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VW GTI (All styles)



  • If you want an all-around better and slighly larger car, perhaps it is best to wait for the MkV 2.0 TFSI Golf/GTI to arrive. Good fuel consumptions and better safety/ handling than the outgoing MkIV.
  • It's intertesting to read back a bit and see how the views vary. I have friends w ho love vw (as I do) and others who hate hate hate it, and some people here do.

    One guy a few pages back pretty much said it straight: if you take care of your car, it can last forever.
    Most people don't because it's not worth it to them, but cars live in this world of physics chaos just like we do, but they don't have an immune system to heal themselves with, so they require some care and feeding.

    I've heard you should let ANY engine cool down at idle after highway speed to let it cool off, for example. How many people really do that?

    I agree VW's had it's share of stupid problems. I had the window lifters break on my 1999.5 GTI VR6, I had the MAF problem, the rear windshield wiper doesn't work quite right, the light switch in the passenger mirror doesn't go off always, the right side support arm on the glove box just snapped (I've seen the indentical problem in other mk4's) the gas gauge spazzes out and reads empty half the time, and of course the seat lift handle popped off on the passenger side. I have had more than my fair share of really stupid problems with this car. But I change the oil and filter every 3000 miles and I have yet to have any real mechanical problem with it. Yeah, I onyl have 68,000 on it (I have 3 cars and a bike so it takes a while to build up any real mileage) but to compare, my subaru wrx, has had a shock leak, the abs break (how do you break ABS?) and a few other stupid things. (warped rotors, things like that)
    I take care of my cars, but I drive them hard, and they keep working well. I will say that if you can get a VW manufactured in germany, you're better off than one built in mexico. But they're still fine cars if taken care of.
  • But they're still fine cars if taken care of.

    That's hilarious asfter you list a binch of problems with the car.

    My Jetta 1.8T was a nightmare for engine/mechanical/interior problems. It had nothing to do with the owner and everything to do with poor engineering.

    Similarily my 330i has experienced the same problems - poor electricals, sensors going out, engine software causing problems, etc.

    Flipside, my last two Japanese cars were flawless. It's the inability of BMW/VW AG engineering that may well drive me into an IS250/350. :(
  • nmrtnmrt Posts: 56
    Hello. I have been searcing frantically for a place in these forums where people have posted "prices paid and buying experinece" for a 2005 GTI. I was looking into buying a new 2005 gti 5-speed hoping to get a big discount now that 2006s will be out in the spring. Could anyone please direct me where to look because the last message for the GTI's " Prices paid" forum was in 2004!

    Thanks a lot.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    You could try searching this discussion - there is a box on the left just above the first post and just below the last one on this page that will help you.
  • A lot of people tell me I should do stand up because I'm such a funny guy. I'm glad you think so too.

    The doors on my gti make a nice solid click when they shut. THey don't sag. or sit funny. The sunroof has never leaked, I've never had any rainwater in the car anywhere. After putting a really stiff suspension on the car and driving it hard, the A/C still works great after 6 years. I've had to replace, I think one bulb in the entire car, with 67K on it I'm still only at half wear on the original front brakes, the rears show no sign of wear, the abs works fine (whereas my wrx's broke) The seats show no sign of wear after getting in and out and leaning hard on them for 6 years.
    I could go on. I can complain about things that went wrong, and I can rave about things that work well. It's still a fine car.

    And it has one thing that no japanese car has that I've ever driven: It's german, and it's fun to drive.

    I'll gladly take a broken GTI that can be fixed over a perfect toyota or honda. I can't explain it, and Iknow people who understand what I mean, and I know people who don't understand what I mean, but there's something different about the way the germans make their cars, that is far more enjoyable to have than 'it's problem free.'

    I also have a 1984 porsche 911. Same thing. The car is just amazingly fun to drive. I will admit I've never driven an nsx or anything like that, but nothing has ever come close to being as much fun as my 911.
  • Let me first say, VW/Audi should improve their reliability, and they have been and are doing it. However, theses days, simply improving reliability gets you nowhere, because hardly anyone compares the reliability of a '06 car to that of a '03 car. Most buyers look at the stats of two different manufacturers in the same year. So, the progress VW/Audi have made over the past 5 years or so is drowned out by the continuing improvements of the top reliability performers. Do I car? No. Do many people care? Yes.

    For some people, going to the dealer to have something fixed (perhaps during regular maintenance) 2 times a year versus 1.5 times a year is a huge deal. To others, it is the same deal for both cars - especially if they are compensated otherwise (nice interior that looks the same after 15 years, good handling, great low-end torque, driving fun, ...etc.).

    If you think that 2 is much worse than 1.5 - you are simply not VW/Audi material at this point. If you think they are about the same, and are open to explore other features of cars rather than that particular, singular measurement, you qualify as a potential VW/Audi buyer.

    Another secret of VWs is that they usually age gracefully. That is, if you tend to keep your car, and take care of it (for example, use the synthetic oil that is called for in most VW engines), they last a long time with little cost. I don't like to cite idiosyncratic stories, but my 93' Golf is typical to the several Golfs my friends and relatives own. It has had its teething problems. But after 60k miles (well before its warranty ended), it has given me almost no problems. I am at 150.000 miles now, and it still drives like 13 years ago. Still get 35 mpg highway, 28-30 in mixed driving (unless I am having fun). Over the past 5 years, it has cost me less money to maintain per year than its insurance costs.

    Then I know several 10s of Hondas and Toyotas that friends and family own or have owned. Fine (except for some that needed 1 to 2 new transmissions or a few that needed a new engine) until 80K to 120K miles, and then everyone gets rid of them. Why? Because all of them have had numerous costly problems from then on in very short time.

    Note that my Passat is approaching 80k miles and has, since 40k miles, only had an oil leak, which was fixed under warranty.

  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla VirginiaPosts: 707
    Does anyone know if the GTI is know for having a radiator problem?

    I just had to take mine in for a coolant leak, only to have the dealer mechanic state that my radiator fan had gouged a hole in the radiator.

    That sounds a bit fishy to me, but the car is under warrantee. So while they say they need to replace the radiator and fan, it's still not costing me a dime.
  • THat's not common, I imagine you'd have heard about it. whoever put it together probably missed a screw in the fan mount or something. They're little plastic fans, I question the 'gouging a hole' but maybe a lot of wear over time, still means the fan was mounted badly.
  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla VirginiaPosts: 707
    Thanks for the information.


    Just glad to be out of my loaner car. The Chevy Trailblazer was a cow compared to my GTI.
  • I have a Brazilian 2001 1.8T with 102,000 miles on it. I put the 100K OEM VW extended warranty on it and made almost no use of the policy at all. The car has always had proper maintanence. It's been solid.

    Here's my repair history:
    At the free 20k mile service, they replaced an oxygen sensor and an oil line to the turbo. I wasn't aware that there was a problem.

    Replaced a broken spray shield broken on a refrozen snowplow bank at the end of my driveway. $25.00

    One of the windows fell into the door. VW replaced both window regulators and the coil packs as part of their recall campaign. Annoying but the window problem was a known design defect before I even bought the car.

    The rear brakes went at about 52,000 miles. New rotors & pads. First time I've ever had rear brakes go before front brakes.

    At 55,000 miles, the idiot light went on. Replaced a diverter valve. Reprogrammed the engine control unit to correct a fault code for misfiring.

    The check engine light went on again at about 56,000 miles after the dealer had reprogrammed the ECU and replaced the diverter valve. I bought a Vag-Com diag cable and the CD with the shop manual. I tossed them on the floor of the back seat where they've lived ever since. The light went out and the car has run flawlessly ever since. I'm pretty sure my problem was that I hadn't screwed in the gas cap all the way.

    I think I've replaced the whole set of headlights and daytime running lights. Wiper blades a few times. Front windshield a couple of times. I wore through the driver's floor mat and bought a new set. One replacement set of summer tires and I'm about to buy my second set of winter snow tires.

    The car has been extremely reliable. It's never stranded me. I'm on original everything except for rear brakes. I have a timing belt to replace in another month or so at 105K but nothing else is showing trouble signs.
  • Anyone having problems with going through alot of oil but doesnt seem to be burning it ? garage told me oil was getting into the spark plugs which is a bad thing apparently ... i drive a 2000 GTI GLS and seem to need oil roughly every 3000 miles !!! any info appreciated as the garage are advising that I change the car as if there is a bigger issue at hand !!!
  • I recently turned sixteen years old and on my birthday my parents bought me a used 2003 VW 1.8t GTI. The car is loaded with leather 17 inch wheels everything. My entire family has German cars including Porsche Audi and VW's. I have had it about a month and absolutely love it, it is fuel economical, fun to drive and makes all the other kids jealous. I was wondering if anyone has any information about winter tires and or how the GTI is to drive in the winter. I live in michigan and the winters are harsh so i would like to know what i am getting myself into .
  • Approximate pricing has just been released for the upcoming, February 2006 introduction of the MkV GTI in the US. At around $22,350, the 3-door GTI is about $1,500 less expensive than the Jetta GLI. At first glance, the feature list reads similar to the GLI (xenon, trip computer, ESP).

    The two available option packages are (i) sunroof & satellite, and (ii) heated leather sport seats & dual climate.
  • I drove through the VW HQ parking lot and they have about 4 or so GTI's there. They look really sweet. A little smaller than I thought. I am anxiously awaiting a test drive. A gentleman I know (that works for VW) is getting one later this month and has promised me a drive.
  • Can anyone show me step by step directions to install an ignition coil, for my 2001 GTI.
  • I was searching for a 2005 v6 to my surprise dealers state only 1.8 are left what did they ship them back to the factory??? We settled for a loaded 1.8 but come on whats up with vw...due to the very new and not test 2006?
  • Audi/VW is clearly trying to save as much money as possible with regard to their low-sales models by certifying as few drivetrain options and combinations as possible.

    The new (MkV) GTI will be available in February in the US. It blows away the old 1.8 in all categories, and with handling also the VR6. It's worth waiting for. Come on, it's almost Christmas, and February is just around the corner!

    If you can't wait, give the A3 a try.
  • I just leased my 2005 GTI 1.8T from Circle Imports in Long Beach, CA. Mine was one of 2 GTIs on the lot, and all are now gone. Try Pasadena Volkswagen which has the largest inventory left (25 cars in October) in the greater LA area. My Indigo Blue GTI was fully loaded: Tiptronic auto, luxury and leather packages, 17 inch alloy wheels, ESP, and 6-CD changer. The car with options had an MSRP of $24,419, and my car was discounted down $3,000 off the MSRP and included the factory's lease special offer that expired Oct 31, 2005. I leased it for $271/month (before tax) with a $2,000 drive-off payment, 36 months lease term, and 15K miles annually. Since I had already leased for my wife a 2005 New Beetle Convertible, I received another $500 off the GTI from the factory's owner loyalty special that expires November 30, 2005 (see I hope this helps.


  • mpg7mpg7 Posts: 17
  • jwb18tjwb18t Posts: 45
    Same way I feel. The 5 door GTI is the car I have been waiting long. Will be trading in the Passat Variant for a 5 door.
  • conallconall West TexasPosts: 91
    This may be the version that sells over there as a family friendly GTI. The German version sits a little higher = sacrifice in handling.
  • jwb18tjwb18t Posts: 45
    Excellent call out! Will check it carefully in the spring. Most likely will wait till mid summer so have plenty of time to get all the details, Thx.
  • Beware!
    This may be the version that sells over there as a family friendly GTI. The German version sits a little higher = sacrifice in handling

    What are you talking about? There is no such version in Europe, and there is no difference in ride height or anything else between the 3-door and 5-door GTIs.

    There is, however, a difference in ride height between the US height and the rest of the world - thanks to the prevalence of SUVs on US roads, and according safety requirements.

    From what is known at this point, this does not affect the stiffness of the ride, and only has a minor impact on body roll. For those who want a lower and/or sportier ride in the US, there are always after market/ European OEM springs, and after market shocks and sway bars.
  • conallconall West TexasPosts: 91
    I'm talking about the what's called the "Golf Plus". I believe it was available with the 200hp 2.0 engine. I saw it in the factory museum/car pick-up point last summer.
  • Oh, I am familiar with the Golf Plus. The fact that you related it to the GTI threw me off. I think it is only available with the non-turbo 2.0l (150hp) engine, in Europe.

    At any rate, there are no plans at this time to introduce the Golf Plus into the US. The Golf and GTI will be the regular versions, albeit their ride height is a bit higher than in Europe. Reason? Safety tests are standardized to typical ride heights - which in the US are SUVs. Thus, to shine in the safety tests (and also to truly provide the proper safety), several US spec VWs ride a bit higher than their European brethren.

    Other cars VW has mentioned for the US future are the Jetta Sportswagon, and a small SUV based on the Golf/Jetta platform.
  • carlisimocarlisimo Posts: 1,280
    I'm very happy too =].

    Anyway my understanding on the ride height is that the American GTI will have European base-Golf ride height to get a 5 star safety rating instead of 4. Thank gods for the aftermarket.

    Other forums are worried about whether or not we'll get the fully bolstered seats... any word?
  • I not taking a chance on a new model as of yet, I to got the owners loyalty we bought a red fully loaded 1.8 tip tronic for my wife and she is so happy. as for the mk v out doing the mk 4 1.8 I'll wait to see..
  • the tiptronic is gone from the GTI lineup. DSG is lightyears beyond it.
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