Honda Accord Problems 2000-2005

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  • pete1pete1 Member Posts: 3
    I've had an '03 Accord EX for 8 months now and have 8K miles on it. Aside from the noises coming from the headliner that others have written about, the car is very quiet and I am very happy with it. The question I have is about idling. When driving with the HVAC in "auto" mode, the engine seems to idle low and at night I notice the headlights dim intermittently. I figure its the AC compressor cycling on and off, but it seems that it shouldn't be so noticeable. Has anyone else noticed this problem? Thanks!
  • pete1pete1 Member Posts: 3
    My seat shifts when braking or cornering too. Do you know if there is a TSB on this issue?
  • eric227eric227 Member Posts: 8
    I have a 2004 EX V-6 and my headlights dim as well when the compressor cycles on or off. I've also noticed that with or without auto climate control on that they dim if you're idling at a stop light and have your foot on the brake. When I take my foot off the brake, the lights brighten. This only impacts the headlights. All of the interior lights stay the same brightness at all times.

    I also have the headliner rattles from the sun shade whether it's open or closed.

    The car is 5 months old and only has 2800 miles on it. I'm making a list of all of these issues for when I go for my first oil change next month.

    I like the car, but cannot say I love it.
  • pete1pete1 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the response. Yeah, I know what you mean about liking it but not loving it. There are a few minor but irritating issues. Maybe the dimming headlights is a Honda hallmark!
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Have been talked about for a while. I know our 1998 Accord did the same thing. It's no big deal. Looks like the voltage regulator is a little slow at adjusting the voltage when a new load comes on-line.
  • stevem327stevem327 Member Posts: 98
    I have an '03 LX Accord with 12,000 miles and my headlights dim slightly when the AC kicks on but I don't recall them dimming while applying the brakes (although I'll check for that tonight). I've heard of this in many other car makes and models as well, so I think it's just the way things are (for lack of a more technical explanation).

    Also, like other owners, I have a few rattles on rough roads only, but overall I'm very happy with the car so far and hope to get well over 100,000 miles out of it.
  • blaneblane Member Posts: 2,017
    Mine was intermittant too. They took my word for it before ordering the part. No, it behaved normally when I first brought it into the shop. The Sunglass Bin started opening as I drove of the lot. So, I turned around just to prove to them that I wasn't completely nuts.
  • 77hchbck77hchbck Member Posts: 24
    If you have a 7th Gen, then TSB 03-069 might be what you're looking for for the brakes.

    I haven't seen the seat issue for the 7th Gen, but there were TSBs for the 6th Gen seats. Possibly the same fix for the 7th Gen also.
  • aggie1995aggie1995 Member Posts: 318
    Thanks for the info on the brake TSB.

    Yes I do have a Gen 7 Accord.
  • mellxkmellxk Member Posts: 2
    I don't know if anyone has experienced this one... but here goes...
    I have an Accord 2004 EX which was purchased in January and it has an intermittent window problem. After parking the car and turning off the engine one of the windows will occasionally lower itself about an inch or so. It could be any of the 4 windows. Sometimes 2 of the windows will be down. I usually find out about this when it rains and the back seat and floor get soaked. The dealer says that it is intermittent and they did not experience the problem when I dropped the car off with them.
    I am also familiar about pressing the unlock button on the remote 2x which will cause all 4 windows to come down.. but this is not my problem...
    Anyone with any ideas? Thanks...
  • jchagtdijchagtdi Member Posts: 55
    I have an '03 LX 5 speed, and it has already been in once to have the rotors cut. I still have a terrible vibration when braking from a high speed. The brakes hold fine, but the vibration is really bad. Sorry about the newbie question, but are the 2003+ models the Gen7 Accord? Does this service bulletin instruct dealers to replace the rotors? I don't think cutting the rotors will quite "cut" the problem, but perhaps replacing them with something larger will eliminate the problem.

    I just want to know what I'm talking about if I go to the service department citing TSB numbers. Thanks!
  • stevem327stevem327 Member Posts: 98
    I can answer part of your question. Yes, the 2003+ Accords are considered the "7th Generation" Accords.

    But, sorry, I'm not familiar with TSB 03-069 mentioned above. I know that a number of Accord owners here have had their rotors and pads replaced under warranty/TSB, but I just don't remember the exact number.

    Hopefully someone else will chime in...good luck.
  • dan5dan5 Member Posts: 4
    Help!I have a 2000 V6 4dr Accord that has been stalling on me for the past year. It happens when I turn the car on after being parked, not while driving. The car rumbles and all the dashboard lights go on and the car stalls. It happens at various times (warm/cold weather/parked for short/long time) so it's driving me crazy. I took it to the dealer twice and they can't figure it out bc the check engine light is not on. Today it stalled 8 times before starting.Enough is enough! Does anyone out there have any ideas?
  • keungkeung Member Posts: 28
    Dan5, check out my posting # 7123, regarding my 99 V6 stalling. Difference is mine stalls in weather other than cold. The only thing I can tell you so far is that it is not a " tune up" nor a main relay problem.
  • dan5dan5 Member Posts: 4
    keung, I checked out your post. Seems we have the same problem, but my problem happens in any weather condition. I have only 25,000 miles on the car so you are definitely right about the car not needing a tune up. The first time I went to Honda, they told me that maybe there was water in the tank and I should give it time. I put in some water remover and gave it 4 months but the problem continued. I brought it a second time and they checked the idling and the sensors with no luck. And it continues. I'm paranoid that I will be stranded one day. Do you think that it may be the fuel pump?
  • stroodlestroodle Member Posts: 1
    I have a 1992 Honda Accord. Recently, I've noticed the tachometer and odometer will drop to zero while I'm driving. When this happens, the temperature gage rises. It is intermittant, and sometimes affects the radio reception (there are short pops, like electrical spikes) and today the check engine light came on. A friend told me I could get fault codes by checking a flashing light found on the passenger side floorboard. I did that and got the following pattern: 2 long flashes, then 4 short, followed by 8 short; 1 long and finally, 7 short flashes. Can anyone make sense of any of this?
  • sistarsistar Member Posts: 19
    my 98 accord (4-cylinder) is reaching 90 k, and this is my first major service ever. Is there anything that is not included in this service that I should also get done?
  • bd21bd21 Member Posts: 437
    You only need to have done what is clearly spelled out in your maintenance schedual in the manual that came with the car. All Honda dealers will do far more than Honda requires and of course they will be charging for it. The main issue is to have the timing belt changed and the transmission fluid is probably due a change. Most dealers will automatically change your water pump, since the timing belt rides on it. Expect to pay $600 + or - $100. All dealers are different on price and what they actually do, so call around. Good luck!
  • martinmartin Member Posts: 1
    I have been reading with interest the posts. Here are three comments:

    1. The new Accord's seem more sensitive to tire pressures than older ones were. I have found many of the rattles/squeaks will appear if the pressure drops more than 1 pound.

    2. An additional bit of foam insulating tape on the outside of the glovebox itself (ie the black plastic box not the lid)seems to cure that one. There already is a strip of foam there but an additional piece seems to cure the problem.

    3. Re the squeaky door gaskets.....silicone lubricant seems to be the solution. Mine would always be noisy after they got wet and dried. This happened on my last Accord and on my series 1 Odyssey before it. A bit of lubricant fixes it.............but keep it away from the leather!

    Apart from that the car has been great. A far superior car to the last Accord (a 2000)and that one was bullet proof for the 3.5 years I had it.
  • 77hchbck77hchbck Member Posts: 24
    Checkout this Batauto link.

    http://www.troublecodes.net/honda/hondadtc.shtml

    Looks like speed sensor or ignition component may be going intermittant. I didn't notice your first code in the chart. Hopefully Auburn63 will see your message and respond. He's the Honda Guru on this board.
  • 77hchbck77hchbck Member Posts: 24
    We can't post URLs of other sites that contain TSB info if they also have forums, but if you google you may find the actual TSB. If there were PM capability on this site, users could exchange info without posting one's email account worldwide.
  • sistarsistar Member Posts: 19
    my 98 accord (4-cylinder) is reaching 90 k, and this is my first major service ever. Is there anything that is not included in this service that I should also get done?
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    E-mail is free. Just check it from time to time. It's no big deal.
  • rcc8179rcc8179 Member Posts: 131
    I am not sure exactly what the TSB says, but I had brake problems on my '03 Accord EX also, starting at 6k miles. The last time I went to the dealership, they replaced the front pads and turned the front rotors (again). They also replaced the rear rotors because there was not enough material left to turn them again.

    The fix for the brake problems is new pads (made of a different material). I doubt they will replace the rotors unless they are already too thin.
  • keungkeung Member Posts: 28
    Dan 5 I do not think it is the fuel pump because when you turn the iginition to position I ( before cranking the engine), you should be able to hear the fuel pump working, a slight buzzing sound.
    As for being stranded I never have because I can keep the car started as long as I apply gas to keep the idle up. Guess wise, I 'm thinking it could be due to a temp sensor, idle air control, however since there are no codes, who knows. I'm just waiting for the warmer weather before I have an independant mechanic look at it. Honda dealerships are of little help, unless you can speak to the mechanic who really knows his stuff. If you do return to the dealer, give them all the information you have so far and ask them to run it by with tech support.
  • bszetobszeto Member Posts: 24
    Hey all,

    Has anyone experienced this problem? Over 50% of the time, regardless of what mode my climate control was in, the climate control decides to go on recirculate in auto mode even though I never pressed that button when leaving the car the night before. It takes me three start-up (and subsequent shutdowns) before the climate control would go back to "normal". Please let me know, thanks!

    As well, when starting up, my front end would "clunk" loudly every now and then...anyone experience this too?

    bszeto
  • atlantabennyatlantabenny Member Posts: 735
    I think the condition may be a real problem if the outside temp is lower than your set temp and yet the system recirculates. You probably know that the system automatically closes all vents (recirculate mode) to maximize cooling if outside temperature is significantly higher (e.g., 65 degrees desired, 80 outside).

    Also, the system seems to be sunlight-sensitive in that if outside temps are high and you're passing through shaded streets, the system won't try to cool as much.

    If your system behaves similarly in the above situations, it's probably working normally. Not to say that Honda shouldn't improve on the "shaded street" behavior.
  • rda27nerda27ne Member Posts: 8
    I have an 03 Accord EXV6 with the 5speed Automatic and experience a whining sound when I am decelerating from the 60 - 35 mph range. Does anyone else that owns a 03 experience this and is normal?
  • ml_2000_accordml_2000_accord Member Posts: 2
    I began changing the disk break pads on my 2000 Accord for the first time. The front disk break pads were no problem to change. When I tried to change the rear disk break pads, I could not get the caliper piston pushed back up into the caliper, which is required since the new pads are so thick. I used a C-clamp just like I did with the front caliper piston, but it wouldn't budge. The two main differences is that the rear caliper and piston are much smaller, and the rear caliper has a cable attached for the emergency hand break. I made sure the emergency break was not engaged, so that is not the problem. The Chilton repair manual I have does not make any mention of a special way to push the piston back up into the caliper, it just says don't try to "force" it if the piston binds.
    Does anyone know of any trick to use on the rear piston?? I also made sure that I opened the break fluid reservoir and removed some fluid when I pushed the front pistons back into their calipers so the fluid did not overflow, so that's not causing a problem.

    Any and all ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.
  • 96honda196honda1 Member Posts: 1
    I own a 1996 Honda Accord EX that is stalling. It has 104,000 miles with regular maintenance. When I turn the car on it stalls in hot or cold weather and have even had it stall while driving which is very dangerous. It was taken to the dealer, they cleaned the throttle body, did a fuel induction and replaced the spark plugs. The problem still continued to I replaced the ignition coil, distributor and rotor. I have seen several posts with the same problems and was wondering if anyone had found a solution. I am thinking the electrical portion of the ignition or main relay?????
  • dan5dan5 Member Posts: 4
    I feel your pain. If you read my posts, you will see what I'm talking about. I have brought my car to Honda twice and they are clueless. My problem is that the check engine light is not activating when my car stalls so a problem code is not being generated. They told me that they won't be able to figure it out unless they hold the vehicle for a few days and duplicate the problem. I went to my own mechanic and he replaced the spark plugs but the problem continued. I'll let you know if I ever find out what the problem is and please let me know the outcome of yours.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    When you pushed the piston of the front calipers back in the "caliper housing", the fluid was displaced back into the master cylinder reservoir. At this point in time, you might have the master cylinder reservoir completely filled, (overfilled). There is no room in the master cylinder for the additional fluid from the pistons of the rear brakes, (when you try to push the piston back into the caliper). Try opening the "bleeder" on the caliper. Wear splash proof safety goggles when working on this project!!!!!!!!! If the master cylinder reservoir is overfilled you could have a problem with "brake release"!
  • alcanalcan Member Posts: 2,550
    Rear caliper pistons are mounted on jackscrews, operated by the parking brake mechanism. The pistons must be rotated clockwise while applying pressure, to thread them back down the jackscrews. Make sure the outer dust boots aren't sticking to the pistons or they'll tear. If so, a shot of WD40 and a small screwdriver work well there.
  • nharpistnharpist Member Posts: 1
    I seem to hear the thud of my ABS upon going down my driveway soon after starting. The problem is I hear the same thud and vibration in my gas pedal several times during my outing. It is annoying and I wonder if this is common or is some type of repair required. Thanks !
  • asafonovasafonov Member Posts: 401
    There is a Honda TSB that directs the dealer to replace and re-weld an underbody panel. When this was done (took 3 days to get the part), the annoying clunks when accelerating from a stop went away completely. I don't have the TSB with me but can post more information if requested.
  • oldsroyaleoldsroyale Member Posts: 11
    Just picked up an 04 Accord EX V6 cpe 5A last month. I've noticed a few problems, some of which I've read about on here, and others not mentioned.

    1) Bad rattle/creak from headliner/A-pillar/dash assembly on drivers side. I will take it into the shop for this one- it's that bad. Also, buzzing from driver door trim, and rattle in rear deck.

    2) Hesitation after startup, immediately after forward gear's initial engagement. You put it in gear, tap the gas, and it hesitates, almost like if you're letting up on a clutch too fast. Then it works fine the rest of the trip. Irritating when parallel parking.

    3. Yes, I notice the headlight dimming mentioned in earlier posts.

    All in all, I am happy, but am a little disappointed due to some workmanship issues.
  • bnestibnesti Member Posts: 5
    I have a 2004 Accord EX, with about 4k miles on it. I just recently noticed a sound in the dashboard (or below) whenever I hit a dip or bump in the road.

    It is coming from the passenger side of the car, kind of below the glove box area... It sounds like something maybe rotating, and it briefly makes contact with its housing, or something... kind of like a bicycle tire would rub a bent fender.

    It is not real loud, but it is definitely there. I think it maybe the heat/ac fan... but it will make the sound even if I turn the heat/ac off... will the fan still rotate with the heat/ac off??

    Any ideas? I am going to take it to the dealer, but just wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on the source..

    Thanks.

    Bryan
  • webexplorerwebexplorer Member Posts: 21
    Hi asafonov, could you provide more information on the TSB? I suspect my EXV6 is having the same problem. There's a flexing/buckling noise from the floor whenever I brake or accelerate. Thanks in advanced.
  • chucko3chucko3 Member Posts: 793
    I believe it's 03-058.

    I have an 03EXV6. Can anyone confirm the SRS light comes on and stays on for a second after the engine started?
    Thanks.
  • rcc8179rcc8179 Member Posts: 131
    All the warning lights on the dash (excluding door ajar, low fuel, maintenance required lights) will come on for a couple seconds when the car is first started. The systems run through a quick check, and it shows you that the bulbs are working.
  • whitecloud1whitecloud1 Member Posts: 268
    I have an '03 V6 Coupe; no Navi. I figured out that when exiting the car at the end of the day, it seems best to hit the OFF button on the climate control. No clunk upon startup because the system is not trying to perform from the last setting input to it. As soon as you turn the key things start happening. On AUTO my car goes to recirc mode too. I haven't left it in AUTO long enough to see the recirc turn off.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    Recirc does turn off, but it tends to take a while. The system on my '03 V6 sedan seems to stay in recirc much longer than my previous '00 V6 sedan.

    And of course it depends on the outside temperature... this morning, it was around 40 degrees F in my area, and recirc was off when I started the car. I find that if the outside temp is in the 60s or higher, the recirc is usually on when the car is started.
  • chucko3chucko3 Member Posts: 793
    Sorry, my mistake. It's the Side Airbag Cutoff light I was asking about.
    Yes, I am aware of the indicators will come on for a few seconds when you turn the key to ignition-ON position.
    I guess the Side Airbag Cutoff stays on for a couple seconds more after the engine started so it can determine to turn the passenger's side airbag on or off. So I am O.K. with that now.

    Last night, I read about this indicator in the user's manual. It says the indicator comes on and stays on if you are driving without a front passenger. If you don't see this, bring it to the dealer for a check-up.

    I don't recall I saw the indicator came on and stayed on when I was driving alone.
    Does anyone experience the same thing? Or the manual is wrong?
  • ken972ken972 Member Posts: 162
    It will come on and stay on if it senses something small on the seat. Its designed to turn off the air bag when it detects a small child sitting there. So it will also put the light on if you have anything on the seat of a decent weight.
  • sflorasflora Member Posts: 35
    I had a similar noise caused by the front brakes. I can't remember the details exactly, something about a back plate making contact with the disc? Anyway, fixed by the dealer under warranty.
  • webexplorerwebexplorer Member Posts: 21
    The fabric on my 03EXV6 A-pillar start to sag or bubble up. I assume that this is covered under warranty, but if I bring this to the dealer, do they have to take the dashboard apart? I'm concerned that more rattles (I've enough of them!) will be introduced by doing this. Any advice? Thanks.
  • burd4822burd4822 Member Posts: 1
    I have had some terrible wind noise from the front driver and front passenger windows on my 03EXV6. There was a bulletin for the fix that the dealer did, but it did not fix the problem. The car has been in 4 times for the same problem, each time it is good for a few days then it is back, just as bad, or worse. The last 2 times they replaced the seals around the doors and added felt around the window seal. Guess what... The noise is still there. I have test drove another 03EXV6 and it does not have this noise. Does anyone else have or had this problem? It is not a matter of life or death, but very annoying.
  • cli4d36pcli4d36p Member Posts: 1
    I've noticed a rattling sound coming from under my car when idling and possibly when driving at higher rpms. I am guessing it could have something to do with the spark plugs and/or premature ignition. Is this a possibility? What else might it be?
  • ssteelmassteelma Member Posts: 15
    The clicking/popping from my A-pillar area actually increased after my fourth attempt at repair. Unfortunately, it seems this noise turns from "constant and disturbing" in colder weather to just "infrequent and irritating" as the temps rise. Will probably have to wait until fall to have a HOA representative hear these noises without determining me as "picky".

    As another poster mentioned, I have a clicking noise when pressing the outside of the fender at the driver's side A-pillar. After some initial hope with some road testing found that stopping it was unrelated.

    I am now pursuing arbitration, which is required prior to "lemon lawing" in this state.

    It has been implied (they won't tell you anything for sure much less put it in writing) these noises are a "characteristic" of this car. Repairs were done to minimize the effects of this "characteristic". So, in other words they want me to "lump it".

    I used to read these boards and think that people discontent with their Hondas were losers, malcontents, trolls or employed by Toyota. Now I pay for that attitude because I have my lemon.....pray it doesn't happen to you.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    I guess I don't understand how they can take the position that this is a characteristic of the car when so many of them don't exhibit the problem.

    Sorry that this is causing you so much grief. For the record, it isn't just Honda... my cousin had a transmission failure several years ago on a 2 year old Corolla and she had to take Toyota to arbitration to get them to pay for it. She'd never even consider buying another Toyota after that experience.
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