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I have a 2004 Toyota Matrix that I purchased 13 months ago as a commuter vehicle when I moved 45 miles away from my office, (I live in Southern California, San Bernardino County). The vehicle is only used to drive to/from work mainly on the freeway as well as visiting clients offices in town. I wasn't able to utilize Edmunds used car valuator because they only list up to the 2003 Matrix.
Here are the vehicles specs: 2004 Toyota Matrix XR. Automatic transmission (29,457 miles), White exterior, gray cloth interior, CD player, power windows/mirrors, fog lights, cruise control, anti-lock brakes, condition: clean to outstanding, closer to outstanding.
I am interested in what I could/should expect a dealer to offer me for the trade-in value. I am interested in buying a $30,000-ish new vehicle (possible a passat or other sedan).
Looking forward to your response!!
Thank you,
Max
We picked up our new popup camper today and the Titan was perfect, still getting 17-18 mpg hwy even pulling the trailer.
Have put 8400 miles on that truck in just over 2 months, a few minor glitches but nothing I would consider a problem. Usually after 2 mos I'm ready to trade....not this time, still love it.
If someone is in the market for a large SUV or 1/2 ton truck I would definatly recommend a look at the Armada (we test drove one, liked it) and the Titan (test drove one and fell in love, bought it).
Plus I fully believe my children would kill me if I even *thought* about trading in Mr. Tidy (my daughter's name for it). They both adore the truck, I've never seen them so attached.
I guess in response to my angst at making decisions on replacing our aging Suburban -- bowke28 thought you could give a pretty good recommendation and sage advise on the large Nissan platform.
Mike
2002 Kia Sportage
4x4 SUV, auto tran.
Spoiler, Power windows, locks,
alloy wheels, cassette, a/c,
30K miles.
Thanks. By the way I am in NY.
Then again, maybe I have learned to tune out a lot of things........amazing what driving a 1990 Suburban will do for you.......makes minor stuff seem like nothing. LOL
Engine/transmission is the best, its quick and smooth. Not too horrid on gas (18ish on the hwy 14ish around town). Lots of fun to drive, drives like a car. Worth a look no doubt.
I've got an 04 Vibe base/pwr/stick/no abs/7k miles.
That car is worth, at auction around $11,5 - $12 here in MI as per Terry. Confirmed at a used-car dealer with an auction price for a similar car in Milwaukee.
You have Toyota + more miles - auto + and abs +, so give or take, not far off in terms of value, I'd think.
When Terry comes back from his Atkins retreat, he'll probably tell you the real #s, but you'll probably have to repost.
-Mathias
I like the Titan but the SUV version is not so attractive.... looks like a '58 Rambler wagon on the side. My sister/bro-in-law bought an '04 Yukon and absolutely love it.
Mark
So, we found a good deal on a new one and went with that. Had everything we wanted and wasn't much more.
I have it set up in the yard right now loading it for our trip......can't get my daughter to come out of it.
Our Titan is doing exactly what we want it to and doing it just fine.
I have never used this site before but I saw your name and I believe you could be of help too me. I went to a dealer ship on Saturday and I went to look at the V50 I was not impressed. It was too small for me. Well I was told I could get the Xc70 for a better deal a 2004. The sticker read 39K plus and I was given a price of 32,800 or so. I have a trade in (Audi A4 2002-35,000 miles) It is in good condition just needs a good wash and minor detail inside. I was given a price of 16,000 that was way too low I believe. What should I do. Should the price of the wagon be lower also. If you can get me a good deal I will travel to NJ to purchase the car I want to purchase by the end of the month if possible ..I live in Philly...I really like the SUV if I can get a good deal on that Im there......:)
Such as: engine, transmission (manual or auto -- they're all "5-speed" now), ext/int color, cloth or leather or naugahyde, sedan or wagon, condition of the tires, ever been in an accident, ever a repaint of anything.... "needs a bath", well I need a bath every day, difference is, I usually get it....
read 99 posts up, and you'll get the idea.
Mr. Bill has
kinda been AWOL for awhile, so Terry is your man... but he's on vacation mudwrestling biker chicks in Sturgis... dunno when he'll be back.
Finally, when you do get a price from a dealer, don't count on the potential condition of the car... "it just needs" does not count. Do whatever it needs and present the car ready for resale. Dealers are lazy, just like you and me, and they will reward a car where they don't have to use their imagination to see what it looks like.
-Mathias
If it's dirty, then I automatically assume, and rightfully so in most cases, that the maintenance isn't up to date and normal owner maintenance checks aren't done.
If you don't have time to take it through a 5 minute car wash, you don't have time to get the oil changed - get the idea?
When you take a car for a trade in, you're SELLING a vehicle - get in sales mode, and do everything you normally would to make sure it has as much "curb appeal" as possible.
For the price difference that you mentioned, I would want a new one too. I've always liked the "Brand New" smell and you never know how someone has maintained something, especially an auto.
Congrats on the new purchase! Mark
The Titan still manages normal fuel economy while towing it, that's a big plus. We only managed 9-10 mpg towing the rented travel trailer this summer, with the popup its getting 17-18 mpg hwy.
My kids are super excited and it just might keep me busy enough to stay away from the car lots. ;-)
regards,
kyfdx
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I like it when people say what they mean, so I used the quote.
BTW, I was surprised the guy did not get in trouble for it... seems like the level of moderating isn't what it used to be... the things that I've gotten my ear pulled for...
Ta -Mathias
OTOH....Its funny for a car dealer having to hear my car is worth X from a customer when in the auto world its worth Y.........
Hmmmmm...........
S-man...NOT a slam on you or dealer guys here !
I do know these appeal to a VERY small slice of the population. A lot of it is timing. You could get five calls or none depending on this.
Good Luck!
Good luck nonetheless, it's a great-looking car; I can still remember when the show car came out... even my wife wanted one...
-Mathias
Yeah...I'm selling the TT to buy a truck, so it should be no problem next time I get ready to sell.
Terry.
Lets hope you didn't pay a dime more than $5,500 for that dude .....
.. you can buy 01/02 22fters with 12ft awnings, 4 burner (in/out) 14,000 btu a/c, 16,000 btu furnace, 30 gal tanks, double propane, double freshwater, full blown head with shower and a maserator for the high $8's low $9's on the retail side ...................
Anyway .. Happy Birthday Elvis.!
Terry.
You said mid 17's to low 18's for my 2003 mini cooper, indi blue, all three packages (cold weather, premium, sport) -- a great ride but small for me -- 20,800 miles. I currently owe 15,155.22
I was shooting for a 3 series but...
The car: New 2004 Passat 4motion, 1.8t, Tiptronic, Cold Weather package, Telemetrics, dealer added wood trim package (hoping I don't regret that -- it was on the car). Black with anthracite interior. The list price 28 and change.
The deal:
Out the door at 22,306 out of me (payoff of Mini is included, of course). Contract is signed, pick up the car on Monday (which is today).
Hard to tell how well I did -- Edmunds TMV was about 27 and change. I don't think it's a sterling deal (never is in hind sight) but it was low pressure. I think if I'd have went hard nosed I could have done it at 20,000 (I always think that when it's too easy) but it was close enough for me
In the end the difference was 5500 or so before taxes and fees...
Mornin' Chris, thanks for the update .. let's just "say" the dealer dropped the $18,0 figure in the Mini - and you traded for a $5,500 *difference*.? .. looks like the $23,5/$24ish range on the dealer side ... sounds like a pretty good deal to me, dealer kicked the Passat off the lot for about -0- after the rebates and hopes to make it up in the Mini, maybe .. so far your the one thats doing fine, I dunno about the dealer .l.o.l....
Enjoy, you did great ..!
Terry.
2001 TT Quattro Coupe 225 hp
Leather
[non-permissible content removed] Toasters
Bose
CD Changer
Xenons
17" wheels
Almost 38k miles
Tires at 60-70%
Black/Black
Back bumper has 2-3 kisses from license plate screws, but those are nearly un-noticible
One rim has some curb rash
Interior is clean with some wear, but not quite brand new mint condition
Houston, TX
Auto Trader is kinda like a JC Penney catalog, lots of folks will look, wish and ponder, but most will go the stores and buy ...
Terry.
Especially with the "Euro" types, the miles come back to haunt the owners once the market expands ... a good example is Bimmers, take a "clean" 02 Bimmer 745Li with miles in the teens/low 20's, I'm sure there's a dealer somewhere that will pony-up and step deep to the tune of the $49ish range if it's the right color, he "may" "might" "could" drop $50,0 in it ~ if it's cleaner than the Board of Health and "twice" as sanitary .. change the Odo to 38/40k and he won't cough up $41/$42 right now .. most Euro vehicles are very sensitive to miles, especially as the rear goes on ........ $21kish.? .. if you have had good strong ad's running for the last 6/8 weeks, then I would cut and run, dollars are negotiable - miles aren't ............................
I hope this helps ...
Terry.
Anyways...I looked back through my records and found out that I paid $500 less for it than I thought I did, so I'm willing to drop the price a bit more. If I let it go in the $21-22k range, then I'm only looking at $2.5-3.5k in depreciation for 1 year and 15k miles of driving.
in a nutshell, try not to use your buying price to justify how much you will take for it.
You've been seeing *offers of 21k ish from private party buyers*? Are any of those buyers still around?
That price is $4K more than you've been offered by any dealer so far. If you can get $21K for a 3 year old double (or triple) black TT with 38K miles in TX, in the middle of August.......what's wrong with that, again????
Anytime you can make an extra $4K by selling privately vs trade in (in that price range), it seems like a no-brainer to me. Every private "buyer" now thinks they're a genius because they can look up used prices on Edmunds, & they all want to pay the trade-in price, not even the "Private Party Price"--unless the car is really low miles, or scarce, etc.
Personally, I'd pay $$ just to NOT have to drive around in TX with a black interior :-) I'd grab $21K in a heartbeat........
Welcome back. How was the soiree ??
If I may re-post. I'm hoping for an opinion from a dealers point of view - and pricing on my Sub
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Well, I still haven't taken the E320 out back and shot it. I need to wait until our business gets a little more wind under it (and we can pay ourselves and not live off savings) I hope to replace it in the next couple months -- and hope to get $5-ish for it running up my own flag. Reminder - this was the White '94 E320 w/ 143K, grey hides and all the bells - pretty clean too.
Here's where I need the advise. My wife's Suburban is a 1999 LT 4x4, white, "K1500"-type with the Marketing Package (Southern Calif)with 91K miles, it has heaters everywhere ( mirrors, buns. etc) Tan leather, 3rd seat, rear air, all power, CD, alarm, towing, etc - decent rubber, blows cold, etc. The bad news - my wife kissed a Toyota on the freeway 3 years ago to the tune of $8K worth of work. Had it done at the best possible shop - but it is what it is.... Reading the posts, I'm guessing a private divorce is worth $13 ?? and if I expect a dealer to do the act, I'm looking $10-ish?? Am I close?
To replace it....
I'm looking at the heavy deals on a Denali or Denali XL ( except they look like they have "design by Pontiac cartoonists" all over it) I like the power pack and brakes they come with mainly.
An alternative would be a 3 year old Lexus LX430 on the theory they both will end up lasting another 6 years or so and the Lexus may blow up less than the GMC.
Another thought is to buy the wife a new DC T&C and just get a used 3/4T Extra Cab P/U to tow the boat. I figure a 3 or 4 year old Dodge or Chevy. This may cost more but provide more utility.
What is going to be the least painful on the wallet and keep me away from hydraulic lifts and NAPA parts?
Your advise - from your side - on my next car choices and the pricing on the Sub are appreciated.
Mike
We are happy with the one we bought, its prepped for a/c, so $600 or so and it will have a/c. The generator can be bought later too, right now we have use of one from the base, so its no hurry.
Nothing is cheap up here, least of all RVs. I guess we could have waited and driven out to the states in the spring and saved a couple grand, but it wasn't worth it to us.
*snaps fingers* Why didn't I think of having you pick me up one and drive it up?? hehehe
1999 Acura 3.2TL
73,279 miles
4 speed auto (was this transmission troublesome?)
White with gray leather
No spoiler, no other extras
At a Honda dealer in Birmingham, AL
It looks good in the pictures, but I haven't gone to see it yet.
Been awhile since I posted in here. Quick question. The wife's Silver 2000 Solara is about at the end of it's lease. The buyout for the lease is $9300. Wondering what you think it's worth. Here's the specs:
2000 Solara SE (silver)
4 banger - manual
40,000 miles
all options EXCEPT leather, alarm, and cd changer
new rubber
new rotors/brakes
1 door ding
a few small scratches (which could probably be buffed out)
Pittsburgh, PA area.
Thanks in advance!!!
So I'm sure I missed it in your post - so, you paid how much for that base 10ft Jayco .?
Terry.
Please help with fair auction/dealer price for:
2002 Lexus LS430(Chicago):
Silver/ash(grey) leather
NAV/ML package
Car has 14K miles and asking price is $43,500
Thanks in advance,
drpob
I know we probably paid too much, do I care? Nope, cause today is the reason we bought it and my daughter's health is worth a few extra G's.
We paid $10,945 or something like that, that's with freight (they charge extra for that since they barge them up) and dealer prep. Asking price was $12,119 or something like that.
Yeah, it was spendy, but listening to my daughter cough in all this smoke and not have a way to get her out of it is far worse than spending too much on a camper.
I'm leaving the house in a little while, heading south, driving as far as I have to until we run out of this smoke. She is having a rough time. Then we'll camp until the smoke clears, after that we'll think about coming home. Hubby can't go, has to work, so this is all me.
Catch you all when I get back.
Soiree ..? that's one word for it ~ how about: truly amazing.! .. You really get to see stuff your Mom said you should never see .. but Mom wasn't there (at least not my Mom) .l.o.l.. another nice thing was riding thru the Badlands and the Black Hills, that is really quite a spectacular ride, I mean bad to the bone and the weather was puuuurfect, 75ish during the days and 55ish at nights and no humidity .. it was coming back early and seeing all the damage from Charley that was the no-fun part .. me, I missed it all, but some folks will be lost for months ....
Anyway, back to reality ... $8,0 big ones in repair.? .. without seeing/knowing more about the Burb it's hard to say, ya know the finished product, stuff like sand in the paint, overspray on all the windows and the 64lbs of bondo on the hood, ya know the little things .l.o.l.. but if it's nice, finished right, all OEM parts, no plastic fantastic, then trade side, in and around the $8's ... down Retail Rd with a great Ad, artistic detail, deep round things, all serviced, lookin', feelin' and driving like 50k, $11,900 *asking* and drop kick that dude at the first $10,5/$11,5 ...... depends on the finish work - hopefully Mathias will read this and drop the "what to look for" and you can get a better idea of the value.
3 year old Lexus LX430 is a pretty good idea, there is Tons of these out there with 150/160k with little or no problems .. the Denali or Denali XL's are a great buy with all the incentives ..... what kind of boat.?
Terry.
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Terry.
16k.? on a 04 .? .. your another one that needs to get a better dating service .. what, do you drive around the block every night til' you run out of gas .?
Well, the color is good for the area, it's a Grand Prix GT and we have power everything .. the miles are going to kill ya here, plus GP's aren't burning down any bridges right now .. if it's super clean, deep sneakers, looks/feels like 8/9k, then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $12's, "might" "could" "maybe" on an "if" get reeeeal lucky and have a dealer drop the low low low low low low low $13's in it, maybe ............
Let me know how it goes ..
Terry.