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Grand High Poobah
The Fraternal Order of Procrastinators
They aren't cheap.
There were V70's built w/ the seat from the factory but they were never very numerous.
Safety is no contest, Volvo.
Price prob favors passat
Quality of materials,Volvo
Dealer treatment Volvo
Versatility Volvo
If you have the time you could order you XC70 thru the overseas delivery program, right now they will direct ship you the car so you don't even have to go over to europe to pick it up.
Drawbacks, time. It takes @ 2-3mos to get your car built and 1-3 months to get it shipped back to the US.
Volvo will offer a direct ship option if you buy now.
Or you can recieve 2 free roundtrip tickets to europe.
Check w/ your local dealer. Not all dealers embrace the program.
If you can't get more info from them feel free to email me
There will be an XC50, although no date for its release has been given.
The current S/V 40 will be back for the 2004 model yr
I have a 2002 cross country with all packages and options there is, such as TV/Navigation and so on...
I´m very happy with the car, but beeing 6 foot 5 i find it not beeing roomy enough. Before the Volvo XC i drove A Lincoln Navigator and was very pleased with that. But girlfriend did not like it. But now i talked her in to a Sub/Yuk.
Do you guys know of any serous dealer in the US that holds a large stock of used (01, 02) Sub/Yuk and that are excperienced with exporting to europe and are reasoable with prices ?
Thanks in forhand and i´m glad to read that those of you that went to sweden to buy your car, liked our country.
Best regards
Peter Stockholm
Revka
Hatchbacks & Wagons Host
We have had the car for three weeks and have taken it on two 250 mile trips. We love it and could not be happier. We had a SAAB, but rented a SUV while the SAAB was in the shop for repairs from someone backing into it. My wife and I don't like SUVs, but we did like the space (though the saab does well there, too). Anyway we went and looked at Volvo and was very happy with the prices and the service. I was fine with a V70, but did not really dig the 168hp engine. My wife seemed happy as well. Once we found the deal on the XC, though, we knew we were sold. The 3rd row seat and the integrated booster seats are a God send to people with small children.
The 197hp turbo engine is perfect for a station wagon, though it could be a tad stronger. The interior is very classy, though we would have liked a in-dash CD changer. The height is perfect and tall people will very much appreciate this feature. All in all this is a great concept for a car and I find myself loving to drive to this car.
We look forward to joining the XC community. BTW, we worked with Martens in DC and would highly recommend them.
Revka
Hatchbacks & Wagons Host
I've noticed on many occasions that after I've locked the car and gone shopping for a while, when I return and unlock the car, the car "readjusts" the mirror when I open the driver's door, as if it gets confused about what position my side view mirror was left in when I locked it just a few minutes ago with my FOB.
Has anyone else noticed this behavior? I think Volvo has a slight SW problem here. I can usually reproduce this problem quite readily, except of course when I tried to demonstrate it to my Volvo retailer.
Also, I read a review recently on the S60, and the author stated, "Why do I seem to have to readjust the side view mirror so often?" I think he was experiencing the same problem I'm seeing.
If yu change the mirror position you have to reprogram the fob as well. It will remember the old position only.
Is it a 2002?
In the 2002 the fob will activate the seat and mirror memory function.
If you don't the fob shouldn't have anything to do w/ the mirror.
ANDRE.
As far as bug guards are concerned, I had my dealer install a protective urethane film on the headlamps, foglights and front hood of my '01 XC. It prevents paint chipping, bug splatter and more importantly stone impact. I've had it on for almost two years and shows no signs of yellowing.
http://www.xpel.com/products.html
Also, check out http://www.v70xc.com/ for a great site exclusively dedicated to the XC. :~)
Consumer Reports today revealed that the Volvo S60, Volvo S70 and Volvo V70 XC Cross Country are all on the recommended list. All of these vehicles are on the same platform as the XC90.
From CR "...Volvo unit continue to post solid gains in reliability, while the quality of recently redesigned models such as the 2002 Toyota Camry and Nissan Altima has fallen, an influential buying guide said Thursday."
No Mercedes-Benz vehicle scored high enough to be recommended.
The Consumer Reports study confirms the results of JD Powers which reported that Volvo is the highest ranked European car in quality and in the top 5 of all manufacturers.
I believe both of these upgrades are identical to the specs found in the lower end XC90 model.
I have read that the engine in the X90 is quite adequate to move this beast around so I assume that in the xc70, it will really fly.
There may be some monor interior mods as well.
the XC group, so sorry about the repost)
I was looking at an '03 XC70 today and was
reasonably impressed.
But, I did forget to look at one item and can't
find an answer in the brochure or online, What
is the Cup Holder setup in the rear-seat area?
thanx
This varies slighty from the Overseas tourist program listed on the Volvo website. Normally you need to order your car and travel to Sweden as previously mentioned. However, they now have a certain number of vehicles built to US specs and available for purchase. These cars come packaged as the one mentioned above (Prem and Tour. pkg) Your colors are limited and time is of the essence. The discount will be applied for a limited time ( maybe year's end) There is no advertisement of this on the website and some dealers I spoke with just plain didn't know about it! I heard about the program from a dealer far from me and eventually worked it out with someone much closer. Not all dealers will be willing to participate, probably due to a minimal fee they receive. Either way I encourage anyone looking to buy a new or, late model used volvo, to check this out quickly.
Hope it helps someone.
The only time A-Plan is comparable is if there is an incentive on top of the A-Plan price.
Currently there is no Overseas Delivery available for the XC90.
After the first of January Volvo will start taking orders for May delivery of a 2004 XC90.
There will be no price break on the car, indeed we may see an increase.
Volvo does list Overseas pricing for the 03, its the same as the US price, except that you get free airfare to Europe.
As for the 03 vs 04 debate, I don't have any special feeling either way.
People who place deposits/orders now will probably get an 04, and probably pay more for it.
I haven't heard of any significant upgrades or equipment differences to sway me to the 04 over the 03.
The V8 if its available, won't be available right away and is supposed to be part of a super-luxury version anyway.
Bottom line, Overseas Delivery is fun if you want to go to Europe, and can deal with the time issues.
Volvo sure is not saying much about it.. They slipped it in without so much as a mention of this other than some small print in there spec sheets. I guess they don't want to steel the XC90's thunder considering it's exactly the same drive train as the lower end XC90.
Not much info on a Haldex experience yet.
Ifyou have the time check into the overseas deal I have previously posted. You may not even have to travel to get such a great deal.
I've just come back from my Volvo dealer who gave me the scoop on the Overseas program. It must be done by Dec 31 and Volvo is throwing in FREE SAS air tickets for two to Copenhagen round trip to be taken by 4/15/2003. You can pay addtional $295 and have three nights in London hotel for two as well :-)
My dealer made no mention of the FREE Premium Package :-( However, I will approach him tomorrow about this.
Where did you get this deal from? Can you give me the dealer tel number/name so that my sales person can get confirmation etc ?
My only problem at this time is that I want Brown interior seats and there aren't any on the list -- sales person will start the hunt for Brown tomorrow.
I'm impressed with the XC70/2003 and will be upgrading from a 86' 745 GLE Turbo Diesel wagon that has some 235,000 miles on it. The plastics on this car are beginning to shatter and close to impossible to repair without spending lots -- plus the diesel exhaust is blowing black at times as iI climb hills and causes the cyclists around my neigbourhood to choke ;-)
Thanks and regards... Barry Sharp
My sales person quoted
Base: $30,800
Premium: $2,595
Touring: $795
Met Paint: $350
Total: $34,540
If I subtract out the Premium package of $2,595 I get to your $31,945.
Soooo, if Premium is FREE then I believe that makes the XC70/2003 a good deal -- plus especially when the free air tickets and 3-days in London are considered as well.
Regards... Barry Sharp
If you're talking London, then you must be out west. The deal they're offering on travel is GREAT! I was in Stockholm last year and had a blast.
Make sure to push your salesperson on the free premium pkg. It is for real. Tell him to call the international volvo people or the dealerships I mentioned above. It's a great deal. It sounds like you could use the upgrade and boy, have things changed since 1986.
Good luck.
Also nice timing on the messages above!
Congrats again! I'll post when our car is delivered. I'm sure we will all be quite pleased once they arrive.
First, jmhillrph1 CONGRATS on the baby (girl or boy?).
About the FREE air tickets -- I enquired extensively about this bonus offer and it appears that the tickets are completly transferable. This means that if you personally can't make use of them you can assign them to anyone of your choosing. This might make for a fine gift to a family member, friend or close associate etc.
As I have family in London and nearby Cambridge the addition of a stay in London is an additional bonus. The airfare deal does not imply a ride to Gothenburg -- in fact that's not part of the offer as in the official OSD program.
My sales person said it will take 6 weeks for XC70/2003 to arrive after Volvo receives full payment. The only downside to this is one has to pay in full upfront and then wait the 6 weeks. IMO this is well worth it especially so if I can convince my sales person to give me the FREE Premium package. I'm going to press him very very hard today on this.
Questions: Why has Volvo offered this program? Is it because they have over produced XC70/2003 cars? Is it because the full MSRP for XC70/2003 encrouches on the low end of the XC90? Is it because cars in general just aren't selling today? Are there any problems with the new XC70/2003 early models maybe? Is it because Volvo needs "floor space" for the popular XC90 which appears to be selling very well in my area (Pacific Northwest -- Seattle area)?
No matter, I'm convinced the XC70/2003 is the car for my wife and me to replace our aging 86' 745 wagon. My wife has the S80 T6 2000 model which replaced her S90. The S90 (last of the rear wheel drives) was at the end of its development cycle and was an excellent vehicle. My wife misses the very tight turning circle of the S90 as the S80 needs some 3 to 4 more feet (an artifact of FWD) and makes the U-turn into the garage a hit-and-miss situation at times (no hits yet!!!).
I'm interested in any advice on worthy accessories for the XC70/2003. My wish list so far is
1. Rear skid plate (useful and looks cool as well)
2. Square hitch
3. Splash guards (are these really necessary I wonder?). I've read these are hard to find!
4. Hand free phone components -- I suspect this option is expensive based on the various pics I've seen -- special headrest with speaker and mic, plus central dash mods!
5. I'd like to get a wide-angle driver-side rear view mirror but haven't located one yet. I'll try Borton in MN as I get various S80 service parts from them at a good price.
6. Rain sensor wiper blades -- I thought these were standard but see that they're not :-( I rented a MB in England earlier this year and it had these type wipers and I found them extremely useful and made driving safer as I travelled thru frequent drizzle off and on while steaming north on the mortor ways.
7. Rear divider as I have two Wire Hair Fox Terriers that love to sit up front. These dogs are quite narrow (for crawling into Fox holes I suppose). I've tested these dividers in Volvo wagons in the past and my dogs squeeze past the divider thru the gap between divider and side rear window. Just how narrow is this gap on the XC70/2003 setup I wonder?
8. I'm curious about the worth/addition of the DTSC feature on top of the 4-wheel drive system. Is this option worth the (approx)$1200 ? I know many people that speak very highly about DTSC on their S80s, but this is a front wheel drive vehicle vs. 4WD on XC70/2003.
9. The 10-disc CD system -- does the CD holder cabinet locate in the rear cubby holes somewhere -- maybe one of the rear side compartments maybe?
10. Does front of car need any further protection from flying stones/gravel/bugs etc. The car does seem to be very well protected already! The low fog lights would appear to need some protection.
11. Oh, and where does the DVD portion of the Nav system reside?
12. Does XC70/2003 have memory rear view side mirrors -- can't seem to find this feature mentioned in the brochure but have read postings indicating the feature is present.
Well as you can see and imagine, I'm quite excited about this Volvo XC70/2003 car and any advice or purcahse insights you care to post will be most welcomed.
Thanks and regards... Barry Sharp
Revka
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You are the man -- I pressed my sales person this morning and he immediately called his Volvo contact and found that the FREE Premium package is for REAL. Oh my god -- how can I ignore this I thought.
A short while later my sales person called me back with BAD news. Volvo Overseas had just informed him that this OSD by Dec 31st without having to travel to factory had been abandoned/dropped as of last week sometime. The only way to now proceed was to travel to Gothenburg factory and point to the XC70/2003 of choice in the factory lot and then return or take car for a spin around Europe if one had the time etc and then have car shipped home. The FREE Premium package was still available with this offer. However, what's not clear to me or my sales person at this time is whether or not the FREE Premium package is restricted to the "list" of XC70/2003s that Volvo had with their program that was so quickly/quietly abandoned last week. If I'm to travel to Gothenburg I'd like very much to get my Brown leather interior but if I have to fork out for the Premium package in order to get "Brown" I may just have to opt for Taupe interior. Either way this deal is still very attractive.
Will post back as I learn more, and thanks for the heads up on this very attractive purchase option.
My sales person is working very hard on this for me and has several other customers who were in the process of making good on the Volvo program that has been dropped. Volvo apparently hasn't done a good job in informing it's country-wide Sales/Dealerships of their recent decision to abandon the OSD-type program that had been advertised to all to be good thru Dec 31st. In fact there are going to be several disappointed customers who were in the process of buying at my local Volvo dealership per what my Sales person has told me.
Regards... Barry Sharp
My local Volvo dealership did wonders on the telephone with their West Coast Overseas delivery person and have secured me a promise of obtaining the Premium Package for me for free if I purchase my XC70/2003 and pick it up in Goteborg by Mar 30th 2003. This was a special deal they developed for me as I had missed out on the program they had 'quietly' cancelled last week plus me being a "loyal" Volvo customer etc.
This will allow me to order my Brown interior and not be restricted to the special list of cars associated with the program that Volvo cancelled last week.
This is a huge savings of around $6,632 compared to list price of Base+Premium+Touring+Met Paint.
Now I have to decide where my wife and I are going to travel from Goteborg and what drop off location to pick on. I just hope my aging 86' 745 GLE wagon will pull me through while waiting for this XC70 to arrive home.
Sooo, it's $2000 deposit (non refundable) up front to order thru OSD and remaining balance due no later than 30 days prior to pickup in Goteborg. Local sales tax is due when picking up car when it finally arrives at my local Volvo dealership. I'll have 30 days to obtain/install local license plates while driving around locally with European plates :-)
Big question -- should I pocket the $6,632 savings or splurge out for those extra accessories that always beckon to a new car buyer. Given that those splash guards for the XC70 are so hard to get I believe they will make a splendid 'extras' choice as the factory will equipped the car the way you specify down to the last detail.
If others who have OSD experience are willing to post back any advice I would welcome them.
BTW I did test drive an XC70/2003 model today and it drove very well and has surprisingly good pickup from 20mph while accelerating up to freeway speed. The ride was comfortable and I checked out the rain sensor wipers here in the Northwest and the memory feature of the rear view side mirrors. Both worked as advertised per the owner's manual. I especially like the nylon divider that not only installs behind the rear seats but also behind the front seats when the rear seats are folded down -- a very convenient and well thought out feature/addition IMO (I have two dogs that like to travel in the car). I found that the XC70 tires transmit little noise into the cabin and the XC70 seats do well in supporting my legs just behind the knees. On the V70 models I found this wasn't the case and lacked this much need support for me when driving long trips. I liked the look of the combination of Ash Gold and the Umber plastic bumper protection surrounding all/most of the lower levels of the body work. I left the dealership with a very positive XC70/2003 experience.
Thanks in advance and regards... Barry Sharp
Since you mentioned splash guards, I thought I'd reference this discussion which I was reading earlier from another board http://xc70.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3dec32810650ffff;act=ST;f=1;t=572
Also, if you've not read it here's one buyers recount of his OSD experience http://www.virtualtourist.com/m/tt/29cfb/
I was interested to read that you'd been told that the air tickets may be transfereable-- I was told otherwise-- so I guess I'll need to research that a little further. Will look forward to hearing how everything works out for you.
I don't have many answers to your post, but I have spoken to a few people who said that the AWD worked fine w/o the DTSC.
Well, here's to everyone enjoying their new XC's once they arrive. Congrats again and happy/safe driving.
This IMO is an extraordinary opportunity for any Volvo enthusiast.
Regards... Barry
P.S. jmhillrph1 -- my first was a boy and he got undivided attention for 5 years and then his sister and a year later another sister joined him. At 5 years old my son had absolutely no jealous traits with the new arrivals. All three have long memories travelling on long trips in our 86' 745 wagon -- the best one was the trip across Death Valley ;-) when I had to turn off the A/C unit to avoid overheating. It was years later when the kids fully realised why I did this as at the time they were really mad with me.
Thanks, Art
Volvo Canada recommends changing/flushing the ATF every 96,000km/60,000 miles under normal driving conditions. Older transmissions need changing much sooner, but many of the newer FWD trannys are a lot gentler on fluids. My recommendation is if you don't feel comfortable with this arrangement you could always change the fluid sooner. Transmission fluid should last forever, but driving conditions and time have shown that things don’t always turn out in real life like they do on paper. The newer transmissions with lock up in the lower gears as well as some transmissions even go into neutral at a stop should make the fluid last longer, keep your eye on the fluid condition and change it when needed. (your mileage may vary)
I have signed on for a XC70 and will take delivery of it in Gotenborg around end of Feb. I was not planning on driving the car anywhere but having it shipped immediately. My questions are --
(a) has anyone tried this before? Will the US customs be leary of such low milage cars?
(b) how long does it take for the car to arrive in the US? My local dealer, in Raleigh, tells me that it will take 25 days but the official webpage talks about 50 to 60 days.
Would appreciate any pointers that you may provide.
thanks
After I gave the car back and went home, it still sat in Sweden waiting for the next boat to come back from the states. It sat for about a week or so in Sweden even after I left so it took a little longer. From the time I got home to the time I got the car it was about 4-5 weeks because the shipping company had some delays at the port where the car came in (baltimore).
Hope this helps.
AS
So my metallic silver XC with charcoal leather interior and mesh alluminium trim inlays with enough room for almost half a rugby team arrives in time for travelling up to the beach and farm this summer. I expect my kids are going to love the booster seats and extra ground clearance which combine to give an elevated view shaft to roadside activity. No way did I ever contemplate an urban tractor (SUV).
Something I am considering having fitted prior to uplift, is an integrated spoiler. It is similar to that which comes with the XC90 but not normally available with the XC70, at least not in my lattitude on the globe. I am interested in comment you can offer re the spoiler. I like it primarily for aesthetic reasons and note it is on the XC90. Does anybody have anything to add? Drag, resale value, look, pitch in I would love to hear your opinion.
All the best - Mills