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stickguy · December 10

I would be shocked if the lobbying didn't include payoffs.

not surprised to see more rear end collisions. If I know there are cameras and hit an intersection going yellow, I will likely slam on the brakes instead of going through like I would at a "clean" intersection.

xwesx · December 10

Traffic lights control ingress not egress. So, if a light is yellow and you cannot safely come to a stop before the intersection, the right choice is to enter it on yellow and proceed through with caution.

corvette · December 10

We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.

driver100 · December 11

nyccarguy said:

corvette said:
I haven't noticed anything different, and I use Chrome on both my work and personal devices.
Maybe @driver100 is using the Canadian version of Chrome?

Maybe, but I am in Florida and every time I go on Gmail I get about 5 ads, today for Wynn Dixie, We Buy Cars, Bits and Pieces Puzzles, Hoover Institution-whatever that is....a learning Institute for vacuum cleaners? I guess I went on some site and they sold my name to every [non-permissible content removed] company. I sure won't buy anything from someone sending me unsolicited emails.

ab348 · December 11

driver100 said:

nyccarguy said:

corvette said:
I haven't noticed anything different, and I use Chrome on both my work and personal devices.
Maybe @driver100 is using the Canadian version of Chrome?
Maybe, but I am in Florida and every time I go on Gmail I get about 5 ads, today for Wynn Dixie, We Buy Cars, Bits and Pieces Puzzles, Hoover Institution-whatever that is....a learning Institute for vacuum cleaners? I guess I went on some site and they sold my name to every [non-permissible content removed] company. I sure won't buy anything from someone sending me unsolicited emails.

Gmail "learns" whenever you mark a sender as junk so over time those should get sent to a folder you never see unless you want to.

driver100 · December 11

xwesx said:
Yes, same with regard to AdBlock. I always have that running on my browsers. However, I do see ad "emails" in my phone's email program. They are contained to a specific ribbon, though, so they aren't difficult to just ignore.

Exactly. I have to choose to block the ad, press and do a few steps, and they won't send the same ad again, big deal. It's like Guacamole, I get rid of 4 and 5 more ads appear......I will not buy from someone I didn't ask to send me information.

imidazol97 · December 11

driver100 said:

xwesx said:
Yes, same with regard to AdBlock. I always have that running on my browsers. However, I do see ad "emails" in my phone's email program. They are contained to a specific ribbon, though, so they aren't difficult to just ignore.
Exactly. I have to choose to block the ad, press and do a few steps, and they won't send the same ad again, big deal. It's like Guacamole, I get rid of 4 and 5 more ads appear......I will not buy from someone I didn't ask to send me information.

Is this happening on a laptop or computer? Which browser are you using? I use Brave and it filters out a lot of obnoxious stuff. If I use chrome or firefox mozilla to visit the same sites, I get ads and popups and lots of nuisance stuff.

On Android phones, I know I get warnings from some sites if I'm using Opera because it has ad blockers an the sites want me to turn them off.

xwesx · December 11

corvette said:
We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.

I think having cameras is excellent.... just not for snapshot-based traffic citations, because they have zero context. I remember watching an article about the... Denver?... area, where they have cameras that enforce access to HOV lanes (all the time, not just when the actual HOV lane is "open"). People will get citations any time they cross the solid white lines separating from the rest of the freeway, even if they are doing something like avoiding a collision or obstacle! There was apparently a situation at one point where a bad crash had first responders re-routing traffic around the site by directing them to the far right shoulder and the HOV lane on the left. Many hundreds of drivers received citations. LOL

jmonroe1 · December 11

@driver100 said:
Maybe, but I am in Florida and every time I go on Gmail I get about 5 ads, today for Wynn Dixie, We Buy Cars, Bits and Pieces Puzzles, Hoover Institution-whatever that is....a learning Institute for vacuum cleaners? I guess I went on some site and they sold my name to every [non-permissible content removed] company. I sure won't buy anything from someone sending me unsolicited emails.

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If they had a Hoover Institution back in the day, you should have signed-up Mrs. @driver100 so she wouldn’t have had you doing the vaccuming all these years.

jmonroe

xwesx · December 11

This is no joke! Downright frigid.

driver100 · December 11

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:
What has happened to Gmail? Whenever I go on, which can be 20 times a day, I get 2 to 6 unwanted ads, probably 50 a day. For each one I have to go on it, block it, and press again to keep it from showing up again. What a pain, most of the ads are things that mean nothing to me.
They show up as if they are emails, not ads along the sides. It is making Gmail almost unusable.
I use gmail.com for one of my addresses and I've not noticed a change in how google is pushing out propaganda or advertising. BUT i use a client program on my laptop to read the emails. The client has a button next to each email to mark it as spam, then Thunderbird, the client program, puts things like that one into spam.

I looked on gmail.com and signed into my email there, and there's a vertical row of 3 dots at right side above the first email. One of the choices is to filter emails like this one that it's next to, and I did not follow, but I suspect filters can be set to recognize those as spam.

On signing into gmail.com, google tried to make me give them a new recovery email and my home address. Nope, they don't need that info to sell to someone.

You can filter out regular emails...if you don't like the sender you can filter them out using their email address and/or using key words in their email.
These are different, when I get one, let's say it is for the Hoover Institute, you can press BLOCK that sender, and it usually does BLOCK that one though sometimes they try using a different sending address. Somehow....I got on the sucker list.

driver100 · December 11

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

nyccarguy said:

corvette said:
I haven't noticed anything different, and I use Chrome on both my work and personal devices.
Maybe @driver100 is using the Canadian version of Chrome?
Maybe, but I am in Florida and every time I go on Gmail I get about 5 ads, today for Wynn Dixie, We Buy Cars, Bits and Pieces Puzzles, Hoover Institution-whatever that is....a learning Institute for vacuum cleaners? I guess I went on some site and they sold my name to every [non-permissible content removed] company. I sure won't buy anything from someone sending me unsolicited emails.
Gmail "learns" whenever you mark a sender as junk so over time those should get sent to a folder you never see unless you want to.

That part works. btw, I didn't mention these show up in my "Promotions" file, not my main emails.

corvette · December 11

I have a folder called "Not Inbox" where things like Cars & Bids emails and things where the unsubscribe button doesn't work get filtered.

andres3 · December 11

stickguy said:
I would be shocked if the lobbying didn't include payoffs.

not surprised to see more rear end collisions. If I know there are cameras and hit an intersection going yellow, I will likely slam on the brakes instead of going through like I would at a "clean" intersection.

There are convictions in Chicago for that very payoff thing you mentioned. Guaranteed Chicago wasn't an outlier, other than some people got caught and prosecuted, whereas in many jurisdictions prosecutors may have looked the other way.

driver100 · December 11

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

xwesx said:
Yes, same with regard to AdBlock. I always have that running on my browsers. However, I do see ad "emails" in my phone's email program. They are contained to a specific ribbon, though, so they aren't difficult to just ignore.
Exactly. I have to choose to block the ad, press and do a few steps, and they won't send the same ad again, big deal. It's like Guacamole, I get rid of 4 and 5 more ads appear......I will not buy from someone I didn't ask to send me information.
Is this happening on a laptop or computer? Which browser are you using? I use Brave and it filters out a lot of obnoxious stuff. If I use chrome or firefox mozilla to visit the same sites, I get ads and popups and lots of nuisance stuff.

On Android phones, I know I get warnings from some sites if I'm using Opera because it has ad blockers an the sites want me to turn them off.

I wasn't getting these at home on my desktop, but I take my laptop to Florida and they are appearing here. That makes me wonder, I used the free wi-fi at the airport, that could be the cause of the problem. Maybe they provide free wi-fi, but they sell your email address.
I use Chrome and I have an ad blocker at home, but not on the laptop, but I don't get many pop-ups or ads on the laptop.

driver100 · December 11

xwesx said:
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This is no joke! Downright frigid.

Sorry to hear that xwesx, but just where do you live? The North Pole!

andres3 · December 11

xwesx said:

corvette said:
We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.
I think having cameras is excellent.... just not for snapshot-based traffic citations, because they have zero context. I remember watching an article about the... Denver?... area, where they have cameras that enforce access to HOV lanes (all the time, not just when the actual HOV lane is "open"). People will get citations any time they cross the solid white lines separating from the rest of the freeway, even if they are doing something like avoiding a collision or obstacle! There was apparently a situation at one point where a bad crash had first responders re-routing traffic around the site by directing them to the far right shoulder and the HOV lane on the left. Many hundreds of drivers received citations. LOL

The only way to crack down on this nonsense is to charge any false allegations the same as you or I would be charged for making a false report and serious allegation/charge against someone. It's not just a "mistake" or "administrative" error. It's a system inherently designed to maximize revenue forsaking accuracy and legitimacy. The other abomination is attempting to hold the owner accountable for what should be 100% on the driver. It is the "State" after all, that is presumably licensing that driver.

andres3 · December 11

corvette said:
We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.

There are most definitely "pros" to the tech. On the flip side there are stories where people find themselves in dangerous predicaments from overly aggressive law enforcement with potential trigger fingers that may treat someone like an armed murderer and criminal based on a faulty LPR reading.

cdnpinhead · December 11

xwesx said:
This is no joke! Downright frigid.

Wonder why they bother with the C? Two points: 1) Don't you generally have the readout use Fahrenheit? 2) As we know, -40 is the same in both systems.

stickguy · December 11

That’s how they got around the whole prove it in court requirement that applies to real traffic tickets. They classify camera tickets to be non offender (like parking tickets) so the get sent to the registered owner.

jmonroe1 · December 11

@xwesx said:
I think having cameras is excellent.... just not for snapshot-based traffic citations, because they have zero context. I remember watching an article about the... Denver?... area, where they have cameras that enforce access to HOV lanes (all the time, not just when the actual HOV lane is "open"). People will get citations any time they cross the solid white lines separating from the rest of the freeway, even if they are doing something like avoiding a collision or obstacle! There was apparently a situation at one point where a bad crash had first responders re-routing traffic around the site by directing them to the far right shoulder and the HOV lane on the left. Many hundreds of drivers received citations. LOL

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And that one occurance more than paid back the kick-back that the camera outfit made to the State of Colorado to get approval for the camera system.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · December 11

@xwesx said:

This is no joke! Downright frigid.

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You’re cherry picking with your choice of the Centigrade temp scale. If you used the Fahrenheit scale it would have shown it was warmer, right?.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · December 11

@andres3 said:
There are convictions in Chicago for that very payoff thing you mentioned. Guaranteed Chicago wasn't an outlier, other than some people got caught and prosecuted, whereas in many jurisdictions prosecutors may have looked the other way.

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Is it possible that the prosecutors were in on the deal? Nah, that could never happen, huh?

jmonroe

xwesx · December 11

cdnpinhead said:

xwesx said:
This is no joke! Downright frigid.

Wonder why they bother with the C? Two points: 1) Don't you generally have the readout use Fahrenheit? 2) As we know, -40 is the same in both systems.

As I have the option on that car, I always have the temp set to Celcius. I enjoy the conversion process with the kids, and it helps keep me sharp on being able to do that quickly since I pass through Canada so frequently.

For reference, I did choose the -40C display strategically simply because it is effectively the same temperature in either scale at that point.

snakeweasel · December 11

andres3 said:

corvette said:
We have access to LPR data at work, it's super helpful in investigating potential insurance fraud. People who hit a deer, add full coverage to their policy, and then report the deer hit that miraculously occurred days after they added the new coverage, are getting caught. As well as other people who are inclined to be untruthful to take advantage of a situation.
There are most definitely "pros" to the tech. On the flip side there are stories where people find themselves in dangerous predicaments from overly aggressive law enforcement with potential trigger fingers that may treat someone like an armed murderer and criminal based on a faulty LPR reading.

And those incidents are exceedingly rare.

snakeweasel · December 11

cdnpinhead said:

xwesx said:
This is no joke! Downright frigid.

Wonder why they bother with the C? Two points: 1) Don't you generally have the readout use Fahrenheit? 2) As we know, -40 is the same in both systems.

I say we should use the Kelvin scale and I think that translates to around 233 degrees.

xwesx · December 11

snakeweasel said:
I say we should use the Kelvin scale and I think that translates to around 233 degrees.

Meh. Kelvin and I don't get along very well because I like negative numbers and he does not!

venture · December 12

The dealer replaced the left rear strut under warranty. They said it was leaking.

I then had a "clunk" when I hit a pothole, manhole cover, speed bump. After about 2 weeks, waiting to see if the suspension need time to "relax" they replaced to right rear strut. I told them it was probably a loose fastener or end link/bushing, yada yada, but they wanted to replace the other one.

As I was leaving the dealer and pulled out onto the highway I was greeted with a clunk.

Now the circus will begin.

jipster · December 12

@corvette said:
IIRC, Discount Tire does free repairs. The Ariya has an inflator kit and the Maverick has an OEM compact spare and a compressor in the road kit I keep under the rear seat. Would Fix-a-Flat have helped? I think I have a can in the Maverick, but it's probably very old.

Highly recommend Discount Tire. Free repairs, tire rotation, and balances for the life of the tires. Bought my Vredestein Tires there about a year ago. Ordered from TireRack ( which they own), delivered to the Discount Tire nearest me.

Picked up a nail in my front tire a couple weeks ago. Drove in that day and they patched it while I waited. When done they spoke the ole Jipster's favorite words... "no charge."

stickguy · December 12

how do you like that brand? I had them high on my list of replacements if we keep the Acura long enough.

corvette · December 12

@jipster DT and TR seem to be further down the road (see what I did there?) in their merger and all of the tires I've recently looked up are priced identically at both storefronts.

jipster · December 13

@stickguy said:
how do you like that brand? I had them high on my list of replacements if we keep the Acura long enough.

I really like my Vredestein Hitrac tires. Great blend of comfort, control, and longevity (70k miles). Excellent traction in all elements... good in snow. I've had them for a little over 20k miles.

nyccarguy · December 13

venture said:
The dealer replaced the left rear strut under warranty. They said it was leaking.

I then had a "clunk" when I hit a pothole, manhole cover, speed bump. After about 2 weeks, waiting to see if the suspension need time to "relax" they replaced to right rear strut. I told them it was probably a loose fastener or end link/bushing, yada yada, but they wanted to replace the other one.

As I was leaving the dealer and pulled out onto the highway I was greeted with a clunk.

Now the circus will begin.

In the Legacy or the Forester?

jipster · December 13

@corvette said:
@jipster DT and TR seem to be further down the road (see what I did there?) in their merger and all of the tires I've recently looked up are priced identically at both storefronts.

Don't know if the same tires bought from DT and TR have different "born on dates", or are taken from the same warehouse. But, when I called TR to order the tires and asked, they said the manufacturerd date on the tires I was ordering would be 5 months young. Not great, but reasonable.

venture · December 13

nyccarguy said:

venture said:
The dealer replaced the left rear strut under warranty. They said it was leaking.

I then had a "clunk" when I hit a pothole, manhole cover, speed bump. After about 2 weeks, waiting to see if the suspension need time to "relax" they replaced to right rear strut. I told them it was probably a loose fastener or end link/bushing, yada yada, but they wanted to replace the other one.

As I was leaving the dealer and pulled out onto the highway I was greeted with a clunk.

Now the circus will begin.
In the Legacy or the Forester?

The Legacy

andres3 · December 13

stickguy said:
That’s how they got around the whole prove it in court requirement that applies to real traffic tickets. They classify camera tickets to be non offender (like parking tickets) so the get sent to the registered owner.

Before they can typically do exactly what you wrote above, they typically have to pass a law making the unlawful lawful. A law to circumvent due process and common sense, and calling moving violations (infractions) some kind of civil offense for much less dollars (but easier for the State to collect).

They just did so recently in California and the Governor approved it under some guise of "safety."

The Governor of my State also allowed me to be sent a Vehicle licensing and registration renewal fee of well over $500 for a 2018 Macan; yes, that means it's going into it's 8th year and still well over $500

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andres3 · December 13

corvette said:
@jipster DT and TR seem to be further down the road (see what I did there?) in their merger and all of the tires I've recently looked up are priced identically at both storefronts.

Sure makes price match guarantees easier doesn't it?

andres3 · December 13

xwesx said:

This is no joke! Downright frigid.

I believe that snowflake symbol goes on at +40F or lower, at zero it should become two snowflakes.

oldfarmer50 · December 13

Question on Jeep Wrangler “death wobble”. Guy at work has a late model (2017 maybe) Wrangler with about 80k that developed a severe vibration in the front end. Sounded like the dreaded DW I’ve read about. How much does that cost to fix?

Michaell · December 13

@andres3 said:
I believe that snowflake symbol goes on at +40F or lower, at zero it should become two snowflakes.

37 degrees in our outback

tjc78 · December 13

I’m truly a sick person … snow coming, truck wedged into garage so I don’t have to clean it off and I’m grilling in sub 40 degrees temps

explorerx4 · December 13

Wife just told me we have a Level 1 snow event, our first one since moving here.
We'll have to see how it plays out as it is a lake effect storm.
Funny story from many years back.
Wife flew into CVG to visit our daughter going to Miami U, Oxford Ohio.
It was snowing, so she rented a 4WD Jeep Liberty.
She dove an AWD Ford Escape, so it would kick into AWD as needed.
The Liberty had a transfer case shift and she couldn't figure out how to put into 4WD, so she called a brother in law who also had a Liberty to help out.
She also called me to tell me the plows on the highway didn't have the plows down so they weren't clearing any snow.
After getting onto the more local roads to get to the school, she got pulled over by some sort of LEO.
He asked her "What are you doing on the road, Don't you know it's a Level 1 storm?"
She said "I'm from Connecticut and don't know what a Level 1 storm is. We just call this some snow".
The guy was PO'ed but told her to drive straight to the school and stomped off.
That's why I'm excited about out first Level 1 storm.

jmonroe1 · December 13

@explorerx4 said:
Wife just told me we have a Level 1 snow event, our first one since moving here.
We'll have to see how it plays out as it is a lake effect storm.
Funny story from many years back.
Wife flew into CVG to visit our daughter going to Miami U, Oxford Ohio.
It was snowing, so she rented a 4WD Jeep Liberty.
She dove an AWD Ford Escape, so it would kick into AWD as needed.
The Liberty had a transfer case shift and she couldn't figure out how to put into 4WD, so she called a brother in law who also had a Liberty to help out.
She also called me to tell me the plows on the highway didn't have the plows down so they weren't clearing any snow.
After getting onto the more local roads to get to the school, she got pulled over by some sort of LEO.
He asked her "What are you doing on the road, Don't you know it's a Level 1 storm?"
She said "I'm from Connecticut and don't know what a Level 1 storm is. We just call this some snow".
The guy was PO'ed but told her to drive straight to the school and stomped off.
That's why I'm excited about out first Level 1 storm.

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Just between you and me, but I’d rather get excited over a Level 1 heat wave.

jmonroe

xwesx · December 13

Wait, so you're saying that people aren't allowed out during a storm?! Man, I would have a blast with that....

nyccarguy · December 13

@oldfarmer50 said:
Question on Jeep Wrangler “death wobble”. Guy at work has a late model (2017 maybe) Wrangler with about 80k that developed a severe vibration in the front end. Sounded like the dreaded DW I’ve read about. How much does that cost to fix?

My best friend just had this fixed on his ‘17 Wrangler. I think the solution was new front shocks, rear shocks, and there is a third shock up front that was replaced and the steering dampener. Similar miles.

corvette · December 13

I think there's an aftermarket steering stabilizer available, but I have no clue on its effectiveness.

jmonroe1 · December 13

@oldfarmer50 said:
Question on Jeep Wrangler “death wobble”. Guy at work has a late model (2017 maybe) Wrangler with about 80k that developed a severe vibration in the front end. Sounded like the dreaded DW I’ve read about. How much does that cost to fix?

My best friend just had this fixed on his ‘17 Wrangler. I think the solution was new front shocks, rear shocks, and there is a third shock up front that was replaced and the steering dampener. Similar miles.

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According to this link, the “track bar” is the most common culprit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iFd0tYY0XY&t=155

jmonroe

explorerx4 · December 13

@jmonroe1,
A Level 1 winter storm is all I've got right now.

driver100 · December 13

jmonroe1 said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

Question on Jeep Wrangler “death wobble”. Guy at work has a late model (2017 maybe) Wrangler with about 80k that developed a severe vibration in the front end. Sounded like the dreaded DW I’ve read about. How much does that cost to fix?

My best friend just had this fixed on his ‘17 Wrangler. I think the solution was new front shocks, rear shocks, and there is a third shock up front that was replaced and the steering dampener. Similar miles.

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According to this link, the “track bar” is the most common culprit:

jmonroe

Good detective work!

ab348 · December 13

explorerx4 said:
Wife just told me we have a Level 1 snow event, our first one since moving here.
We'll have to see how it plays out as it is a lake effect storm.

I know lake effect storms can dump a lot of snow in adjacent areas, but my understanding is that it is quite localized.

The amount of weather fear-mongering online and in the media is out of control. One local weather hobbyist got reposts on FB for a long treatise he wrote about the dangerous storm we would be facing yesterday. When he warned of “heavy flurries” I knew he was not to be taken seriously.

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