Itching to buy an 04 CR-V soon. Want a good down payment and debating weather to sell or trade my 98 Civic LX. All advice is very much appreciated. Details: 1998 Honda Civic LX Model, 4 door, Silver 150,000 (yikes) miles CD Stereo Standard LX features such as power windows, locks, AC, Tilt, Cruise. Never in accident New timming belt No dents, some small scratches. Couple small burn holes in seats. Would need a good detail for private sale Otherwise it still looks nice, and drives great. Maryland/DC area. Got a trade in offer of $2,400 from dealer, and $2,100 from CarMax. Really want 4,000 Anne
I put the year in the topic title...but in case it didn't show up, it's a 2000 Dodge Dakota Sport club cab SB 4x4. Not too sure what you mean by trim level...
$2400 trade is a good offer, they must have really wanted your business. I am assuming it is a manual tranny since you did not specify. Automatic and it is a fair offer.
Obviously a smokers car given the burns, scratches, tires?, $3500-$3900 retail is about all of it given the miles and slightly less than average condition. So the low $2K is about right for a trade.
You will/might have a hard time moving it yourself due to the miles on it as well. Even people who like Honda cars will see 150K on a Civic as an issue for a private sale. You can always try and ad for a week or two, clean it up really good yourself, try asking in the mid $3Ks and see what happens.
FYI all those extras you have added are probably going to hurt your trade in prospects unless you live in a really red-neck-ville area. Those extras can kill your trade in valuation if you live in a State that requires emmision testing, even if it will pass. i.e. loud dual exhaust, throttle spacer, etc.
Things like step bars, bull bars, bed covers, help.
........ YOU are the Man .. now if you can show everybody else to how to drop the "link" and "post" you would be my Hero .. this way, I wouldn't have to ~ scroll scroll my boat gently down the stream ~ and save me bunches of time ..... sucking up is a good thing ..
the Outback, is it a Legacy, Impreza .?
The Saturn is kinda tall in the miles dept, I would figure the dealer probably has "around" $9ish in it after all the stuff, you should be able to get this one for "around" $11ish or less, the V6 saves this one .. what's he asking .? hows things in Salt Lake .?
....... Good evening John - the miles are Xtra low low low, we have a club cab, V8, wheels, auto, tow pack, 4x4, color is good for the area, sounds like nice one ...
That xtra $7,000 in stuff .? you better back it into your garage, turn on that cool Rock station, call your g/f and tell her your going to be a little busy taking off all that glitter - a grille, a roll bar, ehh' there worth a few dollars ($200/$300.?) big boomer sound systems, intakes, chopped chipped Cha Cha motors are worth about Zippity Do Dah to a dealer and the vast majority of the buyers ~~ can you spell S T O C K .. ?
It does sound like you have taken great care of it though .. trade side, in and around the $12's .. this would be a Great vehicle for Retail Rd, Super big 5 liner Ad, Super detail, "asking" $15,9 and let someone take it home for $14,5/$15,5 ..... leave your ego at the door and don't get your feelings hurt, folks won't appreciate it as much as you do ..
.... >> Got a trade in offer of $2,400 from dealer, and $2,100 from CarMax. Really want 4,000 Anne .. <<
Hi Anne ~ you want $4,000 for it and I want the new 48' Fountain Express Cruiser, and neither will be happening tonight ... sounds like you need to be going down Retail Rd, super detail (not the car wash) finish any service if needed, needs rubber.? drop some on, it needs to look, drive and feel like 50k, not 150k .. $4,900 in the paper with a GREAT ad and wave hasta la vista at the first $3,5/$4,5 ...
Thanks for all your insight on the BMW. I'm still shopping.. You are the best.. You are either incredibly generous, or incredibly bored to help all of us this way. Which ever one it is, I hope it continues.
there's a lot of these in the 15-16K range, that is too much for me. how low can you get a dealer on these cars? here's the specs:
Chevy Impala LS (gotta have the 3.8) Year: 2002 Good Condition Moonroof all of the options that come w. LS, but no extras. decent tires.
Area: Cleveland
I like these cars -- and I read Mathias's article and it seems like you can get a lot of value for the money. Just want to get a general idea of a real sell price from a dealer.
not an Impreza. Nice shape for the miles but I'm thinking that handshaker probably kills it.
Things are good in SL - nice Indian Summer around here. Things would be even better if I could convince el-cheapo to pick up one of these wagons and stop calling me every time that Sentra breaks!
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Just happened to spot this one in the local paper and it got me wondering what its really worth.
'01 Honda Insight with the 5-speed and 52K miles. That's all the info I got on it, but, if i recall correctly, there really were no options to be had on that car, right? Anyway, they are asking $9995. Its in NJ, but i don't know color, sorry.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I have a 1998 Chevy Blazer LT 4x4 with all options except sunroof. It has running boards, leather, CD/tape, climate control, towing package and power everything. It is in great condition inside and out but here's the catch...
The engine went about 10K miles ago and was replaced with a rebuilt. Other recent repairs include new lower ball joints and shocks (normal wear and tear). The body has 82K miles on it.
How do I go about determining the value of the car? The rebuilt engine cost $3,000 to have installed.
TMV trade-in value is $7,500 in "outstanding" condition if it still had the original engine.
How much do you think I could get for the vehicle from a dealer? private party?
I never said I *owned* the Focus only that I was *driving* it.
Our Chevy broke down yet again on Thursday, so yes, the Focus is a rental. Our Chevy decided that the $4000 in repairs we've done thus far wasn't enough and it needed another $600. I swear that truck is a money pit.
Hopefully get both vehicles back this week. The Explorer is in the body shop.
Do you guys really believe I'd trade my beautiful, low mileage, very reliable Explorer for a *gasp* Focus???
Some of us were just worried the sway of the car lot would overcome you... :-) I just hope once they are out of the shop they are both good for many more miles for you!!
You guys crack me up. Nope, no chance of me trading the Explorer, now the truck........nope, not that one either. We would never get our money back out of it, we have nearly $12k into that 94 K3500......all since June. Financially its doing a number on us, but we are in this far, we'll stick with it for a bit longer.
Only thing I go near dealers for is to get parts and that's not very often.
I'm chomping at the bit to get the Explorer back, should be sometime in the next few days.
......... Ouch, your not getting any help from a rebuilt engine and we got 85k, so let me give you the bad news first ... for starters, there is no such thing as "Excellent or Outstanding" unless you are trying to trade a 03 Mercedes CL600 thats been covered in a garage , seats have been hovered in, has maybe 2/3k, the right color and glows in the dark ...
The good news is, you have a 4x4, LT, leather, tow pack (that's not been used) .. "rebuilt engines" are like fat girls, there easy to pick-up but hard to get rid of ... this won't be any winner for a dealer, plus when it goes to the auction the work has to be declared .. you might be seeing the $5,0's on a trade, maybe less depending on the dealer ...
The best way to go is, Retail Rd ~ shine it up, have ALL the service records glued to the dash, you will need a super Ad in the biggest paper in your area and you have to be available to "discuss" the work, most LT's don't see work til' 150k unless they have been abused, so you just need to be there to "Splain" ... $3,000 for a rebuild ..?? Wow, who did the work Reggie Fountain ..l.o.l... but anyway, try $7,900 "asking" and you might see $6,5/$7,500 ---- Oh yeah, don't forget to park the ego at the door . .....
....... Mathias is right, lotsa bang for the buck, 3.8 motor, LS should run til 150k properly serviced .. actually there holding pretty strong monies even in Clevesburg, most dealers will have the $14's in it .. so figure if you are a good negotiator, you should be getting one in that $16/$17ish range, depending on the miles and the condition .... hows the Shooters doing up there .?
Thanks for the response. I find it hard to believe the "most" LT's don't see work until they see 150K. It has been my experience that most American cars start requiring major repairs around 70K miles, this one was definately no exception.
The truck runs great now but I just don't trust it to not break down and either result in an accident or leave my wife and new baby stranded.
It is a crying shame that a 5 year old vehicle should be this unreliable and costly to own. I will never own an American vehicle again. They don't last and their resale value is the pits. I will have to pay $10-15K more to replace this truck with a comparable foreign vehicle of the SAME year! (Toyota 4Runner or Nissan Pathfinder) Pathetic!
After watching the Eagles run back a punt for a touchdown with 1:16 left in the 4th to beat the Giants, I went out and I saw this while driving:
1998 Audi A4 sedan, Quattro 2.8 L V6, 5 spd manual, black leather, moonroof, 52.5 K miles, pearl white,looks very clean (no visible dings), not sure if it has the Bose or cold package.
I'm in the lower Hudson Valley, NY. What would be a fair price? Thanks in advance.
1999 LX470, White/tan, 60K miles, CD changer/Nakamichi, listed for $36K, dealer recently lowered to $29,999. In So Cal.
First the good: clean body, no rust, ding, or parking lot kiss anywhere visible.
Now the bad: leather on side of driver seat peeling/peeled off; driver and passenger leather looked worn; dead battery; no towing package; needs a wash (interior).
Checked CARFAX, 1 owner truck, local, but car was purchased at auction. Tells me even the Lex dealership want no part of this truck.
What do you think ? As an LS owner, I cannot believe how worn the leather is on this '99 despite its low miles for the year (~15K miles/yr). Are there potentially more troubles down the road on this truck ? Drove OK.
....... Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings and drop a little reality into your life, but facts are facts .. there is millions of 150/200k Caddys, Lincolns, Suburbans, Lesabre's and even LT's out there, and sooner or later there is going to be a bad one, these are man made machines, not art works by Picasso -- if you want to stamp your feet and pull your hair, that's your business ...
Read some of the MANY boards on the problems with VW's, MB's, BMW, Audi's, etc, and then perhaps you might take your anger out on someone else besides me ....
A GM car will run, run, run, and run some more and the AC and heat will still work even at 150,000 miles. BUT don't count on all of your switches still being there or your headliner to still be attached to the roof. Gotta buy a Honda or Toyota for that kind of stuff.
That's one thing I love about american SUVs, people get fed up with thier little problems and dump them, then I can come along and pick 'em up cheap.
I looked at so many SUVs before I bought the Explorer. Pricewise it was the most expensive one I looked at, but was the newest and lowest mileage. I looked at some Misuzus (Izusu) Rodeos, most were 94 with ~100k for $7k, looked at a 94 4Runner with a new engine and ~70k on it for $10k My Explorer was a 97 with ~41k for $11k. Seemed like a fair deal to me, I've put $0 into it for repairs. Now don't get me started on our $12k 94 K3500 with 150k on it.....ugh.
And yes, I am staying away from the car lots and am miserable driving that darn rented Focus.
I hardly consider my response to your post a temper tantrum and I most certainly am not angry. Anyone who buys a used late-model American car from the big three with anything over 70K is asking for trouble. As far as "fact are facts" - why don't you look at the reliability ratings in Consumer Reports and get back to me.
I notice that you did not include any Japanese makes in your 'also unreliable' list. Oh, and akangl, I do not consider engine failure a "little problem". You are welcome to "come along and pick up" my Blazer anytime.
A good leather guy can make those seats look like new.
Personally, I would rather it DIDN'T have a tow package. These always scare me...and other people too...we wonder what kind of overweight load it may have had to pull.
The fact a Lexus dealer wholesaled it is a bit funny unless he had too many to begin with.
Engine failure happens, of all the SUVs I looked at this summer, all were high mileage and only *1* of them had an engine replaced. It was a 94 4Runner with 70k on it, struck me as very strange.
I looked at several Explorers and ended up buying a nice low mileage one, fast forward 3 months and 10k miles (it now has 51k on it) and I've put $0 into it. More reliable than several foreign cars I've owned. My 98 Grand Cherokee was the same way, bullet proof, owned it from 40k to 78k and put $0 into it.
Every car maker has its problems, they are man made machines, they break.
I realize that cars break down. All I am saying is that American cars/trucks, on average, do not stand the test of time as well as Japanese cars/trucks. I notice that you bought both the cars mentioned in your post at 40K miles and you sold the Cherokee with 78K on it. My concern is the reliability of my Blazer as it gets closer to and past the 100K mark.
That being said, I will probably keep it until it finally dies because the resale value is so low that it will always pay to fix it rather than replace it. Hopefully you are both right and it will last until 150K without any more problems.
Actually, I didn't sell the grand cherokee and would still have it today if we hadn't fallen on hard times and been unable to make the payments on it. (long story)
That's my take on my Explorer, if I can get to 150k on it I'll be happy. I drive about 35k/year, so that won't take long. I had a 1994 S-10 Blazer that I bought with 78k on it and sold with 113k, was a fairly good truck, but dang it liked fuel pumps. Re-sale does hurt though. We are $12k into a 94 Chevy K3500 150k on it that we bought in June, ain't worth nothin' now, sad thing is we only paid $6700 for it, the rest is repairs. We will keep it until it gasps its last breath.
(i) sorry about your misfortune. that bites. (ii) sorry about the crossed wires between you and terry; i didn't see any attacks either direction... (iii) i'm with the other guys: 70k rebuilt on a gm pushrod is VERY unusual. anonymous is right; they'll run forever with cold air and strong transmissions, but the car will slowly break apart around the drivetrain. also, the ugly is usually factory-installed.
none of this helps you with your truck. smartest thing would be to keep driving it, money-wise. from the $3k repair bill i would assume the rebuilt was done alright... but you KNOW that, a buyer would have to assume it. personally, i wouldn't touch this thing unless i could flat steal it; nobody puts them together like the factory; i wouldn't even buy a car that had it's head(s) off.
As far as your truck plus $10-15k to get a japanese truck of same vintage: ah, no. the strongest ones are the 4runners, they bring stupid money, but I don't see a '98 with 85k get more than $15k retail. Terry will spank me if I'm wrong.
As far as consumer reports: don't forget they count "failures" or "problems". a stuck power window switch, blown transmission, or leaky water pump are all the same to them. i would not be afraid to buy a 4.3 -- it's a 350 w/ 2 cylinders missing, and THAT was the best engine the General ever built. Sorry you got one of the few duds.
Yep, seems like everyone has a horror story with every brnad out there, regardless of country of origin. I personally think we'll look back at this decade as one of the better ones in automotive history. Cars, in general, are made better and last longer than any time I can ever remember in 25 plus years of driving. I like LeSabres, Town Cars, Crown Vics, Impalas for their drivetrain stoutness. The Blazer you speak of is probably one of the best examples that the General ever made (that includes the Tahoe and 'Burban, too).
You got a bad one. akangle has had good luck with her Explorer but saw a bad example of a 4-Runner. It's going to happen.
As Mathias pointed out, the 4.3L engine is a good one, in general. Yours wasn't as it just so happened.
All the ranting here isn't going to change your curcumstance, though.
Terry was just trying to give you some friendly advice. Whatever you do or don't choose to buy next is totally up to you.
That, plainly is my greatest concern ! That a Lex dealership wholesaled it and it got picked up by a Mitsu dealer looking for a quick buck. I think I'll proceed rather cautiously. Read: taking a pass at this one.
Like new, miles in the 8's, 03's, 3.0's are doing in and "around" that $40/$41ish figure .. the 4.4i's are seeing "around" that $46ish range .. they can do a little more and they can do a little less depending on the day and it's that funny time of the year, Fall is falling up north and 4x4's, even expensive ones can drag some $$ -But, they better be clean and glow in the dark ...
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1998 Honda Civic
LX Model, 4 door, Silver
150,000 (yikes) miles
CD Stereo
Standard LX features such as power windows, locks, AC, Tilt, Cruise.
Never in accident
New timming belt
No dents, some small scratches.
Couple small burn holes in seats.
Would need a good detail for private sale
Otherwise it still looks nice, and drives great.
Maryland/DC area.
Got a trade in offer of $2,400 from dealer, and $2,100 from CarMax. Really want 4,000
Anne
Obviously a smokers car given the burns, scratches, tires?, $3500-$3900 retail is about all of it given the miles and slightly less than average condition. So the low $2K is about right for a trade.
You will/might have a hard time moving it yourself due to the miles on it as well. Even people who like Honda cars will see 150K on a Civic as an issue for a private sale. You can always try and ad for a week or two, clean it up really good yourself, try asking in the mid $3Ks and see what happens.
Things like step bars, bull bars, bed covers, help.
tom
Terry
the Outback, is it a Legacy, Impreza .?
The Saturn is kinda tall in the miles dept, I would figure the dealer probably has "around" $9ish in it after all the stuff, you should be able to get this one for "around" $11ish or less, the V6 saves this one .. what's he asking .? hows things in Salt Lake .?
Terry.
That xtra $7,000 in stuff .? you better back it into your garage, turn on that cool Rock station, call your g/f and tell her your going to be a little busy taking off all that glitter - a grille, a roll bar, ehh' there worth a few dollars ($200/$300.?) big boomer sound systems, intakes, chopped chipped Cha Cha motors are worth about Zippity Do Dah to a dealer and the vast majority of the buyers ~~ can you spell S T O C K .. ?
It does sound like you have taken great care of it though .. trade side, in and around the $12's .. this would be a Great vehicle for Retail Rd, Super big 5 liner Ad, Super detail, "asking" $15,9 and let someone take it home for $14,5/$15,5 ..... leave your ego at the door and don't get your feelings hurt, folks won't appreciate it as much as you do ..
Good luck and let me know ...
Terry.
Anne .. <<
Hi Anne ~ you want $4,000 for it and I want the new 48' Fountain Express Cruiser, and neither will be happening tonight ... sounds like you need to be going down Retail Rd, super detail (not the car wash) finish any service if needed, needs rubber.? drop some on, it needs to look, drive and feel like 50k, not 150k .. $4,900 in the paper with a GREAT ad and wave hasta la vista at the first $3,5/$4,5 ...
Terry
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would you like a combo package, can I get anything else for you while I'm up ..?
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Terry.
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Chevy Impala LS (gotta have the 3.8)
Year: 2002
Good Condition
Moonroof
all of the options that come w. LS, but no extras.
decent tires.
Area: Cleveland
I like these cars -- and I read Mathias's article and it seems like you can get a lot of value for the money. Just want to get a general idea of a real sell price from a dealer.
Things are good in SL - nice Indian Summer around here. Things would be even better if I could convince el-cheapo to pick up one of these wagons and stop calling me every time that Sentra breaks!
-Jason
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'01 Honda Insight with the 5-speed and 52K miles. That's all the info I got on it, but, if i recall correctly, there really were no options to be had on that car, right? Anyway, they are asking $9995. Its in NJ, but i don't know color, sorry.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2001 Honda Insight, 5-speed, silver/gray, 60k miles. Asking price was $16k. Seemed high to me, but then what do I know, I'm driving an 02 Ford Focus.
Wasn't there bets and wagers on your vehicle purchase possibility??
Maybe a loaner while the truck's in for service?
The engine went about 10K miles ago and was replaced with a rebuilt. Other recent repairs include new lower ball joints and shocks (normal wear and tear). The body has 82K miles on it.
How do I go about determining the value of the car? The rebuilt engine cost $3,000 to have installed.
TMV trade-in value is $7,500 in "outstanding" condition if it still had the original engine.
How much do you think I could get for the vehicle from a dealer? private party?
Duncan
Our Chevy broke down yet again on Thursday, so yes, the Focus is a rental. Our Chevy decided that the $4000 in repairs we've done thus far wasn't enough and it needed another $600. I swear that truck is a money pit.
Hopefully get both vehicles back this week. The Explorer is in the body shop.
Do you guys really believe I'd trade my beautiful, low mileage, very reliable Explorer for a *gasp* Focus???
Duncan
Jolie, stay away from the car lot's ..
Terry.
Only thing I go near dealers for is to get parts and that's not very often.
I'm chomping at the bit to get the Explorer back, should be sometime in the next few days.
The good news is, you have a 4x4, LT, leather, tow pack (that's not been used) .. "rebuilt engines" are like fat girls, there easy to pick-up but hard to get rid of ... this won't be any winner for a dealer, plus when it goes to the auction the work has to be declared .. you might be seeing the $5,0's on a trade, maybe less depending on the dealer ...
The best way to go is, Retail Rd ~ shine it up, have ALL the service records glued to the dash, you will need a super Ad in the biggest paper in your area and you have to be available to "discuss" the work, most LT's don't see work til' 150k unless they have been abused, so you just need to be there to "Splain" ... $3,000 for a rebuild ..?? Wow, who did the work Reggie Fountain ..l.o.l... but anyway, try $7,900 "asking" and you might see $6,5/$7,500 ---- Oh yeah, don't forget to park the ego at the door . .....
Good luck ...
Terry
Terry.
The truck runs great now but I just don't trust it to not break down and either result in an accident or leave my wife and new baby stranded.
It is a crying shame that a 5 year old vehicle should be this unreliable and costly to own. I will never own an American vehicle again. They don't last and their resale value is the pits. I will have to pay $10-15K more to replace this truck with a comparable foreign vehicle of the SAME year! (Toyota 4Runner or Nissan Pathfinder) Pathetic!
2003 bmw x5 3.0 silver over black hides, no maaco, no kisses, 8k miles , steptronic with premium and cold weather pkgs
VS.
2003 bmw x5 4.4 v8 with same color, shape and level of equipment, and miles
Thanks,
Mark
1998 Audi A4 sedan, Quattro
2.8 L V6, 5 spd manual, black leather, moonroof, 52.5 K miles, pearl white,looks very clean (no visible dings), not sure if it has the Bose or cold package.
I'm in the lower Hudson Valley, NY. What would be a fair price? Thanks in advance.
First the good: clean body, no rust, ding, or parking lot kiss anywhere visible.
Now the bad: leather on side of driver seat peeling/peeled off; driver and passenger leather looked worn; dead battery; no towing package; needs a wash (interior).
Checked CARFAX, 1 owner truck, local, but car was purchased at auction. Tells me even the Lex dealership want no part of this truck.
What do you think ? As an LS owner, I cannot believe how worn the leather is on this '99 despite its low miles for the year (~15K miles/yr). Are there potentially more troubles down the road on this truck ? Drove OK.
Read some of the MANY boards on the problems with VW's, MB's, BMW, Audi's, etc, and then perhaps you might take your anger out on someone else besides me ....
Now, go away ...
Terry.
I looked at so many SUVs before I bought the Explorer. Pricewise it was the most expensive one I looked at, but was the newest and lowest mileage. I looked at some Misuzus (Izusu) Rodeos, most were 94 with ~100k for $7k, looked at a 94 4Runner with a new engine and ~70k on it for $10k My Explorer was a 97 with ~41k for $11k. Seemed like a fair deal to me, I've put $0 into it for repairs. Now don't get me started on our $12k 94 K3500 with 150k on it.....ugh.
And yes, I am staying away from the car lots and am miserable driving that darn rented Focus.
GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!
I notice that you did not include any Japanese makes in your 'also unreliable' list. Oh, and akangl, I do not consider engine failure a "little problem". You are welcome to "come along and pick up" my Blazer anytime.
Personally, I would rather it DIDN'T have a tow package. These always scare me...and other people too...we wonder what kind of overweight load it may have had to pull.
The fact a Lexus dealer wholesaled it is a bit funny unless he had too many to begin with.
Proceed with caution.
I looked at several Explorers and ended up buying a nice low mileage one, fast forward 3 months and 10k miles (it now has 51k on it) and I've put $0 into it. More reliable than several foreign cars I've owned. My 98 Grand Cherokee was the same way, bullet proof, owned it from 40k to 78k and put $0 into it.
Every car maker has its problems, they are man made machines, they break.
That being said, I will probably keep it until it finally dies because the resale value is so low that it will always pay to fix it rather than replace it. Hopefully you are both right and it will last until 150K without any more problems.
That's my take on my Explorer, if I can get to 150k on it I'll be happy. I drive about 35k/year, so that won't take long. I had a 1994 S-10 Blazer that I bought with 78k on it and sold with 113k, was a fairly good truck, but dang it liked fuel pumps. Re-sale does hurt though. We are $12k into a 94 Chevy K3500 150k on it that we bought in June, ain't worth nothin' now, sad thing is we only paid $6700 for it, the rest is repairs. We will keep it until it gasps its last breath.
(ii) sorry about the crossed wires between you and terry; i didn't see any attacks either direction...
(iii) i'm with the other guys: 70k rebuilt on a gm pushrod is VERY unusual. anonymous is right; they'll run forever with cold air and strong transmissions, but the car will slowly break apart around the drivetrain.
also, the ugly is usually factory-installed.
none of this helps you with your truck. smartest thing would be to keep driving it, money-wise. from the $3k repair bill i would assume the rebuilt was done alright... but you KNOW that, a buyer would have to assume it. personally, i wouldn't touch this thing unless i could flat steal it; nobody puts them together like the factory; i wouldn't even buy a car that had it's head(s) off.
As far as your truck plus $10-15k to get a japanese truck of same vintage: ah, no. the strongest ones are the 4runners, they bring stupid money, but I don't see a '98 with 85k get more than $15k retail. Terry will spank me if I'm wrong.
As far as consumer reports: don't forget they count "failures" or "problems". a stuck power window switch, blown transmission, or leaky water pump are all the same to them. i would not be afraid to buy a 4.3 -- it's a 350 w/ 2 cylinders missing, and THAT was the best engine the General ever built. Sorry you got one of the few duds.
Peace!
-Mathias
"I need a shorty fs van"
You got a bad one. akangle has had good luck with her Explorer but saw a bad example of a 4-Runner. It's going to happen.
As Mathias pointed out, the 4.3L engine is a good one, in general. Yours wasn't as it just so happened.
All the ranting here isn't going to change your curcumstance, though.
Terry was just trying to give you some friendly advice. Whatever you do or don't choose to buy next is totally up to you.
That, plainly is my greatest concern ! That a Lex dealership wholesaled it and it got picked up by a Mitsu dealer looking for a quick buck. I think I'll proceed rather cautiously. Read: taking a pass at this one.
Don't know what Terry will say tho'.
What do you think is the range for private sale pricing?
rroyce10 Oct 17, 2003 8:12am
Like new, miles in the 8's, 03's, 3.0's are doing in and "around" that $40/$41ish figure .. the 4.4i's are seeing "around" that $46ish range .. they can do a little more and they can do a little less depending on the day and it's that funny time of the year, Fall is falling up north and 4x4's, even expensive ones can drag some $$ -But, they better be clean and glow in the dark ...
Terry.