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@qbrozen - so much room for activities!!
Yeah the wheel surprised me. Seems too small in this vehicle.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
For what it’s worth, I’m not feeling the usual tinge of “was this the right choice?” that I normally would have at this point. The last time that happened (the GTI) I held it for nearly 3 years.
Seems a shame to have that kind of acceleration and not use it.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
CCA drive to Whidbey Island today. Highlight for me was this 850i manual with 77k miles. The condition was <chef’s kiss>.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
@qbrozen - so poster buddies can borrow this Sprinter for road trips as long as we leave you something to drive?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
You live close enough to try it so why not? If you return without too many lumps others close by might want to brazen that idea too,
jmonroe
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Looking for a buyer for the Jeep. Was not a good day. Will try again when I return from my biz trip this week. Of course, then I only have 3 days before leaving for SC for 2 weeks.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
That sounds like a nice end of summer trip. Perfect timing for the Sprinter.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Looking for a buyer for the Jeep. Was not a good day. Will try again when I return from my biz trip this week. Of course, then I only have 3 days before leaving for SC for 2 weeks.
Do you think the bubble is finally coming down or are dealers just afraid of paying too much in case it does?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Road tests at the time show a 0-60 of 5.2 secs and 31MPG combined with the hybrid system and the ability to travel 37 miles on electric alone. One drawback is the premium required for the 2.0L turbo motor and some testers felt the engine was a bit thrashy for a Cadillac.
https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g15201984/2017-cadillac-ct6-plug-in-hybrid-instrumented-test-gallery/?slide=72
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
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The XTS was based on the LaCrosse/Impala platform.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
I think the latter. MMR data is not supporting the lower prices these dealers are offering.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Not easy to remove seats. But no rule against cargo sitting on the seats.
2 adults, 2 teens, 2 labs, and a bird make the trip.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The CT6 was the only vehicle to make production on that platform. Given that and the Blackwing V8 that they developed for it, the development costs they incurred must have been staggering, especially given the small numbers produced.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
IIRC the hybrid CT6 was one of the upper trims, base price around 75K. I remember we test drove one at the time the model was launched, I forget the powertrain - I just recall the "virtual" rear view mirror. He could probably do a big part of his round trip commute on that electric range.
Correct, the Ct6 was a completely different vehicle and the only one made on Omega. I’m not 100% sure but I’d assume that the Omega has roots in the Alpha which is what your ATS rides on.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Not easy to remove seats. But no rule against cargo sitting on the seats.
2 adults, 2 teens, 2 labs, and a bird make the trip.
We have crammed three adults, two kids, small dog and two cats with all the gear in the XC. Of course it’s a much much shorter trip and you aren’t seeing out the back window at all.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Wait - the seats aren’t easily removed or shuffled? Why?
Maybe he was almost out of gas!
I’m guessing the answer is “because German engineering.”
But I do try to be polite about this. Whenever a car is behind me, I try to move over if possible, or if not pull off the road completely to let them by. Generally there's not much traffic on the roads where I go for these leisurely drives.
Life isn't always about being in a hurry. Sometimes, yes, it is, but not always.
Maybe he was almost out of gas!
I’m guessing the answer is “because German engineering.”
"It is impossible!" (in a German accent), meaning, "that's how we designed it and we will not change".
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Last time down, we did 2 adults, 2 teens, and 2 labs with all luggage in the Wrangler. I was rather impressed but I’m told the passengers weren’t too thrilled. Haha.
As for the seats, I dunno. What do y’all consider easy? If you ever had an old body-on-frame van, you know how it works. They don’t fold, they come out in one big piece. If you want the rearmost bench out, you have to unbolt the seatbelts first, so that’s an added step.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Far too much work to unbolt everything, sitting the stuff on the seats would be much easier. There must be a little cargo room behind the last row, right?
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
On a slightly related topic, that's one of the key features on my Pacifica. The middle seats fold down into the floor and disappear. With the Toyota or Honda minivans, you have to find somewhere to store the seats after you remove them, and there is also the matter of the mounting rail still there in your way.
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Massive room behind it.
I think maybe 30-36” deep and of course 6’4” high and whatever the heck the width is. So figure 75’ish cubic feet behind the 4th row. Find that in another passenger vehicle. Ha
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
You’ll be super comfortable on your trip. You have the Escape down there for cruising around town, right?
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Massive room behind it.
I think maybe 30-36” deep and of course 6’4” high and whatever the heck the width is. So figure 75’ish cubic feet behind the 4th row. Find that in another passenger vehicle. Ha
I think "passenger vehicle" might be a bit of a misnomer. "Bus" might be a more appropriate term.
The middle row seats that folded into the floor was the ONLY thing Son #1 liked about his troublesome ‘08 Town and Country. That feature was way better than the ‘16 Kia Van that replaced it that had the middle row captan’s chairs that just slid forward against the front seats. You couldn’t get a 4 x 8 sheet of plywood in it doing that but the space you picked up doing that was OK, just not as usable as the Town and Country.
Just to get a reaction from him, the few times we had to take the seats out of the Kia altogether, I told him he should have bought another Chrysler van. He quickly jumped at that comment saying, “and I’ll let you take it to the shop every time you turn around”.
I could never understand why none of the other van builders ever had the middle row seats that folded into the floor. As much money that Chrysler needed over the years, it couldn’t be their refusal to sell the patent. Must be something else.
jmonroe
Ran out to my coworker’s condo this morning because he had a flat. It was debeaded, so the air pump I brought was useless. I also brought my breaker bar and a set of sockets.
Me: do you have a spare tire?
Him: No.
Me: uses one of my free AAA tows to get him to a Goodyear that is open on Sundays. I didn’t stay for further festivities, but it apparently took the tow truck almost two hours to get there.
Then I picked up some grass seed and rinsed the mud out of the bed of the truck.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
This weekend we made a couple of trips that were about an hour each way. Took the Wrangler both times and nobody complained about sitting in the middle.
Yesterday we went to my parent’s house and I wanted to bring the bikes so my kids could ride around the neighborhood with my nieces. No hitch on the Highlander, so we took the Jeep. Plugs and ports in the back kept them busy. No complaints.
This AM, we drive to Long Island to go sneaker shopping. I was planning on taking the Highlander, but the kids walked into the garage and got right in the Jeep. Again, no arguing over who sat in the middle. When we take the Highlander anywhere, there is always an argument over who has to sit in the 3rd row.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Hell, a bus is a passenger vehicle. ;b
@tjc78 , no, I sold that to my brother when his Quest died and he was in need. It will be a bit troublesome for our trip to have to use the Sprinter for around town.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Hell, a bus is a passenger vehicle. ;b
@tjc78 , no, I sold that to my brother when his Quest died and he was in need. It will be a bit troublesome for our trip to have to use the Sprinter for around town.
Tow your Wrangler down with the Sprinter.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
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The kiddo has a very wide foot so only a couple of brands fit well, Adidas and New Balance. That, however, did not stop him from talking mom into $300 worth of Nike’s ordered on line this weekend.
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha