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Did they include CPO status or an extended warranty? For what price?
Did they offer you a good finance rate?
How much mileage did you have at lease end?
Are you happy with your purchase and has the car held up?
How much have you spent to maintain and repair your VW after lease purchase?
What kind of climate do you live in (I am in the hot/arid climate, car has held up well for 2.75 years +/-, with partial garaging.)
In my case, I have a 2003 GLS Tip/Leather that will have about 28,000 miles at lease end that has not given me any problems. I like the car, and have run the numbers, and it may save me between $2,500 and $5,000 to purchase and use for another 3 years assuming I will spend about $1,500 in maintenance (tires, oil, allowance for two major services) and assuming $1,500 in repairs, depeding on the final purchase price, financing available, and ability to get CPO.
If VW does not offer CPO status for about $1k or less, deal become shakier.
Right now, I have not seen any car out there that is compelling enough that it is a must buy/lease over my Passat (looked at the TL, G35, Legacy GT, decided not to look European again.) although these were all nice cars.
Final decision will be based on what market has to offer in Nov/Dec 2005, but figure I will call VW shortly (before CPO 2.9% financing expires) to discuss options and negotiate, if possible.
When I had a SAAB as my last lease through Chase, they were desperate to get rid of it (very poor resale on these). They dropped the residual almost $4k with little discussion.
Great group!
Have some lease quotes that I'd like to run by you.
I put quite a few miles on cars, so I was intrigued by these phone quotes from my local dealer in Central NJ:
2006 Passat 2.0T
Auto
Package 2
All quotes would have 1st month's payment, lease inception, tags, title etc. (totals about $1000) up front. No Cap cost. Monthly sales tax included.
12K - $350
15K - ~$370
18K - ~$385
Sales guy said VW is pretty motivated to get these rolling out the door.
Seems pretty aggressive.
Am I missing something or should I pounce on this??
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(Though I haven't confirmed w/ dealer - just probing for now)
If they include tax, and given that the due at signing is around $1000...
regards,
kyfdx
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What is included in the up front amount besides 1st month's payment, tags, title?
Acquisition fee or dealer fee?
Are these payments for 36 or 48 months?
And, while I haven't hammered out details yet (just ballparking right now), I'm assuming it includes:
1st month payment
Lease Deposit (not sure if refundable, but usually is)
Tags/title etc.
It does NOT include any Capital Cost reduction for the lease
Package 1 is sunroof and satellite radio. Not worth $1600 or whatever they want for it.
You can't even get xenons on the 2.0T, apparently. You have to move up to the 3.6.
Now if 3.6 delivers 22/30 MPG, which is what the 2.0T is rated at...
And... as you say... just a general rule of thumb...
On a longer lease, it might be close to $20/month..
regards,
kyfdx
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2006 Passat 2.0T Tip w/ Package 2 (MSRP of $28,415) for $26,651.
The best quote came on the first phone call, so there may be slightly more wiggle room.
for a lease, details:
$28,415 sticker
$26,651 sales price
$876 down (inceptions costs)
$380/month (includes 6% tax)
18K for 36 months
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2006 Passat 2.0T, Black on Black, Tiptronic, Package #1 with Sirius, cold weather package, and the super-secret multi-function steering wheel "free production error" (thank you forum!
MSRP $27,440. Invoice is $25,357. Add $280 in dealer ad & prep fees and I gave them $363 over invoice for arranging exactly what I wanted so the "Off the lot" selling price was an even $26,000 (I like this dealership and didn't fight too hard (other than being well informed), so I think readers could get $25,500 or better if you want to fight/shop for it or are flexible - which I wasn't on either count.)
Lease is 36 mos, 36,000 miles.
Only first payment and title/license fees at inception - $454.
No Down Payment / Cap Cost reduction.
Security deposit of $300 was waived (have 2 leases with VW Credit)
Acq fee of $595 was rolled into the lease.
$334.33 total monthly payment (incl 5.1% tax)
I'll miss my 2002 Passat 1.8T GLS, especially with the manual transmission, when that lease ends next week.. but I'm looking forward to this new 2006. Hope this info helps other shoppers. Good luck!
Pack
PS- ASK FOR them to find one with that multifunction steering wheel with the early production Package #1s!!! Its free and if they are like mine, the VW guys never heard of it. :shades:
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2002 1.8T Passat GLS (retiring 9/6/05)
2004 1.8T Passat Wagon GLS
and now a new 2006 2.0T Passat
Thanks!
The lowest I got with them was pretty aggressive.
Package 2 (MSRP $28,415)
36 month lease
18K miles/year
$380/month (that includes tax)
$500 down
The other dealer was World VW in Neptune
Only got a phone quote and right off the bat, they would sell that same car (package 2, MSRP of $28,415) at $26,651.
36 month, 18k lease was $380/mo (includes tax) w/ $876 down.
While I didn't complete the deal at either place (still on the fence) David Michael had some appreciable inventory. I didn't get the impression World had a ton of cars sitting on the lot.
Hope this helps!
Steve
2006 Passat package 2 .No cap cost reduction, acquisition fee rolled into lease. $484 down. Monthly payment $321 tax included.
The dealer is Gunther Volkswagen in Coconut Creek Florida (Broward County)
They had about 15-20 Passats. Of course nobody can say if this deal will be extended past Sept. 6.
After I pick up the car I will post all the exact numbers
Way to go, I'll have to settle for the $750 A:D.
Btw, have you received your form yet? Definitely something to ask on Wednesday's live feed.
$488.49 down included first mo. payment, license fee and Florida fees and taxes. Cap. cost was--- $26922.22
Residual value-- $ !7049.00
Base monthly payment--$302.83
Monthly sales tax --$18.17
Total mo. payment---$321.00
Am looking at a 2005 1.8T Automatic Passat Front wheel drive with leatherette+cold weather package (no wood trim). Two dealers each had posted $27-28,000. I told them I was just looking, but would be interested if they could come around $20-22,000. Both seemed inclined to do so ("I don't think I can do 20, but maby $22-23" & "$22 isn't impossible"), though I didn't talk further details.
Would I be reasonable to asking for $20,000? Or even less? I would probably finance the car myself.
Also, they each claimed these were there last 2 2005's. Is that believable? Will they vanish in a month?
Thanks...
You may be able to get a 2006 for slightly more $$.
The engine rocked though (i drove the base model) and the body is much sportier.
Ning
Anyone care to share actual prices paid for 2.0T with pkg #1 or #2 in the MA area?
Just an FYI for all those looking for a Passat. Have the following offer on the table in NJ. 2006 2.0T with AT and package 2. MSRP is $28,415.00.
Lease Terms
30 months
37,500 miles (15K per year)
MF 0.0008 (1.92%)
Residual 61%
$360/month 1194 OOP
I was looking at the A4 and decided to test drive the new Passat. I actually like the ride and general feel of the Passat more.
Hope this helps.
-Nick
Price: $26,621
With taxes, title, fees, etc.: $28,423
36 months
15K/year
MF: .0008
Residual (57%) seems low
$393/month with only first payment due at signing
I have the exact same lease offered to me with payment of $357
The only difference is $800 down up front
36 month x 15000/year
msrp is $28,415
Sale is $26,600
Residual is also 57%
I don't know why you have higher payments?
Check the numbers again and make sure they didn't include something you don't know of.
Good luck