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After one weekend and 100-plus miles of driving, I must say that I'm very happy with the car. It's got more than enough power to get me up the hills and on and off the freeway with ease, and it's easy to maneuver. IMHO, the fact that the power steering seems to kick in when the car is moving slowly (in parking lots, etc.) is a real plus.
The only (very minor) comments I'd make to Honda for improvement so far have to do with the positioning of the cupholders (right in front of the CD player and a little far below the dash for my liking, and a little more interior noise than I'm used to - but then, I'm used to my Camry.
My 16-year old son is walking on air - he can hardly wait to get his license (probably within the next two months) so that he can claim the car as his own (if I don't decide to keep it for myself!)
Thanks for your help!
I'm happy for you! I sure would like to have power steering on mine. That's my biggest complaint! Very hard to get out of tight spots. But OK other than that.
I agree about the cup holders, except I don't have a CD player, so that space is just empty in my car (I put a little kleenex box there).
Hope you like it for a long time!
I know its unlikely that a lot of Canadian
DXs are going to get wrecked in your neck of
the woods. My point was that there doesn't
seem to be anything about having a manual
tranny which is an impediment to fitting
power steering. My bet would be that you could
fit parts originally from a USA civic with
auto transmission.
Fellow HB owners -
I've corrected one of my peeves with my civic
by equipping it with a cargo light. It took
about 2hrs, a light fixture from an old
Civic, and a lot of head scratching since the
wiring harness in the 98 unfortunately is
not 'cargo light ready'. I had to run a single
(3A fuse-protected) positive wire back from the
main engine bay fuse box. In the end it was a
very clean install though. The only 'hard'
modification I did was to drill a hole for a
pin switch (auto security type) in the left
speaker trim plate (and the plate under that -
both plastic). I could have made it cleaner
if I'd had a wiring diagram to utilize whatever
circuit gets closed/opened when the hatch is
opened (there must be one -- dash light), or
if I'd been willing to drill into metal
(I wasn't). Anyway, bottom line is that this
is a very do-able modification and it makes a
huge difference if you live out in the country
where there are no lights around.
honda is a US model or Canadian model -
vehicles models are determined by the market they
are produced for, not their country of manufacture. Unless your vehicle made it into the
USA by a very unusual route, yours will be
a USA model not a Canadian model. You could
probably figure it out based on warning labels
etc where there would be different requirements
for different countries, even if the speedo had
been changed from a Canadian (km/h) to USA (mph)
model.
My first time out with this car, I didn't realize I was in the lower gear until I was almost on the freeway on ramp (whew!).
Is this a normal Honda feature, or is there something wrong with my car?
Where can I find more info. on the 99 Si Coupe?? If they are redesigning it for 2000, will there be a new Si model then?? Someone earlier mentioned some online pix, where did you see those??
MB
P.S. I have a '91 Si hatchback, no rust, 93,000 miles....Anyone interested??
Nothing would have happened, so no "whew" was necessary. You probably would have noticed more engine noise than usual, and would have simply moved the shifter into d4. People drive in D3 all of the time, and nothing is hurt.
bowe2,
The new Si Coupe is expected to arrive in Feb. You will have a strong market for your 91 Si. these are HARD to find and are in high demand!
What are your thoughts on the new Civic Si? Any notion of the MSRP yet?
I saw on Honda's web site the new blue color and it looks great!!
By the way, I'm still loving my Civic. Had to put a new tire on it, though - Got a nail.
It will be a fantastic car, but will probably be in short supply. This gets frustrating.
No idea what the MSRP will be, however, they will probably be a waiting list at that price.
Quit driving through construction sites!
How do you think the Si will compare to the Acura Integra? It almost sounds like it will be a similar car with the improvements - and maybe at a similar price.
Beats me where I picked up a nail!! I was at the park taking a walk and when I went back to my car, it was nearly flat! But the folks at Discount Tire took excellent care of me - even though I arrived an HOUR after they closed!!
A couple of weeks ago, I noticed a large screw sticking out of one of my rear tires. I pulled into Discount Tire. They fixed it quickly, and told me " No Charge". I informed them that these were the factory tires and that I hadn't bought them there. It didn't matter, they refused payment!
Will I remember this when one of our many cars needs tires? Sure I will, and that's what they are counting on...SMART!
Back to the subject...Sorry!
Well, the Civic SI may canaballize sales away from the Integra, who knows?
It will be one slick little car in any event!
Do Honda people generally know much about Acuras? I mean, do you share information since they are both basically Honda?
What I'm wondering is, if the new Si is very much like the Integra in capability, performance, and price, how would a person choose between them? No offense to Honda, but I think if all things are equal, I would rather have the Acura name. Know what I mean? How do you intend to promote the Si over the Integra?
I need some advice on prices. I am looking into buying a used hatchback, which seem to be in short supply. The dealer offered a 1998 DX with A/C, automatic transmission, mudflaps and 1,300 miles ($12,200). This is their rental car. How does one price a car like that. I checked the Blue Book on the web and Edmund's but can't find a price.
Also, I am used to manual cars: any comments on the automatic?
Thanks a lot.
Honda has the irritating (IMHO) practice of adding the AC at the dealer and not having a price one can check, so let's ballpark $1000 for AC. This brings you up to $12,574.
Now, looking at the mileage. Edmunds uses .08 cents a mile for the adjustment rate. 1200 miles x .08 = $96. But this was a rental car and I'm willing to bet that the little old lady from Pasadena was not the only one to rent it. :-) So I would triple the mileage and make it $288.
So, I'd consider the base price $12,286. Frankly, that's the most I would pay but regional and other factors play into this. Please, keep us posted on your decision. FYI, I took my pricing info from our 1998 Civic DX pricing.
What do you think, isellhondas?
carlady/host
Has Honda changed the life-cycle of the Civic line
from 4 to 5 years?
Why do you ask that? Have you heard something?
These cars hold their value like no other. I hope it's not already sold if you want it.
As far as a four year cycle...Who knows?
I figured that the 99 Civic would have no changes from the 98 but ther are enough changes to make me wonder.
The word is that the 2000's will be restyled.
I would bet my money that that will be the case but we will find out!
carlady/host
1991, one with 46k miles for $5900 and the other
with 108k for $3900 (all dealer price). We are
buying it for our teenage son to drive between
home and school. Any advice would be appreciated.
I would probably go with the 46K one. My last car had 119,000 miles on it and was starting to need things replaced just as routine maintenance. Like the clutch, radiator, etc. You could easily spend that $2,000 difference on things like that if you buy a car with over 100K miles on it.
Everybody wants low miles, yet when a low mileage car shows up, they suspect something is wrong!
For crying out loud, 46,000 miles on a 91 car really isn't that unusual!
Turning back odometers went out thirty years ago.
Yes, miles are important, but the condition of the car is even more important.
Have it checked out by a Honda dealer. The small cost is well worth it!
carlady/host
I don't believe whatever "Isellvolkswagons" said earlier "Turning back odometers went out thirty years ago."
Odometers are highly tamper resistant and have been that way since the seventies.
Also, the laws are so strict that only a fool would turn back their odometer.
I guess a person could pull the fuse that runs the speedometer and odometer if he or she were a real crook. They could put 50,000 miles on the car, and re connect the fuse.
They would then sign, under penality of perjury, an odometer statement when they sell or trade the car. I guess there are people crooked/dumb enough to do this...
Bottom line, if you don't feel good about the used car or suspect something is wrong - PASS, there are lots more to pick from.
Oh, Zel...Isellvolkswagons? THAT will be the day! I don't even like selling the used ones that come in!
Since 1999 is the last year for this Civic, when can I start looking for deep discounts on close-out? I may trade my 1996 Hatch on a 1999 if the price and financing are right. Would like to upgrade to power steering and 14" wheels, and hopefully snag a purple one.
Also, what about the sedans and coupes? Much chance of big discounts on them?
FYI, at my local dealer, the close out 1997 Accord LX 5-speeds were going for $16,000 just before the new 1998's came out. Sure wish I could have afforded one!! That's a good price, right?
Pam
Does anyone know if there are any price references on the web for Honda dealer-installed options (A/C for example). It makes the haggling difficult if I have no point of reference for dealer's cost.
Thanks
carlady/host
OK. I feel better now.
Now most shoppers are at least a little flexable when it comes to colors. For others, it is, by far, the MOST important thing!!
This drives me nuts with used cars. They will want a certain make and model, but it HAS to be black!
What a life...
LOL! I think we've had this discussion before!!!
Yes, color is important. A person's car is part of his/her life. We look at it every day. Color helps express our personality. Some colors are just beautiful, while others are butt-ugly!
However, my big complaint about Honda right now is that they're offering the SAME 5 colors year after year after year. How dull! Give us some variety! Give us some choice! Update with the times! How annoying to purchase a 1999 Civic Coupe and have it look identical to one purchased in 1996.
As for the Accord... GEEZ! Let's see... we can choose from white, almost-white, almost-white, black, almost-black, and almost-black. White, cream, silver - how boring!! Black, black-green, black-purple - how dark!!! Can't even tell that it's not black unless it's in bright sunlight! Why bother!
Now, color isn't THE most important thing in a car. I would never buy a Ford just because I like the color. But once I decide on the car I want, based on quality, value, reliability, it would be nice if a good color could come with it.
Does this shed any light for you on the subject of color?
BTW, a used car dealer gave me $900. That was about the wholesale cost, and the clutch is about shot (never replaced.
What made you give up the car? And what did you get to take it's place?
Oh, I would agree with you to a point.
Honda likes to keep things simple by not making a ton of different colors. Hopefully everyone will like one or more of them. They do throw in a couple of new ones once in awhile.
What did I replace it with? I haven't bought one yet. That's why I'm all over the forums in the Edmunds Town Hall, trying to decide what to buy.
I understand simplicity, but Honda is delving into monotony with the Civic Coupe. I mean, REALLY! No color change in 4 years??? Come on, guys!
Is there someone at Honda I can complain to?
How about a nice blue? Or maybe purple? Gold? New Penny Copper? Anything!!! PLEASE!!!!!
That doesn't match anything I'm reading on Edmund or any other site.
I think he's either mistaken or misleading. Can anybody confirm that the Civic Hatch is still being made?
Where's Isellhondas? He can tell us!!