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stickguy · December 10

I would be shocked if the lobbying didn't include payoffs.

not surprised to see more rear end collisions. If I know there are cameras and hit an intersection going yellow, I will likely slam on the brakes instead of going through like I would at a "clean" intersection.

xwesx · December 10

Traffic lights control ingress not egress. So, if a light is yellow and you cannot safely come to a stop before the intersection, the right choice is to enter it on yellow and proceed through with caution.

corvette · December 10

We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.

driver100 · December 11

nyccarguy said:

corvette said:
I haven't noticed anything different, and I use Chrome on both my work and personal devices.
Maybe @driver100 is using the Canadian version of Chrome?

Maybe, but I am in Florida and every time I go on Gmail I get about 5 ads, today for Wynn Dixie, We Buy Cars, Bits and Pieces Puzzles, Hoover Institution-whatever that is....a learning Institute for vacuum cleaners? I guess I went on some site and they sold my name to every [non-permissible content removed] company. I sure won't buy anything from someone sending me unsolicited emails.

ab348 · December 11

driver100 said:

nyccarguy said:

corvette said:
I haven't noticed anything different, and I use Chrome on both my work and personal devices.
Maybe @driver100 is using the Canadian version of Chrome?
Maybe, but I am in Florida and every time I go on Gmail I get about 5 ads, today for Wynn Dixie, We Buy Cars, Bits and Pieces Puzzles, Hoover Institution-whatever that is....a learning Institute for vacuum cleaners? I guess I went on some site and they sold my name to every [non-permissible content removed] company. I sure won't buy anything from someone sending me unsolicited emails.

Gmail "learns" whenever you mark a sender as junk so over time those should get sent to a folder you never see unless you want to.

driver100 · December 11

xwesx said:
Yes, same with regard to AdBlock. I always have that running on my browsers. However, I do see ad "emails" in my phone's email program. They are contained to a specific ribbon, though, so they aren't difficult to just ignore.

Exactly. I have to choose to block the ad, press and do a few steps, and they won't send the same ad again, big deal. It's like Guacamole, I get rid of 4 and 5 more ads appear......I will not buy from someone I didn't ask to send me information.

imidazol97 · December 11

driver100 said:

xwesx said:
Yes, same with regard to AdBlock. I always have that running on my browsers. However, I do see ad "emails" in my phone's email program. They are contained to a specific ribbon, though, so they aren't difficult to just ignore.
Exactly. I have to choose to block the ad, press and do a few steps, and they won't send the same ad again, big deal. It's like Guacamole, I get rid of 4 and 5 more ads appear......I will not buy from someone I didn't ask to send me information.

Is this happening on a laptop or computer? Which browser are you using? I use Brave and it filters out a lot of obnoxious stuff. If I use chrome or firefox mozilla to visit the same sites, I get ads and popups and lots of nuisance stuff.

On Android phones, I know I get warnings from some sites if I'm using Opera because it has ad blockers an the sites want me to turn them off.

xwesx · December 11

corvette said:
We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.

I think having cameras is excellent.... just not for snapshot-based traffic citations, because they have zero context. I remember watching an article about the... Denver?... area, where they have cameras that enforce access to HOV lanes (all the time, not just when the actual HOV lane is "open"). People will get citations any time they cross the solid white lines separating from the rest of the freeway, even if they are doing something like avoiding a collision or obstacle! There was apparently a situation at one point where a bad crash had first responders re-routing traffic around the site by directing them to the far right shoulder and the HOV lane on the left. Many hundreds of drivers received citations. LOL

jmonroe1 · December 11

@driver100 said:
Maybe, but I am in Florida and every time I go on Gmail I get about 5 ads, today for Wynn Dixie, We Buy Cars, Bits and Pieces Puzzles, Hoover Institution-whatever that is....a learning Institute for vacuum cleaners? I guess I went on some site and they sold my name to every [non-permissible content removed] company. I sure won't buy anything from someone sending me unsolicited emails.

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If they had a Hoover Institution back in the day, you should have signed-up Mrs. @driver100 so she wouldn’t have had you doing the vaccuming all these years.

jmonroe

xwesx · December 11

This is no joke! Downright frigid.

driver100 · December 11

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:
What has happened to Gmail? Whenever I go on, which can be 20 times a day, I get 2 to 6 unwanted ads, probably 50 a day. For each one I have to go on it, block it, and press again to keep it from showing up again. What a pain, most of the ads are things that mean nothing to me.
They show up as if they are emails, not ads along the sides. It is making Gmail almost unusable.
I use gmail.com for one of my addresses and I've not noticed a change in how google is pushing out propaganda or advertising. BUT i use a client program on my laptop to read the emails. The client has a button next to each email to mark it as spam, then Thunderbird, the client program, puts things like that one into spam.

I looked on gmail.com and signed into my email there, and there's a vertical row of 3 dots at right side above the first email. One of the choices is to filter emails like this one that it's next to, and I did not follow, but I suspect filters can be set to recognize those as spam.

On signing into gmail.com, google tried to make me give them a new recovery email and my home address. Nope, they don't need that info to sell to someone.

You can filter out regular emails...if you don't like the sender you can filter them out using their email address and/or using key words in their email.
These are different, when I get one, let's say it is for the Hoover Institute, you can press BLOCK that sender, and it usually does BLOCK that one though sometimes they try using a different sending address. Somehow....I got on the sucker list.

driver100 · December 11

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

nyccarguy said:

corvette said:
I haven't noticed anything different, and I use Chrome on both my work and personal devices.
Maybe @driver100 is using the Canadian version of Chrome?
Maybe, but I am in Florida and every time I go on Gmail I get about 5 ads, today for Wynn Dixie, We Buy Cars, Bits and Pieces Puzzles, Hoover Institution-whatever that is....a learning Institute for vacuum cleaners? I guess I went on some site and they sold my name to every [non-permissible content removed] company. I sure won't buy anything from someone sending me unsolicited emails.
Gmail "learns" whenever you mark a sender as junk so over time those should get sent to a folder you never see unless you want to.

That part works. btw, I didn't mention these show up in my "Promotions" file, not my main emails.

corvette · December 11

I have a folder called "Not Inbox" where things like Cars & Bids emails and things where the unsubscribe button doesn't work get filtered.

andres3 · December 11

stickguy said:
I would be shocked if the lobbying didn't include payoffs.

not surprised to see more rear end collisions. If I know there are cameras and hit an intersection going yellow, I will likely slam on the brakes instead of going through like I would at a "clean" intersection.

There are convictions in Chicago for that very payoff thing you mentioned. Guaranteed Chicago wasn't an outlier, other than some people got caught and prosecuted, whereas in many jurisdictions prosecutors may have looked the other way.

driver100 · December 11

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

xwesx said:
Yes, same with regard to AdBlock. I always have that running on my browsers. However, I do see ad "emails" in my phone's email program. They are contained to a specific ribbon, though, so they aren't difficult to just ignore.
Exactly. I have to choose to block the ad, press and do a few steps, and they won't send the same ad again, big deal. It's like Guacamole, I get rid of 4 and 5 more ads appear......I will not buy from someone I didn't ask to send me information.
Is this happening on a laptop or computer? Which browser are you using? I use Brave and it filters out a lot of obnoxious stuff. If I use chrome or firefox mozilla to visit the same sites, I get ads and popups and lots of nuisance stuff.

On Android phones, I know I get warnings from some sites if I'm using Opera because it has ad blockers an the sites want me to turn them off.

I wasn't getting these at home on my desktop, but I take my laptop to Florida and they are appearing here. That makes me wonder, I used the free wi-fi at the airport, that could be the cause of the problem. Maybe they provide free wi-fi, but they sell your email address.
I use Chrome and I have an ad blocker at home, but not on the laptop, but I don't get many pop-ups or ads on the laptop.

driver100 · December 11

xwesx said:
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This is no joke! Downright frigid.

Sorry to hear that xwesx, but just where do you live? The North Pole!

andres3 · December 11

xwesx said:

corvette said:
We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.
I think having cameras is excellent.... just not for snapshot-based traffic citations, because they have zero context. I remember watching an article about the... Denver?... area, where they have cameras that enforce access to HOV lanes (all the time, not just when the actual HOV lane is "open"). People will get citations any time they cross the solid white lines separating from the rest of the freeway, even if they are doing something like avoiding a collision or obstacle! There was apparently a situation at one point where a bad crash had first responders re-routing traffic around the site by directing them to the far right shoulder and the HOV lane on the left. Many hundreds of drivers received citations. LOL

The only way to crack down on this nonsense is to charge any false allegations the same as you or I would be charged for making a false report and serious allegation/charge against someone. It's not just a "mistake" or "administrative" error. It's a system inherently designed to maximize revenue forsaking accuracy and legitimacy. The other abomination is attempting to hold the owner accountable for what should be 100% on the driver. It is the "State" after all, that is presumably licensing that driver.

andres3 · December 11

corvette said:
We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.

There are most definitely "pros" to the tech. On the flip side there are stories where people find themselves in dangerous predicaments from overly aggressive law enforcement with potential trigger fingers that may treat someone like an armed murderer and criminal based on a faulty LPR reading.

cdnpinhead · December 11

xwesx said:
This is no joke! Downright frigid.

Wonder why they bother with the C? Two points: 1) Don't you generally have the readout use Fahrenheit? 2) As we know, -40 is the same in both systems.

stickguy · December 11

That’s how they got around the whole prove it in court requirement that applies to real traffic tickets. They classify camera tickets to be non offender (like parking tickets) so the get sent to the registered owner.

jmonroe1 · December 11

@xwesx said:
I think having cameras is excellent.... just not for snapshot-based traffic citations, because they have zero context. I remember watching an article about the... Denver?... area, where they have cameras that enforce access to HOV lanes (all the time, not just when the actual HOV lane is "open"). People will get citations any time they cross the solid white lines separating from the rest of the freeway, even if they are doing something like avoiding a collision or obstacle! There was apparently a situation at one point where a bad crash had first responders re-routing traffic around the site by directing them to the far right shoulder and the HOV lane on the left. Many hundreds of drivers received citations. LOL

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And that one occurance more than paid back the kick-back that the camera outfit made to the State of Colorado to get approval for the camera system.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · December 11

@xwesx said:

This is no joke! Downright frigid.

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You’re cherry picking with your choice of the Centigrade temp scale. If you used the Fahrenheit scale it would have shown it was warmer, right?.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · December 11

@andres3 said:
There are convictions in Chicago for that very payoff thing you mentioned. Guaranteed Chicago wasn't an outlier, other than some people got caught and prosecuted, whereas in many jurisdictions prosecutors may have looked the other way.

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Is it possible that the prosecutors were in on the deal? Nah, that could never happen, huh?

jmonroe

xwesx · December 11

cdnpinhead said:

xwesx said:
This is no joke! Downright frigid.

Wonder why they bother with the C? Two points: 1) Don't you generally have the readout use Fahrenheit? 2) As we know, -40 is the same in both systems.

As I have the option on that car, I always have the temp set to Celcius. I enjoy the conversion process with the kids, and it helps keep me sharp on being able to do that quickly since I pass through Canada so frequently.

For reference, I did choose the -40C display strategically simply because it is effectively the same temperature in either scale at that point.

snakeweasel · December 11

andres3 said:

corvette said:
We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.
There are most definitely "pros" to the tech. On the flip side there are stories where people find themselves in dangerous predicaments from overly aggressive law enforcement with potential trigger fingers that may treat someone like an armed murderer and criminal based on a faulty LPR reading.

And those incidents are exceedingly rare.

snakeweasel · December 11

cdnpinhead said:

xwesx said:
This is no joke! Downright frigid.

Wonder why they bother with the C? Two points: 1) Don't you generally have the readout use Fahrenheit? 2) As we know, -40 is the same in both systems.

I say we should use the Kelvin scale and I think that translates to around 233 degrees.

xwesx · December 11

snakeweasel said:
I say we should use the Kelvin scale and I think that translates to around 233 degrees.

Meh. Kelvin and I don't get along very well because I like negative numbers and he does not!

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