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Doing a little bit of every day math, that difference could buy a tank truck of gas.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport
@Michaell - looks like your nephew picked a fantastic car! I love the sleek, modern look of the current Accord. The urban grey is a sharp color, very similar to our Camry’s underground. He made an excellent choice going with the Hybrid that will net him phenomenal fuel economy and lower maintenance costs. Just tell him to make sure to have the CVT fluid drained and filled. As others have pointed out, it was good he was able to pivot away from the Black one given its imperfections.
Even with CPO cars, it is buyer beware. My best friend bought his CPO Lexus LX570 a few years ago. I think he’s had it for 4 years already. Yikes that’s a long time for him. He started to notice some imperfections in the paint on the front bumper and one of the front quarter panels. Then he said the paint was flaking off in spots. He took it to a body shop to get looked at. Sure enough, they put it on a lift and there was evidence the car had been in an accident. Parts of the bumper were literally zip tied to the mounting points.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
@venture - the Frontier is a nice looking truck. A good customer of mine is on the third one of this body style. He had a few of the older body styles as well. He gets the Pro 4X. He says they hold their value well, because he leases them and they always have equity and he turns them in early. I like how it is powered by a naturally aspirated V6 as well. I can’t imagine the current generation Tacomas are holding their value as well as the 3rd generations did,
I’m so snobby when it comes to Toyotas. I’d totally get another pickup truck. I’d be happy with a cheapo payment, low optioned SR5. I don’t even think I’d even consider a frontier that wasn’t a Pro4X.
@stickguy - those 18 month leases were killer.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Yep, 99% residuals in some cases.
I’ll pass along the thoughts about CVT servicing.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Why not get both? It never hurts to have a rolling spare.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
You need to read the rest of the discussion before replying. He ended up with a grey one.
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I’d be willing to bet @roadburner never had a reason of any kind to be going 40.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
How do you improperly seat a drain plug? Or does that mean it wasn’t tightened properly? No excuse with either screwup . That oil change kid will probably retire in that job along with a few damaged engines to his credit.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
You need to read the rest of the discussion before replying. He ended up with a grey one.
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————————————————Yes, I saw that but continuing to look for a rolling spare couldn’t hurt other than the driveway seems to be a little over stuffed already.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Yeah the 4Runner is gone as soon as it’s sold, and the Sonata will be around another week.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Ooops....just see deal was closed on a grey one. Nice!
My favorite pearl white was Toyota’s Blizzard Pearl. Just enough flake to not look ivory. My 2006 Avalon had it
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-alfa-romeo-gtv/
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Found exactly 1 Sentra SE-R - 101K, asking almost $17K
A few Preludes, too. And a Celica GT.
All with stick shifts.
Man, those interior fabrics were pretty luxurious for the times.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
There is a 34K mile 2000 Base Prelude in Red on BaT.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Got this text from a relative yesterday (Monday):
“So I’m looking into trucks for our 16/17 year old. (Ford Ranger is top choice but open to Nissan Frontier, GMC Canyon and Chevy Canyon).
Curious on your thoughts of owning a pick up truck and if you have any insights? Our problem is we’re trying to be “out the door” at $21 K and they’re SO DAMN EXPENSIVE!!!”
The relative lives in Charlotte, NC.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
There is a 34K mile 2000 Base Prelude in Red on BaT.
I’m gonna guess that’ll be out of my budget by the time the auction ends.
Nice looking car, however.
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Cheapest truck is probably still a Maverick XL. Also seems like something that would not be a bad 1st car for a teen.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
saw a few others that I like. This would be a way cool "dump runner". Just not a fan of the lowering and frame notching.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-gmc-c1500-8/
Semi-beater Boxster. Black paint IMO is not right for this car, and short a pedal. wonder what this ends up going for?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-porsche-boxster-5-2/
I am not an expert on these, but this looks really nice for the money.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2011-bmw-128i-convertible-5/
and don't judge, but I absolutely love this one.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-volkswagen-cabriolet-29/
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
There is a 34K mile 2000 Base Prelude in Red on BaT.
Didn’t you have an issue last year with yours needing some unobtainium obsolete part?
I think unless you get an older mass market car like a Camaro or a Mustang, that will be a problem. And then, if you get a nice one, you won’t want to drive it in snow or rain. I’d stick to something modern.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
No problems or restrictions since it is already titled. If you INSURE it as historic, you may be restricted. The problem might come with inspection, if your particular state doesn’t have an exemption for age.
HOWEVER, I would never buy one of those with the 2.0 of that generation. It would be painfully slow. You really want the GTV6.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Yes, they are expensive. Frontier is probably the bargain of the bunch. Another outside shot is a clean Dakota. Would be older but definitely cheaper. I actually tagged one just this past weekend that looks pretty good:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/425600525
And here is a pretty neat Frontier I saw:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/425683463
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Yes, they are expensive. Frontier is probably the bargain of the bunch. Another outside shot is a clean Dakota. Would be older but definitely cheaper. I actually tagged one just this past weekend that looks pretty good:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/425600525
And here is a pretty neat Frontier I saw:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/425683463
That Frontier is way cool.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
I’m thinking 1980s Toyota or Nissan stuff.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Both those trucks look nice.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I love my Prelude. I wouldn’t get another one. Parts are getting harder and harder to come by. One day something is going to break or need replacement and it’s going to be very difficult and or expensive to source the part I need.
If I have the financial resources to purchase another fun, old car, it would probably be a C5 or C6 Corvette. There are plenty around that have been driven and parts are plentiful if needed.
New. I think the only answer would be a Civic Si.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I’m good with a newer fun car.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
It looks great, sounds great and fuel mileage is great(21+ lifetime).
My wife doesn't like the seats, I'm not a fan of the steering or steering wheel or the 3.31 rear gear.
Found a black(not my favorite color) XLT Powerboost with 302A that has me thinking.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-tesla-model-y-long-range-yearlong-review-update-14-two-year-check-in
"Our 2023 Tesla Model Y Two-Year-Long Test Is Over. I’ll Never Understand How It Became the Most Popular EV. The flaws are obvious, yet buyers keep lining up.
Alex Leanse, MotorTrend, Sep 02, 2025
...The chassis tuning eliminates any notion that this is a precise or premium vehicle. Its ride quality alone is reason enough to disqualify it. Our car's suspension, which feels like it’s filled with hard rubber, reacts nervously to slight road imperfections and pounds across large ones...
Aside from how it drives, the Model Y is riddled with problems that make life worse. First of all, this and the Model 3 share the auto industry’s worst door handles. Slim and lacking power extension, they require a specific hand movement and grip to open. Doing it while holding things is difficult. Additionally, because there’s no illumination around the handles, locating them in the dark is difficult (especially on our Deep Blue Metallic car). This design adds needless complexity to an essential car function (and makes emergency egress difficult, too)...
That’s even before factoring in the infuriatingly inconsistent phone-as-key feature. I can't estimate how many times the Model Y left me yanking its door handle over and over and over again before it detected my presence...
Tesla’s hallmark monolithic center screen constantly demands attention away from the road. Simply checking speed in the upper left corner was annoying, but how adjusting the air temperature or media settings need long glances and precise taps makes focused driving harder. This setup proves why people want real buttons back...
Perceived quality is far worse than any vehicle in our long-term fleet. Materials are decent; the rubbery faux leather and strips of wood veneer suffice for the price point. Assembly and durability are of greater concern—our Model Y has become preposterously creaky. The sound of various pieces vibrating and rubbing persists through every drive from the first press of the accelerator...
Full Self-Driving (FSD) is a dangerous farce. I quit using FSD after it drove me across solid double yellow lane lines into the oncoming lane of traffic. That was my breaking point after thousands of miles of testing filled with erratic, inexplicable maneuvers..."
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
The expense of that is a transmission and programming that causes some really odd low speed drivability issues. It really is clunky at partial throttle and then lifting off. Shifts to second way too soon and third even sooner. When you back off it jerks and sometimes bangs back to 1st. I have to say I'm not utterly happy at this point. Even my wife said the other night "what is wrong with this truck"
I need to get it to the dealer and see if there is a re-flash available or if there is something wrong. I called my local dealer about 2 weeks after I got it and they gave me a bunch of crap about not wanting to deal with it since it was so new and the selling dealer should handle it. Now that it is nearly 4 months old and 4K miles maybe they will take it without a song and a dance.
It is really a shame about the low speed issues, because when you get into it that beast really scoots. It never feels low on power.
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Still discussing our planned move to St. Augustine some time in 2027. I've decided to let her decide when to go as I don't want to rush her into leaving one of her current jobs. But she has mentioned leaving sometime in 2027 which would work. I'm ready to leave sooner if necessary as I don't plan to work when we go. Think I'll be busy enough with learning a whole new area I have no clue about. I had no idea where north or south was last time we were there so let our daughter drive us around. We'll know by spring if she's going to purchase a new house or continue her lease. Bus if she continues her lease, she wants to get a 2 bedroom/2 bath unit so we can come up more often. We'd be staying with her once we do move temporarily until we find a new place. We'll just put our stuff in storage for a bit like we did back in 1987, our last move. Plan is to sell the current place before we buy something else. A lot of plans right now so will be interesting to see how this all plays out!
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)