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Now, VW's still seem to have oil usage probs. Now it is upside-down rings? Is there such a thing?
Do they 1.8's have the same usage problems?
Only the 2.0 drinks oil.
Revka
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My wife's thinking about the convertible, but is leaning toward waiting for more power.
Is there a convenient source for performance numbers for the 2.0, the GLX and the S?
Interested in comments, experiences, observations, etc.
I just bought a 2003 2.0L GLS Blue Lagoon Beetle which dispels the previous messages saying that
Blue Lagoon was going away and the 2.0L was going away.
Anyway, after the car has sat off for a while and I open the door, I hear an electric motor sound coming from the inside running for a few seconds and stop. I have heard a sound like this before in a Cadillac which was a leveling motor airing up shocks but I don't know what this is. Does anyone have a clue what this could be? If I close the door and open it again it will NOT do it again till I let it sit for a while.
So far I love my car but it only has 200 miles on it.
- Anthony
Lastly, this is a question you may want to also ask someone in the service department at your local VW dealership. Others here may have more to add.... Good luck, and please let us know what you decide. Happy shopping!
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I don't have anything bad to say about the New Bug. I used to own a couple of VWs in my youth, and while they were good, cheap and reliable, the New Beetle is all that, and a very much improved vehicle. When I'm going 80 on the expressway, it feels rock solid and even has a little more in reserve. I paid $17,200; out the door; that included freight, tag, tax & everything.
Ask me in another 90,000 if I really got a good deal, but right now, I'm thinking that I did.
Can any VW owners comment one way or the other?
I see their warranty is a little better than other
car makers.
thanks!
stan
My sister, on the other hand, has a 2001 GL, and says she loves driving the car but will never buy another (it's already had two brake jobs in 45,000 miles, and she had lots of problems with the electrical system).
That said, I'm thinking of trading mine in for a new Subaru Forester XT, mainly due to a change in lifestyle--I've moved to a house on a dirt road, and the NB has virtually no road clearance--not a pretty sight in the winter.
MY QUESTION: Anyone heard of or dealt with a site called Galves? They seem to be the site of choice for dealers, and allegedly (or at least according to the dealer) their trade-in prices for the 99 NB are 3k lower than Edmund's.
Hey you VW NB 1.8 turbo (GLS or GLX)folks out there. How do you like your cars? Anyone got one in a 5-speed? Can you recommend these new buggies even with their less-than-stellar reliability issues?
I note from the previous entry that the audio is no good. True?
How's the gas mileage?
Any response will be much appreciated!
Jeremy
Thanks in advance!
Jeremy
When I first purchased Moxie (oh, that's her name by the way), I was a bit apprehensive because she was standard transmission and I'd never driven stick. After about two weeks of nervous driving I finally found the "sweet spot" and Moxie has been purring like a kitten since.
If you want a hatchback that's completely functional and has an impressive form to boot, the VW New Beetle is it. Some may think that the Beetle has "worn off" its novelty factor -- which it has-- but it hasn't worn off its poetic artistry. Most cars are boxy or some variation thereof. The Beetle is 100% graceful curves! You'll have to remind yourself you're an adult just so you can resist hugging her! Ok, that may be a bit cheesy, so let's get to substance: Just today I had to navigate a sharp turn into a tiny parking space at my overcrowded campus and Moxie's snub little nose and compact design zipped in without needing to maneuver back and forth to find a fit. Very rarely do I find a parking space too small. Try that with an SUV! Another advantage of this car is gas mileage. I took a trip from Austin, TX to San Francisco, CA and only gassed up 6 times-- ROUND TRIP (with lots of driving around town). I'm not one to gauge the exact mile per gallon, but I made the same trip with my old Jeep Cherokee last year and had to gas up more than 10 times.
The interior is just as impressive. I'm 6' tall and my boyfriend is 6'4" (plus 310 lbs!) and we ease in and out of the seats. Granted, the back seat is not as amazing but I've been told by my friends that they find it comfortable. Of course, they're a bunch of shorties! Headroom in the New Beetle is more than ample. The seats are ultra-comfy and supportive.
All in all, the New Beetle is definitely the hatchback for those who can dig it. When you meet another Beetle (or VW) person, you can feel it. Kind of like Mac vs PC (but that's an entirely different topic!). Not that we VW people are better than everyone else-- we just groove to a different beat. And we love every minute of it.
P.S. If you can swing it, go for the leatherette package with moonroof and seat heaters. You'll feel like a queen (or king!)
P.P.S. Did I mention that the 1.8T is amazingly fast?! The greatest part is that I've yet to get anything above a warning when pulled over because cops seem to excuse the terrible cuteness of the Beetle. BUT I'M NOT ADVOCATING SPEEDING. That would be bad.
Jeremy
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Volkswagen Customer Relations
3800 Hamlin Road
Auburn Hills, MI 48326
To Whom It May Concern:
Let me tell you that you are dealing with a very upset customer. I have officially decided not to purchase another Volkswagen or foreign vehicle of any kind for the rest of my life. I have experienced nothing positive with your NEW VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE. The best way for me to explain my unhappiness is to do it in a timeline format. Let us begin!
Date Dealer Comments/Problems Mileage
at Time of Service (from previous service)
June 2, 1998 Forest Imports Purchased my first car, a brand new ’98 VW New Beetle GL, VIN# 3VWBB61CXWM013081 with 85 miles. 85
June 11, 1998 Forest Imports First problem with the vehicle. Only 9 days old. Check ABS light came on. Cause was an electrical malfunction. 230
(145)
July 6, 1998 Forest Imports First recall on the vehicle. Four items replaced due to the recall; air bag wiring, ground wire recall, reposition oil cooler, and electrical malfunction. Also mechanics were having a hard time starting the vehicle. 255
(25)
Sept. 23, 1998 Forest Imports Rear seat head rests were hard to remove in order to enlarge trunk space. Replaced the head rest guides. 1817
(1562)
Oct. 15, 1999 Forest Imports First oil change. Performed at 2,253 miles on the vehicle. Rear head rest molding was installed and 5,000 mile maintenance was performed. 2253
(436)
Nov. 2, 1999 Forest Imports Head rests are still giving difficulties. They are stuck. Replaced guides for head rest and performed owed seat repair. 2633
(380)
Feb. 4, 1999 Forest Imports Remote control sometimes wasn’t working properly. Front and rear splash guards were added. 4106
(1473)
March 11, 1999 Forest Imports Driver side brake light burned out. Another recall (BV). 5843
(1737)
March 30, 1999 Forest Imports No oil found in engine when using the dipstick provided. Cause? Oil leaking? Car was taken for a trip from Addison, IL to Pinckneyville, IL. One-way distance 330 miles. 3-qts. of oil were added for the ride back to Addison, IL. Dealer suggested the car go on an oil consumption test. 6377
(534)
April 14, 1999 Forest Imports Follow-up on oil consumption test. Engine was making a clicking noise. 6901
(524)
May 17, 1999 Forest Imports 10,000 mile maintenance and oil consumption test. 1.5-quarts were added after 350 miles of travel. 8617
(1716)
June 7, 1999 Forest Imports Oil consumption test performed. Added .425/qt. at this time. Oil consumption considered normal. Total miles on car were 9,172 miles. Customer feel burning and loosing oil this early is a bad sign. 9172
(555)
July 6, 1999 Forest Imports Oil consumption test performed. No oil added. 9798
(626)
July 24, 1999 Forest Imports Customer unhappy and uncomfortable with vehicle. Dealer offers to purchase vehicle in exchange for the purchase of a new vehicle. Customer elected to lease because of the problems with the first vehicle. New vehicle is a ’99 VW New Beetle GLX; VIN# 3VWDD21C8XM468637 with 125 miles on it. 1998 Beetle traded-in at 10,226 miles.
1999 Beetle delivered with 125 miles.
Oct. 11, 1999 Forest Imports Right front headlight inoperable. Driver power window moody. Bulb replaced along with window regulator switch. Replaced broken passenger rear parking light lens. 2859
(2734)
Dec. 20, 1999 Forest Imports 5,000 mile service. Rear hatch (trunk) will not open at times with the remote. Dealer performed TSB 5559 to correct problem. 5243
(5000)
March 30, 2000 Forest Imports 10,000 mile service. 10,255
(5012)
Aug. 28, 2000 Forest Imports Check engine light came on. Loose ground wire on battery. 13,581
(3326)
Aug. 31, 2000 Forest Imports Replaced front license plate bracket broken by dealer. Brake light switch was replaced. 13,712
(131)
Oct. 14, 2000 Forest Imports 57 point inspection with oil change. 14,441
(729)
March 12, 2001 Forest Imports Oil change and oil leaking in front end area. Cylinder head cover and gasket were replaced. 16,825
(2384)
Sept. 27, 2001 Larry Roesch Larry Roesch bought out Forest Imports. Oil change and tire rotation. 19,891
(3066)
Feb. 11, 2002 Larry Roesch Oil Leak and Oil Change. Replaced gasket set AGAIN! 23,222
(3331)
June 17, 2002 Larry Roesch Check engine light came on. Faulty MAF and coolant temperature sensor. 25,018
(1796)
Aug. 24, 2002 Larry Roesch Brake fluid flushed and oil changed. 25,781
(763)
Dec. 30, 2002 Larry Roesch Brake light is staying on and won’t shut off. Replaced brake lamp switch. 28,403
(2622)
Jan. 2, 2003 Larry Roesch Car in for oil change. Tech noticed rear brakes are @ 10% and recommends replacement of pads and rotors. Service for pads and rotor performed by MIDAS on 1/11/2003 with a LIFETIME WARRANTY. 28,447
(44)
March 7, 2003 Larry Roesch Oil change. 29,632
(1185)
Aug. 5, 2003 Larry Roesch Oil change. 32,426
(2794)
Nov. 8, 2003 Larry Roesch Passenger headlamp and climate control bulbs are burned out. Recall on brake lamp switch was already replaced once on 12/30/02. 34,388
(1962)
Nov. 10, 2003 Larry Roesch Brake pedal not springing back after being pressed. Faulty brake light switch and replaced it. 34,446
(58)
Nov. 28, 2003 Larry Roesch Brake pedal is still giving problems. Internal brake booster binding slightly. Replaced booster assembly, bleed brakes, and road test. One day car rental. Bill was paid by extended warranty. 34,615
(169)
Jan. 5, 2004 Larry Roesch Headlight bulb burned out. 35,245
(630)
Feb. 16, 2004 Larry Roesch Check engine light came on. Dealer called it SES light. Car needs a secondary air pump assembly (cracked housing). Customer requested brake inspection. Fluid level in master cylinder checked. Owner declined repairs because not covered under extended warranty. Cost would be $700-$800. 36,051
(806)
As you can see, I have quite a time line of unhappiness. Only 7 smooth visits out of 35 for both vehicles. That is only 20% of TRUE SATISFACTION!!!! I will definitely never suggest a VW to anyone!
It would be wonderful if I could just turn this piece of $41+ into the dealer and say keep it per your orders! But I am sure that you would not dare to make a customer happy. I have this car until 7/24/2004 and I plan on turning it in by that time. You have definitely lost two customers; my husband and I.
I have enclosed copies of all the paperwork that I have received from the dealer every time I picked up my vehicle. “Seeing is believing.” I have only 4 more payments on this lease. I feel the car is not even worth the amount I still owe!
After mailing the above 6 page letter to VW of America, they finally called me on 3/2/04 at work just to say that, "because the vehicle is leased and out of warranty that there is nothing they can do." And again for ? time the check engine light came on again after talking to VW of America earlier in the day.
Any ideas????
I do agree that you have every right NOT to buy another VW product and I wouldn't either if I were in your position. I guess I should feel lucky that my Jetta has been trouble free in the 28,000 miles I have had it.
Good Luck and I would suggest a Honda or Toyota for your next purchase.
Why did you lease another Beetle after experiencing so many problems with the first one? This is something I would never do - if I bought a lemon, I would definitely not try the same car again to see if I get lucky this time.
Quite soon I should think that Volkswagen might be saying in a rather different sense: 'Drivers wanted'.
Well, President Klauss, I very much hope you enjoyed my story. For I believe that very soon you will be reading it everywhere.
Sincerely yours,
Dissatisfied VW customer