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28firefighter · September 3

The GLI is back after 70 days out of commission. I’m working on my DV and loss of value claims right now, and then it will be gone. The VW certified shop did immaculate work and you truly cannot tell any repairs were made anywhere. It does have a dinged carfax so no avoiding the history though.

It still drives phenomenally and will be a great car for someone!

oldfarmer50 · September 3

tjc78 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:
Since my F-150 is just sitting there waiting for the rim to be repaired, I've been thinking about what I like/don't like about it.
It looks great, sounds great and fuel mileage is great(21+ lifetime).
My wife doesn't like the seats, I'm not a fan of the steering or steering wheel or the 3.31 rear gear.
Found a black(not my favorite color) XLT Powerboost with 302A that has me thinking.
It would be cheaper to just swap in a 3:73 rear end. My truck has a towing package that includes that. Probably only cost a thousand or so. I know it makes a difference in off the line for my little V6.
You would also need access to Forscan to tune the computer. The speedo would be off and most likely the transmission wouldn't shift correctly without inputting the proper rear end spec.

The dealer could do that easily while installing the rear end. My Ford dealer reprogrammed everything for me when I did upgrades to my car which included modifying the shift points.

oldfarmer50 · September 3

28firefighter said:
The GLI is back after 70 days out of commission. I’m working on my DV and loss of value claims right now, and then it will be gone. The VW certified shop did immaculate work and you truly cannot tell any repairs were made anywhere. It does have a dinged carfax so no avoiding the history though.

It still drives phenomenally and will be a great car for someone!

The biggest reason an accident diminishes value is that the next buyer doesn’t know how well it was fixed. You do, so why not keep it as a spare or better yet sell it to a friend or relative who needs a good set of wheels and doesn’t care about the CarFax ding?

graphicguy · September 3

@tjc78 said:

@graphicguy said:
I'm biased, but Honda/Acrua's white is a metal flake version. It's really quite nice.

Ooops....just see deal was closed on a grey one. Nice!

My favorite pearl white was Toyota’s Blizzard Pearl. Just enough flake to not look ivory. My 2006 Avalon had it

I DO like that pearl white I’ve seen on Camry recently….especially with the black roof!

tjc78 · September 3

@graphicguy said:

@tjc78 said:

@graphicguy said:
I'm biased, but Honda/Acrua's white is a metal flake version. It's really quite nice.

Ooops....just see deal was closed on a grey one. Nice!

My favorite pearl white was Toyota’s Blizzard Pearl. Just enough flake to not look ivory. My 2006 Avalon had it

I DO like that pearl white I’ve seen on Camry recently….especially with the black roof!

If I was getting Camry it would be that white/black over the red interior (if it can be configured that way)

tifighter · September 3

oldfarmer50 said:

28firefighter said:
The GLI is back after 70 days out of commission. I’m working on my DV and loss of value claims right now, and then it will be gone. The VW certified shop did immaculate work and you truly cannot tell any repairs were made anywhere. It does have a dinged carfax so no avoiding the history though.

It still drives phenomenally and will be a great car for someone!

The biggest reason an accident diminishes value is that the next buyer doesn’t know how well it was fixed. You do, so why not keep it as a spare or better yet sell it to a friend or relative who needs a good set of wheels and doesn’t care about the CarFax ding?

Let me speak for him-

Because 911.

28firefighter · September 3

Right. And wife won’t have two manual cars in the house that she can’t drive.

sda · September 3

tjc78 said:

explorerx4 said:
Since my F-150 is just sitting there waiting for the rim to be repaired, I've been thinking about what I like/don't like about it.
It looks great, sounds great and fuel mileage is great(21+ lifetime).
My wife doesn't like the seats, I'm not a fan of the steering or steering wheel or the 3.31 rear gear.
Found a black(not my favorite color) XLT Powerboost with 302A that has me thinking.
21+ is great. The new Ram has seen a high of 20 and right now is at 18.9. That's about 1.5 MPG better than my 2022 with the 5.7.

The expense of that is a transmission and programming that causes some really odd low speed drivability issues. It really is clunky at partial throttle and then lifting off. Shifts to second way too soon and third even sooner. When you back off it jerks and sometimes bangs back to 1st. I have to say I'm not utterly happy at this point. Even my wife said the other night "what is wrong with this truck"

I need to get it to the dealer and see if there is a re-flash available or if there is something wrong. I called my local dealer about 2 weeks after I got it and they gave me a bunch of crap about not wanting to deal with it since it was so new and the selling dealer should handle it. Now that it is nearly 4 months old and 4K miles maybe they will take it without a song and a dance.

It is really a shame about the low speed issues, because when you get into it that beast really scoots. It never feels low on power.

It is really telling when a dealer pushes you away just because you did not buy the vehicle there. Very poor and short sighted.

qbrozen · September 3

Is it just me or does this actually seem reasonable the way things are priced these days?
https://www.revautosale.com/inventory/toyota/matrix/693084/

stickguy · September 3

If it was an S model with the manual!

28firefighter · September 3

I’m going to have the GLI for a bit, so I’m getting my moneys worth and driving it. It really is a wonderful car for the price point. Someone will get a great car when I flip it.

nyccarguy · September 3

@qbrozen said:
Is it just me or does this actually seem reasonable the way things are priced these days?
https://www.revautosale.com/inventory/toyota/matrix/693084/

In my research, pre - ‘09 Maxtrixes have issues.

nyccarguy · September 3

Has anybody heard from @mjfloyd1 recently?

tjc78 · September 4

sda said:

tjc78 said:

explorerx4 said:
Since my F-150 is just sitting there waiting for the rim to be repaired, I've been thinking about what I like/don't like about it.
It looks great, sounds great and fuel mileage is great(21+ lifetime).
My wife doesn't like the seats, I'm not a fan of the steering or steering wheel or the 3.31 rear gear.
Found a black(not my favorite color) XLT Powerboost with 302A that has me thinking.
21+ is great. The new Ram has seen a high of 20 and right now is at 18.9. That's about 1.5 MPG better than my 2022 with the 5.7.

The expense of that is a transmission and programming that causes some really odd low speed drivability issues. It really is clunky at partial throttle and then lifting off. Shifts to second way too soon and third even sooner. When you back off it jerks and sometimes bangs back to 1st. I have to say I'm not utterly happy at this point. Even my wife said the other night "what is wrong with this truck"

I need to get it to the dealer and see if there is a re-flash available or if there is something wrong. I called my local dealer about 2 weeks after I got it and they gave me a bunch of crap about not wanting to deal with it since it was so new and the selling dealer should handle it. Now that it is nearly 4 months old and 4K miles maybe they will take it without a song and a dance.

It is really a shame about the low speed issues, because when you get into it that beast really scoots. It never feels low on power.
It is really telling when a dealer pushes you away just because you did not buy the vehicle there. Very poor and short sighted.

Yeah, I wasn't very happy with it. I know they can't turn away warranty work. I was driving and didn't have the VIN so I didn't push it. I was supposed to call them back with the VIN and schedule but with the wife down the shore I would have had to get an Uber back home so figured I'd wait until Sept.

graphicguy · September 4

tjc78 said:

@graphicguy said:

@tjc78 said:

@graphicguy said:

I'm biased, but Honda/Acrua's white is a metal flake version. It's really quite nice.

Ooops....just see deal was closed on a grey one. Nice!

My favorite pearl white was Toyota’s Blizzard Pearl. Just enough flake to not look ivory. My 2006 Avalon had it

I DO like that pearl white I’ve seen on Camry recently….especially with the black roof!

If I was getting Camry it would be that white/black over the red interior (if it can be configured that way)

The closest Toyo dealer to me has a metallic grey Camry with red interior sitting right in front of the dealership. Very sharp. That one won't last long.

Guy I do PT with just bought an Integra....white with red interior. Very sharp. It's new and this is his first Acura, so he says he LOVES it. Looked inside and although the drivetrain is Civic, the interior is quite different even though it has Civic bones. Wanted to take me for a ride, but I was in a hurry. Took a rain check.

Sad that the TLX is going away. I was really looking forward to seeing a new one. Maybe somewhere else down the road.

carnaught · September 4

BUMP

ab348 · September 4

graphicguy said:

Guy I do PT with just bought an Integra....white with red interior. Very sharp. It's new and this is his first Acura, so he says he LOVES it. Looked inside and although the drivetrain is Civic, the interior is quite different even though it has Civic bones. Wanted to take me for a ride, but I was in a hurry. Took a rain check.

Sad that the TLX is going away. I was really looking forward to seeing a new one. Maybe somewhere else down the road.

Apparently the Integra is not longer for this world either. Automotive News reporting today that Acura is going all S/CUV and all hybrid.

Honda announced the new Prelude today. Apparently a rebodied Civic. C&D had pics here: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65972130/2026-honda-prelude-revealed/

Not bad looking on the outside. Reminds me of something I can’t quite put my finger on. Interior looks like tarted-up Civic pieces. Comes in the standard 5 paint colors these days: white, black, gray, bright blue and red.

tjc78 · September 4

Sharp car for sure, but only 200HP? Hmm.....

28firefighter · September 4

tjc78 said:
Sharp car for sure, but only 200HP? Hmm.....

A hybrid powertrain? wasn't expecting that at all.

au1994 · September 4

tjc78 said:
Sharp car for sure, but only 200HP? Hmm.....

Looks great but with 200hp it will get boat raced by a Kenworth.

explorerx4 · September 4

Prelude going back to it's roots.

stickguy · September 4

Started out as a stylish civic coupe. Just like the mustang was a stylish falcon coupe.

stickguy · September 4

And somehow I don’t think a civic Si is going to get out dragged by a semi truck.

au1994 · September 4

stickguy said:
And somehow I don’t think a civic Si is going to get out dragged by a semi truck.

I know, of course, but I was hoping for more than 200hp. “Geared” right, it still might be fun. I know the CRX and Civic Si of the late 80’s early 90’s had a whopping 108hp and they were more fun than they should have been.

sda · September 4

explorerx4 said:
Prelude going back to it's roots.

But, but, Preludes always had a sunroof! bummer

tjc78 · September 4

They haven’t published 0-60… what do we think? 6.3 or so?

stickguy · September 4

Plenty for me!

ab348 · September 4

Here’s Alex with a walkaround.

https://youtu.be/JZ34uZu20js?si=893VLqVlkYL6-hKr

oldfarmer50 · September 4

qbrozen said:
Is it just me or does this actually seem reasonable the way things are priced these days?
https://www.revautosale.com/inventory/toyota/matrix/693084/

No not reasonable but that’s the way things are priced these days.

oldfarmer50 · September 4

I was delivering a car to a Chevy dealer today and saw that they had two Corvettes in the showroom and another right outside the front door. No window stickers on any of them so I couldn’t tell if they were performance versions or regular spec. Still it seemed to be a lot of Corvettes hanging around. Are they not selling well?

stickguy · September 4

They did have a stop sale recently.

stickguy · September 4

ab348 said:
Here’s Alex with a walkaround.

https://youtu.be/JZ34uZu20js?si=893VLqVlkYL6-hKr

I’m in love with this.

ab348 · September 4

I like it too, particularly the white one with the light interior and optional spoiler that he showed. I could get into that.

Unfortunately I’m not sure I could get out of it.

28firefighter · September 4

Woman driving next to me tonight (while I was stopped, again) got clocked and the person who hit her almost hit the GLI on the other quarter panel. I’m parking it and not touching it. Car is bad juju for some reason.

benjaminh · September 5

Unlike classic Preludes the new one has small rear windows and thick rear pillars, which will mean poor visibility out the back and large blind spots. There's a similar problem in the current Acura Integra.

corvette · September 5

Rode to dinner last night in a Kona. Three middle aged men across in the rear was not pleasant. Thankfully, it was a short ride.

au1994 · September 5

Volvo Cross Country is gone. I thought it already left us to be honest.

oldfarmer50 · September 5

corvette said:
Rode to dinner last night in a Kona. Three middle aged men across in the rear was not pleasant. Thankfully, it was a short ride.

I assume this was a ride share. Do they let you sit in the front any more? I know during Covid they restricted the riders to back seat only but I thought that rule had been relaxed.

My son’s 2010 Fusion which he currently uses for LYFT is aging out of eligibility so we figured the easiest thing to do is just swap titles and let him have my Kia. It has a pretty good rear seat but I wouldn’t want to go three across.

Yesterday we were given a Silverado as a chase vehicle and we sat three across in the rear. I was surprised at how much room it had.

oldfarmer50 · September 5

28firefighter said:
Woman driving next to me tonight (while I was stopped, again) got clocked and the person who hit her almost hit the GLI on the other quarter panel. I’m parking it and not touching it. Car is bad juju for some reason.

How do you spell your name again?

stickguy · September 5

@benjaminh said:
Unlike classic Preludes the new one has small rear windows and thick rear pillars, which will mean poor visibility out the back and large blind spots. There's a similar problem in the current Acura Integra.

Can’t see out the back of the RDX either. Common problem these days. Good thing get BLIS and back up cameras.

au1994 · September 5

oldfarmer50 said:

corvette said:
Rode to dinner last night in a Kona. Three middle aged men across in the rear was not pleasant. Thankfully, it was a short ride.
I assume this was a ride share. Do they let you sit in the front any more? I know during Covid they restricted the riders to back seat only but I thought that rule had been relaxed.

My son’s 2010 Fusion which he currently uses for LYFT is aging out of eligibility so we figured the easiest thing to do is just swap titles and let him have my Kia. It has a pretty good rear seat but I wouldn’t want to go three across.

Yesterday we were given a Silverado as a chase vehicle and we sat three across in the rear. I was surprised at how much room it had.

My experience is yes, they allow front seat riders now but maybe it’s up to the driver?

au1994 · September 5

Driving around for work yesterday I saw not one but two Dodge Hornets, the new Alfa clone ones. May have been half the sales volume for the ATL metro area.

breld · September 5

I like that new Prelude too, if nothing else then for nostalgia for the name.

It’ll be interesting to see how it sells - it appears to be little more than a 2 door Civic hybrid, so the styling will have to move people enough to give up the more practical and presumably less expensive Civic…and that may be enough.

breld · September 5

I’m in love with this 911 with its blue plaid seats and the cool wooden shift knob.

Not quite in love enough to shell out MSRP, nor the almost $20k premium they’re asking.

https://www.porschecoloradosprings.com/vehicle-details/used-2025-porsche-911-carrera-t-colorado-springs-co-id-61870391

oldfarmer50 · September 5

breld said:
I’m in love with this 911 with its blue plaid seats and the cool wooden shift knob.

Not quite in love enough to shell out MSRP, nor the almost $20k premium they’re asking.

https://www.porschecoloradosprings.com/vehicle-details/used-2025-porsche-911-carrera-t-colorado-springs-co-id-61870391

$20k premium on a used car? That’s gutzy.

breld · September 5

oldfarmer50 said:

breld said:
I’m in love with this 911 with its blue plaid seats and the cool wooden shift knob.

Not quite in love enough to shell out MSRP, nor the almost $20k premium they’re asking.

https://www.porschecoloradosprings.com/vehicle-details/used-2025-porsche-911-carrera-t-colorado-springs-co-id-61870391

$20k premium on a used car? That’s gutzy.

I get the sense this particular dealership is happy to buy back certain vehicles from a customer shortly after the original purchase, in hopes of selling it again at a premium. This being a manual, I imagine they can indeed get some premium.

Having said that, it's been listed for several weeks now. But they seem to be patient.

corvette · September 5

@oldfarmer50 said:
I assume this was a ride share.

Nope. My boss rented a car for the trip, and that’s what she got. There were five of us going to dinner. Another employee rented what he called a “Toyota Century,” which I assume was a Corolla.

@breld - great color on that 911.

oldfarmer50 · September 5

corvette said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

I assume this was a ride share.

Nope. My boss rented a car for the trip, and that’s what she got. There were five of us going to dinner. Another employee rented what he called a “Toyota Century,” which I assume was a Corolla.

@breld - great color on that 911.

LOL, she evidently doesn’t know cars. She should have retained you as her car “consultant”. 🤣

stickguy · September 5

Watching the review and some reading the prelude is almost a type R With the hybrid power train. Might work!

Speaking of hybrids we just got back from a 3 night vacation for our 40th to Vermont. Took the maverick. About 220 miles of mixed driving (but no real high speed highway) and it overall got 48mpg. It loves rolling country roads in the 45-55 range. And Vermont specializes in those.

andres3 · September 5

oldfarmer50 said:

28firefighter said:
The GLI is back after 70 days out of commission. I’m working on my DV and loss of value claims right now, and then it will be gone. The VW certified shop did immaculate work and you truly cannot tell any repairs were made anywhere. It does have a dinged carfax so no avoiding the history though.

It still drives phenomenally and will be a great car for someone!

The biggest reason an accident diminishes value is that the next buyer doesn’t know how well it was fixed. You do, so why not keep it as a spare or better yet sell it to a friend or relative who needs a good set of wheels and doesn’t care about the CarFax ding?

Many DV quality issues may not be immediately apparent even upon close inspection, but will reveal themselves in 3 months or 3 years. Peeling, flaking, bubbling paint and other defects in finish, for example.

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