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Michaell · June 2023

fintail said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:
@fintail
You are a true traditionalist. That brown one needs something to liven it up!
For some things, less is more. I still prefer my MB sedans with formal grilles and hood ornaments too, so there's that.

Well, the blue does a lot more for it than that dead brown color. I still think they need a bit of pizzaz to set them off, and not look so formal.

The brown is better than black anyway. A black G is like a Russian mafia cliche almost to the point of humor.

It's a tough line on those - they look too blingy with shiny stuff, and ridiculous with too much black trim faux sport stuff.

I saw a G in that blue color @fintail prefers, on my way back from the vet this afternoon. Had black wheels, however.

driver100 · June 2023

Michaell said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:
@fintail
You are a true traditionalist. That brown one needs something to liven it up!
For some things, less is more. I still prefer my MB sedans with formal grilles and hood ornaments too, so there's that.

Well, the blue does a lot more for it than that dead brown color. I still think they need a bit of pizzaz to set them off, and not look so formal.

The brown is better than black anyway. A black G is like a Russian mafia cliche almost to the point of humor.

It's a tough line on those - they look too blingy with shiny stuff, and ridiculous with too much black trim faux sport stuff.

I saw a G in that blue color @fintail prefers, on my way back from the vet this afternoon. Had black wheels, however.

Mercedes doesn't use nice blues too often. Funny, KIA and Hyundai get some of the more unique colors, and probably don't charge a lot extra for certain paints.

laurasdada · June 2023

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Will you guys take it easy when you rent our cars!

This is why you do not rent cars out to the Fantastic Four.

It's a Stellantis product; this is simply what it looks like after 3 months of ownership...

laurasdada · June 2023

roadburner said:

imidazol97 said:
I was looking at some classic car clubs and their schedules for large get togethers.

I wish I was in Spokane... the Buick Club of America has their national meet there
starting July 12. AT least the Oldsmobile Car Club nationals is in Dayton at the Mariott
in August.

I just went to a GM only show last Saturday and it was great: Buick,
Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Cadillac were the brands invited along with their lower models such as Lasalle, Oakland, and I forget the other two related models that were were invited. No
Chevies and thus no Corvettes--refreshing compared to the usual GM show.

I'm so tired of seeing cars that have had different wheels, or colors, or engines
put into what could have been cars restored to their original state. These cars
were all great. About 75-80 cars I'd estimate.
Come down to the Keeneland Concours d’Elegance on July 15. Cadillac is the featured marque. My Club Sport will be entered in the Youngtimers class.

Thanks for the link, it looks like a beautiful event! I'll put it on my retirement, follow the car shows/auctions event list.
I started to look at the class winners from '22. After ~ 8 slides, I realized that I hadn't noted the cars as I was distracted by the young ladies presenting the trophies... ich bin eine dirty old man. Great.
I started again, by George, the cars were fab too!

And, for those with garage space, Cayman raffle; only 1500 tickets to be sold...

jmonroe1 · June 2023

@Michaell said:
I saw a G in that blue color @fintail prefers, on my way back from the vet this afternoon. Had black wheels, however.

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The vet? What happened? Did you swallow a bone?

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · June 2023

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:
@fintail
You are a true traditionalist. That brown one needs something to liven it up!
For some things, less is more. I still prefer my MB sedans with formal grilles and hood ornaments too, so there's that.

Well, the blue does a lot more for it than that dead brown color. I still think they need a bit of pizzaz to set them off, and not look so formal.

The brown is better than black anyway. A black G is like a Russian mafia cliche almost to the point of humor.

It's a tough line on those - they look too blingy with shiny stuff, and ridiculous with too much black trim faux sport stuff.

I saw a G in that blue color @fintail prefers, on my way back from the vet this afternoon. Had black wheels, however.
Mercedes doesn't use nice blues too often. Funny, KIA and Hyundai get some of the more unique colors, and probably don't charge a lot extra for certain paints.

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They get some unique customers too.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 · June 2023

roadburner said:
When I worked at BMW a girl returned a 3er loaner that had a bullet hole in the passenger door.

You mean like this:

oldfarmer50 · June 2023

stickguy said:
speaking of trucks, I found a rare OF poverty special locally.

I did look at specs. The regular cab 6.5' bed is actually not super long. only 209".

https://www.morrisford.com/api/legacy/pse/windowsticker/ford?vin=1FTMF1CB9NKF26156&dealerCode=03990&postalCode=12027&status=NEW&accountId=morrisfordfd

I wonder when they got that. When I was there a month ago the salesman said they never got those on the lot unless they were special ordered. I guess what I looking for was the 8’ bed. Strange they got a 6.5’ bed since the longer bed was a fairly cheap option.

jmonroe1 · June 2023

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:
When I worked at BMW a girl returned a 3er loaner that had a bullet hole in the passenger door.
You mean like this:

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That looks like it was outgoing.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · June 2023

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
speaking of trucks, I found a rare OF poverty special locally.

I did look at specs. The regular cab 6.5' bed is actually not super long. only 209".

https://www.morrisford.com/api/legacy/pse/windowsticker/ford?vin=1FTMF1CB9NKF26156&dealerCode=03990&postalCode=12027&status=NEW&accountId=morrisfordfd
I wonder when they got that. When I was there a month ago the salesman said they never got those on the lot unless they were special ordered. I guess what I looking for was the 8’ bed. Strange they got a 6.5’ bed since the longer bed was a fairly cheap option.

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More than likely, a minimally optioned, 8 foot bed only appeals to guys in the trades. Whereas a 6 1/2 foot bed, with some options, has a better chance of appealing to folks that want to sit up high and pretend they’re driving a real pickup.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · June 2023

I saw this one on the lot the other day. Has a few options, V8 and 36 gallon tank.
https://www.mikebassford.net/inventory/new-2023-ford-f-150-xl-4x2-regular-cab-1ftmf1c51pke40109/

jmonroe1 · June 2023

explorerx4 said:
I saw this one on the lot the other day. Has a few options, V8 and 36 gallon tank.
https://www.mikebassford.net/inventory/new-2023-ford-f-150-xl-4x2-regular-cab-1ftmf1c51pke40109/

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I’m sure they show it somewhere but I can’t find the bed size. That should be front and center, at least shown under Basic Info section.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · June 2023

@jmonroe1,
You can look at the pictures or click on the window sticker button.
It's an 8 footer.

stickguy · June 2023

surprised they don't show bed length on the window sticker, just wheelbase. but that is the long WB and the picture looks like a long bed so I assumed 8', but buried in the details it says 78". so maybe it just looks long because not used to seeing a standard cab?

and pet peeve, I hate trucks with huge wheel wells, with small wheels. Looks odd to me, like it has a donut on or something!

explorerx4 · June 2023

I'm pretty sure it's an 8 foot bed. I walked around it.

stickguy · June 2023

it has to be. if you added another 1.5' to that it would look like a roll-back truck.

it is weird though they don't tell you.

stickguy · June 2023

I must be slipping in my old age. I had a reminder in my phone for last week and must have missed it, because my last XM promo expired today. I have CC notices set for any online charges so noticed the monthly hit for XM went way up (something like $12 to $31). So on the phone to do the negotiations, and a few minutes later, back to $12 or so. Not quite as cheap as it used to be but I can live with it!

declined adding my Maverick (currently on free trial) to the plan and having it automatically renew on the same monthly discount, since I assume I will get a better off-trial offer in a couple of month.

jmonroe1 · June 2023

explorerx4 said:
I'm pretty sure it's an 8 foot bed. I walked around it.

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I’m pretty sure they didn’t say that. And don’t tell me I can figure it out from the dimensions given. I ain’t good at math.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · June 2023

stickguy said:
I must be slipping in my old age. I had a reminder in my phone for last week and must have missed it, because my last XM promo expired today. I have CC notices set for any online charges so noticed the monthly hit for XM went way up (something like $12 to $31). So on the phone to do the negotiations, and a few minutes later, back to $12 or so. Not quite as cheap as it used to be but I can live with it!

declined adding my Maverick (currently on free trial) to the plan and having it automatically renew on the same monthly discount, since I assume I will get a better off-trial offer in a couple of month.

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You just confirmed why I don’t give them my CC. I’d much rather make the yearly call and do the dance.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · June 2023

@jmonroe1,
I've had trucks with 5 1/2, 6 1/2 and 8 foot beds, so maybe it's easier for me to tell which one it is just by looking at it.
157" WB with single can gives it away, too.

abacomike · June 2023

Got PET-CT SCAN results - NO TUMORS OR CANCER! The ultrasound results were an anomaly. I can breathe a sigh of 😅 relief.

jmonroe1 · June 2023

explorerx4 said:
@jmonroe1,
I've had trucks with 5 1/2, 6 1/2 and 8 foot beds, so maybe it's easier for me to tell which one it is just by looking at it.
157" WB with single can gives it away, too.

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I’ve never owned any size pickup so WB dimensions don’t mean anything to me. Therefore, it’s not easier for me to tell one from another.

I guess you can say experiene IS the best teacher.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · June 2023

abacomike said:
Got PET-CT SCAN results - NO TUMORS OR CANCER! The ultrasound results were an anomaly. I can breathe a sigh of 😅 relief.

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That’s the best news you could have given us. Go break out your best bottle of bourbon. We’ll hurry on down to celebrate with you.

jmonroe

stickguy · June 2023

abacomike said:
Got PET-CT SCAN results - NO TUMORS OR CANCER! The ultrasound results were an anomaly. I can breathe a sigh of 😅 relief.

good news! You really are indestructible!

Michaell · June 2023

abacomike said:
Got PET-CT SCAN results - NO TUMORS OR CANCER! The ultrasound results were an anomaly. I can breathe a sigh of 😅 relief.

Awesome news, Mike!

fintail · June 2023

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:
@fintail
You are a true traditionalist. That brown one needs something to liven it up!
For some things, less is more. I still prefer my MB sedans with formal grilles and hood ornaments too, so there's that.

Well, the blue does a lot more for it than that dead brown color. I still think they need a bit of pizzaz to set them off, and not look so formal.

The brown is better than black anyway. A black G is like a Russian mafia cliche almost to the point of humor.

It's a tough line on those - they look too blingy with shiny stuff, and ridiculous with too much black trim faux sport stuff.

I saw a G in that blue color @fintail prefers, on my way back from the vet this afternoon. Had black wheels, however.
Mercedes doesn't use nice blues too often. Funny, KIA and Hyundai get some of the more unique colors, and probably don't charge a lot extra for certain paints.

Is that a real car and color though? Looks concept-y.

The MB color is "China Blue" (a color name from the 70s-80s), a Designo option on certain (but maybe not all) models.

Here it is on an E63 wagon:

oldfarmer50 · June 2023

abacomike said:
Got PET-CT SCAN results - NO TUMORS OR CANCER! The ultrasound results were an anomaly. I can breathe a sigh of 😅 relief.

Wow, that’s great news. I’d be down there at the ultrasound place throwing chairs around for scaring me like that.

explorerx4 · June 2023

@abacomike,
Glad you got negative results from your tests. Given your health history, I'm sure your Dr was just being cautious.

carnaught · June 2023

@abacomike, now you need to be cautious about those spinsters and widows trying to pick you up at Publix Market.

driver100 · June 2023

fintail said:

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

driver100 said:
@fintail
You are a true traditionalist. That brown one needs something to liven it up!
For some things, less is more. I still prefer my MB sedans with formal grilles and hood ornaments too, so there's that.

Well, the blue does a lot more for it than that dead brown color. I still think they need a bit of pizzaz to set them off, and not look so formal.

The brown is better than black anyway. A black G is like a Russian mafia cliche almost to the point of humor.

It's a tough line on those - they look too blingy with shiny stuff, and ridiculous with too much black trim faux sport stuff.

I saw a G in that blue color @fintail prefers, on my way back from the vet this afternoon. Had black wheels, however.
Mercedes doesn't use nice blues too often. Funny, KIA and Hyundai get some of the more unique colors, and probably don't charge a lot extra for certain paints.

Is that a real car and color though? Looks concept-y.

The MB color is "China Blue" (a color name from the 70s-80s), a Designo option on certain (but maybe not all) models.

Here it is on an E63 wagon:

That is a great looking blue, but why not offer it on all models all the time?
I just checked a 2023 C Class....Build your own. The only color offered besides about 5 grays and silvers and black was starling blue metalic which isn't so hot! They don't even offer white apparently.....and most you have to pay extra for....like do they sell you a car without paint if you don't pay for a paint job?

driver100 · June 2023

I don't think the blue KIA is a concept car, but I have seen that blue on other cars....mostly less expensive ones. I think Mercedes thinks it is gauche to use nice colors.

oldfarmer50 · June 2023

Right now my area is experiencing a smoke haze from fires up in Canada. It’s so thick you can actually smell it. How is it up your way driver100?

In good news my younger son just came back from a few days in Las Vegas. It’s notable because of his disability and the fact that he doesn’t leave the house much.

Somebody hacked his debit card and started buying clothes in Singapore causing the bank to freeze his account and with it a big portion of his funds. I had to wire him $500 to tide him over but during the process he won $1000 and then another $1500 in quick succession. The kid has the best luck and the worst luck at the same time.

jmonroe1 · June 2023

@oldfarmer50 said:
Right now my area is experiencing a smoke haze from fires up in Canada. It’s so thick you can actually smell it. How is it up your way driver100?

In good news my younger son just came back from a few days in Las Vegas. It’s notable because of his disability and the fact that he doesn’t leave the house much.

Somebody hacked his debit card and started buying clothes in Singapore causing the bank to freeze his account and with it a big portion of his funds. I had to wire him $500 to tide him over but during the process he won $1000 and then another $1500 in quick succession. The kid has the best luck and the worst luck at the same time.

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Aside from getting your 500 bucks back, what was his first offer of a cut of the winnings?

jmonroe

laurasdada · June 2023

Same here, Massachusetts, OldFarmer. Smokey haze courtesy of Nova Scotia. Better than having the actual wildfires, I suppose.

Worst nightmare: woody, twisty roads on the way home from errands in the M240, I got stuck behind a Prius. Wagon. Brake lights at any hint of a curve in the road.

tjc78 · June 2023

Great news Mike!!!!!

imidazol97 · June 2023

We've had several days of varying levels of smoke from the fires. Today, I can
sort of taste and smell the smoke. But it's nothing like the smell when there
were fires in the western state and Canada.

I await an apology from the Prime Minister. First all that awful cold air from
Canada some times of the year and now the smoke from fires...

roadburner · June 2023

oldfarmer50 said:

abacomike said:
Got PET-CT SCAN results - NO TUMORS OR CANCER! The ultrasound results were an anomaly. I can breathe a sigh of 😅 relief.

Wow, that’s great news. I’d be down there at the ultrasound place throwing chairs around for scaring me like that.

I've had both a false positive and a misdiagnosis- both of which indicated imminent death. It's NOT fun...

driver100 · June 2023

oldfarmer50 said:
Right now my area is experiencing a smoke haze from fires up in Canada. It’s so thick you can actually smell it. How is it up your way driver100?

I.

Oh sure, blame us again, for the fires, for the cold arctic air, for Canada Geese!
btw...you don't complain about our trees when you breathe in oxygen!

We have hazy conditions, and it smells a bit like a campfire around here. Some people are wearing their K95 masks. Do you remember having campfires or bonfires....we sat around and breathed in that smoke for hours? Now they tell us it is full of carcinogens and toxic materials!

We even roasted hot dogs and marshmallows in those campfires!!!!

imidazol97 · June 2023

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:
Right now my area is experiencing a smoke haze from fires up in Canada. It’s so thick you can actually smell it. How is it up your way driver100?

I.
Oh sure, blame us again, for the fires, for the cold arctic air, for Canada Geese!
btw...you don't complain about our trees when you breathe in oxygen!
We have hazy conditions, and it smells a bit like a campfire around here. Some people are wearing their K95 masks. Do you remember having campfires or bonfires....we sat around and breathed in that smoke for hours? Now they tell us it is full of carcinogens and toxic materials! We even roasted hot dogs and marshmallows in those campfires!!!!

I forgot about Canada Geese. On one scrub golf course the owner asked me if I knew how to get rid of the Canada Geese that populated a green that was next to a pond--golfers had to shoot over the pond.
They left an awful mess of droppings over the green and around that area. Terrible.

driver100 · June 2023

laurasdada said:
Same here, Massachusetts, OldFarmer. Smokey haze courtesy of Nova Scotia. Better than having the actual wildfires, I suppose.

Worst nightmare: woody, twisty roads on the way home from errands in the M240, I got stuck behind a Prius. Wagon. Brake lights at any hint of a curve in the road.

Stuck behind a Prius!!!!!!!!!
Would you have mentioned it if it was just a KIA?
I would have noticed the same thing.
In fact, I was following one that was in the left lane for no reason going 50 on a 60 mph highway....it was like I am special so I can drive wherever I like. The Prius owner doesn't even pay the tax on gas which helps pay for the road.

And now the biggest laugh....the Ontario government has warned us there will be a big chance of brownouts this summer if the weather is hot, and they want us to buy more electric cars

driver100 · June 2023

Talk about colors:

The reviewer says; Now this is my kind of green vehicle. Don’t get me wrong, I love electric cars, and for day-to-day motoring (range limitations aside) nothing beats an EV. But a Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 in Python Green? C’mon. I would argue (colour aside) this variant of the Cayman is the best sports-car-money can buy, and with a starting price of $98,800 (add… ahem, $24k in options here) it’s not an exorbitant price for what must be one of the greatest ways to celebrate the end of the ICE age for the mid-engine Porsche. The next Cayman and Boxster, expected for 2025, will be fully electric, dontcha know.

kyfdx · June 2023

imidazol97 said:
We've had several days of varying levels of smoke from the fires. Today, I can
sort of taste and smell the smoke. But it's nothing like the smell when there
were fires in the western state and Canada.

I await an apology from the Prime Minister. First all that awful cold air from
Canada some times of the year and now the smoke from fires...

Justin Trudeau on line 5..

kyfdx · June 2023

I agree about the Cayman.

ab348 · June 2023

laurasdada said:
Same here, Massachusetts, OldFarmer. Smokey haze courtesy of Nova Scotia. Better than having the actual wildfires, I suppose.

Whatcha talking about? We just had several days of heavy rain here. Any fires (we did have some last week) are out. Quebec is suffering now and that is the source.

ab348 · June 2023

imidazol97 said:

I await an apology from the Prime Minister. First all that awful cold air from
Canada some times of the year and now the smoke from fires...

Try being a citizen up here under his watch. Then you'd really be sore...

qbrozen · June 2023

the smoke is so bad here today that the air all around has an orange glow. I haven't been able to step outside the house/garage. And the Phillies game was just canceled on account of smoke.

tjc78 · June 2023

@qbrozen said:
the smoke is so bad here today that the air all around has an orange glow. I haven't been able to step outside the house/garage. And the Phillies game was just canceled on account of smoke.

Pretty bad down here. It’s like an orange sunset glow in the middle of the afternoon

We had a video call with a store in Brooklyn and they showed us the outside and it was terrible.

kyfdx · June 2023

According to the weatherman, it should be like that here in Cincinnati by Friday afternoon.

jmonroe1 · June 2023

@driver100 said:
Oh sure, blame us again, for the fires, for the cold arctic air, for Canada Geese!
btw...you don't complain about our trees when you breathe in oxygen!
We have hazy conditions, and it smells a bit like a campfire around here. Some people are wearing their K95 masks. Do you remember having campfires or bonfires....we sat around and breathed in that smoke for hours? Now they tell us it is full of carcinogens and toxic materials! We even roasted hot dogs and marshmallows in those campfires!!!!

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Mother Nature says what we didn’t know didn’t hurt us but since now we know, now it hurts us. Ignorance is bliss and forgiving.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · June 2023

@imidazol97 said:
I forgot about Canada Geese. On one scrub golf course the owner asked me if I knew how to get rid of the Canada Geese that populated a green that was next to a pond--golfers had to shoot over the pond.
They left an awful mess of droppings over the green and around that area. Terrible.

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I’m pretty sure Canadian shotguns would do the job.

jmonroe

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