FYI I meant to say "shorted" in my last post... not shorter (hehehe oops).
Just to confirm: both lights on the doors come on when the passenger door is opened, right? Then it sounds to me like your drivers door pin is stuck in the closed position. I know on most cars they are very easy to replace. The 97 may have used a very common style (hopefully) that you can pick up locally. If it is Honda specific then it's your call. Takes about 4 min. to replace if all goes well. And on most it is only one wire
If you are comfortable with things you could remove the switch and ground the wire on the body of your car (pick a spot near the opening where the switch was). This is only if it is a one wire style switch. The light should come on. If this occurs then the switch is the problem.
I need to do a valve adjustment on my 95 accord. It has the 4 cyl. in it. I was just wondering if anyone has ever done one and if you could tell me how often it needs to be done. I just got the car and just by listening to it you can tell it needs it. I am going to go out and get a book for it tomorrow. thanks.
Rarely if ever. It's only required when the valves are noisy. Get a shop manual and follow the procedure. It's easy to do if you are mechanically inclined.
I now have 4200 miles on my '04 6 spd 6 cyl. Accord coupe and the brakes continue to grab, as bad or worse than the day I bought it. Honda service says all '04 Accords are like this, with "sensitive brakes," and there is nothing that can be done about it. The car wash kid almost went through the windshield! Can anything be done or must I live with this for as long as I have the car?
Its not really vibration on gas paddle. It feel that its the engine running rough when below 2000 RPM and that's why I feel it in the paddle. Cause once I go above that its smooth. What do you guys think about that?
We bought our 04 EX V6 in Oct 03. So far we love the car, but we too have a had the ABS and TCS warning lights come on for extended periods (mostly during wet weather, but have persisted fro days even while it was dry out). The dealer of course has no solution because they're always out by the time we bring them in for service. Any advice is appreciated.
We take extremely good care of the car, but the only other problem so far is that I noticed a small tear in the weather striping on the rear passenger side door. Not sure if they'll cover that under warranty, but I'll ask next time we're in.
We are trying to convert our R-12 A/C system that has been out of freon for a couple of years to R-134a. It is a 1988 Honda Accord Lxi 4Dr and is too old to spend hundreds of bucks letting a mechanic revamp the system.
We bought a retrofit kit from Interdynamics and it seems so easy to do. Our only issue is differentiating between the LOW pressure valve and the HIGH pressure valve. One valve is located on a copper tube and seems to come out of/or go into the evaporator (easy to access). The other valve is a little less accessible and is on some rubber tubing and seems to come out of/or go into the compressor.
PLEASE HELP! We've been warned "never to charge on the high side" but we can't find any documentation or diagrams that clearly show us which is which.
It's the suction side/low pressure fitting, which might have a blue cap with an "L" on it. However, servicing it is probably a waste your time. If the system has been down for that long, all of the seals and the compressor are most likely shot. An R-134 conversion only works on a tight system and even then, most people aren't happy with the degradation in cooling. You are most likely looking at a new compressor and dryer at a minimum at over a $1000, if you are lucky. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that is realistically where you stand. Good luck and let me know how you come out.
Thanks for your advice. I suspected as much but thought maybe there was a chance. At this point, anything is better than nothing in the heat of FL. If it doesn't work, then we're no worse off (I hope). The car still runs but is definitely not worth putting $1000 + into it.
I have an 92 Honda with the same problem, but the D4 light does not flash. The D4 light stays on and the P light is on too. While trying to start the car, the battery slowly runs down. Have you found out what is wrong????
I just bought a Honda Accord LX AT a week ago and everytime i make a right turn into an incline (for example, certain parking lots) there comes a very strange noise coming from the engine. I'm not sure if its the transmission or the suspension maybe? It kind of sounds like a spring coiling, but there is also a buzz to the noise. Anybody else experience this? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
PROBLEM: At 400 miles, brake pads began to grind excessively and stopping distances increased.
SOLUTION: New brake pads
PROBLEM: At 3000 miles, brakes began to shimmy when pressed at freeway speeds.
SOLUTION: New brake pads; rotors machined
PROBLEM: At 7500 miles, brakes began to shimmy again when pressed at freeway speeds.
SOLUTION: New front/rear brake pads/rotors
PROBLEM: At 12000 miles, brakes began to shimmy again when pressed at freeway speeds.
SOLUTION: Traded Accord for 04 Toyota Highlander
While it's true that the Highlander may come with its own set of problems, the issues I had with the Accord seemed unsolvable, so I thought it best to try something else.
Hi I Clarkgrizwald I recently started feeling the gas pedal vibration on my 2004 ex v6. I feel it only between 1000 and 2000RPM. I am wondering if thats what you feel or felt. Was this ever fixed for your car, if so please describe how they fixed it. I would like to know more about this i complain to dealer. THANKS!
My 04 EX V6 does this as well. I only got about 300 miles on it and noticed it right away when I bought the car. I guess if other peoples cars are doing it its not just mine.
I think my '04 Accord EX V6 has warped brake rotors because whenever I brake, most times I get a little pulse from the brakes. I'm about to take the car into the dealership for its 15,000 mile service. Can I get the dealer to replace the rotors and calipers, or will they just resurface them? I also painted the front calipers red, will that cause an issue to why they might not replace or resurface the rotors under warranty? I know red paint can't possibly cause the rotors to warp, but with dealerships you just never know.
My understanding of Honda warranty is that they will resurface the rotors if there is enough meet on them. If they cannot then they will replace them. Also on the warranty/red paint thing: As long as no modifications cause the problem then you are fine. I added after market rims and Honda said it was fine, but if my wheel bearings failed and it was due to the extra weight from the rims it was my problem Makes sense.
they will resurface the rotors. get ready for lots of questions. i hope that painting the calipers doesn't make them think you are "racing" or otherwise abusing the car. each time i have had my rotors resurfaced in 13k miles, they question me like i am a criminal. maybe your dealer will be more professional.
Does everyones transmission shift very smooth from park to reverse? Mine seems to clunk a little. Only sometimes though. Its a firm clunk, during driving it shifts perfect. Should I be at all worried? I checked the fluid level and it is fine. No other abnormal noises or concerns.
that is a known...personality trait... of Honda automatics. no worries unless you plan on keeping the car past the warranty period. try to put your emergency brake on BEFORE you shift to PARK next time. it might help.
I called my nearest Honda dealer in Waldorf, MD to make an appointment to have my rotors resurfaced and they told me that they probably would not cover them under warranty because the rotors went out of warranty at 12,000 miles. What part of the brakes (besides the pads) are out of warranty at 14,750 miles (the mileage on my '04 Accord)? How much will it cost to resurface the rotors in my car if they are not covered by warranty? Where can I find a complete list of parts that are/aren't covered under warranty?
I highly recommend that you call Honda Customer Relations BEFORE you bring your car to the dealer.
Honda has allowed at least one "goodwill" replacement of the front and rear brakes and rotors to many owners (including me -- a former owner) who have experienced rotor warping at low mileage.
Though you are out of the warranty period, your rotors are exhibiting abnormally early warpage.
The NHTSA lists several TSBs that may apply to your situation (depending on which model you have):
Service Bulletin Num : 03069 Date of Bulletin: OCT 21, 2003 NHTSA Item Number: 10004793 Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Summary: FRONT BRAKE NOISE OR JUDDER. *TT
Service Bulletin Num : 072903 Date of Bulletin: JUL 29, 2003 NHTSA Item Number: 10002987 Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS Summary: REQUEST FOR FRONT BRAKE ASSEMBLY PARTS. FRONT CALIPERS, ROTORS, AND PADS ON VEHICLES THAT HAVE A CUSTOMER COMPLAINT OF BRAKE JUDDER. *TT
Service Bulletin Num : 011303 Date of Bulletin: JAN 13, 2003 NHTSA Item Number: 10000989 Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Summary: INSPECTION OF BRAKE JUDDER. *TT
Service Bulletin Num : 010103 Date of Bulletin: JAN 01, 2003 NHTSA Item Number: 10001798 Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:DRUM:SHOES/LININGS Summary: REAR BRAKE SHOE KITS NOW AVAILABLE. *TT *JB
In addition, you may want to point out to the Honda Customer Relations rep that there are now more than 150 brake-related complaints on the NHTSA site, most of which are related to rotor warping and vibration.
Though I eventually decided that the brake problem on my car was unsolvable, I found that a polite but firm approach with Honda helped them "see the light" as far as authorizing free repairs.
Sounded like my 89 Accord after its first set of rotors. The problem is unsolvable since then. My next car to replace the 89 might be a Highlander too.
Have you been dealing with rotor issues for 15 years? I couldn't take it after 16 months
Ironically, some Highlander owners have complained on the boards about rotor issues as well, though the issues cited tend to appear at around 30,000 miles (as opposed to every 3,000 to 5,000 miles with my Accord).
You've gota be kidding me?! Call American Honda like now. That doesn't sound right. Here in Canada I had my pads (pads!) replaced @ around 17,000 miles due to noise. Not even a sound outa the dealer... they were happy to have me there. Did about 3 other TSB's and probably made no $$ off of me.
Yes, 14+ years after one year trouble free. I am so sick and tired of having the rotors turned or replaced. A new set of rotors would usually last 3+ years (1 year trouble + 1 year riding with the vibration + 6 months trouble free after resurfacing + 6 months or more with vibration).
Last July 03, put on new calipers, rotors and pads. The vibration is coming back now. Let's see if the car can last another year before I have the rotors resurface. I get used to the vibration. So it doesn't bother me much. Other than (front) brakes, this car is a muscle machine. ;-)
So far the brakes on the other 03EXV6 behave very nice after almost 2 years. It has only 9K miles though. It's a weekend car. Really appreciate the power of V6 after driving a 4-cyclinder car for 15+ years.
It sounds like your 03 Accord is treating you well so far. Aside from the brake issue, I thought it was a lovely car. If you don't have the brake issue, it's even better!
Granted, I have only about 9,000 miles on my 2004 EX V6 Coupe, but my brakes have performed flawlessly since I took possession of my car last December.
I still couldn't figure out what is this noise coming from the front passenger side. It happened when going over bumps or joints or manhole cover ... etc. It's a '04 4 door 4 cylinder.
I checked the air filter behind the glove box, but cannot reproduce the noise.
My problem began with the driver's side window starting to move more slowly than usual. Then is started making a noise as though it was rubbing against rubber. Now the window moves forward and back as though it is coming off the track.
Have you checked to make sure that your window is all the way up? That there is nothing rolling around in the storage pockets at the bottom of the passenger door? That there is nothing rolling around on the floor beneath or next to the passenger seat?
Thanks Blane. Windows are all up, nothing in the storage pocket, and also checked that nothing is "movable" underneath the passenger seat. Oh... also checked sun visor. The car is running great, except this noise is driving me crazy. Any similar issues and the fixes are highly highly highly appreciated. I'll try them all out. Thanks a lot. TTB
Tom I am very interested to hear more about this problem you are having. I may be in the same boat with my pasanger side window. Is yours a 03-04? I cannot take my car to Honda until I am sure it is a manufactures defect. This is due to the pasanger side getting hit in an accident (not the door). I want to make sure b4 they tell me "sorry that collision caused this"
I don't have any rattles or noises in my '03 EXV6, though I continue to keep my fingers crossed that they don't creep up on me. I typically listen to the radio at a level of 4, so I think I'd hear them.
You, Jebinc, and I all got our cars within days of each other - Jebinc had his replaced almost immediately, and you're having all those brake problems - I'm nervous!!
As an aside, when I was having the transmission recall work and state inspection done, I mentioned the problems that some are having with the brakes, and asked what they would do. Without blinking, the service manager said, "replace the brakes for you" and then made me promise that if I even *think* there is a problem with them, to contact him immediately.
I may have lucked out with my particular '03, but I sure did with my dealer!
I have a 97 Honda Accord LX, and on and off for a long time, there are a few drops of liquid that leaks onto my legs when the AC is on. It stopped for a long time, then it happened again today. I turned the AC off, and I noticed foul smelling smoke coming into the car from the AC vent. Does anyone know what this is, or what to do about it? I'm selling the car within 6 months, and want it to be in good shape, but don't want to spend a huge amount fixing this. Thanks.
The moisture that the AC removes from the air is vented out of the car via a tube that is located somewhere near the fire wall. That is why you find water dripping under the car when you use the AC. Over time this vent tube may become clogged with dirt or mold. Thus, the reservoir under the dash overflows and the water drips into the passenger compartment. A quick fix is to get under the car, locate the vent tube and clear the blockage using a wire hanger or some similar device. Be gentle and don't be surprised if a significant amount of water is vented when you open the blockage If you are also getting a smell, you may want to turn the blower motor on to the high setting and use a disinfectant such as Lysol spray to kill the mold and mildew that is causing the odor. Spray the disinfectant into the intake vents at the base of the windshield. The disinfectant spray will smell for a while, but you will get rid of the mold and mildew smell.
I have a 2003 accord Coupe V6 that I'm very happy with for my daily commute.
When I took it in for the transmission recall last week, I also did the 15,000 miles servicing since I have 16000 miles on the car.
Service manager informed me that the only problem I have is that the back brakes are at 20%..and the front brakes at 80% are fine. I haven't changed my driving habits since my Toyota that I owned previously. 10,000 of those miles are freeway miles. The service manager at Honda couldn't help me.
Has anyone out there experienced such unusual brake wear. Is this a recall on the break system that needs to be addressed? I shouldn't have to replace back brakes every 15000 miles. Has Honda used cheap parts??I have Honda's service number hopefully they can help as well as this forum.
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Just to confirm: both lights on the doors come on when the passenger door is opened, right? Then it sounds to me like your drivers door pin is stuck in the closed position. I know on most cars they are very easy to replace. The 97 may have used a very common style (hopefully) that you can pick up locally. If it is Honda specific then it's your call. Takes about 4 min. to replace if all goes well. And on most it is only one wire
If you are comfortable with things you could remove the switch and ground the wire on the body of your car (pick a spot near the opening where the switch was). This is only if it is a one wire style switch. The light should come on. If this occurs then the switch is the problem.
Thanks Alot..
I wonder if we have to pry the lamp cover.
The car wash kid almost went through the windshield!
Can anything be done or must I live with this for as long as I have the car?
We take extremely good care of the car, but the only other problem so far is that I noticed a small tear in the weather striping on the rear passenger side door. Not sure if they'll cover that under warranty, but I'll ask next time we're in.
Try moving your seat rearward an inch or two. You won't be as likely to stomp on the brake pedal from back there.
i swear i also hear something from the headliner from over the passenger front door.
does anyone see "dimples" in their headliners? they just don't seem too sturdy...
any new TSB's for rattles? oddly enough, my rear package shelf never rattles, so don't want them performing that "fix" per the TSB.
We bought a retrofit kit from Interdynamics and it seems so easy to do. Our only issue is differentiating between the LOW pressure valve and the HIGH pressure valve. One valve is located on a copper tube and seems to come out of/or go into the evaporator (easy to access). The other valve is a little less accessible and is on some rubber tubing and seems to come out of/or go into the compressor.
PLEASE HELP! We've been warned "never to charge on the high side" but we can't find any documentation or diagrams that clearly show us which is which.
I'll keep you posted as to what happens.
Nice...
The brakes would still be able to put a small animal through the windshield tho!
PROBLEM: At 400 miles, brake pads began to grind excessively and stopping distances increased.
SOLUTION: New brake pads
PROBLEM: At 3000 miles, brakes began to shimmy when pressed at freeway speeds.
SOLUTION: New brake pads; rotors machined
PROBLEM: At 7500 miles, brakes began to shimmy again when pressed at freeway speeds.
SOLUTION: New front/rear brake pads/rotors
PROBLEM: At 12000 miles, brakes began to shimmy again when pressed at freeway speeds.
SOLUTION: Traded Accord for 04 Toyota Highlander
While it's true that the Highlander may come with its own set of problems, the issues I had with the Accord seemed unsolvable, so I thought it best to try something else.
I also painted the front calipers red, will that cause an issue to why they might not replace or resurface the rotors under warranty? I know red paint can't possibly cause the rotors to warp, but with dealerships you just never know.
Please advise...
good luck!
Honda has allowed at least one "goodwill" replacement of the front and rear brakes and rotors to many owners (including me -- a former owner) who have experienced rotor warping at low mileage.
Though you are out of the warranty period, your rotors are exhibiting abnormally early warpage.
The NHTSA lists several TSBs that may apply to your situation (depending on which model you have):
Service Bulletin Num : 03069
Date of Bulletin: OCT 21, 2003
NHTSA Item Number: 10004793
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Summary: FRONT BRAKE NOISE OR JUDDER. *TT
Service Bulletin Num : 072903
Date of Bulletin: JUL 29, 2003
NHTSA Item Number: 10002987
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS
Summary: REQUEST FOR FRONT BRAKE ASSEMBLY PARTS. FRONT CALIPERS, ROTORS, AND PADS ON VEHICLES THAT HAVE A CUSTOMER COMPLAINT OF BRAKE JUDDER. *TT
Service Bulletin Num : 011303
Date of Bulletin: JAN 13, 2003
NHTSA Item Number: 10000989
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Summary: INSPECTION OF BRAKE JUDDER. *TT
Service Bulletin Num : 010103
Date of Bulletin: JAN 01, 2003
NHTSA Item Number: 10001798
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:DRUM:SHOES/LININGS
Summary: REAR BRAKE SHOE KITS NOW AVAILABLE. *TT *JB
In addition, you may want to point out to the Honda Customer Relations rep that there are now more than 150 brake-related complaints on the NHTSA site, most of which are related to rotor warping and vibration.
Though I eventually decided that the brake problem on my car was unsolvable, I found that a polite but firm approach with Honda helped them "see the light" as far as authorizing free repairs.
Best of luck to you!
My next car to replace the 89 might be a Highlander too.
Ironically, some Highlander owners have complained on the boards about rotor issues as well, though the issues cited tend to appear at around 30,000 miles (as opposed to every 3,000 to 5,000 miles with my Accord).
Que sera, sera...
I am so sick and tired of having the rotors turned or replaced.
A new set of rotors would usually last 3+ years (1 year trouble + 1 year riding with the vibration + 6 months trouble free after resurfacing + 6 months or more with vibration).
Last July 03, put on new calipers, rotors and pads. The vibration is coming back now. Let's see if the car can last another year before I have the rotors resurface.
I get used to the vibration. So it doesn't bother me much. Other than (front) brakes, this car is a muscle machine. ;-)
So far the brakes on the other 03EXV6 behave very nice after almost 2 years. It has only 9K miles though. It's a weekend car. Really appreciate the power of V6 after driving a 4-cyclinder car for 15+ years.
Good luck to your new Highlander.
It sounds like your 03 Accord is treating you well so far. Aside from the brake issue, I thought it was a lovely car. If you don't have the brake issue, it's even better!
I still couldn't figure out what is this noise coming from the front passenger side. It happened when going over bumps or joints or manhole cover ... etc. It's a '04 4 door 4 cylinder.
I checked the air filter behind the glove box, but cannot reproduce the noise.
Does anyone have any idea what else I can try?
Much appreciated.
TTB
My problem began with the driver's side window starting to move more slowly than usual.
Then is started making a noise as though it was rubbing against rubber.
Now the window moves forward and back as though it is coming off the track.
Any ideas?
Have you checked to make sure that your window is all the way up? That there is nothing rolling around in the storage pockets at the bottom of the passenger door? That there is nothing rolling around on the floor beneath or next to the passenger seat?
You didn't mention what model-year vehicle you are driving. But, if it's still under warranty, a visit to a Honda dealer would be worthwhile.
Windows are all up, nothing in the storage pocket, and also checked that nothing is "movable" underneath the passenger seat. Oh... also checked sun visor.
The car is running great, except this noise is driving me crazy.
Any similar issues and the fixes are highly highly highly appreciated. I'll try them all out.
Thanks a lot.
TTB
You, Jebinc, and I all got our cars within days of each other - Jebinc had his replaced almost immediately, and you're having all those brake problems - I'm nervous!!
As an aside, when I was having the transmission recall work and state inspection done, I mentioned the problems that some are having with the brakes, and asked what they would do. Without blinking, the service manager said, "replace the brakes for you" and then made me promise that if I even *think* there is a problem with them, to contact him immediately.
I may have lucked out with my particular '03, but I sure did with my dealer!
Does anyone know what this is, or what to do about it? I'm selling the car within 6 months, and want it to be in good shape, but don't want to spend a huge amount fixing this.
Thanks.
When I took it in for the transmission recall last week, I also did the 15,000 miles servicing since I have 16000 miles on the car.
Service manager informed me that the only problem I have is that the back brakes are at 20%..and the front brakes at 80% are fine. I haven't changed my driving habits since my Toyota that I owned previously. 10,000 of those miles are freeway miles. The service manager at Honda couldn't help me.
Has anyone out there experienced such unusual brake wear. Is this a recall on the break system that needs to be addressed? I shouldn't have to replace back brakes every 15000 miles. Has Honda used cheap parts??I have Honda's service number hopefully they can help as well as this forum.