Lariat instead of XLT (unless they add features I want to the XLT I have on order).

I am going in for an oil change Friday to the dealer I bought it at, so will wander over and talk to a sales manager though entirely possible they have no clue yet either.

oldfarmer50 · June 2022

stickguy said:
Here's one for old farmer. An old school poverty worktruck special!

I never knew these came in a manual. If I did not already have a truck, I would take a look at it. But if somebody else wanted it, would be happy to do a recon!

https://www.royalmotorsnj.com/details-2015-chevrolet-colorado-2wd_ext_cab_128_3_-used-1gchs1ea0f1215868.html

Actually that’s not bad. I see some much older Rangers go for a lot more. I can’t remember if I ever drove a Colorado at work but a former coworker traded a big F-250 in on one.

jmonroe1 · June 2022

corvette said:
Thanks, @stickguy ! Yes, mine is unscheduled, so far as I know. Granger Ford says their dealership received 58 allocations for June but only one has been assigned a VIN.

Weirdly, the alleged email does not promise that you will receive priority if you convert to a 2023 order.

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Geeze, some guys want everything. They said you get some sort of a discount. Are you hoping for a promise to go to the head of the line for the 2023 model if you decide to go that route AND get a discount. If so let us know how that goes.

Good luck.

jmonroe

stickguy · June 2022

Yes we get both. Saw it confirmed that orders just roll over and keep original date. Mines already been in for 8 months. Can easily hit 14-15 by the time it arrives!

Pricing doesn’t carry over. The kickback from ford is basically intended to offset that.

explorerx4 · June 2022

@xwesx,
That is an extremely generous offer on your part.
I don't yet have a firm date on when our new house will close, so it's tough to plan anything.
Our current house should close in about 6 weeks.
A U-Haul double axle car carrier is about $500 one way.
Just for you to drive form Erie to Farmington to North Ridgeville and back to Erie is at least 1200 miles.
Even at 20 mpg, with diesel about $6 a gallon, that's over $350 in fuel costs.
Of course, that would be totally inadequate recompense for your effort.
I'm going to get some more shipping quotes as things firm up.

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